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INSTANT REPLAY

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Posted: 08/08/2014 8:38 PM

INSTANT REPLAY 


www.csnbayarea.com/raiders/ins...nt-loss-vikings

MINNEAPOLIS -– Before we swill curdled milk that was the Raiders exhibition opener, let’s get some preseason clichés out of the way.

These games mean nothing. It was the first time for a revamped roster playing live football together. The starters played too small a sample size to accurately judge their progress. There’s a lot of time to get things right and play well when games actually count.

You’ll certainly hear some of that logic in postgame comments. In many respects, the reasoning is sound.

It doesn’t negate a simple fact: The Raiders played poorly in a 10-6 loss to the Minnesota Vikings in front of 51,752 at TCF Bank Stadium.

At times they were average. At others, they were awful.

There were too many drops. Way, way, way too many penalties. Far too much soft coverage in the secondary.

The Raiders seemed to progress well through the early portions of training camp, but Friday’s loss proves they have significant work left to do.

That includes the basics.

While there were positive takeaways trapped in this mess, they were swallowed by an overall inability to produce offensively or keep an opponent from moving downfield.

The Raiders have three more games and nearly a month’s practice before things matter, when they must play far better than this.

Penalty killers: The Raiders had a poor relationship with the referees in the first half. They just kept getting in trouble. The offensive line and secondary in particular struggled to play clean, but the whole team was flagged six times for 44 yards in the opening quarters, which were manned by personnel expected to play in the regular season.
For starters: The starting offense and defense struggled mightily against the Vikings. While there were mistakes all around, penalties and drops were particularly painful. They negated some quality execution, which was generally lacking in the first place.

Tight end Mychal Rivera had two drops, right tackle Menelik Watson had a false start and allowed a sack and cornerback Tarell Brown was beaten twice and flagged for defensive holding.

There's more to read in link above, but this is gist of it. It was ugly and no other way to put it. yes I KNOW this is preseason, but uggggh it looked really ugly and in years past when we've seen this it's usually a good indication they got a long way to go and a short time to get there to look like a cohesive unit on offense and defense. Hope fully the next 3 games we start to see HUGE improvement or this is gonna be a long ass season.....AGAIN!!!!

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Posted: 08/09/2014 9:28 AM

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Ya know when you say "long way to go" in insinuates there is an actual place to go.
I can't remember ever seeing the team play this poorly.
With the exception of McGloin, the QB's sucked
With the exception of the RB's, the offense sucked
With the exception of Chekwa, the defense sucked
With the exception of Chekwa, sp teams sucked worse than I've seen in a decade.
Not a single ounce of passion in this team. Dennis Allen, you're fired.
DEMONKING wrote:
There's more to read in link above, but this is gist of it. It was ugly and no other way to put it. yes I KNOW this is preseason, but uggggh it looked really ugly and in years past when we've seen this it's usually a good indication they got a long way to go and a short time to get there to look like a cohesive unit on offense and defense. Hope fully the next 3 games we start to see HUGE improvement or this is gonna be a long ass season.....AGAIN!!!!



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Posted: 08/09/2014 9:38 AM

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rawhead wrote: Ya know when you say "long way to go" in insinuates there is an actual place to go.
I can't remember ever seeing the team play this poorly.
With the exception of McGloin, the QB's sucked
With the exception of the RB's, the offense sucked
With the exception of Chekwa, the defense sucked
With the exception of Chekwa, sp teams sucked worse than I've seen in a decade.
Not a single ounce of passion in this team. Dennis Allen, you're fired.
DEMONKING wrote:
There's more to read in link above, but this is gist of it. It was ugly and no other way to put it. yes I KNOW this is preseason, but uggggh it looked really ugly and in years past when we've seen this it's usually a good indication they got a long way to go and a short time to get there to look like a cohesive unit on offense and defense. Hope fully the next 3 games we start to see HUGE improvement or this is gonna be a long ass season.....AGAIN!!!!

yeah that sums it up.
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Posted: 08/09/2014 1:58 PM

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You know, as my 31st year as a Raider fan I actually felt really good this season ( except for Schaub at q.b of course ) for the first time in well over decade then they played the game. Raw, I agree Mcgloin should be the starting q.b because he will give us the best chance to win. With Schaub well lets face it; he will be the first n.f.l q.b in history to lead two different teams to the first overall pick. On defense we cant cover anybody, cant stop the run ( a.p would have put up 290 on us if for real ) and nobody who can catch the football....it seems nobody. In all my post in this place ive never been " the sky is falling " type person but in reality the sky fell many years ago its just now I guess it seems im finally realising it. I thought 8-8 would have been a great year vs. The schedule we play. After last night I would have to agree with Mr. Green when he spoke of " they are who we thought they were "......lets just hope Davis doesn't let them off the hook like he did.....
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Posted: 08/09/2014 11:29 PM

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Until the FA acquisitions and the draft, I was dreading this season but was hopeful that both Reggie and Allen would be fired and we'd have another top 5 pick in the draft. After the FA's and draft I was excited - at least to see the defense. I think a lot of us were worried about the offense but I was hoping the Raiders would have a much better defense this year. I don't think so.  Our middle line backer had 0 tackles. I was thinking that no team would be able to run over 60 yards a game on us. 127 yards by the Vikes w/o Petterson - I was way wrong.  The defense,albeit only 1 pre season game, looked worse than last season. McGloin looked like the most accurate passer of the 3 and less likely to make huge mistakes.
RAIDER1975 wrote: You know, as my 31st year as a Raider fan I actually felt really good this season ( except for Schaub at q.b of course ) for the first time in well over decade then they played the game. Raw, I agree Mcgloin should be the starting q.b because he will give us the best chance to win. With Schaub well lets face it; he will be the first n.f.l q.b in history to lead two different teams to the first overall pick. On defense we cant cover anybody, cant stop the run ( a.p would have put up 290 on us if for real ) and nobody who can catch the football....it seems nobody. In all my post in this place ive never been " the sky is falling " type person but in reality the sky fell many years ago its just now I guess it seems im finally realising it. I thought 8-8 would have been a great year vs. The schedule we play. After last night I would have to agree with Mr. Green when he spoke of " they are who we thought they were "......lets just hope Davis doesn't let them off the hook like he did.....


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Posted: 08/10/2014 7:18 AM

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I watched the game live KTLA with Papa, Plunk and Mr. Flores and I have to say without Tom's humor I would have been more pissed than I was.  The analyzation of the dude that rolled over on his knee, hip, elbow, shoulder and head and wanted to keep running was priceless.biggrin

The Raider receivers sucked.  The dropped balls are unacceptable.  Holmes ran one of his first routes out of bounds, but I'm not sure if he was pushed out.  Then on a blitz early he missed a quick release from Schaubie because I guess they weren't on the same page.  The FB that caught the ball and had no idea where the side line was and picked up 11 instead of ???  The Viking running backs embarrased the D through most of the first half as did the receivers that seemed to run free.

That being said, I did not watch much NFL football this week just a play here and there.  I watched a Detroit Lion receiver get mugged down the sideline all the way into the endzone without a flag being thrown.  Later Detroit was called for pass interference for a tick tack touch.  I thought we got raped an many calls.  I will watch the game again because the first time there were to many distractions in my house.  We had a O-line holding call that was BS.  The refs need to get their crap together and call the game equal.  That is always a Raider fan complaint, but many times it is justified. 

I also watched a couple plays at the end of the Seahawk, Bronco game.  I watched Pryor flip a ball over a Bronco defenders head around the Bronco five that should have been caught and a TD scored for Seattle but he dropped the ball.  Right after that he rolled out and threw an interception into traffic.  They that showed the Bronco fans going crazy in the stands.  My first thought was... relax it's f**-n preseason you dumb f**cks.  But it is, and I know we will improve.  Tuck, Wood and Smith are new.  Burris has hardly played in the NFL, Mack is a rookie, and the defensive backfield will surely improve with more game time experience and a chance to meld.  

The backs didn't run much, but I don't want DMC or MJD getting hurt in the preseason anyway.  It is apparent the QB's and receivers need the game experience to get on the same page anyway.  

So look at some of the scores in the first week of NFL preseason and take solace.  49ers lost by twenty and the stats show the Ravens bullied them on the ground, and the Pat's took a beatdown. 

This week will be much better.  Home cookin, a week to fix problems exposed, and my homies from a previous life coming to town.  If anyone can make the piratepirates5B15Dth.giflook like a super bowl team it's them.

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Posted: 08/10/2014 12:40 PM

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You're lucky you got to see the game with Flores, Plunkett and Papa. I watched it on NFL.com and the feed was from Vikings commentators. They rarely mentioned any Raiders players except the QB's but called out every Viking players name whenever they made a tackle or a 1 yard run and named each college they went to and their college assistant coaches. It was horrible.
Re: Penalties, I don't know the stats but the Vikings had a ton of penalties, a few that resulted in a Raiders first down. I slo-moe'd some of the Raiders penalties and they were pretty much all correct.
I disagree with the "Tuck, Wood and Smith" are new statement. True they are new to the Raiders but their positions don't need any training other than learning calls at their tenure. I'm hoping what I posted in another thread that the reason they were not relevant was because they don't want to waste their energy playing hard in the preseason.I thought a lot of the back ups on defense played very well.
Re: Preseason drops: It was the seahawks, not the Raiders. The Seahawks have recievers so a drop from a 3rd string QB is not as dire as drops by the Raiders who have no legitimate WR's or TE's. Best WR of the day? Greg Jenkins. noidea


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