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Free Agents to Consider.

Posted: 02/13/2013 9:11 AM

Free Agents to Consider. 


A look at some free agents that would quickly upgrade this team and put them on the right track towards making a run at the playoffs. I think all of these guys could be a bit more affordable than the big names that will be out there, that will command huge contracts.

OLB Justin Durant - With Burris likely to move to the inside, that leaves a bit of a gap at OLB and Durant, not a huge name, put up some tackles last season, 82 solos. This would be another sleeper acquisition like Wheeler last year.

CB Marcus Trufant - Like Jammer, in his 30s but still can play and much better than what we have in the Secondary right now. Combine signing Jammer and Trufant, Huff can go back to Free Safety and the Secondary is a hell of a lot better.

DT Alan Branch - The guy is a young and big DT in Seattle and would fill the gap that will be left behind by Richard Seymour and the likely departure of Tommy Kelly. At 28 he has several good years left in him.

CB Quentin Jammer - Yeah, he's 33 and still better than any corner the Raiders have right now. He'd bring a veteran presence to what is likely to be a very young Secondary. Not to mention, it will weaken a division rival.

RT Phil Loadholt - Going back to the power blocking, one on one scheme means players that fit that scheme and he definitely does. He's a great runblocker and serviceable in pass blocking. He would definitely fill the missing piece of the O-Line puzzle at RT for good.And he's only 27.

RB Reggie Bush - He is a multi-purpose pain in the A$$ for defensive coordinators. On top of that, he does everything McFadden can do plus returning kicks. He isn't an every down back and the Raiders don't need one. He could definitely be a weapon with McFadden and him in the backfield together and the price tag may not be as high as one would think.

DE Dwight Freeney - It's simple, he may be 32 and its unknown if he's lost a step, but even if he has lost a step, its still a step faster than most Defensive Ends and the Raiders need a pass rush bad.

WR Greg Jennings - A great route runner and a proven #1 that knows how to get open and has reliable hands. His cap hit could be less than what it would've been because of injuries last season.

I know that the Raiders can't sign them all and in all actuallity, shouldn't. But, you never know what could happen and with signing some of these defenders, the Raiders could be a feared defense once again
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Posted: 02/13/2013 12:34 PM

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good list

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Posted: 02/13/2013 6:16 PM

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I agree a very good list thanks..



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Posted: 02/14/2013 3:03 AM

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I have been throwing Jammer's name out there for at least a month for the exact same reasons. I'd take any of these guys if the price was right, but I don't see much point in bringing in a bunch of expensive guys if we still have a shaky QB situation. I'd rather roll over cap space for next year.
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Posted: 02/14/2013 7:37 AM

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Branch and Loadholt YES PLEASE!!!

Those two are young and would be GREAT signings.  Both under 29 yrs old and a FA contract would mean they would be in Oakland until 33 ish instead of 37ish. 

I like Jammer and Trufant but would rather Grimes and Rodgers-Cromartie from Philly I think they will be available and both are starters and under 28 years old.  Meaning signing them to a contract puts them here 4 years

I did not hear they were moving Burris to ILB?

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Posted: 02/14/2013 7:11 PM

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Cut bait with guys like Kelly, Huff, and McClain combined with the fact that Seymour is gone and we will be good money wise.

Free agents to make a run at and turn this team around fast are as fallows :

Daryl Smith-OLB-Jags- Has played all three LB spots before and is a great player on a bad team. Pick him up and watch our team get better over night.


Derek Cox-CB-Jags- Solid CB that will be a instant starter for us and keep our secondary under control.


Andy Levitre-OG-Bills- Rock at the G spot that can play the other side of Wiz with Brisiel holding down the other G spot giving us a solid O-Line.


Cliff Avril-DE-Lions-not happy with his present team and some times doesn't always come out on top but hes that free agent DE we need to snap or D-line back in to shape.


Jermon Bushrod-OT-Saints- If the Raiders can get him, he would hold down the RT spot for years to come as the anchor of our O-Line.

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Posted: 02/14/2013 8:16 PM

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washie wrote: Cut bait with guys like Kelly, Huff, and McClain combined with the fact that Seymour is gone and we will be good money wise.



Kelly would bring us $4,775,000 in cap savings but have $6,324,270 in dead money that goes on the books for him .
Huff would be $1,791,250 in cap savings but we would see $9,497,500 dead money that goes to on the books for him too .
McClain would be seeing $4,220,000 in cap savings but have $10,895,000 in dead money that goes one the books for him too .

That is now $10,786,250 in cap savings for us . But also $26,716,770 in dead money that we are taking on too with cutting these guys .

That right now we currently already have $15,521,664 in dead money on the books for the Seymour , Boss , Barksdale , and Stupar

That would be then a combined $42,238,434 of dead money for us that would mean that Huff & Ro would have to be designated as the post June 1st cuts to spread the dead money out over the next two season for us .

That would be Huff would now count as $4,748,750 the next two seasons +/- depending if RM takes on more or less for this season ?

That McClain would be $5,447,500 the next two seasons +/- depending if RM takes on more or less for this season ?

So see that again now is already got now with just these two players not counting the other actual post June 1st cuts for us and their hits spread out over the seasons added to this too . Of being $10,196,250 million tied to dead money for 2014 season already .
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Posted: 02/14/2013 10:36 PM

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If that is true, then why so much talk about dumping Kelly and McClain from the head office then ?
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Posted: 02/15/2013 9:02 AM

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washie wrote: If that is true, then why so much talk about dumping Kelly and McClain from the head office then ?
It's hard to determine really what is accurate with the reports of Raiders looking to dump this player or that player most of it is IMO still just speculations by some .

That some people just look at high priced players for some and say oh dump him and we free up this much money from this to sign player x in free agency .

But they don't realize that yes they freed up some money in cap savings from releasing said player . But they now also have just taken on the dead money too which goes into also the pool for salary cap as well . So it is a very fine line to walk by the GM's to free up some cap space but not take on a lot of dead money to be able to try and sign some players to replace either those you just cut from your team , those that are UFA from your team , those that you wanting to use to help maybe upgrade positions on your team .


I think that RM yes wants to dump most of these high priced players with first hoping to get a trade offer for them if he can for whatever it may be , That he knows he can only take on so much dead money in one season so the question is how close are we to what he is accepted as being okay for it in dead money since right now as you see we have $15 million in dead money with out releasing any other players yet ?

That he just restructured Huff is deal so doubt that he is going to be released right now . Maybe come June 1st he is a cut but don't see him being axed to get us under the cap by March 12th .

That Kelly yes is a lot of money for us but we also have Bryant that is a UFA and could be very pricy to re-sign here for us too ? Does RM look and have already maybe which my guess is figured out that he will look to retain Kelly if he can't re-sign Bryant this season as a priority UFA and that he really can't afford to use the Franchise Tag on Bryant as that is a lot of money to dump into the DT spot for him on a player that was a spot starter . That he can use the Transition tag but then he risk the teams pricing him out of the market to match the offer for him too .


That now we get to McClain that yes he cussed out DA in practice about unable to be there at the 7 AM starts because of being a new dad and up all night with a new born . That it got him suspended for two games and demoted to being the PS player for the rest of the season after this too .

Now he is better suited for the 3-4 scheme and that since we are looking to transition to using this scheme more in 2013 then maybe RM & DA is talked it over and going to be looking to give this kid a chance to redevelop himself for us in 2013 and use him in more like we saw in spot snaps for us but now in the 3-4 role for him . If he does good here that is great might get his stock to get back up to being high for us to then look to trade him before the dead line next year .
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Posted: 02/16/2013 1:44 AM

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nascarford0688 wrote:

That now we get to McClain that yes he cussed out DA in practice about unable to be there at the 7 AM starts because of being a new dad and up all night with a new born . That it got him suspended for two games and demoted to being the PS player for the rest of the season after this too .

Now he is better suited for the 3-4 scheme and that since we are looking to transition to using this scheme more in 2013 then maybe RM & DA is talked it over and going to be looking to give this kid a chance to redevelop himself for us in 2013 and use him in more like we saw in spot snaps for us but now in the 3-4 role for him . If he does good here that is great might get his stock to get back up to being high for us to then look to trade him before the dead line next year .
That was his excuse ? Any ways on the note of dead money, why drag it out ? We were supposed to be in rebuild mode in dumping Wimbley and others for money. Just rip the band-aid off already and swallow the pill for a season or two and be young and cheap. I can't go through another season like last season all over dead money on the books come on !
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Posted: 02/16/2013 3:14 PM

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washie wrote: Cut bait with guys like Kelly, Huff, and McClain combined with the fact that Seymour is gone and we will be good money wise.

Free agents to make a run at and turn this team around fast are as fallows :

Cliff Avril-DE-Lions-not happy with his present team and some times doesn't always come out on top but hes that free agent DE we need to snap or D-line back in to shape.

Avril would cost a ton. Even if the thought of a $100 million contract is ridiculous, he obviously thinks he's worth more than 10 mil a year on a team with more pieces around him than we can offer.

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Posted: 02/16/2013 4:11 PM

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washie wrote:
nascarford0688 wrote:

That now we get to McClain that yes he cussed out DA in practice about unable to be there at the 7 AM starts because of being a new dad and up all night with a new born . That it got him suspended for two games and demoted to being the PS player for the rest of the season after this too .

Now he is better suited for the 3-4 scheme and that since we are looking to transition to using this scheme more in 2013 then maybe RM & DA is talked it over and going to be looking to give this kid a chance to redevelop himself for us in 2013 and use him in more like we saw in spot snaps for us but now in the 3-4 role for him . If he does good here that is great might get his stock to get back up to being high for us to then look to trade him before the dead line next year .
That was his excuse ? Any ways on the note of dead money, why drag it out ? We were supposed to be in rebuild mode in dumping Wimbley and others for money. Just rip the band-aid off already and swallow the pill for a season or two and be young and cheap. I can't go through another season like last season all over dead money on the books come on !
Yes as much as ripping the band-aid off is nice and would be good to do . We can't just rip the band-aid off as it is easier said then done . That have to have money left over to sign player to fill out the league requirement of the 53 man roster for the season .

That the dead money comes into play here as it limits the amount of money that you have to sign players with the more you have on your books of it .

Now we had $28,114,475-Dead Money last season that we have currently $17,325,352-Dead Money.

Now that is  $10,789,123 shy of what seems maybe what RM is deemed acceptable to take on of the dead money during the roster purging for us .

Now if he cuts McClain then that would surpass the dead money as he is a $10,895,000 dead money . 


Now does he look to go with the more smaller dead money cuts here to get to the perceived $28 million of his dead money limit for us . 


Tollefson is $900,000 dead money
Ford is $128,962 dead money
DHB is $5,260,000
That Branch is $4,200,000
That Kelly is $6,324,270

That makes now $10,488,962
That swap out TB for Kelly makes it $12,613,232
That now could see them decide to eat Kelly is dead money puts it slightly over $29,938,584


Now makes since that we could see them look to cut Branch as they tried him in DA is scheme and he just really doesn't fit into the safety role that DA is scheme requires . As TB isn't that great in coverage . That Huff is not that much better but seems they at least look to will retain him for now with his recent restructure and his versatility helps him for us too .

That we could see him retain both of these players or hell any of the others and use it to just drop Carson of his $9,340,000 dead money since he isn't going to be in the future plans for us .
That this can change some as depending on how the cuts are made who is the pre June 1st 2 tagged players and have their dead money spread out over the next two seasons .

Carson would be only a $4,670,000 million dead money for the next two seasons so makes since to consider part ways with him now and let Pryor and late round draftee QB or UDFA battle it out for us this season and a cheap veteran f/a .

Kelly could be if he is tagged as $3,162,135 dead money the next two seasons

DHB could be too as he is then a $2,630,000 dead money the next two seasons
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Posted: 02/17/2013 12:24 AM

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Then your talking about the net 2-3 seasons being like this one and we wont sniff a younger cheaper better team till 2016 at best. I'm sorry but this coach and GM were brought in to turn this team around ad do it now, I'm sick of waiting another 11 years to get to a Super Bowl. I know these things come and go and teams go up and down but damn turn this around and be quick about it. Dead money is one thing but tis is becoming to much !
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Posted: 02/17/2013 2:16 PM

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washie wrote: Then your talking about the net 2-3 seasons being like this one and we wont sniff a younger cheaper better team till 2016 at best. I'm sorry but this coach and GM were brought in to turn this team around ad do it now, I'm sick of waiting another 11 years to get to a Super Bowl. I know these things come and go and teams go up and down but damn turn this around and be quick about it. Dead money is one thing but tis is becoming to much !
You forget that we aren't like the other teams that you saw turned around quickly before .

That you have seen up in Seattle what RM wants to do in building this team up as that is what Schneider , RM , and Dorsey is learned from Wolf & Thompson over the coarse of their time there running the scouting department .

But unlike John and Dorsey in their 1st time stint as NFL GM . That they didn't have to update the entire organization like RM is doing that those cities had GM their that had the office left in good shape for them just they didn't pan out with the personal choices they hired to run their plan and missed on players drafted/signed as F/A .

Now RM took over a team that had been run by one person for the past 50 years of AL Davis . That he ran the front office on skeleton crew and full of his yes men and retained a very small scouting department too .

That RM is setup the entire front office is getting the scouting department up to being to date with the rest of the NFL standards . That he is trying to help build up the chain of command here to that also gives the people the ability to make choices without doing in the past having to go ask Al if this is what he wants to do now .

That in the process he is done what everyone is asked AL to do is to let the head coach pick his staff and then run his own schemes . Now DA did this that yes Knapp,Pollack , Hoffman were poor picks for him . But as a 1st time head coach and one on the Raiders to boot . Can't blame the available coaches to be leery to want to come here knowing the image that we have had under Al is reign in the past .

Hell as much as I don't like the Knapp as the OC must say the dude gets my Respect to be willing to come back here as a coach after his last stint here .
Now DA learned from this that he tried to take and allow to much change in his first season and thus he fired them and hired coaches that fit better with the personal now currently , but also those that seem to be creative enough to adapt the schemes now for when they start to get the players that he wants during this roster purge too .

That we didn't get any bite on trades other then Murphy for a 7th rd pick this season via Carolina .
That we had no way to get any good base players because we spent all our top picks in trades the previous year to get 3 QB and a OL player that was released because he didn't fit into the Zone .

That we saw for the most part of this 1st draft of players that RM drafted that weren't meant to start or contribute right away for us with the low picks but all of those that should be able to be very good back up and role players for us in this year #2 and #3 with another year and off-season or two under their belts .

That take a look I left the blue print that Seattle used that much can be what RM is wanting to do here but the salaries that AL gave some of these players just really limited to some teams that can or would be willing to take them on for us . Is what he is faced as a difficult task along with the very limited draft in year one and then again in year two as well for him and us .

So I can't blame him and expected that the rebuild process would be longer then what most would be with knowing the situation that he stepped into as the GM here .
That we have a good shot to maybe make some of this up if we can trade down now from teh #3 overall pick and get a couple of good picks say a 2nd and 3rd pick this season .

That not going to see any Tier A f/a signed here and maybe only 2-3 Tier B players signed and once again mostly Tier C players signed to 1 year deals .
But the thing is that the defense is already in their scheme so no teaching for some of these guys other then the rookies/ F/A brought in . Most guys now will understand the scheme and can start playing more with in Confidence to knowing what their assignment is on the play called better now .
That the offense isn't changing much WCO with vertical ala the Packers but seeing us using the power blocking now   .

That I don't expect us to be more then a 4-5 win team next season either . But from what I saw last season especially to the last 5 weeks of the season is that the defense is going to be playing much better and showed they . Even without a consistent pass rush and swiss cheese secondary they played very good and could hang with the best of them because Tarver is playcalling and the team not having to worry about Seymour/McClain on the field .

I don't really expect us to be competitive until 2015 season . I think we see us show a lot better consistent play next year for both sides the ball . That I think we see us jump to being a 6-10 maybe a 7-9 team in 2014 . But don't see us looking at being a playoff or winning team until 2015 season .
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Posted: 02/17/2013 9:49 PM

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Once again if that's the case our GM better draft well and get a hit on almost every pick, because if we must wait for 2015-2016 because of dead money our current coach will be fired !
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Posted: 02/18/2013 6:55 AM

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I agree for the most part, but believe we'll be competitive for a playoff spot in the 2014 season. I expect a 3-4 win increase in 2013, and I think 2014 could be a surprising season for us.


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Posted: 02/19/2013 9:10 AM

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washie wrote: Once again if that's the case our GM better draft well and get a hit on almost every pick, because if we must wait for 2015-2016 because of dead money our current coach will be fired !
Well Washie 2015 would be the last year of DA is contract and I think RM is already told Mark that he was going to let him have his 4 years here as coach regardless . That unless DA does something completely befuddling that requires that RM fire him before then of coarse ?

But I think we see him stick around for the full contract . Which I think is the right call for RM and Mark to make IMVHO . That gives them both credibility around the league and will remove them of the Al overcasting shadow that he was quick to pull the plug on a coach because of the results in the past especially the last decade of his running the team .

That next season we will have some dead money to go on the books again as will we for the 2015 season too . But the key thing is that for the dead money in those years depending on how much of the cap savings that RM spends this season that he gets with his cuts this year we will be able to handle this more for us better then we saw in 2012 .

That was bad all around but we got slightly better this season some breathing room not much but some . That we will have a lot more breathing room in 2014 season .

Personally it is that off-season if it is me that I cut Carson and Kelly from the team if I were RM . Those to alone would free up $17.330 million in cap space for us in 2014 .

While only taking on $8.73 million in dead money for us .

That if we release these two players this season then we get a cap savings of $10.77 million but take on dead money of $15,664,270 million .

So as you see sometimes that it is better to wait a year with two above average players for one more season on bloated deals then to cut bait now and eat an additional $6,934,270 million in dead money .

We all want to win but it is going to take time to undue  decade that it took Al to get us into this mess . So if I have to sit and watch us still bothersome to seeing a losing season for us hurts for a few more years then so be it .
But I do expect that the team will be playing much better overall then what we saw in 2012 season during these next few years too though as we will be getting Smarter football players then we had in the past here .

That never know in this league hell catch a few lucky breaks maybe they see a season like the Seahawks did and sneak into the postseason with a sub .500 record  . As hell all of us outside of Denver is rebuilding now with new staffs , That one unlucky hit of Peyton and then they too will be rebuilding with Osweiler as the QB .

But in the long run we will be what should be a team that can stay competitive for a long run at the Super Bowl much like we have seen in NE, NYG , GB , Bal ,and at Pittsburgh or what Peyton did for INDY for the 10 years before he missed the 2011 season .
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