Before the season started, there was no addition to our team that I was more excited about than Bart Scott. Over the past eight weeks, he has made me wish we let him stay in Baltimore. His numbers are less than pro-bowl worthy and are certainly not worhy of his loud, arrogant mouth. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he is a significant part of how well our defense has played at times. However, his comments after the game yesterday made me feel embarrassed to be a Jets fan. More embarassed than I felt during our 1-15 campaign.

In a nutshell he diminished Miami's offense by sarcatically saying they were "stacked" and "taking it all the way to the SB". He may be correct that their offense was bad yesterday, but how does he forget how they embarassed our D three weeks ago. More importantly his comments make it seem as though their win was a fluke or something yesterday. There are no flukes in football (short of Denver's miracle against the Bungals in week 1).

Yes, our special teams may have been the reason we lost the game. However, special teams are a part of the team and we lost as a team. There is nothing more pathetic than a sore loser. When a team beats your twice in four weeks you shut up and go back to work.

What gives him the right to go on national TV and make a fool out of our organization?

He is an idiot a complete fool and he is putting a distance between logical, respectable fans and this team. All the talk needs to stop. We havent won anything. Bart and Rex need to shut up now and win a few in a row before they start talking again. You win first and blow your own horn second, not the other way around.

I am sick today. Sick with the way we played, but more importantly, sick with the face our franchise is taking on. We are becoming the bumbling, babbling idiots of the NFL and I dont like it.

I thought his sarcastic, disrespectful comments were refreshing. This guy wants to win and is a very good player. He was obviiously furious at taking the loss after dominating the game.

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Consider our three leaders...

1. Team leader - Rex Ryan- a grown man

2. Defensive leader - Bart Scott - an almost grown man and a veteran

3. Offensive leader - Mark Sanchez- a young kid, 22 yrs old with 8 week of NFL experience.

How is it that only number 3 of the above, a young kid, ess than 6 months out of college is the only one of the three with enough smarts to not make a fool of himself to the media?

 I hope I am wrong, but I am starting to believe there is a reason why Baltimore chose Harbaugh over Ryan as the face of their organization and I believe three years from now we will have regrets.

Refreshing? If I might ask, in what way are they refreshing?? Refreshing would tend to imply that it brings something new to the table, a break from the ordinary. But, in my opinion, this rootless trash talking has become the norm, not a break from the norm or refreshing. I respect your opinion, but we've seen this for over 2 months now. I would think it would be getting old, not refreshing.

Think about this hypo... you are a salesman and another salesmen in your office had crushed your sales numbers for two straight fiscal quarters and you werent happy about it. Would your run around your office badmouthing the guy and making excuses for yourself. No, thatd be foolish. If you were a respectable man, you would get to work and find a way to beat him the next fiscal quarter and shut your mouth until you suceeded. At least I hop you would, I know I would and Id like my team to as well.

Seaver wrote: the question was poor.....it was baiting......what do you expect him to say? Somebody wanted a diatribe on how poor the Dolphins were, but Scott gave it right back and simply defused the question. If nothing else, he could've reiterated that it is indeed a gimic offense, but he wasn't going to bite.

First, it is not a gimic and we all need to stop with that gimic complaining. It is new. The no huddle was once a gimic. The shotgun was once a gimic. The forward pass was once a gimic, so forth and so on. I expect him to say..."We played well on defense, but it wasn't enough to win the game. So we'll get back to work over our bye week and we'll get the Phins next time" Hows that?

Not to mention... they didnt use the woldcat that much yesterday.

I'm in agreement that we should keep our mouths shut a bit, at the very least until we win a damn game.

On the way home yeterday my own buddies were still saying how the jets were the better team which I really didn't agree with since they just beat us twice in 4 weeks.  Obviously the players feel the same.  So put your money with your mouth is already.  Its getting embarrassing.  

I also don't think Rex does the team a service when he sites stats showing we outgained them 4 to 1 and implying that their 2 return tds and 1 defensive td were somehow to be discounted.  So special teams is no longer part of the game?  So defensive turnovers don't count when the other team makes it happen but when we make them happen we're great?

As fans its ok if we are frustrated and say we deserved to win a game we lost.  For players and coaches to state or imply this is a complete copout and sends a very bad signal as far as being accountable.  If that continues then it will be a real problem.

secondand2 wrote:

 

Seaver wrote: the question was poor.....it was baiting......what do you expect him to say? Somebody wanted a diatribe on how poor the Dolphins were, but Scott gave it right back and simply defused the question. If nothing else, he could've reiterated that it is indeed a gimic offense, but he wasn't going to bite.

First, it is not a gimic and we all need to stop with that gimic complaining. It is new. The no huddle was once a gimic. The shotgun was once a gimic. The forward pass was once a gimic, so forth and so on. I expect him to say..."We played well on defense, but it wasn't enough to win the game. So we'll get back to work over our bye week and we'll get the Phins next time" Hows that?

 

Not to mention... they didnt use the woldcat that much yesterday.

Why would Scott say that? Did you watch the game? We lost, because we didn't play well on ST. Our D shut down the wildcat and proved that without it you guys won't do much damage on offense. The numbers don't lie. Brown had 27 yards on 11 carries and Williams had 27 on 8 after running for 148 and 4 TDs combined just last week. If you guys were getting better results out of those direct snaps to them, chances are you would've tried it more than 10 times, which was only 9 times less than you tried it in the first meeting.

I don't have problem with them talking trash to the opponent on the field, but to say this crap to the media just makes them and the organization look like idiots if they can't back it up!!  I will hold judgment on whether Scott was a good signing.  I will say that  they must win 10 games and make the playoffs to be considered a good team.  Otherwise, they will be called average or bad.

secondand2 wrote:

... i needed to add this...

 

Consider our three leaders...

 

1. Team leader - Rex Ryan- a grown man

 

2. Defensive leader - Bart Scott - an almost grown man and a veteran

 

3. Offensive leader - Mark Sanchez- a young kid, 22 yrs old with 8 week of NFL experience.

 

 

How is it that only number 3 of the above, a young kid, ess than 6 months out of college is the only one of the three with enough smarts to not make a fool of himself to the media?

 

I hope I am wrong, but I am starting to believe there is a reason why Baltimore chose Harbaugh over Ryan as the face of their organization and I believe three years from now we will have regrets.

Oh please...really?  Have you thought the Jets would be 4-4 at this point when the season schedule came out?  We were in every game through eight weeks.  So to think we have a boisterous Coach & defense as a negative aspect of the team is purely a poor excuse for the losses.

I dont mind all the talk.  The Jets have been quiet for too long.  The Jets aren't 0-8, 2-6,1-7.  Let these guys talk.  It's good to see emotion from the team other than coming from us fans as it has been the case for 49 years.

It's a new era.  The next 8 games a crucial to how the Jets mold themselves as to never be mentioned to the SOJ adage.  I'am still on board and will continue to have that conviction as we will go 7-1 the rest of the way.  We're too good to lose any more!!!!

secondand2 wrote:

Before the season started, there was no addition to our team that I was more excited about than Bart Scott. Over the past eight weeks, he has made me wish we let him stay in Baltimore. His numbers are less than pro-bowl worthy and are certainly not worhy of his loud, arrogant mouth. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he is a significant part of how well our defense has played at times. However, his comments after the game yesterday made me feel embarrassed to be a Jets fan. More embarassed than I felt during our 1-15 campaign.

 

In a nutshell he diminished Miami's offense by sarcatically saying they were "stacked" and "taking it all the way to the SB". He may be correct that their offense was bad yesterday, but how does he forget how they embarassed our D three weeks ago. More importantly his comments make it seem as though their win was a fluke or something yesterday. There are no flukes in football (short of Denver's miracle against the Bungals in week 1).

 

Yes, our special teams may have been the reason we lost the game. However, special teams are a part of the team and we lost as a team. There is nothing more pathetic than a sore loser. When a team beats your twice in four weeks you shut up and go back to work.

 

What gives him the right to go on national TV and make a fool out of our organization?

 

He is an idiot a complete fool and he is putting a distance between logical, respectable fans and this team. All the talk needs to stop. We havent won anything. Bart and Rex need to shut up now and win a few in a row before they start talking again. You win first and blow your own horn second, not the other way around.

 

I am sick today. Sick with the way we played, but more importantly, sick with the face our franchise is taking on. We are becoming the bumbling, babbling idiots of the NFL and I dont like it.

Big question for you.WHAT GAME WERE YOU WATCHING? Our O played greeat yesterday.Yes there was a couple pf plays left on the fireld,but that happens. The D had a fantastic game holding the Fiins to just over a hundred yards.This was a great game in my eyes.The only problem yesterday was the Special Teams.I was dissapointed withthere play,but after reading Westoff's response I am dissapointed with coaching decsions.The deactivated his best ST players for this game.(The guys that make our biggest plays.)After hearing this I don't blame Westoff at all.As Far as Bart's comments yes they were overboard,but give him a break.Both sides of the ball played there tails off to be let down by ST.I do wonder why those guys were inactive though!!

I agreed with absolutely everything that you said except there are no flukes in football, balls bounce funny,

there are bad calls like the fumble we recovered and they quick snapped it so it couldn`t be reviewed.

Rex Ryans defence rose to the occassion, he said he took fault for the first loss and did something about it.

  The fault is on the special teams coach, Westhoff usually does not have his team out of position but

his strategy failed yesterday,

 I also feel sick today, We outplayed then most of the game but special team crumbled and imploded.

    John D

generally speaking i agree with the poster - the Jets have embarrassed themselves with the way they open their mouths and don't back it up, and they have certain players like Rhodes who love to talk and do nothing on the field.

and for the guys who say i wish they were winning and it wouldn't matter, i disagree.   bad sportsmanship is bad sportsmanship.   too many Jets have displayed it this year and while it doesn't make me embrace the team and less it does make me not like certain players.

but i'd also add Scott's comments were the least offensive of the many things i've read over the past 8 weeks.   i'd like them to take the approach they had in Houston where they went in silent and killed them

It is embarrassing.  The lack of respect for Miami before and after the game was embarrassing.  I thought we would be a tough physical team not a loud mouth disrespectul team.

We all know ST's was horrible but the offense and defense had chances to come up in the end when it mattered most and failed.  Outplayed?  I saw a Jet team climbing uphill all 2nd half.

I am not one to trash talk when playing sports, but I do agree with some people's opinions that this brashness and telling it like it is, is very refreshing. This is similar to the bravado and rebellious attitude of the 2004 Red Sox. In order for that team to overcome its long history of letdowns and failures, it needed a group of people who did not give a sh*t and would tell people to shove it.

I, for one, say keep it up Rex and company. Tell the world to go fu** themselves because the Jets are coming.

I agree that Bart Scott, and for that matter, Rex Ryan are making the Jets look silly.

You all have a good team and have had two tough losses, well three now, vs. Miami.

I feel the same way as the OP about Joey Porter, I wish he would shut the hell up and make plays instead of talking big and doing not so much.

Anyway, it was a really good game and sometimes the ball bounces one way and not the other. The Phins won a couple of close ones against the Jets lately, but the Jets have had more than their share of lucky bounces vs. Miami in the past, so I am relishing these last few wins.  With all sincerity, I hope we don't see you again in the playoffs, if we make it there, but if we do, I wouldn't be surprised to see Miami win again.  The  Phins are building a solid and tough team that nobody really wants to play. It is so refreshing as compared to our whimpy ass finesse teams of the past.

I really think with Sanchez and Henne that we are going to be fighting it out for years to come.

GO PHINS~!

Can Scott, Pace, and these other guys who trash talk after a loss keep their mouths shut? Earn your right to run your mouth. They haven't, and they need to just shut up for a while.

atljet60 wrote: Comments made this season are refreshing in comparision to the previous regime. We as fans had a problem with no emotion shown on and off the field; and now there is a problem with it? Jet Fans are very hard to please, even when they are winning. I enjoy Ryan's press conferences. They make me laugh at some point. I did not get anything from Mangini, and Edwards got dry real soon.

I would trade any conference by Rex to all the conferences by Mangini and the Herm stuff was dribble in the first degree.

At least Bart hung around to meet the press and take his medicine--albeit he did not want to give into the baaiting by the press. I could abide by Rhodes tearing off and not explaining that his best hit of the day was his slap at Porter before the game.