Faneca is quickly becoming a liability in pass protection. He has been beat fairly regularly. He's still terrific run blocking, but to see DT's going straight by him so often scares the heck out of me. How much more money are we on the hook for?

I worry about this, too. He's had a definite subpar half of a season. Today, he was terrible, but it's not just today. He's been one of the weaker links in the line.

Something tells me that he, along with Woody and Ellis, will be asked to take one (i.e., accept a pay cut) for the team in the offseason. They're still great to have on a roster. But in starting roles? Not anymore imo. Time we shaved some millions off their existing deals to address our issues of youth/depth on both lines.

Vinny, I can't believe you just said that about a fellow Italian ! LOL. Seriously, Faneca got beat by Starks @ a crucial time of the game, but our weak link on the OL is still Brandon Moore RG, not Faneca LG. If we could get a monster RT and slide Woody to RG it would improve our OL greatly. If you watch Faneca, he is one of the best run blockers in football, and always is downfield looking for more blocks. He has also helped improve D'Brick @ LT. Does he need to re-structure his huge contract so we can sign Edwards, Leon, Mango & others, Hell yeah !

Go Jets...Cyborg

have to agree this guy has not played well all year.  restructure or go and get younger..

i can't agree with the poster that said woody is a weak link..he dominated joey porter today, he dominated period. he had his guys 5 yards downfield on run blocks, hes been palying really well..faneca has looked half a step slow..hes coming out of his stance way too high (this coming from a former hs left guard)..he doesn't have overpowering size, so he needs to make sure his technique is there

cysporsche wrote:

Vinny, I can't believe you just said that about a fellow Italian ! LOL. Seriously, Faneca got beat by Starks @ a crucial time of the game, but our weak link on the OL is still Brandon Moore RG, not Faneca LG. If we could get a monster RT and slide Woody to RG it would improve our OL greatly. If you watch Faneca, he is one of the best run blockers in football, and always is downfield looking for more blocks. He has also helped improve D'Brick @ LT. Does he need to re-structure his huge contract so we can sign Edwards, Leon, Mango & others, Hell yeah !

 

Go Jets...Cyborg

Faneca got beaten badly at least three times. One was a run, and it was still a gain, but he got blown off the ball. He was on roller skates.

Moore is only the weak link if you convince yourself he is. He's a solid guard...unspectacular in every sense of the word, but solid.

I wish that it wasn't so dirubtive to switch them around and have Moore at LG and Faneca at RG. I'd love to see the results of that..

Yes. That's why he is not playing for Steelers anymore. Its no different than getting Jumbo Elliot when we did. Paying for their past glory and then being disappointed.

Tazmania05 wrote:

Yes. That's why he is not playing for Steelers anymore. Its no different than getting Jumbo Elliot when we did. Paying for their past glory and then being disappointed.

Yeah, except that Faneca has been great for us for a couple years to this point.

And we're not the first team to pick up OLmen after their first long stint with a team. It happens all the time, young guys come in and older guys go to mentor younger guys on other teams. Mawae, Mangold.

jetsuntildeath wrote:

 

Tazmania05 wrote:

Yes. That's why he is not playing for Steelers anymore. Its no different than getting Jumbo Elliot when we did. Paying for their past glory and then being disappointed.

Yeah, except that Faneca has been great for us for a couple years to this point.

 

And we're not the first team to pick up OLmen after their first long stint with a team. It happens all the time, young guys come in and older guys go to mentor younger guys on other teams. Mawae, Mangold.

Good call. I love having older, experienced guys on our roster. Keep them fresh by getting younger, and then in crucial points, we can call on their experience.

This is where Faneca's value of the team is misconstrued.  The Jets primarliy signed this guy due to his run grader type of attribute.  On the last series in which at the 7 yard line, had this bumble fk of an OC decided to pound the ball instead of throwing it...we would have seen Alan's worth pay dividends.  But again, we have an indecisive OC which in part trickles down to making bogus calls!!

atljet60 wrote: We have one of the most expensive OL's in the league. Something will give because Brick and Mangold have to be resigned later.

This is where those who are so liberal with giving away draft picks will feel the effects of not having enough to draft depth on the OL. It is by far the most important unit on the team and keeping a steady flow of the "next guy" is job 1 behind securing a QB.  I'm not sure I see anyone who can take over.

Don't think we are in trouble yet and I don't think Faneca isn't as bad as stated but he does seem to get beat at leat once a game and it always seems to be in a big spot..

faneca seemed to struggle in pass protection last year as well.  i'm not as well trained as others here in watching o-line play, so maybe he has gotten worse.  but his forte has always been run blocking, especially when he pulls to the right side.  and last i checked, thomas jones led the AFC in rushing last year and the jets are one of the top rushing teams in the NFL this year.  now obviously this isn't all due to faneca, but the team has been able to run the ball.

added to that is the comments from both brick and nick about how much faneca has helped them develop as players.  it's obviously not something that shows up in a stat sheet, but he has helped bring leadership and cohesion to the line.

as to long-term replacements, i wouldn't write off matt slauson just yet.  the coaches seemed really high on him in camp.  i'm not sure if he's better suited for RG or LG (he seems more of a mauler, so perhaps RG), so there could be a potential down the road replacement on the line, to go along with nick and brick.

hobson54 wrote:

faneca seemed to struggle in pass protection last year as well.  i'm not as well trained as others here in watching o-line play, so maybe he has gotten worse.  but his forte has always been run blocking, especially when he pulls to the right side.  and last i checked, thomas jones led the AFC in rushing last year and the jets are one of the top rushing teams in the NFL this year.  now obviously this isn't all due to faneca, but the team has been able to run the ball.

 

added to that is the comments from both brick and nick about how much faneca has helped them develop as players.  it's obviously not something that shows up in a stat sheet, but he has helped bring leadership and cohesion to the line.

 

as to long-term replacements, i wouldn't write off matt slauson just yet.  the coaches seemed really high on him in camp.  i'm not sure if he's better suited for RG or LG (he seems more of a mauler, so perhaps RG), so there could be a potential down the road replacement on the line, to go along with nick and brick.

Don't disagree with anything your saying here Hobs, except I see Faneca's pass blocking issue a little differently.  His pass blocking has been spotty and sloppy, and is not improving......and It should be.  He gets paid like a veteran, pro-bowl caliber player.  He needs to play like one as well.  End of story.

Enough with the inconsistant pass blocking Mr. Faneca.  Your a pro - Get it Fixed.

atmorrisjr wrote:

 

hobson54 wrote:

faneca seemed to struggle in pass protection last year as well.  i'm not as well trained as others here in watching o-line play, so maybe he has gotten worse.  but his forte has always been run blocking, especially when he pulls to the right side.  and last i checked, thomas jones led the AFC in rushing last year and the jets are one of the top rushing teams in the NFL this year.  now obviously this isn't all due to faneca, but the team has been able to run the ball.

 

added to that is the comments from both brick and nick about how much faneca has helped them develop as players.  it's obviously not something that shows up in a stat sheet, but he has helped bring leadership and cohesion to the line.

 

as to long-term replacements, i wouldn't write off matt slauson just yet.  the coaches seemed really high on him in camp.  i'm not sure if he's better suited for RG or LG (he seems more of a mauler, so perhaps RG), so there could be a potential down the road replacement on the line, to go along with nick and brick.

Don't disagree with anything your saying here Hobs, except I see Faneca's pass blocking issue a little differently.  His pass blocking has been spotty and sloppy, and is not improving......and It should be.  He gets paid like a veteran, pro-bowl caliber player.  He needs to play like one as well.  End of story.

 

Enough with the inconsistant pass blocking Mr. Faneca.  Your a pro - Get it Fixed.

i know you are an ex-lineman, so i trust your judgement.  do you think it is worse than last year?

ncgreen12 wrote:

 

atljet60 wrote: We have one of the most expensive OL's in the league. Something will give because Brick and Mangold have to be resigned later.

This is where those who are so liberal with giving away draft picks will feel the effects of not having enough to draft depth on the OL. It is by far the most important unit on the team and keeping a steady flow of the "next guy" is job 1 behind securing a QB.  I'm not sure I see anyone who can take over.

 

Don't think we are in trouble yet and I don't think Faneca isn't as bad as stated but he does seem to get beat at leat once a game and it always seems to be in a big spot..

Hard to argue with the success of most Tanny's trades, but losing quality depth is the flip side when you move up in the draft every year. Hopefully T-Rex trade down once or twice and pick up some of those lost picks.