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OT:Revis getting toasted this week in practices w/Eagles

Posted: 8/13/2014 11:12 AM

OT:Revis getting toasted this week in practices w/Eagles 


Jeremy Maclin has been "toasting" Darrelle Revis during 1-on-1 work at this week's joint practices.

To be fair, beat man Jeff McLane admits Revis doesn't appear to be going 100 percent. But it's still notable that Maclin is winning this battle, especially considering he's only 12 months removed from an ACL tear. On Tuesday, Maclin drew three flags on Revis and beat him deep for a touchdown. It was more of the same early in Wednesday's session. Clearly healthy, Maclin has WR2 upside as a key piece of Chip Kelly's plan to replace DeSean Jackson.
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Posted: 8/13/2014 11:15 AM

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I think a lot of teams will throw on the Patriots this season , ...  although they have many elite stars in their defensive backfield.... they will need a few suprises from their front seven

Posted: 8/13/2014 11:21 AM

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NYJDraftKing wrote: I think a lot of teams will throw on the Patriots this season , ...  although they have many elite stars in their defensive backfield.... they will need a few suprises from their front seven
First, pats need 0 surprises in their front 7 which is honestly almost as good as ours (I said it).

Chandler Jones, Wilfork, and Ninkovich are awesome.  I would take Ninkovich or Chandler Jones over Coples any day of the week.  Are either as good as Wilk or Richardson, not IMO, but some would take Jones over Wilk and Richardson I bet.

Now, browner and Revis can't cover the deep ball, so teams will go down field on them all day.

Also, McCourty will have to cover TEs and provide help over the top on Browner...so Revis is going to get bombed on a lot.  He better be ready.

Posted: 8/13/2014 11:23 AM

Re: OT:Revis getting toasted this week in practices w/Eagles 


Revis has never been known as a "practice warrior"; however, I'm sure he still has that 2nd gear that kicks in for live games.

Go Jets...Cyborg

Posted: 8/13/2014 11:26 AM

Re: OT:Revis getting toasted this week in practices w/Eagles 



cysporsche wrote: Revis has never been known as a "practice warrior"; however, I'm sure he still has that 2nd gear that kicks in for live games.

Go Jets...Cyborg
It all depends on his wheel. Some guys in speed positions never fully come back from serious knee injuries.

Posted: 8/13/2014 11:54 AM

Re: OT:Revis getting toasted this week in practices w/Eagles 


I think people read too much into practice and preseason. I believe what I see on gameday. As another poster suggested, players flip the switch when it matters.

Posted: 8/13/2014 12:02 PM

Re: OT:Revis getting toasted this week in practices w/Eagles 



cysporsche wrote: Revis has never been known as a "practice warrior"; however, I'm sure he still has that 2nd gear that kicks in for live games.

Go Jets...Cyborg
Hold on, I thought I read somewhere about how Revis practiced like he played.  Hated to give anything up, even in walk-throughs!  Is this revisionist history? wink
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Posted: 8/13/2014 12:12 PM

Re: OT:Revis getting toasted this week in practices w/Eagles 



Jetman55 wrote:
NYJDraftKing wrote: I think a lot of teams will throw on the Patriots this season , ...  although they have many elite stars in their defensive backfield.... they will need a few suprises from their front seven
First, pats need 0 surprises in their front 7 which is honestly almost as good as ours (I said it).

Chandler Jones, Wilfork, and Ninkovich are awesome.  I would take Ninkovich or Chandler Jones over Coples any day of the week.  Are either as good as Wilk or Richardson, not IMO, but some would take Jones over Wilk and Richardson I bet.

Now, browner and Revis can't cover the deep ball, so teams will go down field on them all day.

Also, McCourty will have to cover TEs and provide help over the top on Browner...so Revis is going to get bombed on a lot.  He better be ready.
Are you kidding me.....  Wilfork (Achilles) & Mayo (Pectoral & Shoulder) are coming off potential career ending 2013 injuries, Tommy Kelly is as old as dirt, Ninkovich in a passing down lineman.... Collins and Hightower are above average 4-3 LB's ...  I will give you the fact that C. Jones has plated well, but no where near the level of Wilkenson.
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Posted: 8/13/2014 12:14 PM

Re: OT:Revis getting toasted this week in practices w/Eagles 



cysporsche wrote: Revis has never been known as a "practice warrior"; however, I'm sure he still has that 2nd gear that kicks in for live games.

Go Jets...Cyborg

Didn't Rex  compare MacDougle to Revis by saying he won't let guys catch a pass in practice even in walk troughs?

So I think that says Revis was a practice warrior.  Maybe now with injury and a little age he is reserving his tank.
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Posted: 8/13/2014 12:33 PM

Re: OT:Revis getting toasted this week in practices w/Eagles 



Jetman55 wrote:
NYJDraftKing wrote: I think a lot of teams will throw on the Patriots this season , ...  although they have many elite stars in their defensive backfield.... they will need a few suprises from their front seven
First, pats need 0 surprises in their front 7 which is honestly almost as good as ours (I said it).

Chandler Jones, Wilfork, and Ninkovich are awesome.  I would take Ninkovich or Chandler Jones over Coples any day of the week.  Are either as good as Wilk or Richardson, not IMO, but some would take Jones over Wilk and Richardson I bet.

Now, browner and Revis can't cover the deep ball, so teams will go down field on them all day.

Also, McCourty will have to cover TEs and provide help over the top on Browner...so Revis is going to get bombed on a lot.  He better be ready.

There front seven is riddled with Older, declining players, injury prone players  and very suspect against the run

Scouting report on Patriots... Note their biggest weakness

http://riggosrag.com/2014/07/30/2014-nfl-power-rankings-countdown-4-new-england-patriots/

Now with that said here is my take.

No one would take Chandler Jones over Wilk or Richardson.... unless their need was just for a pass rusher but as overall football players. NO ONE!!!!

Wilfork a shell of himself.... I'll take Harrison over him
Ninkovich - Solid player nothing special I'll take Coples over him, Why? Coples hasn't played up to his potential yet and he is better than Ninkovich
Kelly - Old and broken down - I'll take Richardson over him
Jones - Very good pass rusher - average at best against the run - I'll take Wilkerson obviously why
Collins - Showed nothing in the reg season but came on in the playoffs big time. I like this kid over Pace
Mayo - Good player. Good against the run has trouble in coverage. Coming off injury.  If healthy Him and Harris are a wash
Hightower - Skill wise more talented than Davis.. Hasn't shown that talent.  Davis is improving and is a leader. i'll say wash here as well.

SO 7 players Advantage Jets on 4 NE on 1 and a wash on 2....

New England Avg Age: 28.57
NY Jets Avg::  26.7

advantage - Jets

OVERALL CLEAR ADVANTAGE JETS

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Posted: 8/13/2014 12:54 PM

Re: OT:Revis getting toasted this week in practices w/Eagles 



lounap23 wrote:
Jetman55 wrote:
NYJDraftKing wrote: I think a lot of teams will throw on the Patriots this season , ...  although they have many elite stars in their defensive backfield.... they will need a few suprises from their front seven
First, pats need 0 surprises in their front 7 which is honestly almost as good as ours (I said it).

Chandler Jones, Wilfork, and Ninkovich are awesome.  I would take Ninkovich or Chandler Jones over Coples any day of the week.  Are either as good as Wilk or Richardson, not IMO, but some would take Jones over Wilk and Richardson I bet.

Now, browner and Revis can't cover the deep ball, so teams will go down field on them all day.

Also, McCourty will have to cover TEs and provide help over the top on Browner...so Revis is going to get bombed on a lot.  He better be ready.

There front seven is riddled with Older, declining players, injury prone players  and very suspect against the run

Scouting report on Patriots... Note their biggest weakness

http://riggosrag.com/2014/07/30/2014-nfl-power-rankings-countdown-4-new-england-patriots/

Now with that said here is my take.

No one would take Chandler Jones over Wilk or Richardson.... unless their need was just for a pass rusher but as overall football players. NO ONE!!!!

Wilfork a shell of himself.... I'll take Harrison over him
Ninkovich - Solid player nothing special I'll take Coples over him, Why? Coples hasn't played up to his potential yet and he is better than Ninkovich
Kelly - Old and broken down - I'll take Richardson over him
Jones - Very good pass rusher - average at best against the run - I'll take Wilkerson obviously why
Collins - Showed nothing in the reg season but came on in the playoffs big time. I like this kid over Pace
Mayo - Good player. Good against the run has trouble in coverage. Coming off injury.  If healthy Him and Harris are a wash
Hightower - Skill wise more talented than Davis.. Hasn't shown that talent.  Davis is improving and is a leader. i'll say wash here as well.

SO 7 players Advantage Jets on 4 NE on 1 and a wash on 2....

New England Avg Age: 28.57
NY Jets Avg::  26.7

advantage - Jets

OVERALL CLEAR ADVANTAGE JETS
You responded to my post twice, I appreciate that.

Your response is a clear Jets homer post.  I just want to point that out first.

I promise you, not one non-Jets fan seriously looks at Coples, Harris, Davis, and Pace and gives our LB core a grade higher than a C, more likely C- since Pace at his age was our best LB last year (in a year most thought was his last year in the NFL).

You can say Wilkerson, Snacks, and Richardson is an A+ dline, but they're 3 players out of a front 7.

Coples, Harris, Davis, and Pace is a C (at best, a 3-4 defense without a guy who can get 10 sacks annually is usually a fairly suspect 3-4 D)

So that gives our front 7 a B/B+ grade with our 3 stud players and 4 average players.

Wilfork has dominated the Eagles oline.  Dominated. Hightower, Jones, Ninkovich is a stud (obviously some bias in that response), Mayo, and Collins gives them 6 B+ players in their front 7, not 3, 6.  

We have 4 LBs where none of them should grade out higher than a C+...none of them...I would trade all 4 of our LBs for their LBs right now.  Right now, give me Jones, Collins, Mayo, and Hightower behind our dline, are you kidding?  That's 4 of the front 7 better than 4 of our front 7 right there...

Now, Coples and Davis can raise their grades and give us 5 legit players up front with a solid Harris and Pace to make us that top 3 D they're talking about.  But to me, you said front 7, and I feel we have one of the worst 3-4 LB units in the entire NFL, until Davis and Coples finally step up on a consistent basis...

The entire reason we have no pass rush is we have no LBs that can get to the QB on their own without Rex's smoke and mirrors...not 1 LB that can win a 1:1 match-up.  Hence, Pace leading out team in sacks...because rex drew up a game plan to get him there (and Coples can't do the same when rex does the same for him).
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Posted: 8/13/2014 1:20 PM

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Jetman55 wrote:
lounap23 wrote:
Jetman55 wrote:
NYJDraftKing wrote: I think a lot of teams will throw on the Patriots this season , ...  although they have many elite stars in their defensive backfield.... they will need a few suprises from their front seven
First, pats need 0 surprises in their front 7 which is honestly almost as good as ours (I said it).

Chandler Jones, Wilfork, and Ninkovich are awesome.  I would take Ninkovich or Chandler Jones over Coples any day of the week.  Are either as good as Wilk or Richardson, not IMO, but some would take Jones over Wilk and Richardson I bet.

Now, browner and Revis can't cover the deep ball, so teams will go down field on them all day.

Also, McCourty will have to cover TEs and provide help over the top on Browner...so Revis is going to get bombed on a lot.  He better be ready.

There front seven is riddled with Older, declining players, injury prone players  and very suspect against the run

Scouting report on Patriots... Note their biggest weakness

http://riggosrag.com/2014/07/30/2014-nfl-power-rankings-countdown-4-new-england-patriots/

Now with that said here is my take.

No one would take Chandler Jones over Wilk or Richardson.... unless their need was just for a pass rusher but as overall football players. NO ONE!!!!

Wilfork a shell of himself.... I'll take Harrison over him
Ninkovich - Solid player nothing special I'll take Coples over him, Why? Coples hasn't played up to his potential yet and he is better than Ninkovich
Kelly - Old and broken down - I'll take Richardson over him
Jones - Very good pass rusher - average at best against the run - I'll take Wilkerson obviously why
Collins - Showed nothing in the reg season but came on in the playoffs big time. I like this kid over Pace
Mayo - Good player. Good against the run has trouble in coverage. Coming off injury.  If healthy Him and Harris are a wash
Hightower - Skill wise more talented than Davis.. Hasn't shown that talent.  Davis is improving and is a leader. i'll say wash here as well.

SO 7 players Advantage Jets on 4 NE on 1 and a wash on 2....

New England Avg Age: 28.57
NY Jets Avg::  26.7

advantage - Jets

OVERALL CLEAR ADVANTAGE JETS
You responded to my post twice, I appreciate that.

Your response is a clear Jets homer post.  I just want to point that out first.

I promise you, not one non-Jets fan seriously looks at Coples, Harris, Davis, and Pace and gives our LB core a grade higher than a C, more likely C- since Pace at his age was our best LB last year (in a year most thought was his last year in the NFL).

You can say Wilkerson, Snacks, and Richardson is an A+ dline, but they're 3 players out of a front 7.

Coples, Harris, Davis, and Pace is a C (at best, a 3-4 defense without a guy who can get 10 sacks annually is usually a fairly suspect 3-4 D)

So that gives our front 7 a B/B+ grade with our 3 stud players and 4 average players.

Wilfork has dominated the Eagles oline.  Dominated. Hightower, Jones, Ninkovich is a stud (obviously some bias in that response), Mayo, and Collins gives them 6 B+ players in their front 7, not 3, 6.  

We have 4 LBs where none of them should grade out higher than a C+...none of them...I would trade all 4 of our LBs for their LBs right now.  Right now, give me Jones, Collins, Mayo, and Hightower behind our dline, are you kidding?  That's 4 of the front 7 better than 4 of our front 7 right there...

Now, Coples and Davis can raise their grades and give us 5 legit players up front with a solid Harris and Pace to make us that top 3 D they're talking about.  But to me, you said front 7, and I feel we have one of the worst 3-4 LB units in the entire NFL, until Davis and Coples finally step up on a consistent basis...

The entire reason we have no pass rush is we have no LBs that can get to the QB on their own without Rex's smoke and mirrors...not 1 LB that can win a 1:1 match-up.  Hence, Pace leading out team in sacks...because rex drew up a game plan to get him there (and Coples can't do the same when rex does the same for him).
Our pass rush was better than 19 other teams last year based on sacks.... thrown in qb hurries and knockdowns more than 28 teams...  So saying we have no pass rush is not accurate... Our secondary was and still is our ????

Coples isn't used in the same pass rush role you think he is in Rex's D......  He penetrates and holds the backside.  Yes I agree he needs to improve but he is the better player than Ninkovich... Ninkovich is solid but he is no stud( thanks for pointing out your bias)  neither is Mayo... He is an above avg player but no stud.. JOnes is just a pure pass rusher.  He is avg at best against the run..... The Collins kid.... what I saw in the playoffs was pure beast mode ****..I give that to him but your assessment is off on every other player on the Pats...

Wilfork 5 years ago I would take over anyone on our D .. today nope... don't care he is dominating practices in preseason against the Eagles.. means nothing

Hightower is not better then any of our LBs but it's a comparison of Apples and Oranges  beacue they are in a 4-3 and we are in a 3-4... My take was a comparison of our D playing in a 4-3 role in which our front 7 dominates just about every front 7 in the league outside of the Rams

Which by the way NFL Radio talked about the Rams front 7 yesterday and said only the Jets have a front 7 you can maybe even talk about as having a front 7 as good in the same breath and that's a stretch....

My assessment you can call homerim but apparently Tim Kirwan , Gil Brandt, and Jim Miller all feel similarly to me about the Jets front 7 being considered the best, well behind the Rams... 2 of those 3 guys are well respected talent evaluators and Jim Miller is pretty solid in his assessments. 

Last edited 8/13/2014 1:22 PM by lounap23

Posted: 8/13/2014 2:15 PM

Re: OT:Revis getting toasted this week in practices w/Eagles 


Just wondering 55 if you are a jet fan... you seem to take delight in putting the team, players, coaches and FO down most of the time if... under the guise of an objective opinion.
Jetman55 wrote:
lounap23 wrote:
Jetman55 wrote:
NYJDraftKing wrote: I think a lot of teams will throw on the Patriots this season , ...  although they have many elite stars in their defensive backfield.... they will need a few suprises from their front seven
First, pats need 0 surprises in their front 7 which is honestly almost as good as ours (I said it).

Chandler Jones, Wilfork, and Ninkovich are awesome.  I would take Ninkovich or Chandler Jones over Coples any day of the week.  Are either as good as Wilk or Richardson, not IMO, but some would take Jones over Wilk and Richardson I bet.

Now, browner and Revis can't cover the deep ball, so teams will go down field on them all day.

Also, McCourty will have to cover TEs and provide help over the top on Browner...so Revis is going to get bombed on a lot.  He better be ready.

There front seven is riddled with Older, declining players, injury prone players  and very suspect against the run

Scouting report on Patriots... Note their biggest weakness

http://riggosrag.com/2014/07/30/2014-nfl-power-rankings-countdown-4-new-england-patriots/

Now with that said here is my take.

No one would take Chandler Jones over Wilk or Richardson.... unless their need was just for a pass rusher but as overall football players. NO ONE!!!!

Wilfork a shell of himself.... I'll take Harrison over him
Ninkovich - Solid player nothing special I'll take Coples over him, Why? Coples hasn't played up to his potential yet and he is better than Ninkovich
Kelly - Old and broken down - I'll take Richardson over him
Jones - Very good pass rusher - average at best against the run - I'll take Wilkerson obviously why
Collins - Showed nothing in the reg season but came on in the playoffs big time. I like this kid over Pace
Mayo - Good player. Good against the run has trouble in coverage. Coming off injury.  If healthy Him and Harris are a wash
Hightower - Skill wise more talented than Davis.. Hasn't shown that talent.  Davis is improving and is a leader. i'll say wash here as well.

SO 7 players Advantage Jets on 4 NE on 1 and a wash on 2....

New England Avg Age: 28.57
NY Jets Avg::  26.7

advantage - Jets

OVERALL CLEAR ADVANTAGE JETS
You responded to my post twice, I appreciate that.

Your response is a clear Jets homer post.  I just want to point that out first.

I promise you, not one non-Jets fan seriously looks at Coples, Harris, Davis, and Pace and gives our LB core a grade higher than a C, more likely C- since Pace at his age was our best LB last year (in a year most thought was his last year in the NFL).

You can say Wilkerson, Snacks, and Richardson is an A+ dline, but they're 3 players out of a front 7.

Coples, Harris, Davis, and Pace is a C (at best, a 3-4 defense without a guy who can get 10 sacks annually is usually a fairly suspect 3-4 D)

So that gives our front 7 a B/B+ grade with our 3 stud players and 4 average players.

Wilfork has dominated the Eagles oline.  Dominated. Hightower, Jones, Ninkovich is a stud (obviously some bias in that response), Mayo, and Collins gives them 6 B+ players in their front 7, not 3, 6.  

We have 4 LBs where none of them should grade out higher than a C+...none of them...I would trade all 4 of our LBs for their LBs right now.  Right now, give me Jones, Collins, Mayo, and Hightower behind our dline, are you kidding?  That's 4 of the front 7 better than 4 of our front 7 right there...

Now, Coples and Davis can raise their grades and give us 5 legit players up front with a solid Harris and Pace to make us that top 3 D they're talking about.  But to me, you said front 7, and I feel we have one of the worst 3-4 LB units in the entire NFL, until Davis and Coples finally step up on a consistent basis...

The entire reason we have no pass rush is we have no LBs that can get to the QB on their own without Rex's smoke and mirrors...not 1 LB that can win a 1:1 match-up.  Hence, Pace leading out team in sacks...because rex drew up a game plan to get him there (and Coples can't do the same when rex does the same for him).
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Posted: 8/13/2014 2:41 PM

Re: OT:Revis getting toasted this week in practices w/Eagles 


Okay everyone, let's stay cool. No reason to go at one another.
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Posted: 8/13/2014 2:44 PM

Re: OT:Revis getting toasted this week in practices w/Eagles 



jgrote wrote:
cysporsche wrote: Revis has never been known as a "practice warrior"; however, I'm sure he still has that 2nd gear that kicks in for live games.

Go Jets...Cyborg
Hold on, I thought I read somewhere about how Revis practiced like he played.  Hated to give anything up, even in walk-throughs!  Is this revisionist history? wink
All i kept hearing was that Revis went 100% every practice.

Posted: 8/13/2014 2:57 PM

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SOJ wrote: Just wondering 55 if you are a jet fan... you seem to take delight in putting the team, players, coaches and FO down most of the time if... under the guise of an objective opinion.
Jetman55 wrote:
lounap23 wrote:
Jetman55 wrote:
NYJDraftKing wrote: I think a lot of teams will throw on the Patriots this season , ...  although they have many elite stars in their defensive backfield.... they will need a few suprises from their front seven
First, pats need 0 surprises in their front 7 which is honestly almost as good as ours (I said it).

Chandler Jones, Wilfork, and Ninkovich are awesome.  I would take Ninkovich or Chandler Jones over Coples any day of the week.  Are either as good as Wilk or Richardson, not IMO, but some would take Jones over Wilk and Richardson I bet.

Now, browner and Revis can't cover the deep ball, so teams will go down field on them all day.

Also, McCourty will have to cover TEs and provide help over the top on Browner...so Revis is going to get bombed on a lot.  He better be ready.

There front seven is riddled with Older, declining players, injury prone players  and very suspect against the run

Scouting report on Patriots... Note their biggest weakness

http://riggosrag.com/2014/07/30/2014-nfl-power-rankings-countdown-4-new-england-patriots/

Now with that said here is my take.

No one would take Chandler Jones over Wilk or Richardson.... unless their need was just for a pass rusher but as overall football players. NO ONE!!!!

Wilfork a shell of himself.... I'll take Harrison over him
Ninkovich - Solid player nothing special I'll take Coples over him, Why? Coples hasn't played up to his potential yet and he is better than Ninkovich
Kelly - Old and broken down - I'll take Richardson over him
Jones - Very good pass rusher - average at best against the run - I'll take Wilkerson obviously why
Collins - Showed nothing in the reg season but came on in the playoffs big time. I like this kid over Pace
Mayo - Good player. Good against the run has trouble in coverage. Coming off injury.  If healthy Him and Harris are a wash
Hightower - Skill wise more talented than Davis.. Hasn't shown that talent.  Davis is improving and is a leader. i'll say wash here as well.

SO 7 players Advantage Jets on 4 NE on 1 and a wash on 2....

New England Avg Age: 28.57
NY Jets Avg::  26.7

advantage - Jets

OVERALL CLEAR ADVANTAGE JETS
You responded to my post twice, I appreciate that.

Your response is a clear Jets homer post.  I just want to point that out first.

I promise you, not one non-Jets fan seriously looks at Coples, Harris, Davis, and Pace and gives our LB core a grade higher than a C, more likely C- since Pace at his age was our best LB last year (in a year most thought was his last year in the NFL).

You can say Wilkerson, Snacks, and Richardson is an A+ dline, but they're 3 players out of a front 7.

Coples, Harris, Davis, and Pace is a C (at best, a 3-4 defense without a guy who can get 10 sacks annually is usually a fairly suspect 3-4 D)

So that gives our front 7 a B/B+ grade with our 3 stud players and 4 average players.

Wilfork has dominated the Eagles oline.  Dominated. Hightower, Jones, Ninkovich is a stud (obviously some bias in that response), Mayo, and Collins gives them 6 B+ players in their front 7, not 3, 6.  

We have 4 LBs where none of them should grade out higher than a C+...none of them...I would trade all 4 of our LBs for their LBs right now.  Right now, give me Jones, Collins, Mayo, and Hightower behind our dline, are you kidding?  That's 4 of the front 7 better than 4 of our front 7 right there...

Now, Coples and Davis can raise their grades and give us 5 legit players up front with a solid Harris and Pace to make us that top 3 D they're talking about.  But to me, you said front 7, and I feel we have one of the worst 3-4 LB units in the entire NFL, until Davis and Coples finally step up on a consistent basis...

The entire reason we have no pass rush is we have no LBs that can get to the QB on their own without Rex's smoke and mirrors...not 1 LB that can win a 1:1 match-up.  Hence, Pace leading out team in sacks...because rex drew up a game plan to get him there (and Coples can't do the same when rex does the same for him).
Again, says the guy with the name Same old Jets.

I apologize I don't paint every one of our moves as a homerun like other fans on this site (see above).  I apologize if I was skeptical of Idzik not bringing in a legit replacement for Hill and now we need...a legit replacement for Hill.  I don't see that as bashing Idzik even though everyone on the board does...but guess who is right....

I hate to be the one poster on the site who doesn't feel our entire roster, coaching staff, and management team is heading to the hall of fame...but every site needs one poster without rose colored glasses.

But why am I telling you, you feel we'll always be the same old Rich Kotite Jets...or you wouldn't have picked the name. crazycrazycrazy  So I find the question rich.

Heaven forbid I recommend Idzik actually attend meetings when free agents visit, spends our salary cap money that doesn't carry over (he still may), and address team needs (unless you still feel Hill is a starting caliber NFL WR and Patterson is a NFL starting caliber CB, have at it).

Idzik is leading the team in the right direction...but at a snails pace.

And I'm not sure why I am being called out for calling out Stephen Hill, Coples, Davis, Amaro, and Patterson for needing to step up their game.  Do you feel they're currently playing at the level our team deserves?  Sorry that I don't I guess.  But I expect more for a high potential millionaire athlete to put in the work to realize their potential.  Maybe I just have higher standards.  That probably the answer to your question.  I'm not part of the SOJ fans happy with 8-8 and 9-7.  I want a team built as a solid franchise for years to come...and we're heading there.

Posted: 8/13/2014 3:01 PM

Re: OT:Revis getting toasted this week in practices w/Eagles 


ok, this thread is being closed.  there is no reason for this personal back and forth.  in any event, we have an around the league thread, so if people want to discuss revis' practices, or the pats roster, you can do so there.