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Possible CB Acquisitions ??

Posted: 8/10/2014 2:10 PM

Possible CB Acquisitions ?? 


With Milliner and McDougle going down today and both scheduled for MRIs (hoping for the best but expecting the worst) and Patterson dinged up and struggling...

What CBs could we potentially acquire before the season? Any free-agents left? Recent retirees? Potential late camp cuts? Via trade?

(Please let's focus this thread on potential future options and not rehashing the debate over the off season plan at CB up until this point).

Thanks!
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Posted: 8/10/2014 3:53 PM

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few guys still on the street.  not 100% sure on all of these

asante samuel, corey webster, chris carr, jabari greer, quinten jammer, dunta robinson
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Posted: 8/10/2014 4:08 PM

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I wouldn't want a part of any of those guys but would be willing to take a shot with Samuel
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Posted: 8/10/2014 5:45 PM

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All of those guys may be past their prime but they know how to play the position and can probably help.
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Posted: 8/10/2014 5:46 PM

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I'd take a shot on Samuel and Robinson
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Posted: 8/10/2014 7:01 PM

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The guys listed are a lot of retreads. We have a surplus on the D Line and a team like the Cowboys have no defense. How about we explore something for Claiborne?
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Posted: 8/10/2014 7:12 PM

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I thought we were trading for Clairborne around draft time.  I think he is a perfect fit for Rex's defense.
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Posted: 8/10/2014 7:46 PM

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I thought we were trading for Clairborne around draft time.  I think he is a perfect fit for Rex's defense.

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Who is Dallas going to replace him with?...they did finish last in defense last season,
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Posted: 8/10/2014 8:50 PM

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We should bring in two of those guys to try and compete
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Posted: 8/10/2014 9:11 PM

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Jets looking to players on the street to be their #1 CB.  Like I've been saying the entire time, good thing Idzik saved that $21.5 mill in cap space so the jets can sign Asante Samuel, Ty law, Aaron Glenn, or maybe even Prime Time!!!!!

Idzik, pssssst, the CBs you actually needed were available in...March...if any good CBs were available, the Cowboys would have signed them by now. crazycrazycrazy


The Jets reached out to free agent CB Asante Samuel after Dee Milliner and Dexter McDougle's injuries, but are "unlikely to sign him."

FOX Sports' Mike Garafolo reports the Jets are trying to "bargain shop," but Samuel wasn't having it. Samuel must be quite willing to retire because he hasn't had any other known nibbles since the Falcons cut him last February. He would be a candidate to start Week 1 in the injury-riddled Jets secondary.
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Posted: 8/10/2014 9:18 PM

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How good would Walter Thurmond look on the Jets right now?


'Quiet assassin' Thurmond standing out

August, 7, 2014
AUG 7
5:30
PM ET
By  Dan Graziano  | ESPN.com
EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Reputations are funny things, and when a guy comes to you from the defensive backfield of the 2013 Seattle Seahawks, you expect ... well, you expect someone loud and maybe a little bit obnoxious. In that respect, cornerback Walter Thurmond has not been what the New York Giants expected. 

Thurmond
"We call him the quiet assassin," defensive coordinator Perry Fewell said. "So he's more quiet than I expected him to be. But he's the assassin. He loves to compete." 

There's not a player in New York Giants camp who's been more consistently impressive, day after day in practice, than Thurmond. The Giants signed him to be their slot cornerback, so when they run first-team vs. first-team he coversVictor Cruz, who has not caught very many passes this camp at all. 

"Our secondary is really good, and I know this because they give me fits each and every day out here," Cruz sighed when asked about the new cornerbacks Wednesday. "It's good to go up against guys that are like that, because that's what we're going to face all year long. Guys are going to try to be physical and press us and things like that, and we have to be ready." 

Practicing against Thurmond should help Cruz get ready, because it's no stretch to say that Thurmond is the best slot corner in the league. The Giants believe he can play on the outside if need be, and it's important to Thurmond that they and other teams see him as someone who's versatile like that. But in the slot, he's an elite player. 

"We feel like we can use him on the outside, but boy I like him in the slot," Fewell said. "Just knowledge, know-how. It's the 'it' factor. People try to describe 'it?' He's got 'it.'" 

If the Giants can keep Thurmond in the slot with Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and Prince Amukamara on the outside, they'll love their cornerback situation. They'll be able to keepAntrel Rolle, who always seems to have to spend part of the year in that nickel corner role, at safety full-time, which will make him happy and more effective. And as long as Thurmond is lined up against slot receivers, they'll feel they have an advantage against the opponent's passing game. 

"I have the confidence in myself to believe I'm the best at what I do," Thurmond said earlier in camp. "And I think I bring that out onto the field with me every single play. To play cornerback, and to play that nickel spot, that's the way you have to look at it." 

That's the way the Giants look at Thurmond, who has a chance to turn out to be their best value signing of the offseason.
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Posted: 8/10/2014 10:37 PM

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4 UFAs available worth mentioning, in order of ability.
Asante Samuel, Dunta Robinson,  ex-Packers James Nixon, (whom I thought the Packers should have kept except everyone they did keep is already proven to be better), & old-timer Jabari Greer - who really isn't available due to an ACL tear against SF late last year.
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Posted: 8/10/2014 11:43 PM

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What about Chris Houston from Detroit?
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Posted: 8/11/2014 9:37 AM

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Jetman55 wrote: How good would Walter Thurmond look on the Jets right now?


There's not a player in New York Giants camp who's been more consistently impressive, day after day in practice, than Thurmond. The Giants signed him to be their slot cornerback, so when they run first-team vs. first-team he covers 
Victor Cruz, who has not caught very many passes this camp at all. 



do we need a slot corner?  i thought we needed an outside starting corner
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Posted: 8/11/2014 10:38 AM

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hobson54 wrote:
Jetman55 wrote: How good would Walter Thurmond look on the Jets right now?


There's not a player in New York Giants camp who's been more consistently impressive, day after day in practice, than Thurmond. The Giants signed him to be their slot cornerback, so when they run first-team vs. first-team he covers 
Victor Cruz, who has not caught very many passes this camp at all. 



do we need a slot corner?  i thought we needed an outside starting corner
Me too, then Idzik signed Patterson to play on the outside...so I guess it doesn't matter.

If I had to pick a cover corner that specializes in playing nickel to start on the outside, there isn't another nickel CB I'd pick in the entire NFL over Thurmond.
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Posted: 8/11/2014 6:51 PM

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GangGreenGangster wrote: What about Chris Houston from Detroit?
Definitely a 2nd rater, has trouble in man coverages especially, which Rex's defense is predicated on.
Even though DET's secondary has suxed for a decade, they let Houston go as an irredeemable project, finally.
Partially it was due to injury concerns, having missed 1, 3, 2, & 4 games over the past 4 yeaers in DET, (but he's playing dinged up a lot more often than he's out).
Houston is 5'-11" but he only weighs 178#.
Partially it was also because; while he can defend passes in zone coverage, any time the DET defense uses an extra 2 men up front and has to rely on man coverages, he gets toasted.
His best year was 2011. Since then it's gone downhill.
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Posted: 8/11/2014 7:15 PM

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HYATT ...  your beloved Packers have an over abundance of talented DB's..... who might be available?  a good fit?  and at what price?
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Posted: 8/12/2014 11:24 AM

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We just signed LeQuan Lewis  !!!!!
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Posted: 8/12/2014 11:28 AM

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Wow 8 teams in 2 years............guess you need guys for camp.
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Posted: 8/12/2014 6:57 PM

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Gotta wait on a potential signing until the final cuts.  Nobody at there right now is worth a ****...... at least with the final cuts, there may be a few good prospects out there..  I'm sure Idzik is aware of this.....
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