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Possible Trades of our surplus

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Posted: 7/26/2014 12:51 PM

Possible Trades of our surplus 


How about trading either Alex Green or Daryl Richardson to the Colts ..  right now for a conditional 5th round pick.  Colts need someone to replace Vic Ballard (torn left Achilles tendon and will be out for the season) ..  as of now both of these guys are longshots to make our Opening Day roster...  but now in July  ...  they have their best value....


And could be the first  +1 value in accumulating additional draft picks.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 1:03 PM

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They're more likely to hold onto their picks and wait for a cut, I would think.

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Posted: 7/26/2014 1:09 PM

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SackExchange wrote: They're more likely to hold onto their picks and wait for a cut, I would think.
Generally I would agree, but it seems to take approx. 4 or so weeks to effectively wotk a RB into a system.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 2:00 PM

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Bilal Powell might have some trade value but not Green or Richardson
ROLL TIDE!
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Posted: 7/26/2014 2:49 PM

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I would suggest Kyle Wilson. Last year of his contract, we have guys (Patterson) that would be good at the nickel, and it seems some CB's have gone down in the preseason. Might be a seller's market?
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Posted: 7/26/2014 3:58 PM

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trico990 wrote: I would suggest Kyle Wilson. Last year of his contract, we have guys (Patterson) that would be good at the nickel, and it seems some CB's have gone down in the preseason. Might be a seller's market?
I'd call Cleveland and see what Pettine would give up for him.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 4:22 PM

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Jetman55 wrote:
trico990 wrote: I would suggest Kyle Wilson. Last year of his contract, we have guys (Patterson) that would be good at the nickel, and it seems some CB's have gone down in the preseason. Might be a seller's market?
I'd call Cleveland and see what Pettine would give up for him.
Cleveland has a nice secondary... I'd call Dallas who does'nt
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Posted: 7/26/2014 5:48 PM

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marac wrote:
Jetman55 wrote:
trico990 wrote: I would suggest Kyle Wilson. Last year of his contract, we have guys (Patterson) that would be good at the nickel, and it seems some CB's have gone down in the preseason. Might be a seller's market?
I'd call Cleveland and see what Pettine would give up for him.
Cleveland has a nice secondary... I'd call Dallas who does'nt
Rex Ryan has always been enamored by Morris Claiborne, so that might be a conversation starter.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 7:32 PM

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I would suggest Kyle Wilson. Last year of his contract, we have guys (Patterson) that would be good at the nickel, and it seems some CB's have gone down in the preseason. Might be a seller's market?

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Is there a surplus at CB? I see some question marks there, with a lot of young and unproven players. Not sure trading Kyle Wilson improves the position. He's probably first up to replace an injured starter, assuming it's Milliner and Patterson. Walls has a very brief resume, and McDougle needs some seasoning.

Besides, trades are not that common. I doubt anyone gives us much for an average CB.
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Posted: 7/27/2014 10:38 AM

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BlindsideBrick wrote:


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I would suggest Kyle Wilson. Last year of his contract, we have guys (Patterson) that would be good at the nickel, and it seems some CB's have gone down in the preseason. Might be a seller's market?

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Is there a surplus at CB? I see some question marks there, with a lot of young and unproven players. Not sure trading Kyle Wilson improves the position. He's probably first up to replace an injured starter, assuming it's Milliner and Patterson. Walls has a very brief resume, and McDougle needs some seasoning.

Besides, trades are not that common. I doubt anyone gives us much for an average CB.
I guess for me personally I'll take young and unproven players over a veteran that is still unproven. Just the way McDougle turns his hips and closes on the ball puts him light years ahead of Wilson, IMO.
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Posted: 7/27/2014 12:42 PM

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If the Jets cut Wilson, Patterson, McDougle today, Wilson would have the most interest. Wilson is also a young veteran, who has played in 64 games in 4 season and started 26. The league is full of average players like Wilson many of them former 1st round picks as well. I haven't really seen Patterson, and I'm rooting for McDougle to win the spot opposite Miliner...I also hope Miliner is better and stays healthy.....when I see the depth at corner I conclude that Wilson is needed.
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Posted: 7/27/2014 12:55 PM

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Lakerfan1980 wrote: If the Jets cut Wilson, Patterson, McDougle today, Wilson would have the most interest. Wilson is also a young veteran, who has played in 64 games in 4 season and started 26. The league is full of average players like Wilson many of them former 1st round picks as well. I haven't really seen Patterson, and I'm rooting for McDougle to win the spot opposite Miliner...I also hope Miliner is better and stays healthy.....when I see the depth at corner I conclude that Wilson is needed.

You might be right but I think McDougle would be the first of those three to sign somewhere. I just don't think Wilson has it. He survived last year because QB's were throwing at the rookie in Milliner and a banged up Cromartie. If there is any improvement at the CB position this year he will be thrown at constantly, plus it's the last year of his contract. I think you try and get something for him while you can.
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Posted: 7/27/2014 4:26 PM

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Wilson hasn't lived up to his draft status but he is a pretty good nickel. Let's not confuse or downplay his abilities because he was a lousy 1st rounder.

people used to do the same with Bryan Thomas.... Bag on him all the time for the exact same reason






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Posted: 7/27/2014 5:17 PM

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broadwayjoe2 wrote: Wilson hasn't lived up to his draft status but he is a pretty good nickel. Let's not confuse or downplay his abilities because he was a lousy 1st rounder.

people used to do the same with Bryan Thomas.... Bag on him all the time for the exact same reason

I have to disagree Joe. I can't find the article from TOJ, although I bet 51 can, that shows how last years numbers were skewered but even to the naked I don't think a guy that can't turn his hips at the CB position can be considered a good CB.
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Posted: 7/28/2014 10:37 AM

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trico990 wrote:
broadwayjoe2 wrote: Wilson hasn't lived up to his draft status but he is a pretty good nickel. Let's not confuse or downplay his abilities because he was a lousy 1st rounder.

people used to do the same with Bryan Thomas.... Bag on him all the time for the exact same reason

I have to disagree Joe. I can't find the article from TOJ, although I bet 51 can, that shows how last years numbers were skewered but even to the naked I don't think a guy that can't turn his hips at the CB position can be considered a good CB.

Depends what you make him do....  if you're going to have him playing centre field, it's not as much of a problem.
Do I think he's a great CB in man to man or on the outside... not really.  Do I think that we should be moving him right now?  Nope, he's still better than a lot of guys on the team.

I would be disappointed if Dowling doesn't make the team and Wilson does though.  I think Dowling is a great opportunity to make chicken salad out of chicken ____

My overall point is I don't think you're going to get anything for him anyways, we have a ton of cap space, so why cut a guy who knows the system.  I think dumping him would be a mistake considering the other options that are available. 

So again, I think he was a lousy 1st Rd pick, but if I stop looking at him with any sort influence in terms of where he was picked..... he isn't THAT bad.

So until there is a better option than him, and his salary isn't a huge pressing issue.... he'd be part of my team, and I'd be willing to live with his limitations.






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Posted: 7/28/2014 11:03 AM

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NYJDraftKing wrote: How about trading either Alex Green or Daryl Richardson to the Colts ..  right now for a conditional 5th round pick.  Colts need someone to replace Vic Ballard (torn left Achilles tendon and will be out for the season) ..  as of now both of these guys are longshots to make our Opening Day roster...  but now in July  ...  they have their best value....


And could be the first  +1 value in accumulating additional draft picks.
No NFL team is going to trade now-they'll wait for mandatory cuts to get bodies.  For example, the Colts know the Jets are going to probably cut Alex Green and/or Daryl Richardson.  They would be idiots to trade draft picks for them.
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Posted: 7/28/2014 11:25 AM

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parcells123 wrote:
NYJDraftKing wrote: How about trading either Alex Green or Daryl Richardson to the Colts ..  right now for a conditional 5th round pick.  Colts need someone to replace Vic Ballard (torn left Achilles tendon and will be out for the season) ..  as of now both of these guys are longshots to make our Opening Day roster...  but now in July  ...  they have their best value....


And could be the first  +1 value in accumulating additional draft picks.
No NFL team is going to trade now-they'll wait for mandatory cuts to get bodies.  For example, the Colts know the Jets are going to probably cut Alex Green and/or Daryl Richardson.  They would be idiots to trade draft picks for them.
True, but don't you run the risk of losing a roster cut to a lower ranked team?  So, if you want someone bad enough a 5th or 6th rounder might be worth it.  Just sayin.
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Posted: 7/28/2014 11:30 AM

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jgrote wrote:
parcells123 wrote:
NYJDraftKing wrote: How about trading either Alex Green or Daryl Richardson to the Colts ..  right now for a conditional 5th round pick.  Colts need someone to replace Vic Ballard (torn left Achilles tendon and will be out for the season) ..  as of now both of these guys are longshots to make our Opening Day roster...  but now in July  ...  they have their best value....


And could be the first  +1 value in accumulating additional draft picks.
No NFL team is going to trade now-they'll wait for mandatory cuts to get bodies.  For example, the Colts know the Jets are going to probably cut Alex Green and/or Daryl Richardson.  They would be idiots to trade draft picks for them.
True, but don't you run the risk of losing a roster cut to a lower ranked team?  So, if you want someone bad enough a 5th or 6th rounder might be worth it.  Just sayin.


I highly doubt either of these guys have any trade value.  they are players we signed off the street, and there are other street free agent RBs that could be had for nothing (ronnie brown, willis mcgehee, michael bush, felix jones, and bernard scott are all available i believe).
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Posted: 7/28/2014 11:38 AM

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hobson54 wrote:
jgrote wrote:
parcells123 wrote:
NYJDraftKing wrote: How about trading either Alex Green or Daryl Richardson to the Colts ..  right now for a conditional 5th round pick.  Colts need someone to replace Vic Ballard (torn left Achilles tendon and will be out for the season) ..  as of now both of these guys are longshots to make our Opening Day roster...  but now in July  ...  they have their best value....


And could be the first  +1 value in accumulating additional draft picks.
No NFL team is going to trade now-they'll wait for mandatory cuts to get bodies.  For example, the Colts know the Jets are going to probably cut Alex Green and/or Daryl Richardson.  They would be idiots to trade draft picks for them.
True, but don't you run the risk of losing a roster cut to a lower ranked team?  So, if you want someone bad enough a 5th or 6th rounder might be worth it.  Just sayin.


I highly doubt either of these guys have any trade value.  they are players we signed off the street, and there are other street free agent RBs that could be had for nothing (ronnie brown, willis mcgehee, michael bush, felix jones, and bernard scott are all available i believe).
You're probably correct about the aforementioned RBs, unless Richardson shows that he is fully healthy and has retained the explosiveness.  Still a young guy, so may be worth it to a team with a specific need who doesn't want an older back.
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Posted: 7/28/2014 11:40 AM

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broadwayjoe2 wrote:
trico990 wrote:
broadwayjoe2 wrote: Wilson hasn't lived up to his draft status but he is a pretty good nickel. Let's not confuse or downplay his abilities because he was a lousy 1st rounder.

people used to do the same with Bryan Thomas.... Bag on him all the time for the exact same reason

I have to disagree Joe. I can't find the article from TOJ, although I bet 51 can, that shows how last years numbers were skewered but even to the naked I don't think a guy that can't turn his hips at the CB position can be considered a good CB.

Depends what you make him do....  if you're going to have him playing centre field, it's not as much of a problem.
Do I think he's a great CB in man to man or on the outside... not really.  Do I think that we should be moving him right now?  Nope, he's still better than a lot of guys on the team.

I would be disappointed if Dowling doesn't make the team and Wilson does though.  I think Dowling is a great opportunity to make chicken salad out of chicken ____

My overall point is I don't think you're going to get anything for him anyways, we have a ton of cap space, so why cut a guy who knows the system.  I think dumping him would be a mistake considering the other options that are available. 

So again, I think he was a lousy 1st Rd pick, but if I stop looking at him with any sort influence in terms of where he was picked..... he isn't THAT bad.

So until there is a better option than him, and his salary isn't a huge pressing issue.... he'd be part of my team, and I'd be willing to live with his limitations.

I like Dowling also. One thing is for sure, barring injuries, our last round of cuts are going to be awfully interesting.
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