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What will the Jets get from Chris Johnson this season?

Posted: 6/6/2014 8:13 PM

What will the Jets get from Chris Johnson this season? 


It's clear the Jets needed more big play ability on offense, and when the team signed Chris Johnson it was a perfect fit. 

The question remains though, how much exactly can he offer? He's been a 250+ carry-a-season running back since he entered the league and has averaged 45 catches a season on top of that, and has showed some pretty remarkable durability playing in nearly every game for Tennessee since he's been in the league. He has seen a lot of use in his six years in the league.

His last season with Tennessee was his least productive as a pure runner (3.9 YPC, longest run of 30 yards) and the Titans decided to cut ties with him rather than continue to pay him the top dollar they originally signed him to when his contract was extended in 2011. Is it the sign of a workhorse back finally starting to burn out, or the Titans just looking for a new direction? 

He appears to be a natural fit at least for the "LT role" of splitting carries with a between-the-tackles runner like Ivory and being a receiving threat out of the backfield. Chris Johnson says he is comfortable in such a role, but the Jets haven't promised him anything specific. Does he still have what it takes to be a feature back? Or is the complementary runner the most we should expect? 

What do you guys think we'll get from Chris Johnson?

    Chris Johnson will...

  1. Poll closed on 09/13/2014
  2. be the feature back and have a Pro Bowl season: 3 votes
  3. be the feature back and have a productive season: 6 votes
  4. split carries with Ivory and have a productive season: 11 votes
  5. see limited opportunities and mostly catch passes: 0 votes
  6. look washed up and not have an impact: 1 vote
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Posted: 6/6/2014 8:26 PM

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I kind of think it may be a split of the top 2.  I think he'll start, catch a lot of passes, but split carries with ivory.  I think he's going to surprise people with how much he has left in the tank, and be used like McCoy with the Eagles.  He wont be as productive as McCoy, but he has the wiggle, and drive to be very good in a similar capacity.  I think Ivory will eaither get banged up, as he always does, and more and more of the workload will shift to CJ2K.  I could see him getting 1,200-1,500 yards and Ivory getting 400-600 and CJ2K getting a shot at the pro bowl if he leads us to the play-offs and shows glimpses of his old form.  

I still think he's a special back and in a better system for his skill sets than he was with the Titans.  While PFF ranks us as the 23rd in the league in talent; if that's the case, the Titans have to be 28-30th.
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Posted: 6/7/2014 4:55 AM

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The problem has been that CJ2k is a "finesse" back, not a "power" back, but TEN insisted on treating him like a "power" back and working him where they never should have & he wore down a bit as the seasons progressed.
He was, therefore, not as effective as he could have been as a strictly "weapon"  type of quick-hitting back who gets to the edge quickly and turns the corner before the LBs and Safetys can come up or get to the sideline.

Used properly, he should still have 1,000 yard/ 5.x y/c seasons in him with multiple home runs throughout the year.

The Jets SHOULD be a good fit, because Decker & Hill are very good downfield blockers who can spring a scatback through the second level and get him deep more often.
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Posted: 6/7/2014 9:05 AM

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HYATT wrote: The problem has been that CJ2k is a "finesse" back, not a "power" back, but TEN insisted on treating him like a "power" back and working him where they never should have & he wore down a bit as the seasons progressed.
He was, therefore, not as effective as he could have been as a strictly "weapon"  type of quick-hitting back who gets to the edge quickly and turns the corner before the LBs and Safetys can come up or get to the sideline.

Used properly, he should still have 1,000 yard/ 5.x y/c seasons in him with multiple home runs throughout the year.

The Jets SHOULD be a good fit, because Decker & Hill are very good downfield blockers who can spring a scatback through the second level and get him deep more often.
Which category did you vote, 2 or 3?
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Posted: 6/7/2014 2:47 PM

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Not sure he can be a feature back anymore. If used properly, and that's 10-15 carries per, he can be very productive.
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Posted: 6/7/2014 5:00 PM

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Jetman55 wrote: I kind of think it may be a split of the top 2.  I think he'll start, catch a lot of passes, but split carries with ivory.  I think he's going to surprise people with how much he has left in the tank, and be used like McCoy with the Eagles.  He wont be as productive as McCoy, but he has the wiggle, and drive to be very good in a similar capacity.  I think Ivory will eaither get banged up, as he always does, and more and more of the workload will shift to CJ2K.  I could see him getting 1,200-1,500 yards and Ivory getting 400-600 and CJ2K getting a shot at the pro bowl if he leads us to the play-offs and shows glimpses of his old form.  

I still think he's a special back and in a better system for his skill sets than he was with the Titans.  While PFF ranks us as the 23rd in the league in talent; if that's the case, the Titans have to be 28-30th.
McCoy is a great basis of comparison... think you're spot on. 

I definitely think Johnson could make a huge difference this season, especially if we're looking to play a more run-centric, conservative brand of football.
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Posted: 6/8/2014 9:31 PM

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DAitken wrote:
Jetman55 wrote: I kind of think it may be a split of the top 2.  I think he'll start, catch a lot of passes, but split carries with ivory.  I think he's going to surprise people with how much he has left in the tank, and be used like McCoy with the Eagles.  He wont be as productive as McCoy, but he has the wiggle, and drive to be very good in a similar capacity.  I think Ivory will eaither get banged up, as he always does, and more and more of the workload will shift to CJ2K.  I could see him getting 1,200-1,500 yards and Ivory getting 400-600 and CJ2K getting a shot at the pro bowl if he leads us to the play-offs and shows glimpses of his old form.  

I still think he's a special back and in a better system for his skill sets than he was with the Titans.  While PFF ranks us as the 23rd in the league in talent; if that's the case, the Titans have to be 28-30th.
McCoy is a great basis of comparison... think you're spot on. 

I definitely think Johnson could make a huge difference this season, especially if we're looking to play a more run-centric, conservative brand of football.
I agree with what both you are saying but the yardage.  I can't see Johnson running for 1,200 or more yards this or any other year if they are truly gong to split the carries between him and Ivory.  I would say more like 800-1,100 at most for Johnson and 600-900 for Ivory.  You can throw Powell, Goodson and Kerley in there for another 300 yards.  Overall, I see the total rushing game with whichever QB playing and running from time to time aswell over 2,000 yards.  That will help either QB to have a good throwing season aswell.  Now I do see Johnson also catching about 40 or more passes for another 500 or more yards.  I think Johnson will have a overall excellent year and help us get the playoffs but I don't think his stats will be good enough for a pro-bowl bid.

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Posted: 6/9/2014 8:30 AM

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You could argue that CJ2k is the type of back Mornhinweg has needed to run his zone-scheme to perfection. Powell or Ivory just don't have the quickness. Having two WR's and a TE who could block certainly helps. No one here knows if CJ has anything left but if he does I can see 1500 total yards (run and catch). The threat of the screen will also help negate the pass rush which will be a blessing to our QB. Just can't overuse him must keep him fresh (12-15 touches a game).
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Posted: 6/9/2014 11:23 AM

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ncgreen12 wrote: You could argue that CJ2k is the type of back Mornhinweg has needed to run his zone-scheme to perfection. Powell or Ivory just don't have the quickness. Having two WR's and a TE who could block certainly helps. No one here knows if CJ has anything left but if he does I can see 1500 total yards (run and catch). The threat of the screen will also help negate the pass rush which will be a blessing to our QB. Just can't overuse him must keep him fresh (12-15 touches a game).
Agreed!!!  I see Geno having a very good to excellent year because of all the additions.  Johnson does fits this scheme alot better as long as they don't overuse him, 15-18 touches combined a game sounds good.  Powell and Ivory are more power runners but with the addition of Johnson and hopefully a healthy Goodson as our slash runners combined with Ivory and Powell, this will make a great combo of 2000 total rushing between them all.  Plus, add in Geno running from time to time.  I see Johnson catching about 40 or more passes with Decker catching 60-70, Kerley and Amaro catching 40-50, Cumberland and Nelson catching about 30 passes.  Question mark is Hill, if he shows up he can catch about 50-60 himself and open the offense wide open.  If he flops then hopefully one of the rookies steps up.
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Posted: 6/9/2014 2:30 PM

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Jetman55 wrote:
HYATT wrote: The problem has been that CJ2k is a "finesse" back, not a "power" back, but TEN insisted on treating him like a "power" back and working him where they never should have & he wore down a bit as the seasons progressed.
He was, therefore, not as effective as he could have been as a strictly "weapon"  type of quick-hitting back who gets to the edge quickly and turns the corner before the LBs and Safetys can come up or get to the sideline.

Used properly, he should still have 1,000 yard/ 5.x y/c seasons in him with multiple home runs throughout the year.

The Jets SHOULD be a good fit, because Decker & Hill are very good downfield blockers who can spring a scatback through the second level and get him deep more often.
Which category did you vote, 2 or 3?
3.
I can see 15 carries per game, (1,200 yards rushing @ 5+ Y/A average) plus another 4 or 5 passing attempts/3 catches, (500 yards receiving @ 10+ Y/R average.)
CJ2K, no.
CJ1.5K, no problemo.
ANYTHING that keeps the ball out of Geno Smith's hands at this point is a good thing.
I'd be happy as a clam in pig doo-doo with CJ1K.

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Posted: 7/2/2014 11:25 AM

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The expectation is that New York Jets RBs Chris JohnsonChris Ivory, and Bilal Powell will share carries this season in an attempt to keep Johnson fresh for the long haul. Not surprisingly, though, Johnson expects to lead the way as the primary option. 
"Once the season starts and once we're playing and I'm doing my thing, I'm pretty sure if I'm making plays they're going to want to keep handing the ball off to me," Johnson said on NFL Network  Tuesday. "If they want me to continue making plays, I'm pretty sure I can't do that if I'm on the sideline."  ESPN Jets reporter Rich Cimini agrees that if the Jets offense is going to take a significant leap in production this season, CJ will be the key.  "To me -- and if you ask Jets players, they'll tell you the same thing -- the one guy that can make the biggest difference, that can take this Jets offense to a different level is Chris Johnson,"  Cimini said .  "He's got raw speed. And even though his numbers have declined the last few years, you can't teach raw speed. ... The key, of course, is his health; surgically repaired knee, didn't do anything in minicamp but should be ready for training camp."  Johnson granted that he may be eased in gradually during training camp and that he isn't quite full strength.  "I wouldn't label myself at 100 percent, but very close," he said. "In the 90s."  The running back has never missed a game due to injury as a pro, so his health likely won't be a long-term concern. However, he will turn 29 in September and his YPC has bounced around the past few seasons, which means questions remain about what he has to offer the Jets this season. To his credit, though, Johnson has racked up more than 1,000 rushing yards every year as a pro.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 11:57 AM

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I love a player with a huge chip on his shoulder, like Ivory last season. CJ feels totally disrespected & lied to, on how the Titans treated him. If 100% healthy, I expect some great exciting things from CJ this year.

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Posted: 7/3/2014 4:43 PM

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Chris Johnson and Ivory will share the load. To me this means Johnson won't have a pro bowl type season but a very productive one to help the team to the playoffs. I see him getting 13-20 combined touches a game and Ivory getting 10-15 combined touches. Johnson will probably end the season with 40 + catches for 500-700 yards and a couple of TDs and 160-190 carries for 700-1000 yards and a couple of TDs.

Note: Johnson falls into that frame of mind that LT did when we first got him. LT and Greene were supposed to be sharing the load to keep LT fresh for the playoffs but it didn't turn out way because Greene was pretty much a bust. Won't be that way this time, Ivory can hold his own and will do so. That will take the pressure and touches off Johnson.

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Posted: 7/4/2014 7:44 AM

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It will all depend on the health of his knees, his ability to pick up the offense, his blitz pickup, and whether he can flash early in the season. If CJ gets off to a slow start-his reps will diminish and he won't get the touches. To my eyes it's all about the first 4 games of the season. How he does in those games will determine his role for the season.
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Posted: 7/4/2014 11:36 AM

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Not on my Watch    

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Posted: 7/4/2014 11:43 AM

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Also, from the previous link, I have no idea how Cimini can compare Ivory and Greene. Ivory had 8 runs of 20+ yards last year.  Greene had 7 runs of 20+ yards from 2010-2012.  Ivory is much more explosive.
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Posted: 7/5/2014 11:00 AM

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The Jets are getting CJ the last few years of his peak years. Sort of like LT a few years ago. I expect Marty to devise some great game plans around him. CJ is gonna have a big year. And having Ivory spell him will lighten the pounding and workload.
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Posted: 7/5/2014 12:10 PM

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Agree and I also believe Powell will be in the mix too.
jets82 wrote: Chris Johnson and Ivory will share the load. To me this means Johnson won't have a pro bowl type season but a very productive one to help the team to the playoffs. I see him getting 13-20 combined touches a game and Ivory getting 10-15 combined touches. Johnson will probably end the season with 40 + catches for 500-700 yards and a couple of TDs and 160-190 carries for 700-1000 yards and a couple of TDs.

Note: Johnson falls into that frame of mind that LT did when we first got him. LT and Greene were supposed to be sharing the load to keep LT fresh for the playoffs but it didn't turn out way because Greene was pretty much a bust. Won't be that way this time, Ivory can hold his own and will do so. That will take the pressure and touches off Johnson.
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Posted: 7/5/2014 1:50 PM

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Posted: 7/5/2014 2:03 PM

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