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Revis already talking about life after the Patriots...

Posted: 5/31/2014 10:13 AM

Revis already talking about life after the Patriots... 


“I’m on my career and my journey, and right now, I’m a New England Patriot,” Revis said after taking part in a voluntary on-field workout at Gillette Stadium. “And that’s that.”

The words “right now” were telling, because logic — and the salary cap — dictates the $20 million team option for 2015 in Revis’ deal means this will be the All-Pro cornerback’s lone season in a Patriots uniform.

http://nypost.com/2014/05/30/d...or-new-england/

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Posted: 5/31/2014 10:23 AM

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He's just waiting for the Peterson deal to get done so he can tell his agents which deal he likes best(Sherman, Haden, Peterson) and makes sure to top it.
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Posted: 5/31/2014 10:34 AM

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football51 wrote: He's just waiting for the Peterson deal to get done so he can tell his agents which deal he likes best(Sherman, Haden, Peterson) and makes sure to top it.
As this relates to the Jets...I think Milliner is going to be this good before long.  I think in December we saw what 4.37, 6.0, and 32 inch arms (same as Patrick Peterson) can impact a game.  If he continues to play like that, which we all hope for, he's going to be in this conversation quickly.
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Posted: 5/31/2014 10:43 AM

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Jetman55 wrote:
football51 wrote: He's just waiting for the Peterson deal to get done so he can tell his agents which deal he likes best(Sherman, Haden, Peterson) and makes sure to top it.
As this relates to the Jets...I think Milliner is going to be this good before long.  I think in December we saw what 4.37, 6.0, and 32 inch arms (same as Patrick Peterson) can impact a game.  If he continues to play like that, which we all hope for, he's going to be in this conversation quickly.
Let's hope he doesn't have a crazy uncle crazy.
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Posted: 5/31/2014 11:55 AM

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That crazy uncle sure did get Revis paid though didn't he....

Providing it doesn't blow up in his face because he gets injured, he's in a prime position to get paid again in 2015.

So regardless of whether you agree or disagree with Revis and his negotiation tactics, it seems to have worked well for him up until this point.






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Posted: 5/31/2014 12:00 PM

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broadwayjoe2 wrote: That crazy uncle sure did get Revis paid though didn't he....

Providing it doesn't blow up in his face because he gets injured, he's in a prime position to get paid again in 2015.

So regardless of whether you agree or disagree with Revis and his negotiation tactics, it seems to have worked well for him up until this point.
Yup.......... he's becoming a mercenary. The thing is, he was offered a 10 year deal in 2010 for $12-$13 mil per and $40 guaranteed, but balked because the Jets could only guarantee for injury or skill because of the labor dispute. He could've gotten the big deal before any of these cb's, but he was obsessed with a $16 mil price tag. Good for him..... he's a fantastic player.......... I'm happy that the distractions that he caused on a regular basis over money are gone and that Sheldon Richardson is here.
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Posted: 5/31/2014 12:09 PM

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The thing is, despite him turning down the 10 year deal, he still looks like he will come out further ahead considering the expected huge increase in cap space in the next couple of years. If he takes that deal from the Jets we were likely screwed anyway, the minute Sherman and Peterson signed their deals, because he'd be holding out yet again.

The only error I can see that he has made so far is not at least getting a few million guaranteed on his TB deal.... As they likely would have still cut bait with him if 5 or 6 million was owed due to a signing bonus. It wouldn't have hamstrung them financially and they would have ate it.

If his lone goal is to maximize his earnings in his prime.... He has done a fantastic job of it.


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broadwayjoe2 wrote: That crazy uncle sure did get Revis paid though didn't he....

Providing it doesn't blow up in his face because he gets injured, he's in a prime position to get paid again in 2015.

So regardless of whether you agree or disagree with Revis and his negotiation tactics, it seems to have worked well for him up until this point.
Yup.......... he's becoming a mercenary. The thing is, he was offered a 10 year deal in 2010 for $12-$13 mil per and $40 guaranteed, but balked because the Jets could only guarantee for injury or skill because of the labor dispute. He could've gotten the big deal before any of these cb's, but he was obsessed with a $16 mil price tag. Good for him..... he's a fantastic player.......... I'm happy that the distractions that he caused on a regular basis over money are gone and that Sheldon Richardson is here.

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Posted: 5/31/2014 12:20 PM

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He's going to be 30 years old next year. His Mangini years and Tampa season are nothing like how he performed in Ryan's defense. There was no "Revis Island" before 2009. Also, looking back, 2009 was an abberation. Revis never dupicated that season even in Ryan's defense. I'm not sure what contract he can expect next year. Haden/Sherman/Peterson are all much younger when they got their payday.  It'll be interesting to see Revis in Belichick's defense. I've seen one season(2009) where he's worth $16 mil, and the rest between $10-$12 mil. He could've been the face of this franchise for a dozen years, played in the ideal system to display his skills, and still would've earned a ton of money. I think he traded his legacy for a few million.
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Posted: 5/31/2014 12:31 PM

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I think that's where you and Revis differ..... I don't think he gives a damn about any legacy. If he plays at a high level 3 or so more years, he's likely a HOFer. He's approached playing football in a completely unsentimental way.... Like a businessman on a mission.

As a Jets fan, I don't like him.... However considering the way the NFL has decided to structure their contacts, and that the teams cut players ruthlessly.... How could I logically argue against him treating the NFL contract process the exact same way as his employers do?

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He's going to be 30 years old next year. His Mangini years and Tampa season are nothing like how he performed in Ryan's defense. There was no "Revis Island" before 2009. Also, looking back, 2009 was an abberation. Revis never dupicated that season even in Ryan's defense. I'm not sure what contract he can expect next year. Haden/Sherman/Peterson are all much younger when they got their payday.  It'll be interesting to see Revis in Belichick's defense. I've seen one season(2009) where he's worth $16 mil, and the rest between $10-$12 mil. He could've been the face of this franchise for a dozen years, played in the ideal system to display his skills, and still would've earned a ton of money. I think he traded his legacy for a few million.

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Posted: 5/31/2014 12:39 PM

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I guess, but I always used to view Revis as a Curtis Martin/Peyton Manning/Ray Lewis type. I never saw them handle their contracts like that. They dealt with the same system Revis is dealing with. I lost repect for him when he faked injury during the 2010 minicamp. The public threats toward the organization. Using the beat writers to carry out his message for him. At that point, he went from Curtis Martin to Pete Kendall in my eyes.
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Posted: 5/31/2014 2:40 PM

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football51 wrote: I guess, but I always used to view Revis as a Curtis Martin/Peyton Manning/Ray Lewis type. I never saw them handle their contracts like that. They dealt with the same system Revis is dealing with. I lost repect for him when he faked injury during the 2010 minicamp. The public threats toward the organization. Using the beat writers to carry out his message for him. At that point, he went from Curtis Martin to Pete Kendall in my eyes.
....Well, he's closer to Sanders when he used to put the 9ers and cowboys in an annual bidding war for him until eventually the Skins jumped in.  disbelief  I'm not sure it tarnished his legacy too much...

We're Atlanta in the equation, which is fine.  We got more for Revis than Atl ever got for Deion.
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Posted: 5/31/2014 2:48 PM

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I really think Revis is making a miscalculation here. When you are on the rise, on the ascendency, seeking short-term deals to play the market is fine. But he is now in his prime, and perhaps even on the downward trend, especially with a bad knee. He should have sought out a long-term deal that offered security.

If he has a decent year, but below his standards, he is going to cost himself a lot of money on the market.

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Posted: 5/31/2014 3:00 PM

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Here's Revis' #1 fanboy chiming in.





Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN 2h
24=Best in the biz RT @jeffphowe From @kguregian: Brady/Mallett didn't throw a pass in Revis' direction yesterday bostonherald.com/sports/patriot…
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Posted: 5/31/2014 3:06 PM

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football51 wrote: Here's Revis' #1 fanboy chiming in.





Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN 2h
24=Best in the biz RT @jeffphowe From @kguregian: Brady/Mallett didn't throw a pass in Revis' direction yesterday bostonherald.com/sports/patriot…
Hahahaha, really?  If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best.  Sanchez used to challenge him, but Brady doesn't?  Hahaha, that explains a lot about Brady.  crazy  I also think it's the NE papers building up the legend...much like Rex does with every new player on the team (Ducass reminds me a lot of Larry Allen...Revis was so good even teh great Tom Brady was scared to throw his way...sound familiar?!?!?!  pathetic).
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Posted: 5/31/2014 3:10 PM

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For Brady to throw to Revis, it would require Captain Checkdown to throw the ball down the field. That is completely against the philosophy of the past decade.

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Posted: 5/31/2014 3:15 PM

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SackExchange wrote: For Brady to throw to Revis, it would require Captain Checkdown to throw the ball down the field. That is completely against the philosophy of the past decade.

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Posted: 5/31/2014 3:19 PM

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football51 wrote:
SackExchange wrote: For Brady to throw to Revis, it would require Captain Checkdown to throw the ball down the field. That is completely against the philosophy of the past decade.

And next time he throws a check down, his receiver will see:

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Posted: 5/31/2014 3:42 PM

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That's part of what makes it such a good pick. When a division rival's offense is based almost entirely on the short passing game to TEs and slot WRs, having a big-hitting safety takes away that game.

Not that you pick a guy based on one opponent, but in this copycat league, a lot of teams are following the NE formula.

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Posted: 5/31/2014 3:46 PM

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SackExchange wrote: That's part of what makes it such a good pick. When a division rival's offense is based almost entirely on the short passing game to TEs and slot WRs, having a big-hitting safety takes away that game.

Not that you pick a guy based on one opponent, but in this copycat league, a lot of teams are following the NE formula.
You don't think the Patriots drafted two TEs and transitioned from Welker and Moss to Welker and Edelman to counter Cro and Revis?  I think they did...
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Posted: 5/31/2014 3:48 PM

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Jetman55 wrote:

You don't think the Patriots drafted two TEs and transitioned from Welker and Moss to Welker and Edelman to counter Cro and Revis?  I think they did...
Oh, I am sure it had some influence on their decision. And I do think Belichick is irrational in his hatred of the Jets.

Do I think the Jets' secondary was the sole reason behind that? No. But I could definitely see it as a factor.

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