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Trade up, move back or stay put?

Posted: 4/21/2014 8:40 PM

Trade up, move back or stay put? 


Kind of a wild guess at this point due to not knowing who's on the board etc but as of right now, would you all rather see us trade up, move back or stay put? The way I look at it, with the Jets having more draft picks of any team there has never been a bettee year to trade up, than this years up coming draft. I'm not saying to sell the farm (draft pick wise) but if a situation occurs such as Ebron falling to 18. With a boat load of draft picks we could completely re~vamp our offense when compared to last year. For example if Ebron falls to 18, you take him as an explosive pass catching TE who's the highest rated pass catching TE coming out since Vernon Davis. Broke his ACC records as well. Then, after landing Ebron, trade right back up into the 1st round in order to draft Cooks in order to form a trio of receivers in Decker, Cooks and Kerley. Then we could focus the remainder of our draft on CB, Safety, O~Line, OLB and BPA. I just love the sound of surrounding our QB position, regardless of Geno or Vick with a thunder and lightning duo of Ivory and Johnson out of the backfield, Decker and Cooks on the outside, Kerley coming out of the slot with Ebron working the middle of the field. Would become our strongest/most talented offense dating back to 1998. With our defense being led by our front 7 along with coach Ryan I believe with that offensive attack we're instant AFC contenders. Along with added depth in Powell, Nelson, Hill and Cumberland. If Ebron falls to 18 this situation is very possible ala trading back up into the 1st round in order to draft one of the nation's top 3~5 receivers in order to pair opposite of Decker due to having more draft picks of any other team. Followed by using the remainder of our picks on CB, Safety, O~Line and OLB. Thoughts?
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Posted: 4/21/2014 9:29 PM

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Stay put. We're in a great position to just sit where we are and get a high value player at a position of need - either WR, CB, S, TE, or even edge rusher.
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Posted: 4/21/2014 9:49 PM

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Move back in First round .... we may be able to get an additional Second rounder
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Posted: 4/21/2014 10:09 PM

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As much as they love to backslap the Pats for acquiring a million picks every year... I think that strategy hasn't been all the effective.

I'd rather jump a spot or two up if needed to get our guy, rather than trading back and hoping for the best.






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Posted: 4/21/2014 10:25 PM

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NYJDraftKing wrote: Move back in First round .... we may be able to get an additional Second rounder
We all have our own view points but I don't agree with this type of thinking. We already have the most draft picks of any team, so I don't see the point of passing up, for example, say... An Ebron who's the highest rated pass catching TE coming out dating back to Vernon Davis (just to land another 2nd rounder).
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Posted: 4/21/2014 11:07 PM

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DefenseWinsChampionships1985 wrote:
NYJDraftKing wrote: Move back in First round .... we may be able to get an additional Second rounder
We all have our own view points but I don't agree with this type of thinking. We already have the most draft picks of any team, so I don't see the point of passing up, for example, say... An Ebron who's the highest rated pass catching TE coming out dating back to Vernon Davis (just to land another 2nd rounder).
A lot of the strategy will depend on who is out there.  Ebron still there.... stay put and grab him.  If he is gone but Dennard is still there... grab him.  If both gone.... trade back 4 or 5 spots and maybe look at cooks or beckham or fuller.... one of them should last till 22
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Posted: 4/22/2014 1:45 AM

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This really depends in what your scouts are saying. Had we not moved up we'd never gotten Revis.. I know you could list many times moving up didn't help.. But like I said, if you trust your scouts, and your coach.. And there is a perfect fit blue chip superstar in range.. You make the move!

There is a part of me that thinks a move up for The top WR on their board is not out of the question for the Jets. Then a top OL prospect!
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Posted: 4/22/2014 6:49 AM

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Stay put in the first.

I wouldn't mind trading up in the second. Usually some really good prospects come off the board early.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 8:18 AM

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Wouldn't be shocked if Ebron and Dennard are off the board by 12, and I don't feel Idzik will part with our 2nd rd pick to move in that area. I, personally, don't feel The players we target at 18 and 28 are honestly that much different if those 2 are off the board when it comes to WRs and CBs...so I'd move back and grab a few 2015 picks. Wouldn't mid looking at next spring with $60 mill in cap space and 8-9 picks again...
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Posted: 4/22/2014 8:29 AM

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speaking of 2015 picks, what are our chances of adding a compensatory pick or two? Do signings of Vick and Decker counter Cro and Howard?
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Posted: 4/22/2014 8:34 AM

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I somewhat agree with Jetman55 and trade back a few spots or more and acquire an additional 2nd Rd pick. I believe us and 3 other teams have 12 picks which I think is the max you are allowed in one draft yr. So we would have to throw in an additional pick if we trade out of #1 for a later #1 & #2. Correct me if I am wrong on the number of picks we are allowed.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 9:21 AM

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jgrote wrote: speaking of 2015 picks, what are our chances of adding a compensatory pick or two? Do signings of Vick and Decker counter Cro and Howard?


I doubt we will get much in terms of comp picks next year.  I do note that Vick and Cro don't count towards comp picks as they were cut by their respective teams (same is the case with Chris Johnson).  but the big contract we gave Decker will negate the loss of Howard.  and I'm not sure we lost anyone else noteworthy that would be worth more than a token 7th rounder comp pick.  plus we also signed Giacomini and Patterson, who I believe were both free agents rather than players cut.  so I don't think the "comp pick" strategy Idzik utilized last year will be effective this year.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 9:26 AM

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For what it is worth here what I think trade up to get Dennard if not too expensive
Tke kid is going to be the next great shutdown corner in this league.
If too expensive or can't find a partner stay at 18 grab the top guy available on your board.
I think this draft is going to be crazy because one of these qb's Manziel, Bortles, or Bridgewater are going to drop like rock.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 9:43 AM

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It all depends on how the draft plays out. If we are sitting at 18, and there are 3/4 guys we still really like, I'd move back a few picks. I'd also move up a few if someone we covet falls.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 10:40 AM

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Stay put on the 1st pick period!!!  After that, all depends on who is available at #18 as you said and who is available to trade up to consider it.  If Ebron or Evans (which I think will be a pipe dream for either player) is available at #18, then draft either one.  Then maybe trading up won't be so bad to get another premiere playmaker in the first round.  Then again, getting one of these players and trading back to get more picks won't be so bad either.  I will say right now, stay put with all our picks and pick wisely, we should be good from that point on. Having 12 picks is a beautiful thing and picking wisely will help us get a Super Bowl HOPEFULLY in 1-2 years, so trading up or down will most likely be un-nessecary.

J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets!!!

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Posted: 4/22/2014 10:56 AM

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I'd be happy to stay at 18 and take the best player at WR, TE or CB. However, if there's a guy at the aforementioned position we need in round two or three and trading up secures them I'd say do it. We should be able to leverage the addition of 4 comp picks to trade our own if necessary. The difference with Tanny was he didn't have any picks in the bullpen and we'd end of drafting only three players.  Got to balance getting top end talent but having quality depth.

BTW - I don't think I ever heard of a maximum amount a team could have in picks for one year. I believe the only maximum is compensation picks at 4.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 11:13 AM

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Cro wont count..he was released..in fact for a Gm that was supposed to be asleep at wheel..we signed Breno, Decker, Patterson, Ford,  Vick   (Johnson released doesnt count)

no way we get comp pick next year..,..
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Posted: 4/22/2014 11:21 AM

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Everyone wants to trade back..as I do..but its not as easy as people think, especially if you want fair value...if the Jets like 6 guys at 18 and want to move down knowing they will get one, maybe they take a 3rd or 4th rounder to move down..our best bet is if the QB's are on board..especially if Cleveland didnt select one first..moving back to 26 for another 3rd would be good (Cleve has 2 thirds)
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Posted: 4/22/2014 12:04 PM

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While anxiously waiting for almost a year for this years draft, I will crap my pants, if Goodell goes to the podium and announces the Jets have traded their 18th pick !banghead

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Posted: 4/22/2014 12:20 PM

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cysporsche wrote: While anxiously waiting for almost a year for this years draft, I will crap my pants, if Goodell goes to the podium and announces the Jets have traded their 18th pick !banghead

Go Jets...Cyborg
Would you move down to 30 for SF's first second round pick..#56..then we would have 30, 49, 56, in first 2 rounds...I prob would
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