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Posted: 4/20/2014 9:35 AM

Both Kiper and McShay now have us drafting... 


Brandin Cooks (WR, Oregon State)  and ASJ (TE, Washington) in rounds 1 and 2, respectively.  I think we would all be doing cartwheels on this site if it played out that way.

You're looking at an offense that has added:

-Eric Decker (WR)
-Brandin Cooks (WR)
-Jacoby Ford (WR)
-Chris Johnson (RB)
-Austin Seferian-Jenkins (TE)

3 of those 5 players listed above have run 4.3 or better at some point in their career. Decker is a fringe pro-bowler and ASJ is a vertical threat from the TE spot.

The Jets offense was the most devoid of speed of any team in the league last year.  Idzik is changing that in an awful hurry.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 9:41 AM

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Brandin Cooks (WR, Oregon State)  and ASJ (TE, Washington) in rounds 1 and 2, respectively.  I think we would all be doing cartwheels on this site if it played out that way.

You're looking at an offense that has added:

-Eric Decker (WR)
-Brandin Cooks (WR)
-Jacoby Ford (WR)
-Chris Johnson (RB)
-Austin Seferian-Jenkins (TE)

3 of those 5 players listed above have run 4.3 or better at some point in their career. Decker is a fringe pro-bowler and ASJ is a vertical threat from the TE spot.

The Jets offense was the most devoid of speed of any team in the league last year.  Idzik is changing that in an awful hurry.

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That wouldnbe fine. But I actually like Amaro better. He fits Jets scheme better where the Te has to block. Ask. Doesn't block as well
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Posted: 4/20/2014 9:42 AM

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That's a very realistic scenario that would make a ton of sense for the Jets. I'd be very happy with it, as most Jets fans probably would be

Of course, the draft has a way of taking strange twists and turns!
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Posted: 4/20/2014 9:51 AM

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Brandin Cooks (WR, Oregon State)  and ASJ (TE, Washington) in rounds 1 and 2, respectively.  I think we would all be doing cartwheels on this site if it played out that way.

You're looking at an offense that has added:

-Eric Decker (WR)
-Brandin Cooks (WR)
-Jacoby Ford (WR)
-Chris Johnson (RB)
-Austin Seferian-Jenkins (TE)

3 of those 5 players listed above have run 4.3 or better at some point in their career. Decker is a fringe pro-bowler and ASJ is a vertical threat from the TE spot.

The Jets offense was the most devoid of speed of any team in the league last year.  Idzik is changing that in an awful hurry.

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I'd love these picks. But as Sarge said, expect to be surprised. I'm thinking Idzik's going to take someone none of us are even talking about, ie Sheldon Richardson last year.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 9:56 AM

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Cooks and Amaro would be my dream scenario. Jenkins isn't a bad consolation though and I wouldn't mind Dennard in the first as well.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 10:08 AM

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BlindsideBrick wrote:


I'd love these picks. But as Sarge said, expect to be surprised. I'm thinking Idzik's going to take someone none of us are even talking about, ie Sheldon Richardson last year.
Idzik has this reputation of being so unpredictable but I don't think that is the reality.

Last year most mocks had us taking Milliner at #9 and that is exactly what we did.  At #13 the player that we were most commonly tied to was Tavon Austin, who Idzik was going to take until St Louis traded up and stole him from us.

Sheldon Richardson was a plan B, granted one that none of us saw coming.  Still, I think Idzik's unpredictability is overblown considering his plan last year was to draft the two players most readily connected to us in mocks.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 10:26 AM

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Beckham, Jenkins and Campanaro in the 5th would be a pretty solid freshman group for the offense. I believe we need a solid backup slot guy because Kerley has a tendency to get dinged up, and Campanaro would be a real asset there. The key is value and not to draft him too early. Won't be disappointed with Cooks, but maybe Beckham is a more complimentary WR for Decker? Also think JAmaro appears to be a better vertical threat, but ASJ is a better blocker and red zone guy. 3rd and 4th rounders should be spent on defense and OL. IMHO that is.

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Posted: 4/20/2014 10:59 AM

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I am high on Cooks, but think CB would be a top priority in the 2nd. Of course you never know as "Best Player Available".
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Posted: 4/20/2014 11:01 AM

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I want a big TE that scores TD's and Jenkins fits plus Cumberland has shown he can make plays downfield. Cooks seems to have a higher ceiling than Beckham in terms of big explosive plays, and is faster.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 11:47 AM

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Lakerfan1980 wrote: I want a big TE that scores TD's and Jenkins fits plus Cumberland has shown he can make plays downfield. Cooks seems to have a higher ceiling than Beckham in terms of big explosive plays, and is faster.
Either way, we get better.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 11:50 AM

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I would absolutely take those two.

I know some are saying CB, but:

1. Milliner looks to be developing into a #1,
2. Patterson's presence makes it less of a need, and
3. A solid pass rush limits the need of a top secondary.

I would not complain about Dennard, by any stretch, but I'd consider going WR/TE in the first two picks, and then looking CB.

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Posted: 4/20/2014 11:58 AM

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Jgrote brings up a good point that Beckham , Lee, etc, may be a better compliment to Decker out wide, while Cooks may be more of a fit in the slot where we already have Kerley. With that said, I wonder if Idzik is hoping Stephen Hill or Dwight Jones or David Nelson emerges as that 2nd true wideout. We do have some options on the roster there that we tend to forget about. I would be surprised if the organization is ready to give up on Hill after only 2 years.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 12:03 PM

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I would absolutely take those two.

I know some are saying CB, but:

1. Milliner looks to be developing into a #1,
2. Patterson's presence makes it less of a need, and
3. A solid pass rush limits the need of a top secondary.

I would not complain about Dennard, by any stretch, but I'd consider going WR/TE in the first two picks, and then looking CB.

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Good post. I know some have the thinking that since it's a deep draft at WR, we should wait and take one later to take advantage of the depth. I say let's evaluate these guys and take the best of the lot at #18 (sans Sammie of course). Let's look to grab the creme of the crop of a banner year at WR. Make a splash and grab what we think is a game-changer. We may only need one really good WR in thid draft with Kerley and Decker already established.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 1:54 PM

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I would absolutely take those two.

I know some are saying CB, but:

1. Milliner looks to be developing into a #1,
2. Patterson's presence makes it less of a need, and
3. A solid pass rush limits the need of a top secondary.

I would not complain about Dennard, by any stretch, but I'd consider going WR/TE in the first two picks, and then looking CB.

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Good post. I know some have the thinking that since it's a deep draft at WR, we should wait and take one later to take advantage of the depth. I say let's evaluate these guys and take the best of the lot at #18 (sans Sammie of course). Let's look to grab the creme of the crop of a banner year at WR. Make a splash and grab what we think is a game-changer. We may only need one really good WR in thid draft with Kerley and Decker already established.

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That's what I'm thinking, too. Don't let all the best WR's fall off the board and gamble on finding one later. It's too big of a need.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 2:07 PM

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Eric Allen the spokesman of the Jets (NY Jets.com & Facebook), has picked Eric Ebron TE with our 18th pick in the ESPN Mock Draft show.

I am just not 100% sold on Cooks. I don't think he is a true WR, but more of a slot receiver. I prefer Beckham (after Ebron) over Cooks, then Lee.

Go Jets...Cyborg
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Posted: 4/20/2014 2:10 PM

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I have always believed in Defense, Defense and more Defense. This year is the year of the WR. I too would not like to wait till the 3rd or 4th Rd to grab one. I like Cooks and feel if he is still there at 18 the Jets should jump all over him. 2nd Rd, I would not mind Roby but feel that he will be long gone. I would not mind a strong pass catching TE. I do like Rex and he can work wonders with a Defense. This year I would love to load up on as many offensive players as possible to include RB's, OL, & WR's. Still we do need DB's and a rushing OLB maybe picking depth or development players in the 5th, 6th & 7th Rds.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 2:10 PM

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cysporsche wrote: Eric Allen the spokesman of the Jets (NY Jets.com & Facebook), has picked Eric Ebron TE with our 18th pick in the ESPN Mock Draft show.

I am just not 100% sold on Cooks. I don't think he is a true WR, but more of a slot receiver. I prefer Beckham (after Ebron) over Cooks, then Lee.

Go Jets...Cyborg
If Ebron is still sitting there, you take him. There are some good TEs, but far more top WRs who will likely be available in the middle of the second round.

I'm just not sure Ebron makes it that far down.

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Posted: 4/20/2014 2:43 PM

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If Jets are looking for speed and big plays then Cooks is their man. Kerley, although solid, shouldn't be a reason the Jets don't upgrade a position. I've seen several of Kerley's catches that I wish we he were faster and more explosive. Cooks hands and route running make him a legit receiver and not just speed. I'd draft Cooks and fill the spot opposite Decker with a stop gap FA, maybe Nelson, maybe Hill surprises.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 3:05 PM

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Lakerfan1980 wrote: If Jets are looking for speed and big plays then Cooks is their man. Kerley, although solid, shouldn't be a reason the Jets don't upgrade a position. I've seen several of Kerley's catches that I wish we he were faster and more explosive. Cooks hands and route running make him a legit receiver and not just speed. I'd draft Cooks and fill the spot opposite Decker with a stop gap FA, maybe Nelson, maybe Hill surprises.
I agree with this too.  Kerley is a nice player but he is far from explosive.  I don't think he scares defenses. So it's not out of the question to upgrade there if Idzik is drafting by the B.A.P. approach.

My preference is still to go Lee, Allen Robinson, or even Kelvin Benjamin in round 1, and then Campanaro in round 4.  But if Cooks is the pick, I will still be very happy.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 3:58 PM

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Cooks is more so a Steve Smith than a Kerley from what I have heard.  Kerley has the elusiveness and quickness of a slot but not the deep speed to be an outside guy.  Cooks does.
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