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OT: John Harbaugh: best head coach in the NFL?

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Posted: 2/3/2013 10:49 PM

OT: John Harbaugh: best head coach in the NFL? 


2008-present
Four seasons with 10 or more wins
Five straight playoff appearances
Three AFC Championship game appearances
SB XLVII champion

I think he also has a winning record against Belichick. I could be wrong. Anyway, I'm leaning towards "yes."

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Posted: 2/3/2013 10:57 PM

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Jim Harbaugh is a better coach than his brother!!!
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Posted: 2/3/2013 11:15 PM

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He was certainly helped out by two of the worst non calls in a Super Bowl. On 3rd down a clear helmet to helmet hit on defenseless receiver. On 4th down a clear hold in the endzone. I won't mention the clear hold on the punt since that ha no effect on the outcome.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 12:28 AM

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It was a great game, the players played hard on both sides. I think the amount of contact allowed was fair. If anyone was to complain I'd think it would be the ravens. They have an older team, and the 30 min power outage stole their momentum, and was much harder on their players (age).. Who doesn't believe the 30 min delay helped kaepernik loose the deer in headlight look, and calm down.. Overall I thought the ravens clearly earned the win!
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Posted: 2/4/2013 1:42 AM

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He is a good coach, I think his brother did a slightly better job assembling his team from scratch though and building them up from AFC West Fodder into a Championship team and a superbowl contender the next season. John inherited that Defense headed up by 2 HOFer's Ray Lewis and Ed Reed.. All harbaugh had to do was fix the offense and even that wasn't a sure thing till he fired Cam Cameron.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 3:14 AM

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Gonzorot wrote: He is a good coach, I think his brother did a slightly better job assembling his team from scratch though and building them up from AFC West Fodder into a Championship team and a superbowl contender the next season. John inherited that Defense headed up by 2 HOFer's Ray Lewis and Ed Reed.. All harbaugh had to do was fix the offense and even that wasn't a sure thing till he fired Cam Cameron.
Jim didn't assemble the 49ers from scratch, he inherited most of the best players from HCs Mike Nolan &, Mike Singletary & GMs Scot McCloughan (2000-2010) & Trent John Baalke (2011-) drafting players or signing Free Agents.

More importantly the core of the OL - except for OC Goodwin and backup OG Leonard Davis - were already there before he arrived.

8 of the 32 Harbaugh era acquisitions are current starters - which is a pretty small number actually able to be credited to him.

These players were recruited since Jim Harbaugh became HC.
BLUE denotes starters.
RED denotes I-R players.

2011 (16)
DRAFT PICKS
*- LB-Aldon Smith (1st Rd)
*- QB-Colin Kaepernick (2nd Rd)
*- CB-Chris Culliver (3rd Rd)
RB-Kendall Hunter (4th Rd) on I-R
C-Daniel Kilgore (5th Rd)
*- FB-Bruce Miller (7th Rd)

NCAA FREE AGENTS (UDFAs)
TE-Demarcus Dobbs (Jul) on I-R
DT-Ian Williams (Jul)
LB-Michael Wilhoite (Dec)

STREET FREE AGENTS
LB-Larry Grant (StL/Aug)
LB-Tavares Gooden (Bal/Sep)

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
S-Donte Whitner (Buf/Aug)
*- C-Jonathan Goodwin (NO/Aug)
*- K-David Akers (Phi/Aug)
*- CB-Carlos Rogers (Wsh/Aug)

WAIVERS
QB-Scott Tolzien (SD/Sep)


2012 (16)
DRAFT PICKS
WR-A.J. Jenkins (1st Rd)    
RB-LaMichael James (2nd Rd)  
G-Joe Looney (4th Rd)
LB-Darius Fleming (5th Rd)
S-Trenton Robinson (6th Rd)  
LB-Cam Johnson (7th Rd) 

NCAA FREE AGENTS (UDFAs)
TE-Garrett Celek (May) 
RB-Jewel Hampton (May)
DE-Tony Jerod-Eddie (May)

STREET FREE AGENTS 
CB-Perrish Cox (Den/Mar) 
*- WR-Randy Moss (Ten/Mar)  
G-Leonard Davis (Det/Jul)
S-Darcel McBath (Jax/Jul)
LB-Clark Haggans (Arz/Sep)
WR-Chad Hall (Phi/Nov)

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
WR-Mario Manningham (NYG/Mar)  on I-R
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Posted: 2/4/2013 8:48 AM

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Jim seem to over react a bit too much. At one point I expected him to lie on the ground, kicking his feet with his thumb in his mouth.
I'm thinking dude get a grip crazy take some ritalin or a valium. He's way too high strung and he'll wind up with a heart attack by time he's 50.

 

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Posted: 2/4/2013 10:24 AM

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Only if the Ravens wouldve hired Rex...we possibly couldve had John or Jim Harbaugh

And watch The NFL: A Bad Lip Reading on youtube, there's a very funny part w/ Jim Harbaugh...here's the link:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zce-QT7MGSE
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Posted: 2/4/2013 10:29 AM

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ILDUCE24 wrote: Only if the Ravens wouldve hired Rex...we possibly couldve had John or Jim Harbaugh

And watch The NFL: A Bad Lip Reading on youtube, there's a very funny part w/ Jim Harbaugh...here's the link:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zce-QT7MGSE
LoL... That was all I could think about every time I saw Jim having a fit... "I want some cake"

 

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Posted: 2/4/2013 11:45 AM

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I want cake nooow!
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Posted: 2/4/2013 12:27 PM

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ILDUCE24 wrote: I want cake nooow!
Did you see when Jim ripped his head set off and threw all his paperwork he had in his hands on the field? I cant remember on what play that was after but I just laughed and shook my head. Surprised its not on You Tube yet.

 

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Posted: 2/4/2013 2:06 PM

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NYJetsFan wrote:
ILDUCE24 wrote: I want cake nooow!
Did you see when Jim ripped his head set off and threw all his paperwork he had in his hands on the field? I cant remember on what play that was after but I just laughed and shook my head. Surprised its not on You Tube yet.

I remember that one.  I think it was after the double offsides call.  My favorite was how he was spitting all over himself in regards to the controversial holding call.

They're both good coaches, but it seems as though Jim is more likely to get an unsportsmanlike conduct called against him.  


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Posted: 2/4/2013 3:50 PM

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Lol yeah NYJetsFan I remember that, the Bad Lip Reading video definitely made Harbaugh's antics during the game much funnier
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Posted: 2/4/2013 4:44 PM

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When you have a guy like Flacco putting back shoulder throws exactly where they have to be to a guy like Anquan Boldin, who will out-fight anyone for the ball, it can make a head coach look awfully good. That one play on 3rd down to sustain their drive for that final field goal was just unbelievable. The coverage was right there, with a hand actually between Boldin and the ball, and even though he was 2 feet off the ground, Boldin had the strength to rip that ball away from the cornerback. Amazing throw and reception. Nothing anyone can do about that. Flacco has arrived, he was making ridiculous throws all over the place.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 5:16 PM

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Harbaughs are pretty good.....

No doubt about it.

HOWEVER, as far as John Harbaugh is concerned, I would know how good he is in a year or two. 

Reason being that Baltimore roster is about to turn over. Harbaugh inherited bunch of GOATS on defence and once roster turns over, we will find out how good he is.

I am impressed how they got Torrey Smith and Pitta and developed Flacco......there offense used to be a liability, but now its there strength.....

If they can recover well from roster turn-over then yeah, I believe he is one of the best.
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Posted: 2/4/2013 8:23 PM

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vinluvr wrote: When you have a guy like Flacco putting back shoulder throws exactly where they have to be to a guy like Anquan Boldin, who will out-fight anyone for the ball, it can make a head coach look awfully good. That one play on 3rd down to sustain their drive for that final field goal was just unbelievable. The coverage was right there, with a hand actually between Boldin and the ball, and even though he was 2 feet off the ground, Boldin had the strength to rip that ball away from the cornerback. Amazing throw and reception. Nothing anyone can do about that. Flacco has arrived, he was making ridiculous throws all over the place.
That's true but you can't take credit away from Harbaugh for that (and Flacco is actually pretty mediocre in the reg season, but similar to Eli seems to turn it on in the playoffs)...every coach is only as good as their players
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