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Report: Jets considering replacing Tebow with Denard Robinson

Posted: 1/23/2013 7:56 AM

Report: Jets considering replacing Tebow with Denard Robinson 


This shouldn't surprise anyone...but Jets show the most interest of any team in Denard Robinson (Hobson, what are your thoughts?  This honestly doesn't surprise me at all) -

http://online.wsj.com/article/...=googlenews_wsj

He's closer to Brad Smith than Tebow, IMO, and is closer to what the Jets want to do with these packages.  2 cents anyone.

This also makes the Lee hire make more sense.  Hopefully we don't reach too much for Robinson.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 8:04 AM

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Nothing against Robinson, but this seems like a wasted pick to me.

I don't even know if MM wants to have a significant wildcat package.

If we want to add a few plays as a change of place, I think Kerley would be fine.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 8:53 AM

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If he's there in the 5th round, sign me up for it!
ROLL TIDE!
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Posted: 1/23/2013 9:57 AM

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I kinda doubt this is going to happen unless we have a Charlie Ward type situation, and we can get him as a UDFA. The Senior Bowl practice reports haven't been flattering as far as DR's transition to WR. Athletic - absolutely, but poor hands and expected rawness as a route runner.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 10:07 AM

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if you are drafting denard to just run a handful of wildcat plays, then it is a wasted pick.  he is not an nfl QB.  but that doesn't mean is not an nfl player.  i think he can actually be a percy harvin-type player (or randall cobb as mentioned in the article above). 

he obviously has little experience as a receiver, but he may be the best open field runner in the entire draft.  in the bowl game against south carolina, he played mostly RB and ran 23 times for 100 yards, showing an ability to run between the tackles.  throughout his collegiate career, he's shown breakaway speed and great open field running ability.

where to draft him is a very tricky proposition, since he has virtually no experience as a WR or punt/kick returner.  but he is someone who can make a major impact in the nfl.  he is a tremendous person (one of the most humble superstars (collegiate) you will ever encounter), who has accepted that he will not be an nfl QB and will do whatever is asked of him to help the team.

one coach who i think would absolutely love him in chip kelly in philly.  as to the jets, while there are other needs, we do have a dire need for playmakers and game-changing speed.  someone with his speed and open-field running ability, who can play some RB, WR, wildcat QB and return kicks seems worthy of a 4th round pick.  but i'm obviously biased.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 10:16 AM

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If I'm the Jets and I'm in the market for a dynamic open field runner who also happens to be a WR and KR, I go for Tavon Austin.  We would probably have to invest a 2nd for him though, and I feel we have more pressing needs for that pick.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 10:17 AM

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jgrote wrote: If I'm the Jets and I'm in the market for a dynamic open field runner who also happens to be a WR and KR, I go for Tavon Austin.  We would probably have to invest a 2nd for him though, and I feel we have more pressing needs for that pick.


oh, i agree.  i'd rather austin than denard.  but as you said, you will need to invest a higher pick in him.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 11:07 AM

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If you run the same lame 3 play version of the Wildcat, why waste your time? On the other hand, with Sparano gone, maybe someone with a brain might do something with it.

The formation that works in the NFL is the READ OPTION. The same offense that Tebow ran at Denver, the same one that Russell, RG3, Kaepernick etc ran this season at times.

It is the offense that the Broncos beat the Jets with last season.

But someone told someone that Sparano was the master of the Wlidcat when he did not know what it was, it had to be explained to him.

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Posted: 1/23/2013 11:28 AM

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Honestly, Im over the whole wildcat thing.. 

It was a nice fad while it lasted but setting the team up for the conventional offense should be 1st before drafting players to play gimmick roles IMO  I have heard Robinson has got to improve quickly because he has looked pretty bad this senior bowl in practice (muffed 4 punts and dropped balls) almost to the point where some people think he needs to go to the CFL before he goes to the NFL.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 11:54 AM

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I'm a big Denard fan and I would compare his game to Leon Washington's.  But the notion that he would replace Tebow doesn't seem to make any sense to me.  Kick returner extraordinaire and a dynamic open field runner is more like it.  Fourth round sounds about right.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 12:01 PM

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Personally, I hope the Wildcat is dead. If we want to run it with David Lee as QB Coach, Kerley looked very good to me. Denard Robinson would be a wasted draft pick.

I am not a fan of trying to change a player's position from College to the Pro's. Drafting QB Scott Frost in the 3rd round to change him to safety, was a huge mistake.

Go Jets...Cyborg
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Posted: 1/23/2013 12:05 PM

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cysporsche wrote: Personally, I hope the Wildcat is dead. If we want to run it with David Lee as QB Coach, Kerley looked very good to me. Denard Robinson would be a wasted draft pick.

I am not a fan of trying to change a player's position from College to the Pro's. Drafting QB Scott Frost in the 3rd round to change him to safety, was a huge mistake.

Go Jets...Cyborg
However, the Packers have effectively saved money by drafting Cobb (Qb Kentuckey), converting him to WR, and he has replaced Jennings who will likely be a Dolphin, Panther, Redskin, or Bear in a couple months.  You could say the same for Hines Ward.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 12:17 PM

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Jetman55 wrote:
cysporsche wrote: Personally, I hope the Wildcat is dead. If we want to run it with David Lee as QB Coach, Kerley looked very good to me. Denard Robinson would be a wasted draft pick.

I am not a fan of trying to change a player's position from College to the Pro's. Drafting QB Scott Frost in the 3rd round to change him to safety, was a huge mistake.

Go Jets...Cyborg
However, the Packers have effectively saved money by drafting Cobb (Qb Kentuckey), converting him to WR, and he has replaced Jennings who will likely be a Dolphin, Panther, Redskin, or Bear in a couple months.  You could say the same for Hines Ward.
yeah for every one of those you named which is only one there are a ton of Matt Jones, Brad Smih,Pat White failure QB to WR's... The thing is Denard Robinson has serious fumbling issues and poor hands.. I personally think you could do better then signing a real WR to play WR.. But if you really feel you can skip addressing a hole on the roster to pick a KR/ WR when you already have Joe Mcknight go ahead.

It is not magically cheaper to convert QB's to WR's that is false, Randall Cobb is going to be paid big time once his rookie contract wears out and is not even associated as a QB at this point in his career
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Posted: 1/23/2013 12:22 PM

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Gonzorot wrote:
Jetman55 wrote:
cysporsche wrote: Personally, I hope the Wildcat is dead. If we want to run it with David Lee as QB Coach, Kerley looked very good to me. Denard Robinson would be a wasted draft pick.

I am not a fan of trying to change a player's position from College to the Pro's. Drafting QB Scott Frost in the 3rd round to change him to safety, was a huge mistake.

Go Jets...Cyborg
However, the Packers have effectively saved money by drafting Cobb (Qb Kentuckey), converting him to WR, and he has replaced Jennings who will likely be a Dolphin, Panther, Redskin, or Bear in a couple months.  You could say the same for Hines Ward.
yeah for every one of those you named which is only one there are a ton of Matt Jones, Brad Smih,Pat White failure QB to WR's... The thing is Denard Robinson has serious fumbling issues and poor hands.. I personally think you could do better then signing a real WR to play WR.. But if you really feel you can skip addressing a hole on the roster to pick a KR/ WR when you already have Joe Mcknight go ahead.

It is not magically cheaper to convert QB's to WR's that is false, Randall Cobb is going to be paid big time once his rookie contract wears out and is not even associated as a QB at this point in his career
Don't jump on me, fella.  I didn't say I want Robinson, I'm just saying it works sometimes too.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 12:29 PM

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Jetman55 wrote:
cysporsche wrote: Personally, I hope the Wildcat is dead. If we want to run it with David Lee as QB Coach, Kerley looked very good to me. Denard Robinson would be a wasted draft pick.

I am not a fan of trying to change a player's position from College to the Pro's. Drafting QB Scott Frost in the 3rd round to change him to safety, was a huge mistake.

Go Jets...Cyborg
However, the Packers have effectively saved money by drafting Cobb (Qb Kentuckey), converting him to WR, and he has replaced Jennings who will likely be a Dolphin, Panther, Redskin, or Bear in a couple months.  You could say the same for Hines Ward.
Yeah, and the Carolina Panthers have been trying to coach up WR Amanti Edwards to WR for 3 years. He was the stud QB from little Appalachian St. in Boone, NC who knocked off Michigan, as one of the biggest upsets in College football. Brandon Moore was drafted as a DT and switched to guard, but that's rare.

Go Jets...Cyborg
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Posted: 1/23/2013 12:54 PM

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if he's available late, and we have Bell, Landry, Revis, another athletic LB, a real 3 down back, a real RT, a ready to go WR, a true pass rusher under our belts, have at it.

We need too much.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 1:41 PM

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Saying that he can't be coverted is not  true look at the former PENN ST QB Michael Robinson I would say he has had a pretty decent career
The one thing about Robinson is that he is a playmaker and that is something that this football team desperatley needs
I am by know means advocating drafting him but he is a guy that should at least be looked at
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Posted: 1/23/2013 2:08 PM

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skopko wrote: if he's available late, and we have Bell, Landry, Revis, another athletic LB, a real 3 down back, a real RT, a ready to go WR, a true pass rusher under our belts, have at it.

We need too much.
Which three-down back, or "real" RT, or "ready to go" WR, or true pass rusher will be available between rounds 5-7?

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Posted: 1/23/2013 2:15 PM

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SackExchange wrote:
skopko wrote: if he's available late, and we have Bell, Landry, Revis, another athletic LB, a real 3 down back, a real RT, a ready to go WR, a true pass rusher under our belts, have at it.

We need too much.
Which three-down back, or "real" RT, or "ready to go" WR, or true pass rusher will be available between rounds 5-7?
Last year Alfred Morris fell into that category.  This year I would say Lattimore, Franklin, Gillispe, Ellington, or Bell could fall into that category (not all of them, I'm just saying they have the potential to be this year's Alfred Morris).

Regarding WRs, "go to" is a strong word, as in they will be #1.  I think several quality #3 will be in there, Goodwin from Texas as an example.
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Posted: 1/23/2013 2:25 PM

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I think the Jets have a quality #3 in Kerley. Hill has #1 potential, even if his skills right now are more at #2 level.

Yes, you can get RBs late. You could also draft Tom Brady late. But I think expectations may be a little high if fans are looking to find the kind of talent skopko mentioned in the last three rounds.

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