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Will the Jets ever be a championship team again?

Posted: 1/6/2013 11:29 AM

Will the Jets ever be a championship team again? 


I've been a Jets fan since 1982 so I think I can say I've been through enough heartaches with this team. Don't get me wrong, I know the Jets have had many playoff seasons and been to 4 championship games (82, 98, 09 and 10 if I'm correct).  So the team has been successful but not a champoinship team since 69.  Know I knew winning a champoinship doesnt come easy and there are many fans that are feeling the same way about there teams as we do.  However; we are in NY-NJ and with the media coverage here and not the mention the other team we share a staduim with that seems to make us look like the red headed reject step-brothers makes it that much worse.

So ofcourse I'm hoping like the rest of you that our team will win a championship soon and not just be a average run of the mill football team but WHEN?  They say it takes a elite front office (owner, GM and head coach) plus a QB, D-end and corner back to build a champoinship franchise so how far are we from being there?  This is going to be a ruff 2-3 years under this new GM with the way Tanny has left the franchise in the cap disaster.  Also; what about Rex, is he really the answer and can he really lead the team to a championship?  He did it twice for us but with a team that was handed to him that was championship ready.  Now that they have destroyed the roster and they have to rebuild from the start can he, the new GM and Woody do it?  Thoughts?

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Posted: 1/6/2013 11:42 AM

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With a smart football person scouting and drafting players, bringing in top FA talent and selecting the right coaches then yes we can. We will have to be patient-2013 is a transition year for us. I think we make a run in 2014, more realistically 2015.
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Posted: 1/6/2013 11:51 AM

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jets82 wrote: I've been a Jets fan since 1982 so I think I say I've been through heartache with this team. Don't get me wrong, I know the Jets have had many playoff seasons and been to 4 championship games (82, 98, 09 and 10 if I'm correct).  So the team has been a success but not a champoinship team since 69.  Know I knew winning a champoinship doesnt come easy and there are many fans that are feeling the same way about there teams as we do.  However; we are in NY-NJ and with the media coverage here.  Not the mention the other team we share a staduim with that seems to make us look like the red headed reject step-brothers makes it that much worse.

So ofcourse I'm hoping like the rest of you that our team will win a championship soon and not just be a average run of the mill football team but WHEN?  They say it takes a elite front office (owner, GM and head coach), QB, D-end and corner back to build a champoinship franchise so how far are we from being there?  This is going to be a ruff 2-3 years under this new Gm with the way Tanny has left the franchise in the cap and what about Rex, is he really the answer-can he really lead the team to a championship?  He did it twice us but with a team that was handed to him that was champoinship ready.  Not that they have destroyed the roster and they have to rebuild from the start, can he, the new GM and woody do it?  Thoughts?
I hear ya bro. Been a fan since '81 and the most frustrating thing for me is the fact that we have been close many years. If we had a few SBs over the years - like in '83, '86, '98, '04, '09 or '10 - we would be considered one of the Greatest Franchises in the NFL. But, they always blow it at the worst possible time, so we are one of the not quite there, mid-level franchises. I always consider us like the Chargers, Chiefs, VIkings kinda franchise. Certainly not the Cowboys, Steelers, Packers, and hopefully not like the Lions, Bengals types. It really could have been great if they could have pulled a few out, but 0-4 in AFC Championship games KILLS! That is a pathetic record. Alternatively, the Giatns are 5-0 in NFC Championship games and that's the BIG difference between us. However, when they do finally win it one day, it will be the greatest, most fun, most amazing, awesomest coolest, biggest, most wonderful, bestest thing in the whole world. - like sex with sophia verga Xs Christmas Xs the greatest day in the history of the WORLD! I can't wait. :)
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Posted: 1/6/2013 12:09 PM

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jets82 wrote: I've been a Jets fan since 1982 so I think I say I've been through heartache with this team. Don't get me wrong, I know the Jets have had many playoff seasons and been to 4 championship games (82, 98, 09 and 10 if I'm correct).  So the team has been a success but not a champoinship team since 69.  Know I knew winning a champoinship doesnt come easy and there are many fans that are feeling the same way about there teams as we do.  However; we are in NY-NJ and with the media coverage here.  Not the mention the other team we share a staduim with that seems to make us look like the red headed reject step-brothers makes it that much worse.

So ofcourse I'm hoping like the rest of you that our team will win a championship soon and not just be a average run of the mill football team but WHEN?  They say it takes a elite front office (owner, GM and head coach), QB, D-end and corner back to build a champoinship franchise so how far are we from being there?  This is going to be a ruff 2-3 years under this new Gm with the way Tanny has left the franchise in the cap and what about Rex, is he really the answer-can he really lead the team to a championship?  He did it twice us but with a team that was handed to him that was champoinship ready.  Not that they have destroyed the roster and they have to rebuild from the start, can he, the new GM and woody do it?  Thoughts?
I hear ya bro. Been a fan since '81 and the most frustrating thing for me is the fact that we have been close many years. If we had a few SBs over the years - like in '83, '86, '98, '04, '09 or '10 - we would be considered one of the Greatest Franchises in the NFL. But, they always blow it at the worst possible time, so we are one of the not quite there, mid-level franchises. I always consider us like the Chargers, Chiefs, VIkings kinda franchise. Certainly not the Cowboys, Steelers, Packers, and hopefully not like the Lions, Bengals types. It really could have been great if they could have pulled a few out, but 0-4 in AFC Championship games KILLS! That is a pathetic record. Alternatively, the Giatns are 5-0 in NFC Championship games and that's the BIG difference between us. However, when they do finally win it one day, it will be the greatest, most fun, most amazing, awesomest coolest, biggest, most wonderful, bestest thing in the whole world. - like sex with sophia verga Xs Christmas Xs the greatest day in the history of the WORLD! I can't wait. :)
There have times that I have strongly considered not rooting for the Jets but I just can't do it.  I'm a die-hard and will remain so no matter what.  However; It's so freaking frustrating rooting for a franchise that teases you and then shoots a gigantic hole through your heart.  This year had to have been the worse!  I can remember season we were 1-15, 3-13 etc... and we were a better football team and more respected then we were this year.  This year we were the laughing stock of the league and that was real hard to deal with. 

Years past when we had worse records, atleast we were all about football and not about getting the media back pages.  Its seems like thats what we were about this year and truly not about winning.  If we were all about winning, Rex and Sparona would have benched Mr. BUTT FUMBLE and played Mcelroy or Tebow by week 5-6 at the latest.  That's the past and now what will the future hold?  Will we get back to being all about football, winning or losing record?  I believe once we do that, we will be on our way to becoming a championship franchise team.

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Posted: 1/6/2013 1:08 PM

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There have times that I have strongly considered not rooting for the Jets but I just can't do it.  I'm a die-hard and will remain so no matter what.  However; It's so freaking frustrating rooting for a franchise that teases you and then shoots a gigantic hole through your heart.  This year had to have been the worse!  I can remember season we were 1-15, 3-13 etc... and we were a better football team and more respected then we were this year.  This year we were the laughing stock of the league and that was real hard to deal with. 

Years past when we had worse records, atleast we were all about football and not about getting the media back pages.  Its seems like thats what we were about this year and truly not about winning.  If we were all about winning, Rex and Sparona would have benched Mr. BUTT FUMBLE and played Mcelroy or Tebow by week 5-6 at the latest.  That's the past and now what will the future hold?  Will we get back to being all about football, winning or losing record?  I believe once we do that, we will be on our way to becoming a championship franchise team.
You know, for me, this year wasn't as bad as the heart wrenching loses at the very end that make you sick to your stomach. They stunk the whole year (other than the first game), so you really never got ropped into believing this could be their year (like they do so many other times). I hear what you are saying and would much rather be 12-4 and playing in the playoffs, but that pain of those big playoff loses (like '83, '86, '98, '09 and '10) really kill you deep down because of how close you are and how when you get to that point, you HAVE to win because it's so hard to get to that point. This year they were not even a little close. They were out of it in week 2.
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Posted: 1/6/2013 1:50 PM

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Good point and I do agree. I never thought they were going to be any better then 4-12 or 5-11 anyway so their record wasn't the issue for me. Its all the tebow, sanchez, rex and this is the best team we've had thus far garbage he was spitting. The media, other teams and their fans were just relishing the fact of feeding off our downfaults and I can't remember it ever being this bad. This is because rex and tanny fed them and kept feeding them the garbage to kill us. I hate losing, especially the playoff heart wrenching we were close games like you mentioned but this was just as bad. If were gonna stink, let us stink in peace and focus on rebuilding. Not this laughing stock garbage we dealt with this year.

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There have times that I have strongly considered not rooting for the Jets but I just can't do it.  I'm a die-hard and will remain so no matter what.  However; It's so freaking frustrating rooting for a franchise that teases you and then shoots a gigantic hole through your heart.  This year had to have been the worse!  I can remember season we were 1-15, 3-13 etc... and we were a better football team and more respected then we were this year.  This year we were the laughing stock of the league and that was real hard to deal with. 

Years past when we had worse records, atleast we were all about football and not about getting the media back pages.  Its seems like thats what we were about this year and truly not about winning.  If we were all about winning, Rex and Sparona would have benched Mr. BUTT FUMBLE and played Mcelroy or Tebow by week 5-6 at the latest.  That's the past and now what will the future hold?  Will we get back to being all about football, winning or losing record?  I believe once we do that, we will be on our way to becoming a championship franchise team.
You know, for me, this year wasn't as bad as the heart wrenching loses at the very end that make you sick to your stomach. They stunk the whole year (other than the first game), so you really never got ropped into believing this could be their year (like they do so many other times). I hear what you are saying and would much rather be 12-4 and playing in the playoffs, but that pain of those big playoff loses (like '83, '86, '98, '09 and '10) really kill you deep down because of how close you are and how when you get to that point, you HAVE to win because it's so hard to get to that point. This year they were not even a little close. They were out of it in week 2.

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Posted: 1/6/2013 2:04 PM

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jets82 wrote: I've been a Jets fan since 1982 so I think I can say I've been through enough heartaches with this team. Don't get me wrong, I know the Jets have had many playoff seasons and been to 4 championship games (82, 98, 09 and 10 if I'm correct).  So the team has been successful but not a champoinship team since 69.  Know I knew winning a champoinship doesnt come easy and there are many fans that are feeling the same way about there teams as we do.  However; we are in NY-NJ and with the media coverage here and not the mention the other team we share a staduim with that seems to make us look like the red headed reject step-brothers makes it that much worse.

So ofcourse I'm hoping like the rest of you that our team will win a championship soon and not just be a average run of the mill football team but WHEN?  They say it takes a elite front office (owner, GM and head coach) plus a QB, D-end and corner back to build a champoinship franchise so how far are we from being there?  This is going to be a ruff 2-3 years under this new GM with the way Tanny has left the franchise in the cap disaster.  Also; what about Rex, is he really the answer and can he really lead the team to a championship?  He did it twice for us but with a team that was handed to him that was championship ready.  Now that they have destroyed the roster and they have to rebuild from the start can he, the new GM and Woody do it?  Thoughts?
It takes a QB. The Jets have had some decent ones(Testaverde,Pennington,O'Brien) over the years ,but not a real elite one. Now the Jets have a very bad one. If we could ever get one,coupled with Rex knowledge of defense(4 top ten finishes in team D in 4 years),we can be champions. However,easier said than done.
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Posted: 1/6/2013 2:09 PM

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Yeah I have my doubts of the Jets ever winning a championship (but I do have hope) and I know this year was really rough especially due to the extra unnecessary attention brought upon the team by questionable decisions, Tebow, the mainstream media, blooper plays and Jets beat writers in general but I think if the hiring of Tom Gamble goes through it is a GIGANTIC step in the right direction...Rex needs to get his head back in the game otherwise we will probably have to move on after next season...but I liked the move by Woody acknowledging he is not a football guy and hiring a firm to help him find the new GM and Gamble was far and away my top preference (besides someone like DeCosta who was never going to leave Baltimore) so I'm very satisfied so far...I think if we eventually have a terrible year and get ourselves an elite QB in the draft that may be the only way we'll ever get to hoist the Lombardi, otherwise we'll just have to get lucky one year
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Posted: 1/6/2013 2:10 PM

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Of course! Whether any of us will live long enough to witness it remains to be seen
ROLL TIDE!
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Posted: 1/6/2013 2:21 PM

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Of course! Whether any of us will live long enough to witness it remains to be seen

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That's the question, will any of us be alive to see it? It just might take that long, WOW!!!!

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Posted: 1/6/2013 2:23 PM

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Yeah I have my doubts of the Jets ever winning a championship (but I do have hope) and I know this year was really rough especially due to the extra unnecessary attention brought upon the team by questionable decisions, Tebow, the mainstream media, blooper plays and Jets beat writers in general but I think if the hiring of Tom Gamble goes through it is a GIGANTIC step in the right direction...Rex needs to get his head back in the game otherwise we will probably have to move on after next season...but I liked the move by Woody acknowledging he is not a football guy and hiring a firm to help him find the new GM and Gamble was far and away my top preference (besides someone like DeCosta who was never going to leave Baltimore) so I'm very satisfied so far...I think if we eventually have a terrible year and get ourselves an elite QB in the draft that may be the only way we'll ever get to hoist the Lombardi, otherwise we'll just have to get lucky one year

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That's why I think we need to build through the draft mostly over the next couple of years. Go young and let our players grow together. This draft, we should focus on linebackers, rb's, wr's and o-line.  Maybe also t-ends and d-ends with the fact of devito and keller may not be back.  Qb shouldnt be a priority until the 4-5 round being there are no elite qb's this year and ofcourse none in free-agency. They should get rid of tebow and sanchez ofcourse, draft a qb late in the rounds and get a quality veteran (not Vick) to fight it out with mcelroy for starter next year.  We roll with that and see where it takes us.  Atleast then we are building correctly towards a championship.

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Posted: 1/6/2013 2:47 PM

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Ever?

I wonder if Pats fans thought the same thing after 40 years of no rings and mostly futility before Mo Lewis hit Drew Bledsoe.

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Posted: 1/6/2013 2:57 PM

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SackExchange wrote: Ever?

I wonder if Pats fans thought the same thing after 40 years of no rings and mostly futility before Mo Lewis hit Drew Bledsoe.
They probably did.  If i'm correct, besides the years Parcells was with them and in the 80's when they played the Bears in the SB, they sucked for years.
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Posted: 1/6/2013 3:01 PM

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Those were the two pre-Brady shining achievements of the Pats, two SB appearances. Unfortunately, that was one more than the Jets, but the Jets at least had the ring. 

When the right GM, HC, and QB fall into place, magic can happen.

It's organizations like the Packers and Colts that are the anomaly. How you replace a HoF QB with another top young franchise QB is just unbelievable. Most teams can't do that...though look at the 49ers with Montana and Young.

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Posted: 1/6/2013 3:02 PM

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jets82 wrote:

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Yeah I have my doubts of the Jets ever winning a championship (but I do have hope) and I know this year was really rough especially due to the extra unnecessary attention brought upon the team by questionable decisions, Tebow, the mainstream media, blooper plays and Jets beat writers in general but I think if the hiring of Tom Gamble goes through it is a GIGANTIC step in the right direction...Rex needs to get his head back in the game otherwise we will probably have to move on after next season...but I liked the move by Woody acknowledging he is not a football guy and hiring a firm to help him find the new GM and Gamble was far and away my top preference (besides someone like DeCosta who was never going to leave Baltimore) so I'm very satisfied so far...I think if we eventually have a terrible year and get ourselves an elite QB in the draft that may be the only way we'll ever get to hoist the Lombardi, otherwise we'll just have to get lucky one year

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That's why I think we need to build through the draft mostly over the next couple of years. Go young and let our players grow together. This draft, we should focus on linebackers, rb's, wr's and o-line.  Maybe also t-ends and d-ends with the fact of devito and keller may not be back.  Qb shouldnt be a priority until the 4-5 round being there are no elite qb's this year and ofcourse none in free-agency. They should get rid of tebow and sanchez ofcourse, draft a qb late in the rounds and get a quality veteran (not Vick) to fight it out with mcelroy for starter next year.  We roll with that and see where it takes us.  Atleast then we are building correctly towards a championship.
Yeah I've always said successful teams build through the draft and with the Gamble hiring that should be the way our culture shifts...too many bandaids and big free agent signings set this franchise back several years and we were left with the depth issues that we found ourselves with this season due to such a small amount of picks 2008-2010...trader Mike traded himself right out of a job, not to mention the Tebow trade and Sanchez deal were unforgivable after the ways they worked out
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Posted: 1/6/2013 3:03 PM

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Super Bowl title 2013

Jets & Hawkeyes. I must enjoy torturing myself. >.<
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Posted: 1/6/2013 3:10 PM

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ILDUCE24 wrote:
jets82 wrote:

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Yeah I have my doubts of the Jets ever winning a championship (but I do have hope) and I know this year was really rough especially due to the extra unnecessary attention brought upon the team by questionable decisions, Tebow, the mainstream media, blooper plays and Jets beat writers in general but I think if the hiring of Tom Gamble goes through it is a GIGANTIC step in the right direction...Rex needs to get his head back in the game otherwise we will probably have to move on after next season...but I liked the move by Woody acknowledging he is not a football guy and hiring a firm to help him find the new GM and Gamble was far and away my top preference (besides someone like DeCosta who was never going to leave Baltimore) so I'm very satisfied so far...I think if we eventually have a terrible year and get ourselves an elite QB in the draft that may be the only way we'll ever get to hoist the Lombardi, otherwise we'll just have to get lucky one year

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That's why I think we need to build through the draft mostly over the next couple of years. Go young and let our players grow together. This draft, we should focus on linebackers, rb's, wr's and o-line.  Maybe also t-ends and d-ends with the fact of devito and keller may not be back.  Qb shouldnt be a priority until the 4-5 round being there are no elite qb's this year and ofcourse none in free-agency. They should get rid of tebow and sanchez ofcourse, draft a qb late in the rounds and get a quality veteran (not Vick) to fight it out with mcelroy for starter next year.  We roll with that and see where it takes us.  Atleast then we are building correctly towards a championship.
Yeah I've always said successful teams build through the draft and with the Gamble hiring that should be the way our culture shifts...too many bandaids and big free agent signings set this franchise back several years and we were left with the depth issues that we found ourselves with this season due to such a small amount of picks 2008-2010...trader Mike traded himself right out of a job, not to mention the Tebow trade and Sanchez deal were unforgivable after the ways they worked out
Yup, Mr. BUTT FUMBLE has killed us the past two seasons!  Getting Tebow made it even worse but the way Sanchez played, they should have played him.  It wasnt going to get any worse.  I'm glad he's gone next year.  Hopefully Sanchez is gone also and we can focus on building this team with a real QB.  Who that person will be and when will they be here is the question.

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Posted: 1/6/2013 4:23 PM

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jets82 wrote:
ILDUCE24 wrote:
jets82 wrote:

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Yeah I have my doubts of the Jets ever winning a championship (but I do have hope) and I know this year was really rough especially due to the extra unnecessary attention brought upon the team by questionable decisions, Tebow, the mainstream media, blooper plays and Jets beat writers in general but I think if the hiring of Tom Gamble goes through it is a GIGANTIC step in the right direction...Rex needs to get his head back in the game otherwise we will probably have to move on after next season...but I liked the move by Woody acknowledging he is not a football guy and hiring a firm to help him find the new GM and Gamble was far and away my top preference (besides someone like DeCosta who was never going to leave Baltimore) so I'm very satisfied so far...I think if we eventually have a terrible year and get ourselves an elite QB in the draft that may be the only way we'll ever get to hoist the Lombardi, otherwise we'll just have to get lucky one year

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That's why I think we need to build through the draft mostly over the next couple of years. Go young and let our players grow together. This draft, we should focus on linebackers, rb's, wr's and o-line.  Maybe also t-ends and d-ends with the fact of devito and keller may not be back.  Qb shouldnt be a priority until the 4-5 round being there are no elite qb's this year and ofcourse none in free-agency. They should get rid of tebow and sanchez ofcourse, draft a qb late in the rounds and get a quality veteran (not Vick) to fight it out with mcelroy for starter next year.  We roll with that and see where it takes us.  Atleast then we are building correctly towards a championship.
Yeah I've always said successful teams build through the draft and with the Gamble hiring that should be the way our culture shifts...too many bandaids and big free agent signings set this franchise back several years and we were left with the depth issues that we found ourselves with this season due to such a small amount of picks 2008-2010...trader Mike traded himself right out of a job, not to mention the Tebow trade and Sanchez deal were unforgivable after the ways they worked out
Yup, Mr. BUTT FUMBLE has killed us the past two seasons!  Getting Tebow made it even worse but the way Sanchez played, they should have played him.  It wasnt going to get any worse.  I'm glad he's gone next year.  Hopefully Sanchez is gone also and we can focus on building this team with a real QB.  Who that person will be and when will they be here is the question.
Keeping my eye on Kevin Hogan of Stanford...unfortunately, he won't be coming out in 2015 or 2016...Teddy Bridgewater could come out next year and may be worth a look, and Johnny Manziel also in 2014 or 2015...we probably won't get lucky enough to be in position to draft any of them though
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Posted: 1/6/2013 4:30 PM

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Yeah I really liked what I saw of Hogan in that Rose Bowl game. Big, strong guy with quick feet, good arm. Huge future ahead of him.
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Posted: 1/6/2013 4:46 PM

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Few teams build correctly like the Steelers, Pats, Gaints, 49ers, Colts, Redskins and even the Cowboys from back in the day.  Look how many SB's they have won, right now they are a dumpster fire like our team but they are a championship franchice team (make no mistake in that).  Then you have teams like the jets, chargers, atlanta, minnesota, bills etc... that are close but never can seem to get there.  If this Gamble guy can build the team correctly and he and Woody can get Rex to focus on coaching, strictly coaching and leaving the drama and BS behind him, we may be onto something in the next 2-3 years.

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