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Please Explain: Why do we need a RB?

Posted: 1/3/2013 5:25 PM

Please Explain: Why do we need a RB? 


Let me start by saying there are 32 NFL starting RB's and 16 rushed for 1,000 yds and Shonn Greene was # 14 in the league in rushing this year. So sufice to say he is better than most.  And with that said Do we all not agree the last 2 years our OL play has been below average and our Offensive play calling is terrible?  From all the posts I have read we are all in agreement there.   Now with that said I think we need a home run hitter maybe it is MCKnight or Powell but I just don't see the point in drafting a RB when we have a proven veteran that probably would have benefited from a littel help at OL and playcalling not to mention WR blocking, as well as a young back that looks like he may be something in Powell and a very inappropriately used RB in McKnight.   I think we have more important things to concentrate on in Free Agency and the draft.. Save RB for next years off season.  NO?
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Posted: 1/3/2013 5:30 PM

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Agree w/ your post but if Lattimore can be had in the 4th I say pull the trigger...
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Posted: 1/3/2013 7:05 PM

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Agree w/ your post but if Lattimore can be had in the 4th I say pull the trigger...

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Posted: 1/3/2013 7:19 PM

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We don't need a RB but maybe the new GM wants to draft one. Maybe the new GM doesn't trust McKnight to stay healthy. I agree he has not been used well but as soon as seems to get into he gets hurt....the new GM may not want to resign Greene.
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Posted: 1/3/2013 7:32 PM

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NY has to draft a RB. The running game hasn't been the same since Jones left. The 18 backs you think Greene's better than didn't touch the ball as many times as he did. And if you look, four of them, Chris Johnson, Frank Gore, Ray Rice, and CJ Spiller, had more rushing yards and a better average per carry. How is that possible? Again, NY has to draft a RB. If not the draft, then get one in here via a trade or free agency. I'd dangle a 4th in fron of Philly to see if they part with Bryce Brown or work out Javon Ringer. The latter I saw in college carry his team on his back and put up monster numbers and believe would move ahead of all our existing backs on the roster. If you have a chance to get a back that can carry the ball 20-25 times per game (like Greene), got speed (like McKnight), and can block (like Powell), you should do it. It saves you the trouble of paying three people to do the job of one and gives you the cap space/room on the roster you need to direct to areas of great need.

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Posted: 1/3/2013 8:39 PM

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we need a breakaway threat.  I like Greene also, but he and Powell as the same type of back.  Remember Spiller in the last game??????  We have no one on the roster who can do that..... not Green  not Powell and not McKnight
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Posted: 1/3/2013 9:02 PM

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we 100% do need a rb for this team.  We have three guys who are mediocre at best.  Greene is a short yardage type of back and is not a bell cow.  He also can't be an every down back because of his inability to catch the ball out of the backfield.

What makes guys like Mccoy, Rice, Spiller, AP , Martin, MJD so successful is the ability to catch the ball and create mismatches versus linebackers.  As it stands, the opposing linebackers can just drop in coverage or blitz when Shonn is in the game becuase he isn't a threat to leak out for a pass.  I know he caught some balls but he immediately goes down and is not elusive at all.  This is a huge missing piece from our team.

In addition, when we put powell in a lot of the time, it is because it is on passing plays.  When you have one back who can do both, the defense is on their heels and they don't know if it is a run or pass.

Greene needs to be let go.  I don't mind Powell as a change of pace guy but he is not the answer either.  We need a playmaker every down type of back within the 2-5 round of this draft.  Reggie Bush is hte player in free agency that can do both of these things as well.
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Posted: 1/3/2013 9:10 PM

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It's worth remembering that Shonn Greene is a free agent.
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Posted: 1/3/2013 9:26 PM

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Are you guys kidding me? The jets need a legit number one back desperately! Greene should not be signed, he's not a homer in threat, and his collisions are hard on him, he won't last long health wise .. mcKnight.. I just don't see it he gets careless with the ball, and has never earned his way into increased playing time, even when bilial was injured..

The jets need a back that picks up the blitz, can catch the ball, and has the speed to break a big run at any moment..

Without that.. Our run game is slow, and can be defended.. I'd take lattimore late in the draft, as well as a good strong speed back..
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Posted: 1/3/2013 10:27 PM

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Everyone needs to stop with the whole "1000 yards rusher" accolades.. It's a 16 game seaon so Shonn Greene really tore it up for a whopping 62.5 yards a game ooooh scary. He's a number two back always has been. He's nothing more than a great caddie to a feature back.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:47 AM

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I don't think the intention was to imply that Greene, et al. are the end all/be all. After last years high-octance performances, its a matter of what's needed more right now (this off-season). IMHO, I'd like to see a #1: legit QB battle in camp, #2: OL help (both RT/Guard positions), #3: this is a toss-up between finding a WR or RB (basically a playmaker).

Also, it's worthy to note there are few/far between RBs who could beat/wear down D's that aren't afraid of the passing attack. Last year, Charles (KC) had a couple of nice games and we all know about AP. Other than that, not many other RB stables had to face what Greene and company did.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 9:56 AM

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Yes please we do need a RB that gives some spark on Offense, also need a scat back that can catch out of the back field.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:14 AM

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I think Powell has some more upside to show yet, and I like Greene, but I agree we don't have a "feature" back like a Thomas Jones or Curtis Martin.  I would sacrifice Greene to make room for a "feature" back before I would Powell.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:35 AM

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Yes Powell stays, ceiling unknown, as he has progressed, I think you have seen the ceiling of Green. He would be better as a spell back in the 3rd Quarter, not first touches.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:46 AM

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We need a very good durable back that can catch the ball out of the backfield well, like LT did/
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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:47 AM

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JETBLITZ1771 wrote: Everyone needs to stop with the whole "1000 yards rusher" accolades.. It's a 16 game seaon so Shonn Greene really tore it up for a whopping 62.5 yards a game ooooh scary. He's a number two back always has been. He's nothing more than a great caddie to a feature back.
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this really has watered down the intelligent banter about the value of RBs over the years.  1000 doesn't mean shiite in terms of real production.  62.5 yards is a banner DEFENSIVE performance.  Jets, having the issues they do at QB/WR, could really use a RB that shortens drives and maybe moves the chess pieces around on the field a bit to make the passing game more feasible.
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Posted: 1/4/2013 10:58 PM

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JETBLITZ1771 wrote: Everyone needs to stop with the whole "1000 yards rusher" accolades.. It's a 16 game seaon so Shonn Greene really tore it up for a whopping 62.5 yards a game ooooh scary. He's a number two back always has been. He's nothing more than a great caddie to a feature back.
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this really has watered down the intelligent banter about the value of RBs over the years.  1000 doesn't mean shiite in terms of real production.  62.5 yards is a banner DEFENSIVE performance.  Jets, having the issues they do at QB/WR, could really use a RB that shortens drives and maybe moves the chess pieces around on the field a bit to make the passing game more feasible.

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My point, which clearly was missed, wouldn't Greene have benefited from better OL play, better passing game, terrible offensive play calling and better WR blocking. I'm not saying I love Greene but rushing for 1000yds while giving up some carries to Powell and the above stated flaws of the offense i think is impressive and if we fix some not even all of those flaws he probably would have rushed for 1200+ easily.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 2:35 AM

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lounap23 wrote:

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JETBLITZ1771 wrote: Everyone needs to stop with the whole "1000 yards rusher" accolades.. It's a 16 game seaon so Shonn Greene really tore it up for a whopping 62.5 yards a game ooooh scary. He's a number two back always has been. He's nothing more than a great caddie to a feature back.
+1

this really has watered down the intelligent banter about the value of RBs over the years.  1000 doesn't mean shiite in terms of real production.  62.5 yards is a banner DEFENSIVE performance.  Jets, having the issues they do at QB/WR, could really use a RB that shortens drives and maybe moves the chess pieces around on the field a bit to make the passing game more feasible.

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My point, which clearly was missed, wouldn't Greene have benefited from better OL play, better passing game, terrible offensive play calling and better WR blocking. I'm not saying I love Greene but rushing for 1000yds while giving up some carries to Powell and the above stated flaws of the offense i think is impressive and if we fix some not even all of those flaws he probably would have rushed for 1200+ easily.
The problem with Greene is he's thee yards and a cloud of dust. He's a grinder not a HR threat gamebreaker. He's the perfect late game closer not the feature guy.
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Posted: 1/5/2013 3:10 AM

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lounap23 wrote:

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JETBLITZ1771 wrote: Everyone needs to stop with the whole "1000 yards rusher" accolades.. It's a 16 game seaon so Shonn Greene really tore it up for a whopping 62.5 yards a game ooooh scary. He's a number two back always has been. He's nothing more than a great caddie to a feature back.
+1

this really has watered down the intelligent banter about the value of RBs over the years.  1000 doesn't mean shiite in terms of real production.  62.5 yards is a banner DEFENSIVE performance.  Jets, having the issues they do at QB/WR, could really use a RB that shortens drives and maybe moves the chess pieces around on the field a bit to make the passing game more feasible.

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My point, which clearly was missed, wouldn't Greene have benefited from better OL play, better passing game, terrible offensive play calling and better WR blocking. I'm not saying I love Greene but rushing for 1000yds while giving up some carries to Powell and the above stated flaws of the offense i think is impressive and if we fix some not even all of those flaws he probably would have rushed for 1200+ easily.
The problem with Greene is he's thee yards and a cloud of dust. He's a grinder not a HR threat gamebreaker. He's the perfect late game closer not the feature guy.

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To a degree. I agree he isn't a home run threat but I remember some big home runs from him when the OL was breasting. No he is not ray rice or cj spiller but I rather upgrade the OLB, OL, QB, WR positions and of course a new OC
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Posted: 1/5/2013 6:03 AM

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Greene had 2 100 yard games and 4 games of 40 yards or less. 1000 yards in 16 full games isn't enough.
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