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Keeping Rex Ryan was New York Jets' worst move of 2012

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Posted: 1/1/2013 12:55 PM

Keeping Rex Ryan was New York Jets' worst move of 2012 


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/...st-move-of-2012


The New York Jets made former general manager Mike Tannenbaum the fall guy
for their bumbling, grotesque, laughable 6-10 season of
underachievement. They fired Tannenbaum on "Black Monday" via a
statement from owner Woody Johnson, which included the explanation that
coach Rex Ryan would return because of "the passion, the talent and the drive to successfully lead our team" that Ryan possesses.


  

Apparently, Johnson didn't watch the Jets this season, or he doesn't understand how his football operations worked.


  

In a year that included the Tim Tebow insanity, Mark Sanchez's
gruesome underachievement, and the expression "butt fumble" becoming
forever a part of the football lexicon, Monday's decision to keep Ryan
and fire Tannenbaum was the Jets' worst moment of 2012.



  

Hey -- happy New Year.


  

The Jets
had two choices: Take a deep breath and retain both Ryan and Tannenbaum
-- a duo that won more games than they lost in their four years
together -- or fire both. The one thing they shouldn't have done was
attack the issue piecemeal.


  

The decision was very simple, but the Jets messed it up in "butt fumble" fashion.


  

You can make the case that Tannenbaum deserved to lose his job because of the extension given to Sanchez last offseason, guaranteeing the quarterback more than $8 million for 2013.
It was basically money to pump up the confidence-deficient
signal-caller coming off a shaky 2011. One could also cite other bad
player contracts in making a case against Tannenbaum.


  

But Ryan and Tannenbaum should've been attached at the hip.

Ryan worked hand-in-hand with Tannenbaum on shaping the Jets. He had more power than most head coaches.


  

Ryan was convinced Sanchez had the talent and personality (which
is laughable to think now, after Sanchez's postgame press conferences
this year) to handle New York and thrive. He wanted to draft Sanchez. He
pushed for Tannenbaum to give him that contract after speculation arose
that the Jets wanted Peyton Manning.


  

Ryan wanted Tebow. He wanted to run the ball and get back to
"ground and pound," and he envisioned Tebow as a threat in the red zone,
in short-yardage situations and in the Wildcat.


  

Remember the toxic Jets locker room in 2011 and all the finger pointing that was part of that season's collapse? Ryan thought Tebow could help the locker room. That's a fact.


  

Yes, Tannenbaum was on board with the trade. But Ryan, who shares an agent with Tebow, drove the bus.


  

Tannenbaum wanted to sign Chad Henne to be Sanchez's backup. The Jets did, in fact, sign Drew Stanton before the Tebow trade. After the Tebow trade, Tannenbaum did right by Stanton, dealing him to the Indianapolis Colts. As it turned out, Stanton would've been the best quarterback on the Jets' roster this year.


  

Ryan hand-picked Tony Sparano
as his offensive coordinator to run the ball. As Ryan told me, "I
wanted to find the mirror image of me." It was an unmitigated disaster.

The Jets' offensive line was the worst it had been in years. Ryan wanted Dave
DeGuglielmo as his line coach. Ryan told me on SiriusXM this summer that
he knew DeGuglielmo was his guy when he saw him kick over a garbage
can, showing fight. Garbage, as it turned out, was the ideal metaphor.

It's easy to say that Tannenbaum
put together a poor roster, and it's a valid criticism. However, I'd
argue that the bigger issue was giving Ryan so much say, listening to
him when he claimed he could coach up the likes of Aaron Maybin and Wayne Hunter and turn them into signature players.


  

In a related story, both Maybin and Hunter are now ex-Jets.


  

The collaboration between Ryan and Tannenbaum sometimes worked, as it did when it came to Muhammad Wilkerson, Antonio Cromartie or LaRon Landry. But don't get confused. These are Rex's Jets, from Chaz Schilens to Bart Scott.
Ryan told me that, when Tannenbaum told him Santonio Holmes was
available via trade, he ran down to Tannenbaum's office faster than he
ever had in his life.


  

Nobody had a worse 2012 for the Jets than Rex.


  

Sparano lost faith in Tebow early on because of bad practice and Tebow's weight gain. Last summer, Tebow was behind both Kyle Orton and Brady Quinn on the Denver Broncos' depth chart before leading the team to the playoffs. If you get in bed with Tebow, you don't judge on practice.


  

Ryan is a sub-par in-game coach. His usage of timeouts and challenges is laughable.


  

He consistently had the wrong quarterbacks active down the stretch. He went into the Thanksgiving game against the New England Patriots with Tebow as the backup quarterback, even though Tebow was hurt. After Greg McElroy saved the Jets in the offensively challenged matchup with the Arizona Cardinals, Ryan had him inactive for the next two weeks. That included the ill-fated Week 15 loss to the Tennessee Titans, during which Mark Sanchez turned the ball over five times. Would have been nice for Jets fans if Ryan had been able to go to McElroy in that one.


  


   






  

Ryan coaches his team like a glorified defensive coordinator.


  

He looks especially bad when one considers how the San Diego Chargers and Buffalo Bills closed out their seasons. Like the Jets, the Chargers and Bills were merely playing out the string over the final few weeks, but unlike the Jets, the Chargers and the Bills kept fighting. In Week 16, San Diego had to travel to the East Coast to face the Jets for an early start; the Bolts easily could have quit. Instead, they played hard in a 27-17 win. However, both the Chargers and Bills fired head coaches Norv Turner and Chan Gailey, respectively.


  

Ryan, meanwhile, got to keep his job, even though he can't coach, manage, or properly evaluate players or coaches.


  

What legit general manager candidate would take this job and inherit Rex?


  

Think about the dynamic for next season. The Jets aren't close to competing with the New England Patriots and winning the AFC East. This offseason calls for the Jets
to be re-shaped while the cap ramifications of Tannenbaum's bad deals
are handled. The new GM should want to stockpile talent and build the
team smartly. Ryan, on the other hand, will be coaching for his job;
he'll favor band-aid-type solutions, even though surgery is what the Jets need.

Historically, things don't work out when the new brass keeps the old coach. Look at Chicago Bears GM Phil Emery and former coach Lovie Smith. Analyze what happened when Mike Holmgren joined the Cleveland Browns without jettisoning Eric Mangini. Such moves simply delay the inevitable.


  

The Jets either needed to keep both Mike and Rex, or they needed to start over.


  

Keeping Ryan for another year with a new GM just ensures more wackiness -- and that I'll be penning a "Rex Ryan has been fired" column 365 days from now.


  

Woody Johnson should really reconsider.


  

I feel terrible for the diehard, long-suffering Jets fan, who deserved a better and clearer direction for the team to go in on Monday.


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Posted: 1/1/2013 1:02 PM

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If Rex was a facilitator to the Tebow trade and had a big hand in hiring Sparano, he should be gone too. If not, then I can see giving him one more year. We really need Norv Turner and a pass rusher or I think we might have a similar year next year.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 1:08 PM

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I promise I did not help Schein write it but he must have used the Vulcan mind meld on me.


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Posted: 1/1/2013 1:14 PM

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These guy covering the Jets did not want to spend another year covering Rex and it shows. The owner beliefs in Rex and that means nothing to them, it's obvious Rex cares and intends to do better and Woody sees it. Firing a GM responsible for the groceries and bringing in someone with a better background and track record is a better and clearer direction.

I keep reading about legit GM candidates but never any names attached to them and what makes them so legit? Is is something they've done as GM or is it some guy that works for the GM?
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Posted: 1/1/2013 4:27 PM

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What the problem with ryan is simple , he is not a smart guy ! he is not a x/o gu, he thinks and likes to project the " i know it my gut type guy " , now that type actually doesnt exist in reality , jiust in hollywood or made for tv eposdes,   this is a act ,
which means he is a phony ! lots of phonies have won tho, look at parcells, no personalty of his own, he grew into the job , same w shanahan, shotty, fox, bellichek for instance . The contrary to these are walsh, lombardi, madden landry ! as winners,  and glanville ditka as mild winnerrs !
all ryan has to do this year is simple , instead of saying ground and pound , he actually has to carry it out !!!!!!
step # 1  go get 1-2 more backs and then run the ball 38 times a game,
step #2 go get a big flanker to play opposite, holmes and pair w edwards and keller, this makes the whole team 10 pts better rite there
step #3  actually aquire 2 OUTSIDE  passurushers , not def ends at 285 lbs , they needed 2 nick./dime pass rushers to spike the sack total to over 43 sacks, for years now , that reinvents the middle pocket pressure , that was scary in his 1st 2 years , and has dissaperaed since btw !!!!
really i feel this team is a few players away !! bu they cant chances at qb , they have to bring in a proven vet to win the job , or lose it cause sanches actually  arrives in the preseason !!!!!!
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Posted: 1/1/2013 4:47 PM

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When you clean house you need to clean house. Halfway measures sometimes end up making things worse.

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Posted: 1/1/2013 4:56 PM

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They're just upset that we're not giving them any more tabloid like stories.

"We want guys who will play like a Jet"  John Idzik, GM of the New York Jets

Locally responsive, Globally engaged.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 5:05 PM

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ArmandJ wrote: They're just upset that we're not giving them any more tabloid like stories.
With Woody owning the team and Rex remaining as HC, we can expect another year of back page drama.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 5:32 PM

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The Jets should have let Ryan go for a number of reasons but I'm not sure they have the situation to lure a top flight coach to replace him. Who would want to come to the Jets now (No viable QB on the roster, no top QB's in the draft, probable cap issues which might prevent them from acquiring say an Alex Smith, worst talent in the NFL on offense, Revis upcoming contract issues, mediocre defense and a NY press loves to bash the Jets).

While I think Rex needed to go the new GM needs at least a year to set the table for the next head coach. A head coach worth his salt will probably pick a good situation to come into and right now that's not the Jets.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 7:09 PM

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I wonder if Rex could still get the ax if the new GM that comes in convinces Woody?

In any case, Schein is a moron. He is the over exaggeration king and his idiot friend Carlin does nothing but dump on the Jets. I'm sick of both of them.

There is a point about keeping Rex if we were rebuilding. . . I don't think we are rebuilding. I think we are reloading. While many of the fat contracts will go, we will still keep the core of our D. With Rex, we are at a minimum a top 10 D (Number 8 this year without Revis). For that reason, I'm glad we kept him.

We need to completely "rebuild" the offense and make sure ST does a better job. But the D is in pretty good shape. If we had 10% better play on offense, we'd be in the playoffs. We wouldn't go anywhere, but we would be in.  We DON'T need to do what Indy did last year. We need to build the offense!
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Posted: 1/1/2013 9:08 PM

Re: Keeping Rex Ryan was New York Jets' worst move of 2012 



LikeUntoGod wrote: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/...st-move-of-2012


The New York Jets made former general manager Mike Tannenbaum the fall guy
for their bumbling, grotesque, laughable 6-10 season of
underachievement. They fired Tannenbaum on "Black Monday" via a
statement from owner Woody Johnson, which included the explanation that
coach Rex Ryan would return because of "the passion, the talent and the drive to successfully lead our team" that Ryan possesses.


  

Apparently, Johnson didn't watch the Jets this season, or he doesn't understand how his football operations worked.


  

In a year that included the Tim Tebow insanity, Mark Sanchez's
gruesome underachievement, and the expression "butt fumble" becoming
forever a part of the football lexicon, Monday's decision to keep Ryan
and fire Tannenbaum was the Jets' worst moment of 2012.



  

Hey -- happy New Year.


  

The Jets
had two choices: Take a deep breath and retain both Ryan and Tannenbaum
-- a duo that won more games than they lost in their four years
together -- or fire both. The one thing they shouldn't have done was
attack the issue piecemeal.


  

The decision was very simple, but the Jets messed it up in "butt fumble" fashion.


  

You can make the case that Tannenbaum deserved to lose his job because of the extension given to Sanchez last offseason, guaranteeing the quarterback more than $8 million for 2013.
It was basically money to pump up the confidence-deficient
signal-caller coming off a shaky 2011. One could also cite other bad
player contracts in making a case against Tannenbaum.


  

But Ryan and Tannenbaum should've been attached at the hip.

Ryan worked hand-in-hand with Tannenbaum on shaping the Jets. He had more power than most head coaches.


  

Ryan was convinced Sanchez had the talent and personality (which
is laughable to think now, after Sanchez's postgame press conferences
this year) to handle New York and thrive. He wanted to draft Sanchez. He
pushed for Tannenbaum to give him that contract after speculation arose
that the Jets wanted Peyton Manning.


  

Ryan wanted Tebow. He wanted to run the ball and get back to
"ground and pound," and he envisioned Tebow as a threat in the red zone,
in short-yardage situations and in the Wildcat.


  

Remember the toxic Jets locker room in 2011 and all the finger pointing that was part of that season's collapse? Ryan thought Tebow could help the locker room. That's a fact.


  

Yes, Tannenbaum was on board with the trade. But Ryan, who shares an agent with Tebow, drove the bus.


  

Tannenbaum wanted to sign Chad Henne to be Sanchez's backup. The Jets did, in fact, sign Drew Stanton before the Tebow trade. After the Tebow trade, Tannenbaum did right by Stanton, dealing him to the Indianapolis Colts. As it turned out, Stanton would've been the best quarterback on the Jets' roster this year.


  

Ryan hand-picked Tony Sparano
as his offensive coordinator to run the ball. As Ryan told me, "I
wanted to find the mirror image of me." It was an unmitigated disaster.

The Jets' offensive line was the worst it had been in years. Ryan wanted Dave
DeGuglielmo as his line coach. Ryan told me on SiriusXM this summer that
he knew DeGuglielmo was his guy when he saw him kick over a garbage
can, showing fight. Garbage, as it turned out, was the ideal metaphor.

It's easy to say that Tannenbaum
put together a poor roster, and it's a valid criticism. However, I'd
argue that the bigger issue was giving Ryan so much say, listening to
him when he claimed he could coach up the likes of Aaron Maybin and Wayne Hunter and turn them into signature players.


  

In a related story, both Maybin and Hunter are now ex-Jets.


  

The collaboration between Ryan and Tannenbaum sometimes worked, as it did when it came to Muhammad Wilkerson, Antonio Cromartie or LaRon Landry. But don't get confused. These are Rex's Jets, from Chaz Schilens to Bart Scott.
Ryan told me that, when Tannenbaum told him Santonio Holmes was
available via trade, he ran down to Tannenbaum's office faster than he
ever had in his life.


  

Nobody had a worse 2012 for the Jets than Rex.


  

Sparano lost faith in Tebow early on because of bad practice and Tebow's weight gain. Last summer, Tebow was behind both Kyle Orton and Brady Quinn on the Denver Broncos' depth chart before leading the team to the playoffs. If you get in bed with Tebow, you don't judge on practice.


  

Ryan is a sub-par in-game coach. His usage of timeouts and challenges is laughable.


  

He consistently had the wrong quarterbacks active down the stretch. He went into the Thanksgiving game against the New England Patriots with Tebow as the backup quarterback, even though Tebow was hurt. After Greg McElroy saved the Jets in the offensively challenged matchup with the Arizona Cardinals, Ryan had him inactive for the next two weeks. That included the ill-fated Week 15 loss to the Tennessee Titans, during which Mark Sanchez turned the ball over five times. Would have been nice for Jets fans if Ryan had been able to go to McElroy in that one.


  


   






  

Ryan coaches his team like a glorified defensive coordinator.


  

He looks especially bad when one considers how the San Diego Chargers and Buffalo Bills closed out their seasons. Like the Jets, the Chargers and Bills were merely playing out the string over the final few weeks, but unlike the Jets, the Chargers and the Bills kept fighting. In Week 16, San Diego had to travel to the East Coast to face the Jets for an early start; the Bolts easily could have quit. Instead, they played hard in a 27-17 win. However, both the Chargers and Bills fired head coaches Norv Turner and Chan Gailey, respectively.


  

Ryan, meanwhile, got to keep his job, even though he can't coach, manage, or properly evaluate players or coaches.


  

What legit general manager candidate would take this job and inherit Rex?


  

Think about the dynamic for next season. The Jets aren't close to competing with the New England Patriots and winning the AFC East. This offseason calls for the Jets
to be re-shaped while the cap ramifications of Tannenbaum's bad deals
are handled. The new GM should want to stockpile talent and build the
team smartly. Ryan, on the other hand, will be coaching for his job;
he'll favor band-aid-type solutions, even though surgery is what the Jets need.

Historically, things don't work out when the new brass keeps the old coach. Look at Chicago Bears GM Phil Emery and former coach Lovie Smith. Analyze what happened when Mike Holmgren joined the Cleveland Browns without jettisoning Eric Mangini. Such moves simply delay the inevitable.


  

The Jets either needed to keep both Mike and Rex, or they needed to start over.


  

Keeping Ryan for another year with a new GM just ensures more wackiness -- and that I'll be penning a "Rex Ryan has been fired" column 365 days from now.


  

Woody Johnson should really reconsider.


  

I feel terrible for the diehard, long-suffering Jets fan, who deserved a better and clearer direction for the team to go in on Monday.

geeze, lot of assumptions in here, lot of things you are assuming that you don't know nor do I.  Only ones that know are Mike, Woody and Rex.

One thing I do know is that several teams fired coaches and in my opinion there are very few qualified good coaches on the market.  I can't think of one coach that is "Available" right now that I would take instead of Rex, Not Reid, not Lovie, Not Over rated Cowher or Snake Gruden.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 9:33 PM

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i think its a bad move but only time will tell.  i believe the new GM should be able to choice who he wants to coach the team and woody should trust that he making the right decision.  If the GM wants to keep rex then so be it but it should be his choice.
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Posted: 1/1/2013 10:29 PM

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If there is an unfailing constant in the NY press, it's the love of instigating turmoil in NJ.
If there isn't enough, they'll make some up, just to justify getting paid for lunch at the deli with an "anonymous" source.
Journalism died with Walter Cronkite, Chet Huntley, and David Brinkley.
Once News Corporation hung out a shingle in America the race to the bottom became the Johnstown Flood.
HYATT™
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Posted: 1/2/2013 9:35 AM

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Hyatt, not original Jet fan, however smarter than most.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 10:09 AM

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Will our next GM at least be given the power to bench Rex if we continue to lose??
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Posted: 1/2/2013 10:31 AM

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Drmtesta wrote: I wonder if Rex could still get the ax if the new GM that comes in convinces Woody?

In any case, Schein is a moron. He is the over exaggeration king and his idiot friend Carlin does nothing but dump on the Jets. I'm sick of both of them.

There is a point about keeping Rex if we were rebuilding. . . I don't think we are rebuilding. I think we are reloading. While many of the fat contracts will go, we will still keep the core of our D. With Rex, we are at a minimum a top 10 D (Number 8 this year without Revis). For that reason, I'm glad we kept him.

We need to completely "rebuild" the offense and make sure ST does a better job. But the D is in pretty good shape. If we had 10% better play on offense, we'd be in the playoffs. We wouldn't go anywhere, but we would be in.  We DON'T need to do what Indy did last year. We need to build the offense!
I agree that the defense is in good shape.  Hard to believe they did as good as they did as a unit with the way the offense performed.  I sure hope Cromartie plays this good when Revis returns, he always seems so much better without Revis for some reason.  We could use more speed/youth at LB, but overall, the D was good enough to go far with an aaverage O.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 10:49 AM

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+1 to the millionth power Hyatt

The news would like to make this out to be the worst season the Jets have ever had. Y2K was the end of the world, fiscal cliff was a fall into the mariana trench and the end of the world was the end of the world. I think it is an insult to call today's news, news. News no likey, no likey at all.

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Posted: 1/2/2013 10:54 AM

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Woody and Rex are getting absolutely killed by the media for not speaking. I don't see it as a big deal. They will not have anything to say. Let them do their business and find a qualified GM. Then they will have something to say. No?
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Posted: 1/2/2013 10:55 AM

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Let us review. Rex Ryan has the worst QB in the NFL under center with more turnovers than any QB in the past 4 years, has a backup QB who fibbed about being a real QB, and still managed to make us competitive enough that we "should" have made the playoffs. Give Rex a middle of the road QB, and we are in the playoffs. We dont need manning or brady, just a QB that can tell Jerseys apart. I really believe they will find out that Sanchez is color blind. A good coach relies on his coordinators to do their job. The only bad Rex I see, is the contrived finger painting nonsensical drival sky falling putrid bull that the newspapers pass as journalism.
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Posted: 1/2/2013 10:59 AM

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Mangini was blasted for saying too little, Rex for saying too much, Mother Theresa for being so saintly, Gandi for being too rebellious, and the Jets for having the same issues that other teams have (although the Jets and Giants have that grotesque bunion on their arse called the NY media, cannot be removed with a scapple lest it spread).
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