Posted: 12/20/2012 10:17 AM
Last edited 12/20/2012 10:24 AM by PolishJetFan
Posted: 12/20/2012 10:24 AM
Have our drafts been that bad? No.2011 Draft - Wilkerson, Kerley, Powell, and Ellis...that draft class elevated itself from a C/C+ after the draft to an A-, IMO, A if Ellis becomes our starting NT.2012 Draft - Coples, Davis, Hill, Bush, and Allen - another C/C+ draft if you evaluated on draft day that now looks like a B to A- depending on Hill's development. * We landed pro bowl caliber talent in back-to-back drafts, IMO, with Wilkerson and Coples.* Kerley is amongst the best #3 WRs in the NFL.* Davis will be our starting MLB beside Harris for years to come* Powell may be our starting RB next year and our 3rd down back for teh foreseeable future.* Allen and Bush may be our Ihedebo and Lowery special teams/sub package key contributers.Add finding Howard, Reuland, and Gates from the last couple drafts sitting on people's practice squads and I'd say we did pretty good.
Posted: 12/20/2012 10:36 AM
Posted: 12/20/2012 10:45 AM
Posted: 12/20/2012 11:10 AM
JetScreamer wrote: The drafts haven't been bad but the lack of picks in 2007, 2009 and 2010 has hurt us as far as depth is concerned. I don't fault trading up in 2007 because we selected Revis and Harris.
Posted: 12/20/2012 11:17 AM
Posted: 12/20/2012 11:50 AM
RIP WIC 2005-2008
Last edited 12/20/2012 11:51 AM by HadronsAtHome
Posted: 12/20/2012 12:15 PM
Seaver wrote: Howard sucks
Posted: 12/20/2012 12:56 PM
PolishJetFan wrote: I keep hearing that ppl want to "clean house" but I totally disagree and here is why....The team has drafted well over the past few seasons under Rex... Yeah i said it!!!Wilkerson- stud and only getting betterCoples- really good now and will likely be a future studGreen and Powell are solid guys and Mcnight is a game breaker who we can utlize in a passing game whenever we develop one. Slauson- solidMclroy- solid backup to possible starter. Hill- Its to early to tellDavis- seems solidThe team has really only missed on Ducass and they keep trying to make thay happen despite no signs of life. I chalk tebow up To Woody. I also hear a lot of ppl compair out drafts to the pats and say that there's is great while ours is crap. Imo thats bc Brady covers up those mistakes. Ya dont have the 31st ranked D past yr without wiffing on some picks. A quality qb is everything now. I remeber last yr the colts lost to the saints 62-0 bc they didnt have a qb, but if you put Brees on the colts and gave painter to the saints, the colts prob win that game, which is just insane to me. Plus now the colts are a strong contender for a playoff after loosing a lot of talent in the offseason with the exception of the qb position. Its unbelievable. Once this team gets a qb and focuses more of its resources on the offensive side of the ball i think it will be in fine shape. It really is a top 10 wr and top 10 qb away from being a serious contender imo. A top 10 rb would be nice too but not essential imo. In that way I would say the sky is far from falling.
Posted: 12/20/2012 2:40 PM
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Posted: 12/20/2012 4:23 PM
Posted: 12/20/2012 4:24 PM
I think the jets have done a good job of drafting ever since Tannenbaum's been at the helm and that goes back to 2006. The problem with Mr T are all those trades where we gave up picks...but I can't fault for trading up for revis, Harris, green. There have been some good UFA as well - devito, bellore, etc.
Had our share of missess, but so has everyone else.
Posted: 12/20/2012 4:41 PM
iangillan wrote:I think the jets have done a good job of drafting ever since Tannenbaum's been at the helm and that goes back to 2006. The problem with Mr T are all those trades where we gave up picks...but I can't fault for trading up for revis, Harris, green. There have been some good UFA as well - devito, bellore, etc. Had our share of missess, but so has everyone else.
Posted: 12/21/2012 9:09 AM
Posted: 12/21/2012 9:54 AM
Last edited 12/21/2012 10:22 AM by Jetman83
Posted: 12/21/2012 9:55 AM
NickSINYC wrote: JetScreamer wrote: The drafts haven't been bad but the lack of picks in 2007, 2009 and 2010 has hurt us as far as depth is concerned. I don't fault trading up in 2007 because we selected Revis and Harris.I started making this point a couple of years ago when I made my feelings known about Sanchez.Tanny went trade up crazy for too many drafts. A trade up should only be done sparingly and only when you are 110% sure you are getting a stud player. When you start missing you kill you team depth and that gets you compounding the problem with bad FA signings and reaches in the draft.
Posted: 12/21/2012 10:17 AM
Jetman55 wrote: How can Wilson be a miss? If you think that, well, I'm glad you're not a talent evaluater.
Posted: 12/21/2012 10:20 AM
Jetman83 wrote: Our drafts have actually been pretty good for the most part, I think. The problem has been that management has not understood the importance of keeping the team together; continuity. But really, come to think of it, most of our key players have stayed, with one CRUCIAL exception.The most important player on the team, by far, the "straw that stirs the drink", the QUARTERBACK, has not been supported. The offensive coordinators and receivers. That's the entire problem, imo. Here's the proof: Our defense this season was very good even without Revis, the best player on that side of the ball at the most important position in our modern pass heavy NFL. Bottom line, the defense was able to withstand the Revis loss, the offense was not able to withstand the Holmes loss. That combined with a poor offensive coordinator and the WR position being a turnstile the last few seasons (different players each year), Sanchez could not develop and/or maintain chemistry with his receivers.That's the reason, sadly, that the Sanchez era is ending. He was never supported by the organization, as unbiased NFL experts have pointed out, and that's a shame. We will never know the kind of QB Sanchez could have developed into for us... (unless the organization ends up keeping him for cap reasons and he gets another shot to start with an improved OC and improved receiving corps). I really think Eli Manning would have suffered the same fate if he was drafted by this organization.
Posted: 12/21/2012 10:24 AM
HadronsAtHome wrote: A lack of picks and a lack of finding some real "steals" in the draft has hurt. We love the star players who are top picks, but most teams are built by drafting well in the middle rounds and the picks haven't been there for the Jets.And while a lot of the guys drafted during the Rex era has been good/solid/OK for the slot they were drafted, the really good teams seem to find players who's produce far greater than what would be expected ... when was the last time the Jets drafted a player who most people thought was a true "steal": some can say Revis at #15, but he was still a first rounder and the doubts about him were mostly related to the lack of being tested by top college QB play which wasn't something he could control ... David Harris was an excellent second rounder, but he was still top relatively high.The Giants seems to find these low draftees/unsigned players who produce most than most 1st rounders.
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