So he is going to look to get paid as he should. He has played really well. This article says he'll be looking for 7-8 mil per and we can't franchise him. 

Will we be able to bring him back? With Cro and Revis, that will be a ton of money in the secondary.

Sucks, but I think he is a goner. He's played really well, and is going to want to get paid! I think he walks, we keep Bell, and possibly draft Laron's replacement. I can't see how we keep him.

He's one year removed from missing 2 consecutive seasons due to injury.  We're making a big assumption that another team feels safe investing that much money in a guy that hasn't played 16 games in a long time (4 years). 

He may want $8 mill/per, and if someone offers it he should definitely take it.  But I think a realistic deal is $5-6mill, which is all I'd offer him (and no more).  You're talking about a guy that needs achilles surgery and has refused to have it back-to-back years and is playing on bad achilles tendons.  I wouldn't want us to mortgage our future with that much risk.

Plus the list of free agnt safeties is beautiful -

Ed Reed
William Moore
Jarious Bryd
Gholdson
Delmas
Laron Landry

Now, Moore, Landry, and Delmas have a lengthy injury history; well, so does Reed I guess.  But I can tell you some of these safeties are going to get a lot less than $8mill...and if we replace Landry with Byrd, Reed, or Moore...it will only improve our coverage...and Moore and Reed still lay the wood.

I don't think another team is gonna offer him $8 mill...but if they do, our fall back options are excellent.

This draft is also LOADED at safety -

Vaccaro S Texas
Rambo S GA
Ried S LSU
Lester S Bama
Jefferson S OU
Elam S Florida
Hall S SC
McDonald S USC

...and there is another kid from Fresno I am forgetting about. 

We should sign and draft a S this spring, IMO, and if Landry goes to the highest bidder, we should still be able to sign and draft a quality safeties.

Jetman55 wrote: He's one year removed from missing 2 consecutive seasons due to injury.  We're making a big assumption that another team feels safe investing that much money in a guy that hasn't played 16 games in a long time (4 years). 

He may want $8 mill/per, and if someone offers it he should definitely take it.  But I think a realistic deal is $5-6mill, which is all I'd offer him (and no more).  You're talking about a guy that needs achilles surgery and has refused to have it back-to-back years and is playing on bad achilles tendons.  I wouldn't want us to mortgage our future with that much risk.

Plus the list of free agnt safeties is beautiful -

Ed Reed
William Moore
Jarious Bryd
Gholdson
Delmas
Laron Landry

Now, Moore, Landry, and Delmas have a lengthy injury history; well, so does Reed I guess.  But I can tell you some of these safeties are going to get a lot less than $8mill...and if we replace Landry with Byrd, Reed, or Moore...it will only improve our coverage...and Moore and Reed still lay the wood.

I don't think another team is gonna offer him $8 mill...but if they do, our fall back options are excellent.

This draft is also LOADED at safety -

Vaccaro S Texas
Rambo S GA
Ried S LSU
Lester S Bama
Jefferson S OU
Elam S Florida
Hall S SC
McDonald S USC

...and there is another kid from Fresno I am forgetting about. 

We should sign and draft a S this spring, IMO, and if Landry goes to the highest bidder, we should still be able to sign and draft a quality safeties.

That makes me feel a bit better. Reed will probably retire, but there are certainly options. What about Antonio Allen and Josh Bush? Will they be ready for prime time next year?

Jetman55 wrote: He's one year removed from missing 2 consecutive seasons due to injury.  We're making a big assumption that another team feels safe investing that much money in a guy that hasn't played 16 games in a long time (4 years). 

He may want $8 mill/per, and if someone offers it he should definitely take it.  But I think a realistic deal is $5-6mill, which is all I'd offer him (and no more).  You're talking about a guy that needs achilles surgery and has refused to have it back-to-back years and is playing on bad achilles tendons.  I wouldn't want us to mortgage our future with that much risk.

Plus the list of free agnt safeties is beautiful -

Ed Reed
William Moore
Jarious Bryd
Gholdson
Delmas
Laron Landry

Now, Moore, Landry, and Delmas have a lengthy injury history; well, so does Reed I guess.  But I can tell you some of these safeties are going to get a lot less than $8mill...and if we replace Landry with Byrd, Reed, or Moore...it will only improve our coverage...and Moore and Reed still lay the wood.

I don't think another team is gonna offer him $8 mill...but if they do, our fall back options are excellent.

This draft is also LOADED at safety -

Vaccaro S Texas
Rambo S GA
Ried S LSU
Lester S Bama
Jefferson S OU
Elam S Florida
Hall S SC
McDonald S USC

...and there is another kid from Fresno I am forgetting about. 

We should sign and draft a S this spring, IMO, and if Landry goes to the highest bidder, we should still be able to sign and draft a quality safeties.

Phillip Thomas from Fresno St., were you really forgetting about him? He's a pick artist and quite the playmaker who can lay the lumber as well. IMO he's a pretty good safety who doesn't make the boneheaded plays that some of the higher ranked safeties make. I see you still put Vacarro above the rest...

Great absolutely great perspective.
Isn't it always the case for the Jets handing out one year contracts?  The players always come to play and light it up.
If Tanny is still here, i'm sure he wont break the bank for this guy.  Give what he deserves accordingly as this guy is playing with an Achilles tendon that should have been addressed a while ago.

Jetman55 wrote: He's one year removed from missing 2 consecutive seasons due to injury.  We're making a big assumption that another team feels safe investing that much money in a guy that hasn't played 16 games in a long time (4 years). 

He may want $8 mill/per, and if someone offers it he should definitely take it.  But I think a realistic deal is $5-6mill, which is all I'd offer him (and no more).  You're talking about a guy that needs achilles surgery and has refused to have it back-to-back years and is playing on bad achilles tendons.  I wouldn't want us to mortgage our future with that much risk.

Plus the list of free agnt safeties is beautiful -

Ed Reed
William Moore
Jarious Bryd
Gholdson
Delmas
Laron Landry

Now, Moore, Landry, and Delmas have a lengthy injury history; well, so does Reed I guess.  But I can tell you some of these safeties are going to get a lot less than $8mill...and if we replace Landry with Byrd, Reed, or Moore...it will only improve our coverage...and Moore and Reed still lay the wood.

I don't think another team is gonna offer him $8 mill...but if they do, our fall back options are excellent.

This draft is also LOADED at safety -

Vaccaro S Texas
Rambo S GA
Ried S LSU
Lester S Bama
Jefferson S OU
Elam S Florida
Hall S SC
McDonald S USC

...and there is another kid from Fresno I am forgetting about. 

We should sign and draft a S this spring, IMO, and if Landry goes to the highest bidder, we should still be able to sign and draft a quality safeties.

Knowing that Revis is going to hold out AGAIN, why don't we trade him for some real good value and keep Landry, Bell , Cro, and draft a corner????

Vacarro isn't my top safety...and you know this...Elam, Lester, and Rambo are amongst my favorites. I just think people are gonna get excited about him after the combine and his pro day. He's better than Griffin, IMO, but closer to Jammer in terms of a prospect - servicable but not elite.

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Knowing that Revis is going to hold out AGAIN, why don't we trade him for some real good value and keep Landry, Bell , Cro, and draft a corner????

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I think the Jet going to seriously consider trading Revis...but not to draft a CB. we have wilson and Cro and they anchor the #3 pass defense in the NFL...so why add a CB?

Jets need 2 OGs, 2 OLBs, 1 or 2 Safeties, a TE, a RB, and a QB. I think the Jets will consider trading him for multiple picks and addressing the above holes. I think Lankster has looked good and they like Trufant (more than me). Trufant's brother is coming out from Washington an I LOVE HIM, but i don't think we'll take him. And yes, all the Trufants are brothers.

Jetman55 wrote:

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Knowing that Revis is going to hold out AGAIN, 

I wonder if he will? 
We are ranked 2nd in pass defense . . . which is awesome by the way. The injury and our good play may reduce his leverage a bit. We were so afraid of losing Revis, but others have stepped up and we are doing pretty well in the secondary. It will be interesting to see what happens now.

Jetman55 wrote: Vacarro isn't my top safety...and you know this...Elam, Lester, and Rambo are amongst my favorites. I just think people are gonna get excited about him after the combine and his pro day. He's better than Griffin, IMO, but closer to Jammer in terms of a prospect - servicable but not elite.

I was just poking fun about Vaccaro as you should've known I was. I actually think people are gonna start talking about Thomas a little bit more come combine time too!

phillip515 wrote:

Jetman55 wrote: Vacarro isn't my top safety...and you know this...Elam, Lester, and Rambo are amongst my favorites. I just think people are gonna get excited about him after the combine and his pro day. He's better than Griffin, IMO, but closer to Jammer in terms of a prospect - servicable but not elite.

I was just poking fun about Vaccaro as you should've known I was. I actually think people are gonna start talking about Thomas a little bit more come combine time too!

I'll never hear the end of the Thomas ommission.  He was up for top DB in the country too and I remembered seeing his name (I never watched him play but I've read a lot about him and abviously saw he was up for top DB in the country).  I don't care what you and HYATT say, there is NO WAY 10 safeties go in the first 2 rds...not with this year's crop of OLBs and o-linemen.  There is gonna be some great value in rds 2 and 3 this year, IMO, at S, RB, and QB when our pick comes up (especially rd 3).  I wouldn't be shocked if we had to choose between Bray, Franklin, Lacy, Taylor, Thomas, Jeffcoat, and Lester with our 3rd rd pick.

Drmtesta wrote:

Jetman55 wrote:

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Knowing that Revis is going to hold out AGAIN, 

I wonder if he will? 
We are ranked 2nd in pass defense . . . which is awesome by the way. The injury and our good play may reduce his leverage a bit. We were so afraid of losing Revis, but others have stepped up and we are doing pretty well in the secondary. It will be interesting to see what happens now.

I don't think he will.  He wants to get in and prove he's been rehabbing hard and is in great shape.  Note, I expect he won't negotiate once the camps start, so if he's here with no contract, kiss him goodbye with nothing in return.  If the Jets are going to allow him to risk his career without a contract extension, they can kiss his butt when it comes to his long term future.  If they were worried about that, he'd have a contract by the end of March.

Like I have been saying, without a contract extension by the draft, Revis is long gone from the NY Jets...so you HAVE to trade him, sign him, or lose him for nothing.

I think Landry's best deal is going to come from the Jets.

With the money we will save by releasing/not resigning Pace,Thomas,Scott,Smith,Greene and possibly Moore and Keller we will have more than enough $$$ to resign Landry and it has to be a contract that protects us due to his heel issue.

Jetman55 wrote:

phillip515 wrote:

Jetman55 wrote: Vacarro isn't my top safety...and you know this...Elam, Lester, and Rambo are amongst my favorites. I just think people are gonna get excited about him after the combine and his pro day. He's better than Griffin, IMO, but closer to Jammer in terms of a prospect - servicable but not elite.

I was just poking fun about Vaccaro as you should've known I was. I actually think people are gonna start talking about Thomas a little bit more come combine time too!

I'll never hear the end of the Thomas ommission.  He was up for top DB in the country too and I remembered seeing his name (I never watched him play but I've read a lot about him and abviously saw he was up for top DB in the country).  I don't care what you and HYATT say, there is NO WAY 10 safeties go in the first 2 rds...not with this year's crop of OLBs and o-linemen.  There is gonna be some great value in rds 2 and 3 this year, IMO, at S, RB, and QB when our pick comes up (especially rd 3).  I wouldn't be shocked if we had to choose between Bray, Franklin, Lacy, Taylor, Thomas, Jeffcoat, and Lester with our 3rd rd pick.

Are you saying that I said that there'll be 10 safeties selected in the 1st 2 rds? B/C I never said that but I will venture to say there might be 2 selected in the 1st rd and maybe another 3 or 4 in the 2nd rd. I will agree of the value in rds 2 & 3 though but I would have to add a position to the 3 that you mentioned that being WR. Lets not forget the OL prospects and a good TE that could slip too.

You know, I love Landry's physicality and attitude, BUT......

I can't see paying him big $$$ for someone who is not so great
in coverage. I think I'd rather see what Josh Bush and Antonio
Allen (do we still have him?) and draft another Safety (maybe
round 2/3).

Maybe we'd have less of an enforcer at SS, but I'd like to see
a little better deep coverage. We could probably put the savings
to good use in FA with all our needs.

jz4nyjets wrote: Knowing that Revis is going to hold out AGAIN, why don't we trade him for some real good value and keep Landry, Bell , Cro, and draft a corner????

Revis holding out would be a blessing. His contract would automatically extend through 2016 for a total of $18 mil.

pologroundsjf wrote: You know, I love Landry's physicality and attitude, BUT......

I can't see paying him big $$$ for someone who is not so great
in coverage. I think I'd rather see what Josh Bush and Antonio
Allen (do we still have him?) and draft another Safety (maybe
round 2/3).

Maybe we'd have less of an enforcer at SS, but I'd like to see
a little better deep coverage. We could probably put the savings
to good use in FA with all our needs.

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