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Will (not should) Rex return as Head Coach in 2013?

Posted: 11/23/2012 7:33 AM

Will (not should) Rex return as Head Coach in 2013? 


Regardless of what you think SHOULD happen, do you think Rex Ryan will return as Jets Head Coach next year?

    Rex return?

  1. Poll closed on 11/30/2012
  2. Yes, it is extremely likely he will return next year: 9 votes
  3. Yes, it is likely he will return: 17 votes
  4. Yes, it is somewhat likely that he will return: 13 votes
  5. No, it is somewhat unlikely that he will return: 5 votes
  6. No, it is unlikely that he will return: 3 votes
  7. No, it is extremely unlikely he will return next year: 4 votes
ROLL TIDE!

Last edited 11/23/2012 7:34 AM by Sarge4tide

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Posted: 11/23/2012 7:49 AM

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He will be back it simply the way the Jets are run and with this year not completed yet he still has not had a losing season. I think that buys him one more year I do think that he will be asked to revamp his staff. Cavanaugh must go along with Fat Tony and Westoff calling it a career.
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Posted: 11/23/2012 8:57 AM

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I hope the hell so he is gone next year. Since day one that he has gotten here, he and tannenbaum have torn this team apart. True enough, 2 straight afc championships should bye him atleast one more year. However; compare the team he had in year one or year two to what he has now and its ridiculious. They have absolutely torn this team apart and they both need to go. Take sanchez, tebow with them along with b scott, pace, thomas, holmes, and about 20-25 other players. Its time to rebuild jets fans, its time!

Last edited 11/23/2012 12:54 PM by jets82

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Posted: 11/23/2012 9:09 AM

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This wont happen, but should happen:
1. Norv Turner will be fired, Woody should go get him for OC.
2. Drop Tanny and hire Bill Polian, the architect of so many great Colts & Bills teams.
3. Drop Tebow - trade a 4th for Matt Flynn and let it be a true QB competetion in the off season between Flynn, Sanchez and McElroy.
4. Drop Bart Scott, Bryan Thomas and Pace - my grandmother is faster.
5. Last but not least, Ryan is NOT a good HC. He is a great defensive coordinator. The problem is you can demote a HC to DC. If you could I would chase Cower.
Cower - HC; Ryan - DC; Turner - OC; Polian - GM

You can only dream!ohlord
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Posted: 11/23/2012 9:21 AM

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I love your thinking and that's work for me. Only thing is, go draft for a qb.

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--- gloryday wrote:

This wont happen, but should happen:
1. Norv Turner will be fired, Woody should go get him for OC.
2. Drop Tanny and hire Bill Polian, the architect of so many great Colts & Bills teams.
3. Drop Tebow - trade a 4th for Matt Flynn and let it be a true QB competetion in the off season between Flynn, Sanchez and McElroy.
4. Drop Bart Scott, Bryan Thomas and Pace - my grandmother is faster.
5. Last but not least, Ryan is NOT a good HC. He is a great defensive coordinator. The problem is you can demote a HC to DC. If you could I would chase Cower.
Cower - HC; Ryan - DC; Turner - OC; Polian - GM

You can only dream!ohlord

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Posted: 11/23/2012 9:43 AM

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Cowher...

Coach Cowher’s record with the Pittsburgh Steelers:

1992 11 - 5 :- lost to Buffalo in the playoffs.

1993    9 - 7 :- lost at Kansas City in the playoffs.

1994 12 - 4 :- lost to San Diego in the AFC Championship game.

1995 11 - 5 :- lost to Dallas in Super Bowl XXX,

1996 10 - 6 :- lost at New England in the playoffs.

1997 11 - 5 :- lost to Denver in the AFC Championship game.

1998    7 - 9 - NO PLAYOFFS

1999    6 - 10 - NO PLAYOFFS

2000    9 - 7 - NO PLAYOFF

2001  10 - 5 :- lost to New England in the AFC Championship game.

2002  10 - 5 - 1 :- lost at Tennessee in the AFC Championship game in overtime.

2003    6 - 10

2004  15 - 1 :- lost to New England in the AFC Championship game.

2005  11 - 5 :- won Super Bowl XL.


Cowher had two AFC champ gams and 1 SuperBowl appearance in his first six years as a HC - is Rex on track for that??? How about the fact that Cowher DID NOT GO TO THE PLAYOFFS THREE STRAIGHT SEASONS and the fans in Pitts wanted him canned at that time. Jets fans always talk about "whoa is me as a Jets fan" and why can't we have a winning organization like Pittsburgh etc....well sometimes those winning organizations have patience and do not succumb to the all to often trend of "immediate gratification"

Rex has NOTHING to do with 40+ years of non-SB football, but frustrated fans can't seem to disentangle past frustrations with current reality. Is he perfect? No. But he has improved as a HC over the past four and still needs to get better (be less loyal to players that need to be benched and cut). But the reality is that he has done things a head coach that NO OTHER HEAD COACH HAS ACCOMPLISHED (2 AFC champs games in four years, 2nd highest winning percentage, create an elite defense when players are actually good - Jets defense in his first two years was better than any Jets defense that I can remember in my lifetime). 

Be careful what you wish for as the next Kotite is always lurking in the coaching ranks...

jets82 wrote: I love your thinking and that's work for me. Only thing is, go draft for a qb.

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--- gloryday wrote:

This wont happen, but should happen:
1. Norv Turner will be fired, Woody should go get him for OC.
2. Drop Tanny and hire Bill Polian, the architect of so many great Colts & Bills teams.
3. Drop Tebow - trade a 4th for Matt Flynn and let it be a true QB competetion in the off season between Flynn, Sanchez and McElroy.
4. Drop Bart Scott, Bryan Thomas and Pace - my grandmother is faster.
5. Last but not least, Ryan is NOT a good HC. He is a great defensive coordinator. The problem is you can demote a HC to DC. If you could I would chase Cower.
Cower - HC; Ryan - DC; Turner - OC; Polian - GM

You can only dream!ohlord

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Last edited 11/23/2012 10:04 AM by jetswillsurvive

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Posted: 11/23/2012 11:25 AM

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Sean Payton is by far the best "free agent" HC available right now on the street.

Bill Cowher inherited a great Steeler team from Chuck Noll. Plus, after his wife passed away, I think he wants to stay close to his daughters in Raleigh ?

Rex will be back in 2013, but several of his Ast. Coaches will not be. (Sparano, Callahan & Westhoff will retire).

When Woody has had enough, he will fire Tannenbaum, then let the new GM hire his own HC. So when Tanny gets the axe, then heads will roll.

Go Jets...Cyborg

Last edited 11/23/2012 11:27 AM by cysporsche

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Posted: 11/23/2012 11:35 AM

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Before you vote in the poll, take a minute to try and think of ONE thing that Rex does really well as a HC. Take your time. It might be hard to find one. I know there will be a reference to the two AFCCC games that he lost, but think about it, what does he actually do well at this exact point in time that would make you say he is a good head coach? Those two good seasons are looking more and more like a fluke than an actuall hard earned accomplishment on his behalf.

Look at Harbaugh of the 49ers. He was doing ok with Alex Smith, but he got a good look at Kaepernick and decided to bench Smith in favor of a QB that he believes has a better chance of winning. Does anybody believe that Rex would have the balls or brains to make such a bold move in an attempt to win a title? The only thing that Rex does better than the premier HC's in this league is talk smack and promise Superbowls that he can't deliver. He is a decent DC, but a very flawed and "not very good" HC.
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Posted: 11/23/2012 11:35 AM

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cysporsche wrote: Sean Payton is by far the best "free agent" HC available right now on the street.

Bill Cowher inherited a great Steeler team from Chuck Noll. Plus, after his wife passed away, I think he wants to stay close to his daughters in Raleigh ?

Rex will be back in 2013, but several of his Ast. Coaches will not be. (Sparano, Callahan & Westhoff will retire).

When Woody has had enough, he will fire Tannenbaum, then let the new GM hire his own HC. So when Tanny gets the axe, then heads will roll.

Go Jets...Cyborg
Callahan has moved on Cy, replaced by  degugliemo DAVE
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Posted: 11/23/2012 11:36 AM

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before the season, it would have been inconceivable to me that rex would not be the coach of the jets in 2013.  even after last year's struggles down the stretch, i thought he was pretty safe.

fast forward a couple of months and i really don't know.  obviously, a lot will depend on how the final 5 games go (all against teams with records as crappy as ours) and what happens with tanny.  i'm always of the belief that a new GM should pick his own head coach.  now it's possible that should tanny be fired, that a new GM may give rex one more year.  i've heard bill polian comment on espn that he thinks rex is a great coach, so if it's someone like him, rex could survive.

but right now, it's a coin toss to me.  i think odds are slightly in his favor that he returns.  but it really can go either way at this point.
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Posted: 11/23/2012 11:44 AM

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I think its well below 50% that Tannenbaum will stay but even with what has happened i think its better than 50/50 that rex will stay. My hope is that Woody is on the phone now with potential GM candidates seeing there interest and getting a feel for whether they would feel comfortable with the current head coach.
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Posted: 11/23/2012 12:01 PM

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Rex Ryan: I expect to coach New York Jets next season



Ryan also puts his competition to shame when it comes to spinning positive.

"I think our offense is improving, I really believe that," Ryan said.


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Posted: 11/23/2012 12:47 PM

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I'd be curious to know the % of defensive plays that Pettine is calling vs. Rex. If I'm not mistaken, last year and this year (albeit to a lesser extent according to Rex) Pettine was calling most of the plays. In the 1st 2 years it was Rex. That was when our D was formidable and aggressive. I do admit that personnel changes have played a part as well, but I see alot more mental errors and bad positioning now.

I would love to see the following people go:

Sparano, Pettine, Cavanaugh, offensive line coach Dave D., B. Scott, Pace, Sanchez, Tebow, K. Wilson, B. Thomas, S. Greene.

Of those, I only expect Cavanaugh, Sparano, Pace and Bart to go.

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Posted: 11/23/2012 12:50 PM

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If I ran the team the answer would be NO.

I voted Yes, it is likely he will return because Woody owns the Jets.


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Posted: 11/23/2012 12:54 PM

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LikeUntoGod wrote:

Rex Ryan: I expect to coach New York Jets next season

Ryan also puts his competition to shame when it comes to spinning positive.

"I think our offense is improving, I really believe that," Ryan said.


Actually, he's right. They are.

One thing was for certain with all of the Blitzing they did, and Brady diving multiple times into the scrum to pick up firsts...they were not using the final 2 quarters as garbage time. They were playing. We played to a stalemate in the 1st, and did outscore them in the 2nd half.  

There were some bright spots.
* The oline for the 2nd week picked it up after a slow start
* Powell is beginning to assert himself in the pass & run game
* As #29 does this, Mark is becoming a better QB...as the games progress; this isn't spin. it's on film.
* With a different dynamic at the RB position, the WR's are also finding open pockets.
* If there was one highlight to me, it was the opening of the offensive game plan & the efficency Mark operated it with.

I will be intrigued to see if they allow Mark to operate from the spread as they did last night.
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Posted: 11/23/2012 12:56 PM

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Woody shoul read this: http://espn.go.com/new-york/nf...t-ways-rex-ryan

Anyone ever hear of going into an important game with a backup QB that has 2 broken ribs and is unable to play? If Sanchez had hurt himself while stuffing his head up Brandon Moore's a$$, Kerley probably would have replaced Sanchez. Not that he would have been worse. I'm pretty sure that he would have kept his head out of Moore's nether-regions before spotting the opposing team 7 points.
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Posted: 11/23/2012 1:11 PM

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I haven't given up on this season. Changes need to be made next year, but this year isn't over by a long shot!
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Posted: 11/23/2012 1:17 PM

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LikeUntoGod wrote:

Rex Ryan: I expect to coach New York Jets next season



Ryan also puts his competition to shame when it comes to spinning positive.

"I think our offense is improving, I really believe that," Ryan said.

I wish I could say the same for sanchez..He consistently makes bad decisions , and his ball security is as atrocious as always.

Last edited 11/23/2012 1:18 PM by DonMaynard

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Posted: 11/23/2012 1:20 PM

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skopko wrote:
LikeUntoGod wrote:

Rex Ryan: I expect to coach New York Jets next season

Ryan also puts his competition to shame when it comes to spinning positive.

"I think our offense is improving, I really believe that," Ryan said.


Actually, he's right. They are.

One thing was for certain with all of the Blitzing they did, and Brady diving multiple times into the scrum to pick up firsts...they were not using the final 2 quarters as garbage time. They were playing. We played to a stalemate in the 1st, and did outscore them in the 2nd half.  

There were some bright spots.
* The oline for the 2nd week picked it up after a slow start
* Powell is beginning to assert himself in the pass & run game
* As #29 does this, Mark is becoming a better QB...as the games progress; this isn't spin. it's on film.
* With a different dynamic at the RB position, the WR's are also finding open pockets.
* If there was one highlight to me, it was the opening of the offensive game plan & the efficency Mark operated it with.

I will be intrigued to see if they allow Mark to operate from the spread as they did last night.
Once they were up by 5 TDs, the Patriots allowed Mark the underneath stuff. Don't be fooled by the relative efficiency of the 2nd half offense last night. The game was out of reach and the Patriots were focused on preventing the big play. They probably figured also that if they let Sanchez throw the ball enough times, he'll eventually make a bad play, especially once he gets in the red zone.
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Posted: 11/23/2012 1:29 PM

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skopko wrote: I haven't given up on this season. Changes need to be made next year, but this year isn't over by a long shot!
With how bad the AFC is, we go 9-7 and sneak into a playoff spot.  Everyone will be whopping it up, and Woody will proclaim that Tanny is the greatest GM ever.

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