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Finally a sustained drive for a TD

Posted: 8/22/2014 9:49 PM

Finally a sustained drive for a TD 


by the starting offense minus Schwartz (dislocated toe). 11-play, 91-yard 1:48 drive

Started off with a horrible throw by Manning that would have been an INT had the defender stayed in bounds.

Beatty had a great block on Coples during the drive.

Eli threw threw one away near the goal line.

Beautiful, absolutely beautiful protection by the Giants offensive line allows Eli Manning 15 yd pass to find Rueben Randle for a touchdown. Jets brought three, Jennings helped Beatty on outside and the Giants score.

Drive done in 2 min offense. Giants first-half stats. Manning 12-of-21, 13 yards, 1 TD. 93.2 QB rating. Cruz had 4 receptions for 61 yards. Randle 2 41 yards TD

That was it for the starters.  They ran 34 plays.  

Connor Hughes:  "Manning, looking better than he has all summer (practice and games) in offense."

Hopefully the fumbles and  near ints will be eliminated and the rhythm established on  that drive will carry over to the likely minimal amount of work the starters will get next week and then into the regular season opener. 


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Posted: 8/22/2014 10:03 PM

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Here is the play by play:

1-10-NYG9(1:53) (Shotgun) E.Manning pass short right to J.Jernigan to NYG 14 for 5 yards (D.Walls).
2-5-NYG14(1:29) (No Huddle, Shotgun) E.Manning pass short right to J.Jernigan to NYG 23 for 9 yards (D.Walls).
1-10-NYG23(1:21) (Shotgun) E.Manning pass short left to V.Cruz to NYG 39 for 16 yards (K.Wilson). Penalty on NYJ-C.Pace, Defensive Holding, declined.
2-10-NYG39(1:05) (Shotgun) E.Manning pass deep right to V.Cruz to NYJ 43 for 18 yards (C.Pryor).
1-10-NYJ43(1:00) (Shotgun) R.Jennings right tackle to NYJ 36 for 7 yards (S.Richardson).
2-3-NYJ36(:38) (Shotgun) E.Manning pass incomplete short left to V.Cruz.
3-3-NYJ36(:33) (Shotgun) E.Manning pass short left to V.Cruz to NYJ 18 for 18 yards (L.Lewis; D.Landry). NYJ-D.Harris was injured during the play.
1-10-NYJ18(:24) (Shotgun) E.Manning pass short left to J.Jernigan to NYJ 10 for 8 yards (L.Lewis).
2-2-NYJ10(:16) (Shotgun) E.Manning pass incomplete short right to V.Cruz.
3-2-NYJ10
(:16) (Shotgun) PENALTY on NYG-B.Mosley, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at NYJ 10 - No Play.
3-7-NYJ15(:11) (Shotgun) E.Manning pass short left to R.Randle for 15 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
B.McManus extra point is GOOD, Center-Z.DeOssie, Holder-S.Weatherford.
NYG 7   NYJ 10,   Plays: 11   Yards: 91   Possession: 1:48.
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Posted: 8/22/2014 11:39 PM

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Eli leads a good 2 minute drive...surprise surprise. Maybe now that Gilbride is gone, we can do this same sort of thing outside 2 minutes?
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Posted: 8/23/2014 1:27 AM

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Is it just me or did the OL seem to play better when Schwartz went down with an injury?  Schwartz has a pretty good resume, but he has looked awful in the preseason--maybe the move to LG isn't working?

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Posted: 8/23/2014 9:36 AM

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RTPGiants wrote: Eli leads a good 2 minute drive...surprise surprise. Maybe now that Gilbride is gone, we can do this same sort of thing outside 2 minutes?
The problem is that the defense tends to sit back in an almost prevent type D in the 2 minute drill, they wont sit like that all game.
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Posted: 8/23/2014 12:38 PM

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a sustained drive. ok it was.
But 2 minute offenses generally are successful in the nfl these days. watch this year how many games are won on last minute drives for a FG or TD.

the odds stacked against the defense by the rules committee and the pace of the offense not letting a defense play anything but a basic defense with the same winded players, play after play give offenses HUGE advantages.

and quite frankly Eli is actually GREAT at this.

we should use a hurry up / two minute offense AT LEAST ONCE A HALF (before the half too).

so what to make from this "sustained drive"....
this is one of elis strengths.
regardless of the unbelievable , almost INT on a 7 yd pass to cruz, that SHOULDVE BEEN THROWN AWAY...doesnt eli know this yet !!! geez.
In any case, more often Eli capitalizes in the hurry up (as do most teams)
Eli was 6 of 8 or 7 of 9 on that drive..the rest of the 1st half...50%...and thats Eli.
i dont know of any way to look at it other than that.
the rest of the 1st half, the offense was not good.

two weeks to go, maybe we're in for a surprise, a good surprise.
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Posted: 8/23/2014 12:43 PM

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I'm not drinking the kool-aid just yet, because they managed to finally score a TD off a 2 minute drill.
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Posted: 8/23/2014 12:49 PM

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No kool aid being served.  Just a bit of happiness to see something good from the starting offense this preseason.
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Posted: 8/23/2014 2:16 PM

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CgkenBMC wrote:
RTPGiants wrote: Eli leads a good 2 minute drive...surprise surprise. Maybe now that Gilbride is gone, we can do this same sort of thing outside 2 minutes?
The problem is that the defense tends to sit back in an almost prevent type D in the 2 minute drill, they wont sit like that all game.
Holy **** someone that gets it. There's a reason why teams don't run the two minute drill as their base offense and it's because with twenty five minutes left in a half the opposing defenses wouldn't be sitting back and taking it. At the end of halves the defense is hoping you'll run out of time by completing passes in bounds so they want you to throw and catch it in front of them in the middle of the field. Keep the O from getting out of bounds and in front of you and 90 plus yard drives are incredibly hard for any offense to pull off.
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Posted: 8/23/2014 3:46 PM

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While I agree with the comments concerning the nature of the 2 min drive, we need to remember that the number of time outs held by the offense plays a huge roll in whether the defense can simply hang back.  In addition, we are seeing the hurry up offense being used more and more during the game.  I am with those that think Eli would be well served if the Giants used the hurry up offense early in the game with the primary goal to get Eli into a rhythm.
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Posted: 8/23/2014 8:23 PM

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callmeSage wrote: Is it just me or did the OL seem to play better when Schwartz went down with an injury?  Schwartz has a pretty good resume, but he has looked awful in the preseason--maybe the move to LG isn't working?

I agree with you here, Sage.   I don't know why Schwartz seems sluggish, but I don't think he was very sharp most of the preseason.   The Giants actually looked more athletic on the OL after he had gone down with that injury.
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Posted: 8/23/2014 11:36 PM

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callmeSage wrote: Is it just me or did the OL seem to play better when Schwartz went down with an injury?  Schwartz has a pretty good resume, but he has looked awful in the preseason--maybe the move to LG isn't working?
Schwartz was good at RG last season, so when Snee retired, i don't know why they didn't move Schwartz back to the right side.  That was a bad coaching decision right there.  Schwartz would of been more effective on the running side of the line.  I'm guessing the only reason they had in at LG was to give Beatty a veteran presence next to him as opposed to musical LG like they did last year.
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:48 AM

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Bingo. Schwartz was brought in to help Beatty. The Giants probably figure Beatty isn't that good but they're stuck with his contract for at least another season. But with Schwartz out for the foreseeable future, the $39 million dollar man will be exposed again. And the $100 million dollar man will be running for his life again...



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callmeSage wrote: Is it just me or did the OL seem to play better when Schwartz went down with an injury?  Schwartz has a pretty good resume, but he has looked awful in the preseason--maybe the move to LG isn't working?
Schwartz was good at RG last season, so when Snee retired, i don't know why they didn't move Schwartz back to the right side.  That was a bad coaching decision right there.  Schwartz would of been more effective on the running side of the line.  I'm guessing the only reason they had in at LG was to give Beatty a veteran presence next to him as opposed to musical LG like they did last year.

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