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Carl Hicks cut.

Posted: 7/25/2014 5:13 PM

Carl Hicks cut. 


This is a very good offensive linemen as I have stated in the past, there will be plenty talent to pick up between training camp and the start of the season. People need to hold their water, and stop arriving at anal conclusions, this is just the start of things.coolcoolcool
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Posted: 7/25/2014 5:26 PM

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He has not been cut, it is mutually agreed he is walking away, meaning unofficialy retired. I would think the Bucs would still hold his rights. Well that is if your talking about Carl Nicks, and not some dude who works at the local car wash Carl Hicks
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Posted: 7/26/2014 8:22 AM

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Getting cut days into training camp equates to a good NFL lineman. Most be more to this methinks.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 3:31 PM

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Probably nothing here, but Reese better have checked this out.
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Posted: 7/26/2014 3:35 PM

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Fromsection314 wrote: Probably nothing here, but Reese better have checked this out.
Carl Nicks retired. What should Reese check out here? 

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Posted: 7/26/2014 10:35 PM

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Thought he was cut.
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Posted: 7/27/2014 11:24 AM

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Mutual agreement to walk away, I believe he left 3 mil on the table when he did in remaining money from his signing bonus. They would still have his rights I believe. When a player does that and says he is not physically up to playing , he is done. The Giants may find another scrap heap minimum deal guy but not this one.

This just illustrates how this team doesn't really plan ahead and tries to milk too much out of veterans sometimes. They were losing DD, Boothe and most likely Snee, more than 1 OL was needed to be brought in with the draft IMO. Biggest need this offseason was not WR, especially with the depth in the draft. Although Martin might have been a bit of a reach he should have been the choice, just like Pugh was......how did that work out?

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Posted: 7/27/2014 12:13 PM

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Nick's retirement proves the team mismanaged the draft? I fail to see the connection.


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Mutual agreement to walk away, I believe he left 3 mil on the table when he did in remaining money from his signing bonus. They would still have his rights I believe. When a player does that and says he is not physically up to playing , he is done. The Giants may find another scrap heap minimum deal guy but not this one.

This just illustrates how this team doesn't really plan ahead and tries to milk too much out of veterans sometimes. They were losing DD, Boothe and most likely Snee, more than 1 OL was needed to be brought in with the draft IMO. Biggest need this offseason was not WR, especially with the depth in the draft. Although Martin might have been a bit of a reach he should have been the choice, just like Pugh was......how did that work out?




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Posted: 7/28/2014 12:36 AM

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Being in denial about Snee does....he has been either bad, injured or both, playing substandard. what thoughts did they have? a resurrected career? He was not going to contribute this year. you have Mosley and Brewer question marks entering their 3rd and 4th years ,Brown and Jerry on one year deals, where is the future? Pugh and Beatty are signed long term and now Schwartz that is what I'm saying.
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Posted: 7/28/2014 7:14 AM

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giant1156 wrote: Being in denial about Snee does....he has been either bad, injured or both, playing substandard. what thoughts did they have? a resurrected career? He was not going to contribute this year. you have Mosley and Brewer question marks entering their 3rd and 4th years ,Brown and Jerry on one year deals, where is the future? Pugh and Beatty are signed long term and now Schwartz that is what I'm saying.
I don't know if you can blame the FO for injuries.  Snee's hip was the major concern last year.  It was fixed and there was every reason to believe he could play again.  After all it is not unusual to have OL play well into their 30's.  The elbow was this year's concern and he had to retire.  while I would agree that Brewer is a major question mark, Mosley has a higher upside and was held back by season ending injuries in previous seasons. 

Would you really want to give Brown and Jerry more than 1 year contracts?  Much better to see how they work out on the field and in the lockerroom.
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Posted: 7/28/2014 10:22 AM

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I think Hicks has seen better days. The Bucs overpaid for a very good player who never could stay on
the field.

The Giants should stay away. He has gotten a very big pay day and I doubt he still has the 'eye of the tiger'
or would be willing to play for mininium money. There is a lesson here. High cost FA can be a major problem.
Also paid too much for a guard. I hope his story isn't going to be the Beatty story. Overpaid and underperforming.

The best FA signings are the ones that gets a player before he peaks.

I think the Giant G position will be OK this year. Not so sure about the LT's.

Last edited 7/28/2014 10:24 AM by Giantjohnny2

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Posted: 7/28/2014 10:28 PM

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No I would not have given them longer contracts at all. Snee has been a question mark for the last 2 or 3 years, remember when he talked about retiring? The point is there were multiple issues along the line and alot of us thought or hoped they would draft 2 players to have for a few years- together. Build some stability and some cohesiveness maybe. Combine that with the uncertainty of Beatty coming back from a severe injury.... What if he can't?
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Posted: 7/29/2014 3:27 AM

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If memory serves Nicks was one of a few players last year who suffered a serious staph infection (another being former Giant Lawrence Tynes).

Considering the effect it had on Tynes I'd imagine Nicks is a shell of his former self both in terms of size and strength. He probably figured he would never return to even close to the level he once was at.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 1:41 PM

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giant1156 wrote: Being in denial about Snee does....he has been either bad, injured or both, playing substandard. what thoughts did they have? a resurrected career? He was not going to contribute this year. you have Mosley and Brewer question marks entering their 3rd and 4th years ,Brown and Jerry on one year deals, where is the future? Pugh and Beatty are signed long term and now Schwartz that is what I'm saying.
There is also Walton and Richburg to handle the center spot.

So essentially you are saying that 4/5 of the line is covered long term.

Obviously whether or not Beatty bounces back is a major factor, but assuming he does, then what is the question regarding looking to the future?  If Beatty has a solid season, then there is only one OL spot that needs to be solidified next year.
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