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NGT: Kaepernick gets 6-year, $126 million extenison

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Posted: 6/4/2014 8:27 PM

NGT: Kaepernick gets 6-year, $126 million extenison 


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Posted: 6/4/2014 10:25 PM

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At some point teams are going to wise up than you cannot pay good but not great QB's 20 million per.   The Ravens got about $.20/dollar last year with Flacco, and I have no idea why the Bears think Jay Cutler is worth that much.  And the Bills had to eat that Ryan Fitzpatrick contract, which I think finally came off the books this year. 

Hell, even our cap is somewhat stymied by Manning's contract.
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Posted: 6/4/2014 11:33 PM

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So much for catching Seattle.
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Posted: 6/5/2014 7:34 AM

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And this is how the NFL keeps itself watered down. Now the 49ers have to pay all that money to their quarterback, who is good but not great. That will prevent then from keeping good solid players at other positions. And because he's a mobile quarterback they'll figure they don't need a good offensive line to protect for him as he can make things happen, and that'll put even more pressure on him and leave him more open to injuries. But, he's getting paid which is all that he probably cares about.
I really do not like the way the NFL has gone in the last 10 years and where I can see it going. I long for the NFL of my youth.

Good teams rely on their stars,
Great teams rely on each other.

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Posted: 6/5/2014 9:21 AM

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Welcome to the beginning of cap hell!!!
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Posted: 6/5/2014 9:47 AM

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I wonder if we have any economists on the board who can talk more about the implications of a big money QB?

One way to think about this:
1. There are a limited number of very good or great QBs in the league.
2. You must bank around 20MM per year for the right to keep one of these QBs (roughly 15% of the salary cap).
3. You must have one of these QBs in order to compete for a championship.

So, the teams with good QBs have to work with $113MM in cap space to put together the rest of their teams (minus the QB position). All other teams get $133MM to put together a complete roster (including the QB position).

Does this mean championships will be won from now on by teams with good young (cheap) QBs? Are teams with good veteran QBs effectively blocking themselves from championship contention by competing with a 12 - 15% salary cap disadvantage?

Overthecap broke down the percentage of cap space each SB winning QB occupied. This year, Russell Wilson occupied less than 1% of Seattle's cap.

Year

Player

% Cap (based on APY)

2012

Flacco

3.73%

2011

E. Manning

13.54%

2010

Rodgers

9.85%

2009

Brees

8.13%

2008

Roethlisberger

12.64%

2007

E. Manning

6.50%

2006

P. Manning

13.73%

2005

Roethlisberger

3.86%

2004

Brady

7.45%

2003

Brady

8.00%

2002

Johnson

7.88%

2001

Brady

0.43%

2000

Dilfer

1.61%

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Posted: 6/5/2014 12:23 PM

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Colin Kaepernick's new contract is a year-to-year deal.
Armchair GMs that spent Wednesday bashing the 49ers for the "$126 million" deal with "$61 million guaranteed" need to click the link below. Essentially, the Niners can cut Kaepernick before April 1 of each year without owing any more money -- so the actual guarantee is just $13 million ($12.3M signing bonus, $645K '14 base salary, $100K '14 workout bonus). There is also a de-escalator in the contract that can only be halted if Kaepernick takes the team to the Super Bowl or he is named first- or second-team All-Pro. A source tells Pro Football Talk that San Francisco is "thrilled" with the pact.

For 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and part of 2018, the base salaries are guaranteed only for injury.  On April 1 of each year, the guarantees convert from injury only to fully guaranteed.  That gives the 49ers the ability to decide, in any given year, to move on from Kaepernick.  And with the deadline for the conversion of the guarantee coming on April 1, the 49ers can squat on his rights until several weeks after the start of free agency, making it harder for him to get paid elsewhere.

The base salary for 2015 is $12.4 million, guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2015.

For 2016, the base salary is $13.9 million, guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2016.

For 2017, the base salary is $16.5 million, guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2017.

For 2018, the base salary is $17 million, $5.2 million of which is guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2018.

The non-guaranteed base salary for 2019 is $18.8 million, and the non-guaranteed base salary for 2020 is $21 million.



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Last edited 6/5/2014 12:26 PM by GordonG

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Posted: 6/5/2014 11:04 PM

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Well Doc.......there is a clear advantage to teams that have the ability to draft that QB which has the immediate ability to take them deep into the playoffs.   In their early years.....it certainly helps provide a given team (such as Seattle and San Fran pre-Kap-contract) some flexibility in putting together the rest of their roster around their 'cheap' QB.    


The NFL is adjusting to this as the new NFL CBA works itself into the annual planning.   


Personally......I think Kap does not meet that value.   I think he's more of a $10-15 Million/year QB.   I don't think he's a poor QB.....but I'm not sure he's a guy that can consistently run a more pass-heavy oriented offense.   I actually think Russ Wilson has more versatility than Kap.....but he's just a little shorter.   


The QB has always been a pivotal position.   Will always be.
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Posted: 6/6/2014 10:13 AM

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JeffH, apparently the Niners agree with you.  Kaepernick will average about 14mm a year for the first 4 years of his contract.
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Posted: 6/6/2014 3:13 PM

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cut, disect it anyway you want, if he is qb of the 49ers for 6 yrs he is getting 126M.

is he a 20 million dollar per year qb ??
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Posted: 6/6/2014 4:58 PM

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You may not need a cheap quarterback but you need some kind of cheap player to rise up and become a superstar like Victor Cruz.
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Posted: 6/6/2014 6:04 PM

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56801, contracts rarely reach their max.  The key with this contract is that it is guaranteed only against injury on a year to year basis.  It is designed to be a 4 year contract.  At that point there will be and extension or he will be cut/traded.  I see it as a roughly 6 0mm contract if he stays healthy and if he performs at a very high level.  Given his propensity to run, he will be lucky to get through 4 years.  Regardless, he is a very rich man after the first year.
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