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Posted: 4/2/2014 4:49 PM

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The New Big Blue Wrecking Crew 4 Aces Pass Rush package....STOP THIS NFC EAST>>>>>>
JPP Hankins Donald Moore <<<<<<I want to see this.
That would be declared illegal by the NFL after they blow up RG3, Romo and whatever crap QB the Eagles field. That would be one hell of a blitz package dline. Speed KILLS! Aaron DOnald is the fastest DT I have ever seen. He can move like a bullet and hit like a truck. This is what you want chasing down the scrambling QB's of the NFL. Donald can go sideline to sideline and will run down RG3 into the ground and blow him up. We have Beason,Will Hill, Stevie Brown, Rolle in the middle and DRC and Prince backing it all up.
NEW BIG BLUE WRECKING CREW TIME

With DRC and Prince @ CB, we have really nice CB depth with Thurmond and Rolle and DRC are tight and Antrel will get DRC fired up and DRC will be a shut down corner. Prince will kick *** too.  Will Hill, Stevie Brown, Antrell Rolle, Jon Beason we have a very nice defense and group of players to work with. Kiwi, Patterson, etc. I hope we find some lower tier 5th-UFA gems that can come in and contribute and make some big tackles.



New Offense

Then we get OL, WR, TE  in the 2nd or 3rd and 4th and we could be in good shape. We can get an excellent OG/OT/C with our 2 and 3. We can get a good C Bryan Stork maybe in the 5th. We have an extra 5th. We can do something with that pick.

Nice NEW offensive line to build around Schwartz and Pugh. Our medical staff checked out Walton and if he regqains his prior form we have something to build on.
We draft 2 out of this group of below draft picks and our offensive line is looking good.
Instead of Donald if Mathews is there I'd take him and then go BPA of WR/OL/DL/TE .
If Lewan or Zmartin the man and If we get Donald then I like the top OT/OG and a C from the tiers lower with guys that played OT and can come in and can be good OG and an OT if needed. Like a versatile OT/OG type like a Bittonio for instance.
These are some of the top players the Giants will have available. We need the TWO BPA or three and then our Oline is looking much better.
Mathews/Lewan/ZMartin/Xavier Suafilo/MMartin/Yankey/Gabe Jackson/Bittonio/Stork and a bunch of other nice picks as possibilities.
These are top 5 round guys.
There will Be lots of lower tier and UFA gems to be found by Coughlin, Reese and Company. I hope our scouts did their homework. COughlin was in his usual seat at the combine, I hope he spotted some players.
We need players that can contribute and come right in and play. We are rebuilding and so far FA is an A+. We need an A+ in the draft now.
GO GIANTS!
IN REESE WE TRUST!

We are building a nice new team so far this off season I am really liking it so far. We can nail this draft and we have the makings of a good team.

IN REESE WE TRUST!

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Posted: 4/2/2014 6:57 PM

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I'm glad you have a passion for Donald, but what happens when he isn't the pick. Can you except that??

ALL IN, ALL THE TIME!!

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Posted: 4/2/2014 7:04 PM

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I just hope We are going to get a good player with our #1 pick. If the Giants think they have a better player than DOnald that can come in and help us win another SB then that is all I need.
Whomever it is has to come in and start from day 1. I think AD can do that.

Can Evans come in from day 1 and play like a #1. I am just not sure evans is #1 material. Sammy Watkins has the makings of a true #1 WR, not sure about Evans. I think he is more of a 2/1 guy. But we shall see.

Maybe we take Lewan or even Zach Martin. We need OL help in a big way. I would be happy with either of them. Only player I am scared of is Ebron. I am not sold on him. I defer to the giants Front office to know better and if they like OL with #1 that works for me too.
NYMETS05 wrote: I'm glad you have a passion for Donald, but what happens when he isn't the pick. Can you except that??

IN REESE WE TRUST!

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Posted: 4/2/2014 7:21 PM

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I'll be very happy with Ebron, Evans, Lewan or Martin. 

But I WANT Aaron Donald!

Guy is going to be a beast.  He can rush the passer from the inside and outside.  He may be short, but he was a dominating college football defender.  He was dominating at the Senior Bowl.  

In the second round we can get a WR like Donte Moncrief, who is flying under the radar in mock drafts. This guy is going to be a stud.  Third round, hopefully TE CJ Fiedorowicz and sign Jermichael Finley and we are set offensively.  Draft a C and RB along with a DL or LBer and our team is ready to go!

Take a look at this!

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Posted: 4/2/2014 7:50 PM

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NYGIANTSSB46 wrote: I just hope We are going to get a good player with our #1 pick. If the Giants think they have a better player than DOnald that can come in and help us win another SB then that is all I need.
Whomever it is has to come in and start from day 1. I think AD can do that.

Can Evans come in from day 1 and play like a #1. I am just not sure evans is #1 material. Sammy Watkins has the makings of a true #1 WR, not sure about Evans. I think he is more of a 2/1 guy. But we shall see.

Maybe we take Lewan or even Zach Martin. We need OL help in a big way. I would be happy with either of them. Only player I am scared of is Ebron. I am not sold on him. I defer to the giants Front office to know better and if they like OL with #1 that works for me too.
NYMETS05 wrote: I'm glad you have a passion for Donald, but what happens when he isn't the pick. Can you except that??
Trust me, I'm all you on wanting a great player at #12. With the way free agency has gone down, the draft is wide open in my opinion. I feel we need more help on the offensive side of the ball, but would be happy if we got a stud on the d-line

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Posted: 4/2/2014 7:53 PM

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I like Donald #1 if Mathews doesn't drop which is unlikely anyway. He is not really that short. He is 6'1" and 285. That is on par with your typical speed rush DT like a Sapp or randle who both played at that weight and height. I think Sapp played around 300 tops. AD can easily add 10-15 lbs.  I see him in that Sapp and Randle mold. His first step is ridiculous. He is so fast. Great motor. He can bull rush or use his polished moves. He outplayed all OT's athe senoir bowl. He's going to be a force to be reckoned with. I want him in BLUE.

Also. I believe this chart is wrong DOnald did even better he had 11 sacks and 28.5 tackles for loss plus 142 yards for loss.
http://www.cfbstats.com/2013/player/545/1033607/ta ckleforloss/split.html
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/aaron- donald-1.html
EddieNYG wrote: I'll be very happy with Ebron, Evans, Lewan or Martin. 

But I WANT Aaron Donald!

Guy is going to be a beast.  He can rush the passer from the inside and outside.  He may be short, but he was a dominating college football defender.  He was dominating at the Senior Bowl.  

In the second round we can get a WR like Donte Moncrief, who is flying under the radar in mock drafts. This guy is going to be a stud.  Third round, hopefully TE CJ Fiedorowicz and sign Jermichael Finley and we are set offensively.  Draft a C and RB along with a DL or LBer and our team is ready to go!

Take a look at this!


IN REESE WE TRUST!

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Posted: 4/2/2014 8:46 PM

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I get the feeling the Rams, who are on the verge of becoming a significant NFC power, will go OL with one of their two first round picks.

Could you imagine though if they drafted Clowney at #2 and then drafted Donald? Talk about NASCAR with Chris Long and Robert Smith.

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Posted: 4/2/2014 9:18 PM

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NYGIANTSSB46 wrote: The New Big Blue Wrecking Crew 4 Aces Pass Rush package....STOP THIS NFC EAST>>>>>>
JPP Hankins Donald Moore <<<<<<I want to see this.
That would be declared illegal by the NFL after they blow up RG3, Romo and whatever crap QB the Eagles field. That would be one hell of a blitz package dline. Speed KILLS! Aaron DOnald is the fastest DT I have ever seen. He can move like a bullet and hit like a truck. This is what you want chasing down the scrambling QB's of the NFL. Donald can go sideline to sideline and will run down RG3 into the gound and blow him up. We have Beason,Will Hill, Stevie Brown, Rolle in the middle and DRC and Prince backing it all up.
NEW BIG BLUE WRECKING CREW TIME

With DRC and Prince @ CB, we have really nice CB depth with Thurmond and Rolle and DRC are tight and Antrel will get DRC fired up and DRC will be a shut down corner. Prince will kick *** too.  Will Hill, Stevie Brown, Antrell Rolle, Jon Beason we have a very nice defense and group of players to work with. Kiwi, Patterson, etc. I hope we find some lower tier 5th-UFA gems that can come in and contribute and make some big tackles.



New Offense

Then we get OL, WR, TE  in the 2nd or 3rd and 4th and we could be in good shape. We can get an excellent OG/OT/C with our 2 and 3. We can get a good C Bryan Stork maybe in the 5th. We have an extra 5th. We can do something with that pick.

Nice NEW offensive line to build around Schwartz and Pugh. Our medical staff checked out Walton and if he regqains his prior form we have something to build on.
We draft 2 out of this group of below draft picks and our offensive line is looking good.
Instead of Donald if Mathews is there I'd take him and then go BPA of WR/OL/DL/TE .
If Lewan or Zmartin the man and If we get Donald then I like the top OT/OG and a C from the tiers lower with guys that played OT and can come in and can be good OG and an OT if needed. Like a versatile OT/OG type like a Bittonio for instance.
These are some of the top players the Giants will have available. We need the TWO BPA or three and then our Oline is looking much better.
Mathews/Lewan/ZMartin/Xavier Suafilo/MMartin/Yankey/Gabe Jackson/Bittonio/Stork and a bunch of other nice picks as possibilities.
These are top 5 round guys.
There will Be lots of lower tier and UFA gems to be found by Coughlin, Reese and Company. I hope our scouts did their homework. COughlin was in his usual seat at the combine, I hope he spotted some players.
We need players that can contribute and come right in and play. We are rebuilding and so far FA is an A+. We need an A+ in the draft now.
GO GIANTS!
IN REESE WE TRUST!

We are building a nice new team so far this off season
Don`t want to burst your bubble but most if not all of the mock drafts I`ve seen have the Giants selecting either Ebron, Lewan or Evans with their first pick, I saw one that had them going with Mathews which is fine by me because the Giants are in need of improvement in each of those areas. If we are ging to talk defense I say the LB position right now seems to be the weakest link in the Giants defense and not the DL.
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http://walterfootball.com/draft2014.php
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft

I have seen many mocks having us taking Aaron DOnald. Also I do not care about mocks. I know  the Giants are considering taking Donald, He certainly is in the mix. I like and prefer Aaron Donald as he is a rare talented DT pass rusher and the Giants like pass rushers. He may be the pick he may not. But if we can get pass rush from the DT position that is nice to have with JPP and Moore etc rushing from the DE position.

BigBluePR wrote:
NYGIANTSSB46 wrote: The New Big Blue Wrecking Crew 4 Aces Pass Rush package....STOP THIS NFC EAST>>>>>>
JPP Hankins Donald Moore <<<<<<I want to see this.
That would be declared illegal by the NFL after they blow up RG3, Romo and whatever crap QB the Eagles field. That would be one hell of a blitz package dline. Speed KILLS! Aaron DOnald is the fastest DT I have ever seen. He can move like a bullet and hit like a truck. This is what you want chasing down the scrambling QB's of the NFL. Donald can go sideline to sideline and will run down RG3 into the gound and blow him up. We have Beason,Will Hill, Stevie Brown, Rolle in the middle and DRC and Prince backing it all up.
NEW BIG BLUE WRECKING CREW TIME

With DRC and Prince @ CB, we have really nice CB depth with Thurmond and Rolle and DRC are tight and Antrel will get DRC fired up and DRC will be a shut down corner. Prince will kick *** too.  Will Hill, Stevie Brown, Antrell Rolle, Jon Beason we have a very nice defense and group of players to work with. Kiwi, Patterson, etc. I hope we find some lower tier 5th-UFA gems that can come in and contribute and make some big tackles.



New Offense

Then we get OL, WR, TE  in the 2nd or 3rd and 4th and we could be in good shape. We can get an excellent OG/OT/C with our 2 and 3. We can get a good C Bryan Stork maybe in the 5th. We have an extra 5th. We can do something with that pick.

Nice NEW offensive line to build around Schwartz and Pugh. Our medical staff checked out Walton and if he regqains his prior form we have something to build on.
We draft 2 out of this group of below draft picks and our offensive line is looking good.
Instead of Donald if Mathews is there I'd take him and then go BPA of WR/OL/DL/TE .
If Lewan or Zmartin the man and If we get Donald then I like the top OT/OG and a C from the tiers lower with guys that played OT and can come in and can be good OG and an OT if needed. Like a versatile OT/OG type like a Bittonio for instance.
These are some of the top players the Giants will have available. We need the TWO BPA or three and then our Oline is looking much better.
Mathews/Lewan/ZMartin/Xavier Suafilo/MMartin/Yankey/Gabe Jackson/Bittonio/Stork and a bunch of other nice picks as possibilities.
These are top 5 round guys.
There will Be lots of lower tier and UFA gems to be found by Coughlin, Reese and Company. I hope our scouts did their homework. COughlin was in his usual seat at the combine, I hope he spotted some players.
We need players that can contribute and come right in and play. We are rebuilding and so far FA is an A+. We need an A+ in the draft now.
GO GIANTS!
IN REESE WE TRUST!

We are building a nice new team so far this off season
Don`t want to burst your bubble but most if not all of the mock drafts I`ve seen have the Giants selecting either Ebron, Lewan or Evans with their first pick, I saw one that had them going with Mathews which is fine by me because the Giants are in need of improvement in each of those areas. If we are ging to talk defense I say the LB position right now seems to be the weakest link in the Giants defense and not the DL.

IN REESE WE TRUST!
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Posted: 4/3/2014 11:26 AM

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NYGIANTSSB46 wrote: http://walterfootball.com/draft2014.php
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft

I have seen many mocks having us taking Aaron DOnald. Also I do not care about mocks. I know  the Giants are considering taking Donald, He certainly is in the mix. I like and prefer Aaron Donald as he is a rare talented DT pass rusher and the Giants like pass rushers. He may be the pick he may not. But if we can get pass rush from the DT position that is nice to have with JPP and Moore etc rushing from the DE position.

BigBluePR wrote:
NYGIANTSSB46 wrote: The New Big Blue Wrecking Crew 4 Aces Pass Rush package....STOP THIS NFC EAST>>>>>>
JPP Hankins Donald Moore <<<<<<I want to see this.
That would be declared illegal by the NFL after they blow up RG3, Romo and whatever crap QB the Eagles field. That would be one hell of a blitz package dline. Speed KILLS! Aaron DOnald is the fastest DT I have ever seen. He can move like a bullet and hit like a truck. This is what you want chasing down the scrambling QB's of the NFL. Donald can go sideline to sideline and will run down RG3 into the gound and blow him up. We have Beason,Will Hill, Stevie Brown, Rolle in the middle and DRC and Prince backing it all up.
NEW BIG BLUE WRECKING CREW TIME

With DRC and Prince @ CB, we have really nice CB depth with Thurmond and Rolle and DRC are tight and Antrel will get DRC fired up and DRC will be a shut down corner. Prince will kick *** too.  Will Hill, Stevie Brown, Antrell Rolle, Jon Beason we have a very nice defense and group of players to work with. Kiwi, Patterson, etc. I hope we find some lower tier 5th-UFA gems that can come in and contribute and make some big tackles.



New Offense

Then we get OL, WR, TE  in the 2nd or 3rd and 4th and we could be in good shape. We can get an excellent OG/OT/C with our 2 and 3. We can get a good C Bryan Stork maybe in the 5th. We have an extra 5th. We can do something with that pick.

Nice NEW offensive line to build around Schwartz and Pugh. Our medical staff checked out Walton and if he regqains his prior form we have something to build on.
We draft 2 out of this group of below draft picks and our offensive line is looking good.
Instead of Donald if Mathews is there I'd take him and then go BPA of WR/OL/DL/TE .
If Lewan or Zmartin the man and If we get Donald then I like the top OT/OG and a C from the tiers lower with guys that played OT and can come in and can be good OG and an OT if needed. Like a versatile OT/OG type like a Bittonio for instance.
These are some of the top players the Giants will have available. We need the TWO BPA or three and then our Oline is looking much better.
Mathews/Lewan/ZMartin/Xavier Suafilo/MMartin/Yankey/Gabe Jackson/Bittonio/Stork and a bunch of other nice picks as possibilities.
These are top 5 round guys.
There will Be lots of lower tier and UFA gems to be found by Coughlin, Reese and Company. I hope our scouts did their homework. COughlin was in his usual seat at the combine, I hope he spotted some players.
We need players that can contribute and come right in and play. We are rebuilding and so far FA is an A+. We need an A+ in the draft now.
GO GIANTS!
IN REESE WE TRUST!

We are building a nice new team so far this off season
Don`t want to burst your bubble but most if not all of the mock drafts I`ve seen have the Giants selecting either Ebron, Lewan or Evans with their first pick, I saw one that had them going with Mathews which is fine by me because the Giants are in need of improvement in each of those areas. If we are ging to talk defense I say the LB position right now seems to be the weakest link in the Giants defense and not the DL.
Agreed mock drafts mean squat but they give us what a glimpse of what may be, any quality pass rushers in the later rounds? I saw a mock draft that had the Giants taking Kyle Van Noy LB out of BYU and that to me makes more sense than a DT because like I said before the LB`s are the weak spot on the Giants defense.
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Posted: 4/3/2014 7:56 PM

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Instead of Donald we can go Offense and then go Defense in the second with picks like Hageman, Truitt, Chrighton etc who have been projected into the late first or second.
As far as DOnald vs. our Oline. We do have to go Oline early and often but People are forgetting we lost Linval Joseph and Tuck. That will have an impact and defensive line and especially pass rush and dt is something to consider. LJ was a loss for sure. We have JPP and Moore, now might be the time to add another young talent to those guys and build something for the future. JPP, Hankins, Donald and Moore would be a hell of a pass rush. Aaron DOnald is a Rare talent, IF donald can be 3/4 of Sapp or Randle you do it in a NY minute. That is the question. Is he the next Warren Saap or John Randle. I'd hate it if we pass on him and he is real good playing for the cowboys.......that would sting badly for a long time.
BigBluePR wrote:
NYGIANTSSB46 wrote: http://walterfootball.com/draft2014.php
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft

I have seen many mocks having us taking Aaron DOnald. Also I do not care about mocks. I know  the Giants are considering taking Donald, He certainly is in the mix. I like and prefer Aaron Donald as he is a rare talented DT pass rusher and the Giants like pass rushers. He may be the pick he may not. But if we can get pass rush from the DT position that is nice to have with JPP and Moore etc rushing from the DE position.

BigBluePR wrote:
NYGIANTSSB46 wrote: The New Big Blue Wrecking Crew 4 Aces Pass Rush package....STOP THIS NFC EAST>>>>>>
JPP Hankins Donald Moore <<<<<<I want to see this.
That would be declared illegal by the NFL after they blow up RG3, Romo and whatever crap QB the Eagles field. That would be one hell of a blitz package dline. Speed KILLS! Aaron DOnald is the fastest DT I have ever seen. He can move like a bullet and hit like a truck. This is what you want chasing down the scrambling QB's of the NFL. Donald can go sideline to sideline and will run down RG3 into the gound and blow him up. We have Beason,Will Hill, Stevie Brown, Rolle in the middle and DRC and Prince backing it all up.
NEW BIG BLUE WRECKING CREW TIME

With DRC and Prince @ CB, we have really nice CB depth with Thurmond and Rolle and DRC are tight and Antrel will get DRC fired up and DRC will be a shut down corner. Prince will kick *** too.  Will Hill, Stevie Brown, Antrell Rolle, Jon Beason we have a very nice defense and group of players to work with. Kiwi, Patterson, etc. I hope we find some lower tier 5th-UFA gems that can come in and contribute and make some big tackles.



New Offense

Then we get OL, WR, TE  in the 2nd or 3rd and 4th and we could be in good shape. We can get an excellent OG/OT/C with our 2 and 3. We can get a good C Bryan Stork maybe in the 5th. We have an extra 5th. We can do something with that pick.

Nice NEW offensive line to build around Schwartz and Pugh. Our medical staff checked out Walton and if he regqains his prior form we have something to build on.
We draft 2 out of this group of below draft picks and our offensive line is looking good.
Instead of Donald if Mathews is there I'd take him and then go BPA of WR/OL/DL/TE .
If Lewan or Zmartin the man and If we get Donald then I like the top OT/OG and a C from the tiers lower with guys that played OT and can come in and can be good OG and an OT if needed. Like a versatile OT/OG type like a Bittonio for instance.
These are some of the top players the Giants will have available. We need the TWO BPA or three and then our Oline is looking much better.
Mathews/Lewan/ZMartin/Xavier Suafilo/MMartin/Yankey/Gabe Jackson/Bittonio/Stork and a bunch of other nice picks as possibilities.
These are top 5 round guys.
There will Be lots of lower tier and UFA gems to be found by Coughlin, Reese and Company. I hope our scouts did their homework. COughlin was in his usual seat at the combine, I hope he spotted some players.
We need players that can contribute and come right in and play. We are rebuilding and so far FA is an A+. We need an A+ in the draft now.
GO GIANTS!
IN REESE WE TRUST!

We are building a nice new team so far this off season
Don`t want to burst your bubble but most if not all of the mock drafts I`ve seen have the Giants selecting either Ebron, Lewan or Evans with their first pick, I saw one that had them going with Mathews which is fine by me because the Giants are in need of improvement in each of those areas. If we are ging to talk defense I say the LB position right now seems to be the weakest link in the Giants defense and not the DL.
Agreed mock drafts mean squat but they give us what a glimpse of what may be, any quality pass rushers in the later rounds? I saw a mock draft that had the Giants taking Kyle Van Noy LB out of BYU and that to me makes more sense than a DT because like I said before the LB`s are the weak spot on the Giants defense.

IN REESE WE TRUST!

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Quick....

Name the top 10 3-technique DTs in the last 20 years.
You cant because there is no top 10.
There may not even be a top 5.

There are prospects who fit the bill every offseason.  They tend to go nowhere fast.

I like the kid.  The odds are stacked against him.  If he were to make it to the Pro Bowl, he will become perhaps only the 3rd or 4th in the last 20 years to make it as that type of DTackle.

And no I dont give a crap about his size.  It's the skillset.  It's a hard translation into the pros.  But if he makes it, he will be a rare....extremely rare player.  Perhaps the rarest type of player of all.  The successful pass rushing DT.

Frankly, I dont have a preference.  We've seen a half dozen names since this whole draft ordeal began.  The list more or less remains the same with Donald's name as a late entry over the last couple weeks.
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Who have I been comparing Aaron Donald to........Warren Sapp is a hall of fame DT that played 3 technique with tampa bay. 

AD can play 3- technique 4-3, they say he can/has played 5- technique, he basically can line up anywhere. I think he would even do just fine in a 3-4. You line up Aaron Donald in a 3 technique against a guard and he is responsible for 1 gap the "B" gap and he explodes off the ball with his insanely fast first step and plays against the run( produced 28 tackles for loss senior year) on his way to the QB. LOL with JPP and Moore, Hankins next to him.
jimmyzzzz wrote: Quick....

Name the top 10 3-technique DTs in the last 20 years.
You cant because there is no top 10.
There may not even be a top 5.

There are prospects who fit the bill every offseason.  They tend to go nowhere fast.

I like the kid.  The odds are stacked against him.  If he were to make it to the Pro Bowl, he will become perhaps only the 3rd or 4th in the last 20 years to make it as that type of DTackle.

And no I dont give a crap about his size.  It's the skillset.  It's a hard translation into the pros.  But if he makes it, he will be a rare....extremely rare player.  Perhaps the rarest type of player of all.  The successful pass rushing DT.

Frankly, I dont have a preference.  We've seen a half dozen names since this whole draft ordeal began.  The list more or less remains the same with Donald's name as a late entry over the last couple weeks.

IN REESE WE TRUST!

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Exactly.  Anytime I've asked someone to come up with a top 10 list of 3 Tech DTs in the last 20 years, here is what it looks like:

1.  Warren Sapp
2.  Warren Sapp
3.  Warren Sapp
4.  John Randle
5.  Warren Sapp
6.  Warren Sapp
7.  John Randle
8.  John Randle
9.  Warren Sapp
10.  Last but not least you cant forget John Randle.

I'm trying to tell you that in spite of the wealth of 3 tech DT prospects, hardly any of them have panned out.

Two such players in twenty years worth of drafts.  That's an extremely high failure rate.
NYGIANTSSB46 wrote: Who have I been comparing Aaron Donald to........Warren Sapp is a hall of fame DT that played 3 technique with tampa bay. 
AD can play 3- technique, they say he can play 5- technique, he can line up anywhere. I think he would even do just fine in a 3-4.
jimmyzzzz wrote: Quick....

Name the top 10 3-technique DTs in the last 20 years.
You cant because there is no top 10.
There may not even be a top 5.

There are prospects who fit the bill every offseason.  They tend to go nowhere fast.

I like the kid.  The odds are stacked against him.  If he were to make it to the Pro Bowl, he will become perhaps only the 3rd or 4th in the last 20 years to make it as that type of DTackle.

And no I dont give a crap about his size.  It's the skillset.  It's a hard translation into the pros.  But if he makes it, he will be a rare....extremely rare player.  Perhaps the rarest type of player of all.  The successful pass rushing DT.

Frankly, I dont have a preference.  We've seen a half dozen names since this whole draft ordeal began.  The list more or less remains the same with Donald's name as a late entry over the last couple weeks.
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Geno Atkins is playing pretty well for Cincinatti and Aaron Donald is compared to him but is faster, stronger, quicker. Mike Patterson is 6'1".

I  have heard a lot of bs arguments against AD with ridiculous nonsense.
You have a legitimate point I understand it and it is valid. There have not been many in the mold of WS, JR and AD. Guys like this don't come along too often. The Giants have to decide IF he is the next WS, JR. This is what the Giants have to evaluate and not screw up. Not many like this come along often. AD fits the mold of the 3 technique pass rush DT like Sapp and Randle.

There are flaws and question marks for every player in the draft. Every player has question marks. From clowney and Manziel all the way down. When you do find a DT that can do what these guys do you have struck gold. AD has proven himself every step of the way and is just like these two guys in size, speed, natural ability etc. I think AD has what it takes to be on their level. He is a beast that is lightning fast. He has proven he can get to the qb and pass rush from the DT position. He is a solid player all around. He is a good character kid a good person and I like him for that and with how he has played in college plus proven himself in the senior bowl practices and game and then goes on to blow up the combine with speed, strength, technique, doing best in the 3 cone among DT's, benches, 35 reps and is the strongest and fastest, he did the best in 3-cone, runs a 4.65 40. There's just too much not to like. I also think he would be a model player and a leader on D. I like him if the Giants like him. I just hope to God that if we do pass that we haven't screwed it up and he comes back to haunt us for decades.
jimmyzzzz wrote: Exactly.  Anytime I've asked someone to come up with a top 10 list of 3 Tech DTs in the last 20 years, here is what it looks like:

1.  Warren Sapp
2.  Warren Sapp
3.  Warren Sapp
4.  John Randle
5.  Warren Sapp
6.  Warren Sapp
7.  John Randle
8.  John Randle
9.  Warren Sapp
10.  Last but not least you cant forget John Randle.

I'm trying to tell you that in spite of the wealth of 3 tech DT prospects, hardly any of them have panned out.

Two such players in twenty years worth of drafts.  That's an extremely high failure rate.
NYGIANTSSB46 wrote: Who have I been comparing Aaron Donald to........Warren Sapp is a hall of fame DT that played 3 technique with tampa bay. 
AD can play 3- technique, they say he can play 5- technique, he can line up anywhere. I think he would even do just fine in a 3-4.
jimmyzzzz wrote: Quick....

Name the top 10 3-technique DTs in the last 20 years.
You cant because there is no top 10.
There may not even be a top 5.

There are prospects who fit the bill every offseason.  They tend to go nowhere fast.

I like the kid.  The odds are stacked against him.  If he were to make it to the Pro Bowl, he will become perhaps only the 3rd or 4th in the last 20 years to make it as that type of DTackle.

And no I dont give a crap about his size.  It's the skillset.  It's a hard translation into the pros.  But if he makes it, he will be a rare....extremely rare player.  Perhaps the rarest type of player of all.  The successful pass rushing DT.

Frankly, I dont have a preference.  We've seen a half dozen names since this whole draft ordeal began.  The list more or less remains the same with Donald's name as a late entry over the last couple weeks.

IN REESE WE TRUST!

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jimmyzzzz wrote: Exactly.  Anytime I've asked someone to come up with a top 10 list of 3 Tech DTs in the last 20 years, here is what it looks like:

1.  Warren Sapp
2.  Warren Sapp
3.  Warren Sapp
4.  John Randle
5.  Warren Sapp
6.  Warren Sapp
7.  John Randle
8.  John Randle
9.  Warren Sapp
10.  Last but not least you cant forget John Randle.

I'm trying to tell you that in spite of the wealth of 3 tech DT prospects, hardly any of them have panned out.

Two such players in twenty years worth of drafts.  That's an extremely high failure rate.
NYGIANTSSB46 wrote: Who have I been comparing Aaron Donald to........Warren Sapp is a hall of fame DT that played 3 technique with tampa bay. 
AD can play 3- technique, they say he can play 5- technique, he can line up anywhere. I think he would even do just fine in a 3-4.
jimmyzzzz wrote: Quick....

Name the top 10 3-technique DTs in the last 20 years.
You cant because there is no top 10.
There may not even be a top 5.

There are prospects who fit the bill every offseason.  They tend to go nowhere fast.

I like the kid.  The odds are stacked against him.  If he were to make it to the Pro Bowl, he will become perhaps only the 3rd or 4th in the last 20 years to make it as that type of DTackle.

And no I dont give a crap about his size.  It's the skillset.  It's a hard translation into the pros.  But if he makes it, he will be a rare....extremely rare player.  Perhaps the rarest type of player of all.  The successful pass rushing DT.

Frankly, I dont have a preference.  We've seen a half dozen names since this whole draft ordeal began.  The list more or less remains the same with Donald's name as a late entry over the last couple weeks.
Why draft a DT when half of the Giants OL is a HUGE mess? It just doesn`t make sense, if Mathews or Lewan are available at 12 the Giants should go for it and worry about the DL in the later rounds.
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I am not against picking Mathews, or Lewan.
The ONLY reason I would want the Giants to draft Aaron Donald is if they think he is the next Warren Sapp and BPA and a better prospect than Lewan or Evans or Ebron or whomever.
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jimmyzzzz wrote: Exactly.  Anytime I've asked someone to come up with a top 10 list of 3 Tech DTs in the last 20 years, here is what it looks like:

1.  Warren Sapp
2.  Warren Sapp
3.  Warren Sapp
4.  John Randle
5.  Warren Sapp
6.  Warren Sapp
7.  John Randle
8.  John Randle
9.  Warren Sapp
10.  Last but not least you cant forget John Randle.

I'm trying to tell you that in spite of the wealth of 3 tech DT prospects, hardly any of them have panned out.

Two such players in twenty years worth of drafts.  That's an extremely high failure rate.
NYGIANTSSB46 wrote: Who have I been comparing Aaron Donald to........Warren Sapp is a hall of fame DT that played 3 technique with tampa bay. 
AD can play 3- technique, they say he can play 5- technique, he can line up anywhere. I think he would even do just fine in a 3-4.
jimmyzzzz wrote: Quick....

Name the top 10 3-technique DTs in the last 20 years.
You cant because there is no top 10.
There may not even be a top 5.

There are prospects who fit the bill every offseason.  They tend to go nowhere fast.

I like the kid.  The odds are stacked against him.  If he were to make it to the Pro Bowl, he will become perhaps only the 3rd or 4th in the last 20 years to make it as that type of DTackle.

And no I dont give a crap about his size.  It's the skillset.  It's a hard translation into the pros.  But if he makes it, he will be a rare....extremely rare player.  Perhaps the rarest type of player of all.  The successful pass rushing DT.

Frankly, I dont have a preference.  We've seen a half dozen names since this whole draft ordeal began.  The list more or less remains the same with Donald's name as a late entry over the last couple weeks.
Why draft a DT when half of the Giants OL is a HUGE mess? It just doesn`t make sense, if Mathews or Lewan are available at 12 the Giants should go for it and worry about the DL in the later rounds.

IN REESE WE TRUST!
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NYGIANTSSB46 wrote: I  have heard a lot of bs arguments against AD with ridiculous nonsense.
You have a legitimate point I understand it and it is valid. There have not been many in the mold of WS, JR and AD. Guys like this don't come along too often. The Giants have to decide IF he is the next WS, JR. This is what the Giants have to evaluate and not screw up. Not many like this come along often. AD fits the mold of the 3 technique pass rush DT like Sapp and Randle.

There are flaws and question marks for every player in the draft. Every player has question marks. From clowney and Manziel all the way down. When you do find a DT that can do what these guys do you have struck gold. AD has proven himself every step of the way and is just like these two guys in size, speed, natural ability etc. I think AD has what it takes to be on their level. He is a beast that is lightning fast. He has proven he can get to the qb and pass rush from the DT position. He is a solid player all around. I like him if the Giants like him. I just hope to God that if we do pass that we haven't screwed it up and he comes back to haunt us for decades.
jimmyzzzz wrote: Exactly.  Anytime I've asked someone to come up with a top 10 list of 3 Tech DTs in the last 20 years, here is what it looks like:

1.  Warren Sapp
2.  Warren Sapp
3.  Warren Sapp
4.  John Randle
5.  Warren Sapp
6.  Warren Sapp
7.  John Randle
8.  John Randle
9.  Warren Sapp
10.  Last but not least you cant forget John Randle.

I'm trying to tell you that in spite of the wealth of 3 tech DT prospects, hardly any of them have panned out.

Two such players in twenty years worth of drafts.  That's an extremely high failure rate.
NYGIANTSSB46 wrote: Who have I been comparing Aaron Donald to........Warren Sapp is a hall of fame DT that played 3 technique with tampa bay. 
AD can play 3- technique, they say he can play 5- technique, he can line up anywhere. I think he would even do just fine in a 3-4.
jimmyzzzz wrote: Quick....

Name the top 10 3-technique DTs in the last 20 years.
You cant because there is no top 10.
There may not even be a top 5.

There are prospects who fit the bill every offseason.  They tend to go nowhere fast.

I like the kid.  The odds are stacked against him.  If he were to make it to the Pro Bowl, he will become perhaps only the 3rd or 4th in the last 20 years to make it as that type of DTackle.

And no I dont give a crap about his size.  It's the skillset.  It's a hard translation into the pros.  But if he makes it, he will be a rare....extremely rare player.  Perhaps the rarest type of player of all.  The successful pass rushing DT.

Frankly, I dont have a preference.  We've seen a half dozen names since this whole draft ordeal began.  The list more or less remains the same with Donald's name as a late entry over the last couple weeks.
I understand what you're saying.  It would be a colossal disappointment if we pass and he makes it.  I've seen the highlights and damned if he doesnt look a lot like both Warren Sapp and Leonard Marshall.  But like I say the last 20 and longer years have left a trail of 3 Tech busts that it seems there is unquestionable risk.  I think he has a legit and much stronger chance of playing outside in the 3-4 like you say (hence the Lenny Marshall comparison).  

Then consider all of Giants fandom seems to think OL is the main priority.  If JR passes on an OL and takes the DTackle and if he busts or ends up being another "okay" player, would we not all be down his throat.

There is unquestionably a risk if you do and risk if you dont.  Personally I like Donald.  But the odds are just not there.  Like I say, I'm not going to bemoan any selection from the handful of guys mentioned as possibilities including this one.  But man everytime i see a 3 tech DT, i see fools gold.  Maybe my brain is just wired from seeing too many cant miss blue chip 3 techs go down the toilet so take it for what its worth if anything.
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I hear you. I just like the kid and hope it happens. It's all wishful thinking. If it is Lewan or mathews or Evans I am good with whatever the Giants do. I do not think Aaron DOnald is a lock to be drafted by the Giants. I think there is a chance but I expect we go OL. IF mathews should drop you just can't pass on him and Lewan is another good looking prospect for OT. We would still need OG and C and WR. So if they pass on AD they can go Lewan and the a guy like Truitt or whomever is there in the second. I want us to improve the D line with a solid defensive lineman or maybe even LB if the Giants think we are OK. I see losing LJ as a big hole and hope we fill it. JPP has to play better and I want to do whatever we need to fix our D pass rush. JPP has to regain his form and Moore has to step up as well as Hankins. defense line or lb isn't out of the equation.
jimmyzzzz wrote:
NYGIANTSSB46 wrote: I  have heard a lot of bs arguments against AD with ridiculous nonsense.
You have a legitimate point I understand it and it is valid. There have not been many in the mold of WS, JR and AD. Guys like this don't come along too often. The Giants have to decide IF he is the next WS, JR. This is what the Giants have to evaluate and not screw up. Not many like this come along often. AD fits the mold of the 3 technique pass rush DT like Sapp and Randle.

There are flaws and question marks for every player in the draft. Every player has question marks. From clowney and Manziel all the way down. When you do find a DT that can do what these guys do you have struck gold. AD has proven himself every step of the way and is just like these two guys in size, speed, natural ability etc. I think AD has what it takes to be on their level. He is a beast that is lightning fast. He has proven he can get to the qb and pass rush from the DT position. He is a solid player all around. I like him if the Giants like him. I just hope to God that if we do pass that we haven't screwed it up and he comes back to haunt us for decades.
jimmyzzzz wrote: Exactly.  Anytime I've asked someone to come up with a top 10 list of 3 Tech DTs in the last 20 years, here is what it looks like:

1.  Warren Sapp
2.  Warren Sapp
3.  Warren Sapp
4.  John Randle
5.  Warren Sapp
6.  Warren Sapp
7.  John Randle
8.  John Randle
9.  Warren Sapp
10.  Last but not least you cant forget John Randle.

I'm trying to tell you that in spite of the wealth of 3 tech DT prospects, hardly any of them have panned out.

Two such players in twenty years worth of drafts.  That's an extremely high failure rate.
NYGIANTSSB46 wrote: Who have I been comparing Aaron Donald to........Warren Sapp is a hall of fame DT that played 3 technique with tampa bay. 
AD can play 3- technique, they say he can play 5- technique, he can line up anywhere. I think he would even do just fine in a 3-4.
jimmyzzzz wrote: Quick....

Name the top 10 3-technique DTs in the last 20 years.
You cant because there is no top 10.
There may not even be a top 5.

There are prospects who fit the bill every offseason.  They tend to go nowhere fast.

I like the kid.  The odds are stacked against him.  If he were to make it to the Pro Bowl, he will become perhaps only the 3rd or 4th in the last 20 years to make it as that type of DTackle.

And no I dont give a crap about his size.  It's the skillset.  It's a hard translation into the pros.  But if he makes it, he will be a rare....extremely rare player.  Perhaps the rarest type of player of all.  The successful pass rushing DT.

Frankly, I dont have a preference.  We've seen a half dozen names since this whole draft ordeal began.  The list more or less remains the same with Donald's name as a late entry over the last couple weeks.
I understand what you're saying.  It would be a colossal disappointment if we pass and he makes it.  I've seen the highlights and damned if he doesnt look a lot like both Warren Sapp and Leonard Marshall.  But like I say the last 20 and longer years have left a trail of 3 Tech busts that it seems there is unquestionable risk.  I think he has a legit and much stronger chance of playing outside in the 3-4 like you say (hence the Lenny Marshall comparison).  

Then consider all of Giants fandom seems to think OL is the main priority.  If JR passes on an OL and takes the DTackle and if he busts or ends up being another "okay" player, would we not all be down his throat.

There is unquestionably a risk if you do and risk if you dont.  Personally I like Donald.  But the odds are just not there.  Like I say, I'm not going to bemoan any selection from the handful of guys mentioned as possibilities including this one.  But man everytime i see a 3 tech DT, i see fools gold.  Maybe my brain is just wired from seeing too many cant miss blue chip 3 techs go down the toilet so take it for what its worth if anything.

IN REESE WE TRUST!
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Okay fine.  After 5 mins of mulling it over, I'm on board!!!!!  I just cant make up my mind on this one.
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