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THE IMPARTIAL REVIEW -Cabin Fever Edition- Game 10- Packers

Posted: 11/14/2013 8:29 AM

THE IMPARTIAL REVIEW -Cabin Fever Edition- Game 10- Packers 


Giant coaches huddled in private this week, the topic- how to fix Eli. To say Eli is having a bad year is to say the president's health plan is getting off to a slow start. Just about everything Eli is doing on the football field now is wrong. When you attain a certain stature & skill in any sport, the sport slows down. A baseball hitter marvels that the speeding ball seems big as a balloon; the basketball player's rim is friendly and wide enough to hold all the peaches in the world. In football the game slows. What seemed so enormously fast out of college, safeties blitzing corners crashing, linemen stunting... suddenly seems slow as heck, as the now familiarized QB begins to see the entire field. Out of college, most of these QB's can only focus on one side of the field, where they intend to throw, with experience the QB learns how to shade a defender the wrong direction and accurately hit a second or third read.

Rarely something else happens, a QB having attained that level of play where he sees things slowing down on the field and his mind is clicking ahead of the action... that QB suddenly has an in season aneurysm football wise, a blunt trauma to the head that has the QB waking up as if he just came out of college. Very rarely you get a once brave QB who suddenly realizes the game could take him out at any time and with the wife and kid and all and all the money in the world lets just protect these legs.

It's a disease really, a viral load of negative thoughts and they come in bunches. For Eli the O line represents a big problem. In his head -- the trust is not there. That bonding between line and QB is not there this year. Sean O Hara is indeed missed after all. Eli comes in plays terrible and the line goes home and readsa bout Richie Igognito. There are NO diner parties out this year-- no bonding. When exactly this distrust occurred between Eli and the line I actually remember... it was one of the games this year obviously... it might of been game 3... there was disjointed, reckless series of plays in which Eli got himself in some very dangerous positions-- out of the pocket exposed flipping the ball all that stuff and defenders just chose not to light him up. Eli had gotten outside himself and now the game was fast again.

Eli is one tough kid so this is NOT a case of ' Happy Feet ' a term that has been in football as long as guys were getting clobbered  in the sport. Eli does not drop back to pass and tap his feet because he is scared of the rush... Eli has a deeper psychological condition that is born out of mistrust of his protectors up front-- Eli has Cabin Fever.

Former QB Ron Jaworski will be saying this about Eli soon, he's already said it once in public and he's preparing an Eli piece for his show. The term Cabin Fever as it relates to football is interesting-- there is no confined space obviously... a big open stadium, the confined space is actually Eli's head.

"In terms of the traditional ways that the guys, the fans and everyone has been used to seeing us play with the big plays and touchdowns, we’re kind of waiting to have that back again," - V Cruz

Eli has 11 touchdowns and 16 interceptions,confused and three of his picks were returned for touchdowns.mad In combination with a patchwork offensive line, Manning has thrown more interceptions through nine games than he has in any season in his NFL career as a regular starterrolleyes. He has also thrown fewer touchdowns (11) through nine games than ever before.eek

Here is the BIG stat- The Giants are scoring roughly nine points per game less than they were last year and have just eight passes of 30 yards or more, ranking 28th in the NFL.redface

Eli's dad was on the radio and tip toed around Eli's mental condition-- " He's playing under a dark cloud " was how he described it bringing to mind very much Charlie Bron or Linus. Dad's not going to go deeper into it but that dark cloud is a psychological condition now- cabin fever.... Eli is ITCHING TO BREAK OUT! biggrin He wants to show the world and the league that he can still be the best biggrin... and the Giant coaches are scared to death.

Instead from what they have seen on film they would prefer Eli work through his emotional problems slowly and without any turnovers with little fanfare or excitement or apparently scoring. Sure they have been working Cruz deep all week in practice but in game with a heated and angry Green Bay squad coming to town, the Giants are hoping for more of the mundane from Eli and that he doesn't try too much.

Cabin fever, while not an actual disease as the name suggests, is a state of restlessness, depression and irritability , when brought about the normal way the results can be a frightening. People are broken in confined spaces, their will to live is taken away, especially when you leave the light on. But what of Cabin Fever brought on in wide open spaces of 100 yards? In football the restlessness is in the urge to do better. Eli is feeling the rush way before it gets there, he is pressing, he has gone 'Stir Crazy' if you will. That's an old phrase from the mid 19th century Stir was the jail so going stir crazy was how you felt trapped in jail. That is how Eli feels now, the lights go on and it's just him on the podium screwing up. The urge now is to do too much.

Eli's unkempt look as of late makes him resemble a classic character who came down with Cabin fever, Jack Nickelson in the Shining. Ironically for Jack and Eli, getting outdoors and engaging in physical activity may be the only real “cure.”

The Packers-

Things are so bad in Green Bay they are about to fire Dom Capers! Just two weeks ago or so they were crowing about their league best run stopping defense... after two weeks of missed tackles the Packers are shook up and pointing fingers at themselves. This is a team undone quickly.

Green Bay ranks dead last in the NFL in interceptions (three) and are tied for 18th in fumble recoveries (five).

The Packers ranked eighth in the league in interceptions (18) in 2012 and first in interceptions (31) in 2011.  Turnovers are a huge part of their game plan. When they don't happen the team loses. Dom Capers' defense has thrived on interceptions.  No team in the league had more interceptions from 2009-'12. Those four years under The Pack racked up an average of 26 Picks per season. Now, they're on pace for five. redface

NO INTERCEPTIONS = NO WIN FOR GREEN BAY.

Eli then despite his yearning to Break Out Must have NO PICKS THIS GAME. Period.
The Giants need to reel him in and play it safe until the Cabin fever is broken.

The fact that recent Packer losses have come in the 4th quarter when opposing teams have held the ball on long time consuming drives has the coaching staff  hopping mad at the defense. On Nov. 4, Chicago rammed the ball down field on an 18-play drive that lasted 8 minutes, 58 seconds. Last Sunday, Philadelphia's game-sealing drive lasted 15 plays over 9 minutes, 32 seconds.

Tramon Williams, Sam Shields, Morgan Burnett and M.D. Jennings are four players in the secondary who are lucky to have NFL jobs. Williams is the best of the bunch.Two backup QB's burned this secondaryso far: The Eagles Nick Foles and Chicago's Josh McCown .

A week ago, the Packers were 5-2 and atop the NFC North. Today, they're in third place at 5-4 based on tiebreakers and wouldn't be in the playoffs if they started now.

"Everybody's anxious," Green Bay cornerback Micah Hyde said. "Everybody's anxious to get out there again. Everybody wants to get out there, play this weekend and try to make plays. ... Everyone wants to make plays for the team and try to spark this team and get this thing going."

The plays have been there for the making, Green Bay has not tackled well.

In Green Bay's 27-13 loss to the Eagles. Tramon Williams and Morgan Burnett collided on a DeSean Jackson's 55-yard touchdown. Williams missed another diving interception later. Williams also just missed interceptions the two previous weeks — against Chicago (over the middle) and at Minnesota (along the sideline) he just keeps missing. Reminds me of Hosley on the Giants.

“The most disappointing thing is they hit three balls over the top of us for touchdowns. The biggest issue we had were the big plays,” Packers Defensive Coordinator Dom Capers said.

As for the fourth quarter surrenders:
Head Coach Mike McCarthy was on edge in his post game press conference. McCarthy referred to it as a “recurring situation.”

“We’ve certainly tried to address it,” Capers said of his unit’s fourth-quarter failures. The Packers have been outscored in the fourth quarter this season, 83-46.surprised

However-- It is the only quarter they’ve been outscored!

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It's an interesting set up for a game... on one side you have a QB who has thrown way too many interceptions and on the other side a defense that is craving the picks they usually get... salivating no doubt about facing Eli. A lot of pride must be swallowed here as the disiplined Ginats ride what has brought them a few wins-- a greatly improved defense.

The Review took a lot of heat around town when it took to task the 'No Pressure PF Giant  Defense' instead of the sputtering offense during the 0-6 start. Now that folks have seen what the D can do --After recording only six sacks through the first seven games of the season,  the New York Giants have tallied eight in the past two weeks.-- it has become painfully obvious that you win football games by making the other QB uncomfortable.

Now with one side of the ball fixed, we slowly turn our attention to Eli and the offense. Over the next two games we shall rebuild what what once was so that by the time we face Washington, we have the old Eli back, shaved and officially not holed up anymore in the cabin fever of his mind. This Has been An Impartial review ~stoney

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Posted: 11/14/2013 8:37 AM

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Eli`s playing under a dark cloud? More like a hurricane if you ask me.
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Posted: 11/14/2013 10:14 AM

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Who is Holsley?  Is he sharing a room with the next JPP of TEs?  

We simply just are not in a position where we can beat ourselves. Eli has been the major contributor to that...

The "blueprint" is apply pressure and jump the out route. I hope Kildrive can think a bit and get Myers or Donnell involved in the game more especially on the blitz calls.  use them as the outlet...

Expect to see too much Brown. I hope we don't overuse this kid second week back and Jacobs or Cox can get some time instead of Hillis.
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Posted: 11/14/2013 11:20 AM

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Mandroids chamber is spent...a list of excuses over the years.

1. The wind and weather at the Meadowlands.

2. Plaxico and Shockey refuse to work out with him in the off-season

3. Huffnagle sucks

4. Gilbrides scheme is too complicated

5. Giant WR have bad hands and run bad routes

6. OL sucks

7. No run game

8. No TE
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Posted: 11/14/2013 11:33 AM

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RichinPA wrote: Who is Holsley?  Is he sharing a room with the next JPP of TEs?  

We simply just are not in a position where we can beat ourselves. Eli has been the major contributor to that...

The "blueprint" is apply pressure and jump the out route. I hope Kildrive can think a bit and get Myers or Donnell involved in the game more especially on the blitz calls.  use them as the outlet...

Expect to see too much Brown. I hope we don't overuse this kid second week back and Jacobs or Cox can get some time instead of Hillis.
Holsley=Sinorice Moss of the DB`s
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Posted: 11/14/2013 6:44 PM

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stewie wrote: Mandroids chamber is spent...a list of excuses over the years.

1. The wind and weather at the Meadowlands.

2. Plaxico and Shockey refuse to work out with him in the off-season

3. Huffnagle sucks

4. Gilbrides scheme is too complicated

5. Giant WR have bad hands and run bad routes

6. OL sucks

7. No run game

8. No TE
Eli has always been an enigma to me.  How can he pull out all those 4th quarter games at the most crucial times and still be woefully inaccurate and inconsistent?  the situation just doesn't make sense to me, but I agree that the excuses you list have gotten stale and don't come close to explaining our QB.
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Posted: 11/14/2013 8:14 PM

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I know we can't blame it all on the OL, but that is the major reason for Eli's apparent regression.

There are problems at LT and RT, there are problems at RG and C.  Boothe has been the Giants best OL this year, and Boothe is average at best.

The Giants need to rebuild the OL next year.  There is no other way to go.  With a rebuilt and strong OL, and a consistent running game, Eli will play much better.

When Eli drops back, he doesn't know if he is going to get his head knocked off...it has been that bad this year.  And poor David Wilson may never play football again because Coughlin reinserted David Diehl back into the starting lineup.  Let's hope Diehl doesn't put an end to Eli's career the way he may have put an end to Wilson's.

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Posted: 11/14/2013 9:36 PM

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Interesting post, until you tried to convince us that Boothe has been the best lineman this year and is playing average. I would argue he has been poor on his best days. The interior of the line has been purely dreadful.
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Posted: 11/14/2013 10:44 PM

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stewie wrote: Mandroids chamber is spent...a list of excuses over the years.

1. The wind and weather at the Meadowlands.

2. Plaxico and Shockey refuse to work out with him in the off-season

3. Huffnagle sucks

4. Gilbrides scheme is too complicated

5. Giant WR have bad hands and run bad routes

6. OL sucks

7. No run game

8. No TE
Stewie - You forgot #9, the flavor du jour - it's all Hakeem Nicks fault.
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Posted: 11/15/2013 12:22 AM

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jimmycal99 wrote: Interesting post, until you tried to convince us that Boothe has been the best lineman this year and is playing average. I would argue he has been poor on his best days. The interior of the line has been purely dreadful.


Beatty (-4.5 overall grade) and Pugh (-4.3 overall grade) have been train wrecks for most of the season.  Pugh doesn't have a game where he doesn't get beat on a few plays forcing Eli to get rid of the ball or take a hit and sack.  Cordle stinks (-4.2 overall grade).  Snee couldn't play.  Bass couldn't stay healthy.  Diehl isn't worth discussing (-17.7 overall grade) outside of the fact that he is responsible for getting David Wilson hurt and possibly ending his career.  That leaves Boothe as the Giants best OL this year (-2.4 overall grade).  Boothe has had some mediocre games this year and that makes him the Giants best offensive lineman.

When you look at these OL grades, it becomes harder and harder to place major blame on Eli.  A QB cannot succeed behind this OL.

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Posted: 11/15/2013 7:15 AM

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Stonedinvestor leads the way of NY sports thinking:

I love how the regular press works. First thing NJ does is read my piece and make a lame attempt to make the opposite argument publishing a ridiculous piece that pretends to break down game film (they watch the tv broadcast again). The answer the same lame one the Giants tried to put out earlier in the week " the two high safety excuse "

Is Eli Really Missing Wide Open Receivers was the name of this article and the answer we are supposed to believe in only a few, mostly Eli took what they gave and blah blah blah... This explanation flies in the face of what Cruz and Nicks said on the locker room after the game-- basically it doesn't matter a whit if two safeties stay high the Giants have a multitude of patterns to run beneath them. Indeed we could send two guys heavy one side and actually make the safety chose a side-- that would be novel eh?

Then espn reads NJ and can't believe the carp they are reading... They reference my piece and see the ' Cabin Fever angle ' they see that I know what Jawarski is working on this week because no one is more hooked up to espn's campus full of interns than me...

so espn comes out with this: An almost exact copy of what you all received yesterday... coincidence? Or regular event? By now you all know.~si


espn-
EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Eli Manning has relied on toughness and an aversion to unnecessary risks to build the longest active consecutive start streak among NFL quarterbacks, at 155 games. And yet, in the midst of a down season in which his 16 interceptions also lead the league, the way Manning turned away from a blitz coming at him last Sunday and threw his third pick-six of the season -- this one against the Oakland Raiders -- revived a growing suspicion.

Has Manning been hit so much this year that he's getting gun shy about the pass-rush pressure? Or worse, is Manning flinching and feeling ghosts around him when there are none?

Even Manning's father, Archie, admitted on the radio this week that "you start to feel there is a black cloud hanging over you" when you're going through the sort of mistake-filled season that Eli has been enduring.

"I haven't seen anything, but I'm not studying Eli," Giants defensive end Justin Tuck said Thursday. Asked if he believes in the haunted-quarterback phenomenon in general, Tuck nodded and said, "Sure. I've seen it happen against us many times. Once you start hitting a quarterback, especially early in the game, they just start to expect someone to be there to hit them again. You even start to see guys duck when nobody is there."

How much that's happening now to Eli is a question worth pondering with sack specialist Clay Matthews and the Green Bay Packers coming to New York on Sunday hoping to end the Giants' three-game winning streak.

The Packers are expected to start third-string quarterback Scott Tolzien in the absence of injured Aaron Rodgers. But Tolzien (24-for-39, 280 yards, 1 touchdown) actually had better stats last week against Philadelphia than Manning did (12-for-22, 140 yards, 1 TD) in the Giants' win against Oakland.

So just because the Giants should have a better chance of beating the Packers without Rodgers and maintain their hopes of climbing back into the NFC East race doesn't mean they will. Little about the Giants' 3-6 season has felt sure this year.

Eli himself never could or would admit the pass-rush pressure, weariness at taking hits and working without a reliable running game is all getting to him. But outsiders have been talking about it for weeks.

Early last month when the Giants were 0-4, an unnamed NFL personnel director told the New York Daily News, "[Manning's] confidence looks shot to me. He doesn't even look like he's having fun. He just looks beat up."devil

Ron Jaworski, the former Eagles quarterback and current ESPN analyst who is known for his extensive film study, has questioned Manning's "decision-making" and, more recently, whether he's getting "cabin fever" in the pocket.flushed

Jaworski's decision-making remark came just days after Manning threw three fourth-quarter interceptions against the Eagles on Oct. 27, and even Giants coach Tom Coughlin -- long Eli's most steadfast supporter -- conceded some of Manning's errant throws were "just unbelievable."

Manning cleaned things up in the Giants' wins over Minnesota and rematch against the Eagles. He didn't throw an interception in either game. But Sunday's 24-20 win against the Raiders presented another example of how the hits might be getting to him: With a blitz coming off the corner,flushed Manning telegraphed his pass to his intended target, Victor Cruz; as he unloaded the ball as he turned his head -- never a good idea. bangheadThe Raiders' Tracy Porter undercut the route and returned the interception 43 yards for a touchdown just before the first half ended.

Coughlin, not wanting to risk any more mistakes, decided to run out the clock when the Giants got the ball right back, and they were booed as they ran off to the dressing room to "regroup," in Coughlin's words.devildevildevil

"I think [Eli] let it go and didn't even see the nickel [back], but he was there," Coughlin said.

It wasn't so much the fact Manning made a mistake. That happens. It was the way Manning flinched that was telling. flushedThe old Eli -- the one who trusted his offensive line -- didn't do that as often. This Eli -- the one who has been sacked 22 times and hit another 48 times -- seems to have accelerated the internal clock in his head of when pressure might arrive. How much risk he has. Or how long he has to make a decision.

Not all of his interceptions have been his fault. But some have been more like no-look passes he launched just hoping they'd be caught. The Giants play their 10th game Sunday and Eli and his receivers still don't look totally in sync. Defense has carried them more during their winning streak.

When Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride was asked Thursday if he sees Manning acting haunted by the rush, Gilbride said, bored1 "Uh -- no. No I haven't. I mean, when the pressure gets to him, when they are around him, it obviously affects him, because it affects everybody.... (BS Meter Shwing!)

"But is he reacting unnecessarily or imagining things? I don't think emotionally or mentally it's affecting him at all. I just know he was disappointed because he felt, just like we all did, that there were opportunities we left out there Sunday out on the field."

(Opportunities? But NJ.com said there wasn't....) I'm confused.

The Giants' makeshift offensive line, which lost Chris Snee and David Baas for the season and was without David Diehl for a long stretch, is partly to blame for Manning's struggles. The Giants' lack of a running game has been fingered, too, except the Giants finally got a robust 30-carry, 115-yard day from Andre Brown last week in his return from a broken leg. And still, Eli struggled.!!!!!!!!! redfaceredfaceredfaceredfaceredface

Now the Packers are coming to town. Here comes that pass rush of theirs that comes from all sorts of angles and formations. Giants offensive lineman Kevin Boothe admitted the Packers rush is tough to stop, but he also said Thursday, "We know if we give Eli a clean pocket, he'll be effective." But that's a big "if" in a season that is stubbornly remaining Manning's iffiest season yet.
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Posted: 11/15/2013 9:23 AM

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callmeSage wrote:
jimmycal99 wrote: Interesting post, until you tried to convince us that Boothe has been the best lineman this year and is playing average. I would argue he has been poor on his best days. The interior of the line has been purely dreadful.


Beatty (-4.5 overall grade) and Pugh (-4.3 overall grade) have been train wrecks for most of the season.  Pugh doesn't have a game where he doesn't get beat on a few plays forcing Eli to get rid of the ball or take a hit and sack.  Cordle stinks (-4.2 overall grade).  Snee couldn't play.  Bass couldn't stay healthy.  Diehl isn't worth discussing (-17.7 overall grade) outside of the fact that he is responsible for getting David Wilson hurt and possibly ending his career.  That leaves Boothe as the Giants best OL this year (-2.4 overall grade).  Boothe has had some mediocre games this year and that makes him the Giants best offensive lineman.

When you look at these OL grades, it becomes harder and harder to place major blame on Eli.  A QB cannot succeed behind this OL.
Sage.......how have the PFF ratings been for the OL over the last 3 games?    Whom graded the best/worst?    I have a feeling I know who the worst is (Diehl).
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Posted: 11/15/2013 9:43 AM

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I have to go to the gym. When I work out I'll try and envision part 1 of our Eli reclamation project. It's in the mind, it's Cabin Fever-- it's the fact that Eli does not trust his offensive line. That is the fact.

That is the reason... not that the line is so good or so bad but that inside Eli, his fear/ survival response has been triggered. At some point this season Eli felt so much pressure coming that he lost faith in his line.

I think what we should do now is have a ZERO sack day against the Packers... and afterwards Eli should go out and eat with the guys. There is a bond building that needs to be completed here... ~stoney
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Posted: 11/15/2013 9:51 AM

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I am also tired of the excuse machine

Our OL does suck....but Eli has also. When you pay someone franchise $$$....he needs to play at that level

Eli has not over the last 2 years. He brought us 2 superbowls (correction: I would say our defense brought us the first one and Eli helped bring us the second).
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Posted: 11/15/2013 10:08 AM

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I think this one will be closer than what most people think, just because the Giants are playing another lousy back up QB for a fourth week in a row doesn't mean the game is already in the bag, the NFC north is up for grabs and the Packers are still in it, I expect a hard fought game.
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Posted: 11/15/2013 12:33 PM

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With Rodgerrs this game is indeed very close PR but without him...

I don't think so! biggrinbiggrinbiggrin I have just heard back from yesterday's practice and the DEFENSE IS JACKED THIS WEEK. Very upbeat and talking about pitching a shutout... That's right Giant fans, the NY Giants believe they can hold Green Bay's mighty offense to ZERO points for a full game!surprised

Therefore the Prediction- NY 27
                                     GB 9 (three field goals is all they get)

Now for some less optimistic news my Dr's office just called... I've been taking a strong anti biotic 4 X a day this after taking another strong antibiotic once a day... and now after all of this screwing up my internal system... they call with a blood culture and it's STAPH!!!! with a dinosaur ending-- aureus.... Oh man it's resistant to the one's I was taking.... another Rx another round oh why me....

Last week I hit a low I had the ball huirting bad and the leg infection I put Manuke Hoeney all over my leg not sure how smart that it is it does draw out the infection & make it kind of bigger but out. so I got the sticky honey that drives my wife crazy with anger when it gets on the sheets, I got the infection trying to get into my kneecap where it's been once before in my life and that's a real bad scene... I got my Giants playing the Raiders, I got Eli... and the wife wants me to not be grumpy around the house.

I got a kid who tells his class that his Dad blogs on the Giants for a job and then tells his mother he wants a ' job like daddies when he can sit around the house all day....
Oh man even with these troubles, today feels like a great day. A turning point both for me and the Giants.

Now on to the wife's surgery next week because her darn mamagram came back with something this year and they couldn't get at it with a needle biopsy. She'll have to go under the sleeping gas... always dangerous.

What a trying year, lets use Green Bay and Dallas to practice to get better and win two easy games-- we're due a respite as fans don't you think??? A two TD lead at least by the half. I think so. ~stoney
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Posted: 11/15/2013 2:38 PM

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callmeSage wrote:   And poor David Wilson may never play football again because Coughlin reinserted David Diehl back into the starting lineup.  Let's hope Diehl doesn't put an end to Eli's career the way he may have put an end to Wilson's.

I wouldn't bet on Diehl not starting next year. Coughlin and Reese seem to have a soft spot for him and he's also one of the last remaining vets from the 2 SB teams. If Snee doesn't retire he'll have first dibs on the RG position. If he decides it's time to hang up the cleats, it's probably Diehl's spot to lose. I would literally be shocked if Reese had a major overhaul at the LG, C, RG positions next year. I wouldn't complain of course, but it would be very uncharacteristic of this team to do so.
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Posted: 11/18/2013 4:28 AM

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--- mol10e wrote:


stewie wrote: Mandroids chamber is spent...a list of excuses over the years.

1. The wind and weather at the Meadowlands.

2. Plaxico and Shockey refuse to work out with him in the off-season

3. Huffnagle sucks

4. Gilbrides scheme is too complicated

5. Giant WR have bad hands and run bad routes

6. OL sucks

7. No run game

8. No TE
Eli has always been an enigma to me.  How can he pull out all those 4th quarter games at the most crucial times and still be woefully inaccurate and inconsistent?  the situation just doesn't make sense to me, but I agree that the excuses you list have gotten stale and don't come close to explaining our QB.

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Posted: 11/18/2013 8:04 AM

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Well we did it. Sort of. cool

I thought Eli had a better outing but to my eye only one throw the TD to Randle was a vintage Eli throw. When Cruz pulled the double move and was wide open the ball came in severely short and could of been intercepted if it wasn't for some good defense played by Cruz.

Could Dallas be Eli's break out game-?

If I were to give Game Balls out for yesterday, JPP gets one for stepping up; special teams gets one for stepping up... and David Dehl gets one! David had his best game of the year, he punched guys in the chest and didn't let them get close to him, he pulled sweetly and actually blocked the defender and was thoroughly engaged all game. There was a running play when Brown I believe was slowed down after a big gain and caught up by three or four defenders and they started pushing him back and it was David Dehl who sprinted the twenty yards and got in on the action holding Brown up-- not the receivers.

A lot has been made of the quality of QB's we have faced and folks are holding that against us. I do see there point, however the game is based off how long it takes to get to the Quarterback and disrupt him, any quarterback. Romo will go down as easy as Tolziene.

Perhaps I'm just high on the Giants this morning fresh off a win. Or I'm just high... but I see a thorough beat down of Dallas coming... a game in which Eli & Nicks get fixed.

The main situation is we have creeped up the defense and our DB's have been helping out on the tackling and this has resulted in a run stifling defense, however if Tolzien can beat us deep consistently what will Tony Romo do?

I've been McBride's biggest supporter but I'm wondering if he should go back to the bench. It's just not good having these small DB's, Prince is so tiny! And McBride's a shrimp... when McBride got beat deep he wasn't terribly out of position but Jordy Nelson's long arms made the difference in a big catch. The Cowboy receivers have length, this could be a problem.

As we drop our DB's deeper when we face better QB's, the question becomes will the Giant defensive front hold down the run as well? That's how the end of this season is going to play out. If the answer is yes we are in good shape! ~stoney

Last edited 11/18/2013 8:05 AM by STONEDINVESTOR

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Posted: 11/18/2013 9:01 AM

Re: THE IMPARTIAL REVIEW -Cabin Fever Edition- Game 10- Packers 


Tolzien made some outstanding deep throws Stoney.    That one to Nelson hit him in stride in a perfect spot.    McBride was beat easily......but he still hit him perfectly on that play.    I thought that QB was pretty solid.    Not great.....but a more than solid backup QB in today's NFL.  


Meanwhile our knight in shining armor is not hitting anyone consistently and continues to not entirely be his normal self.    But......he largely did not make mistakes....except for the INT thrown in LMJr's area.     A clear miscommunication.    Thankfully it was not returned to the house.
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