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Worst Draft Picks In Viking History

Posted: 1/9/2008 11:05 AM

Worst Draft Picks In Viking History 


Here's a list of the worst Viking draft picks ever.  Personally I would go with Troy Williamson 1st because of losing Randy Moss, Derrick Alexander 2nd because of losing Warren Sapp, and Leo Hayden 3rd because he was not even close to being deserving of a draft pick in any round.

#3 - 1963 - DT Jim Dunaway - 0 - Signed with Buffalo of the AFL.  See previous post*

#7 - 1966 - DT Jerry Shay - 1 - Played for the Vikings for 4 years as a back up on the DL.
#24 - 1971 - RB Leo Hayden - 0 - 11 yards on 8 carries in 3 years.  Never started a game in college.  Enough said.

#14 - 1986 - DE Gerald Robinson - 2 - Played 2 years for the Vikings.  I remember a
3 sack performance in one game and that was it.  8 year career. 

#11 - 1994 - DE Derrick Alexander - 1 - Biggest reason he's on this list is because EVERY Viking fan wanted Warren Sapp who was selected immediately after by TB.  Injuries limited him to just 3 years, but when healthy was unspectacular to say the least.
 
#29 - 1999 - DE Dimetrius Underwood - 0 - Everyone knows this one.  Did you know he is currently residing in a prison for the mentally disturbed?  Only thing that keeps him from being the worst Viking 1st rounder ever is that he never cost the team a penny or a game.

#7 - 2005 - WR Troy Williamson - 0 - A WR that can't catch for Randy Moss.  Picking Williamson was worse than it would have been to just cut Moss outright with nothing in return.

Last edited 1/9/2008 11:08 AM by PurpleEskomo

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Posted: 1/9/2008 11:10 AM

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You forgot Darrin Nelson because we passed on Marcus Allen.  
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Posted: 1/9/2008 11:15 AM

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Darrin was too good to make the list.  If he had the kind of career Williamson or Alexander had he would be slam dunk for the top of this list though.
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Posted: 1/9/2008 11:18 AM

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 I've got some more 1st round busts for you: DE Randy Holloway had one game with 4 sacks and nothing the rest of his career, RB D.J. Dozier had a handfull of games where he contributed but nothing special and where's DE Erasmus James on your list? How about the year where we traded away our first round pick for two 2nd round picks and then selected LB Robin Sendlien and WR Mardy Mcdole who both were busts?

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Posted: 1/9/2008 11:21 AM

LOL!!!!!! 


Yeah every year everyone want to draft another DL but God forbid we EVER "waste" a 1st round pick on a QB.
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Posted: 1/9/2008 11:25 AM

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BigRussian wrote: Yeah every year everyone want to draft another DL but God forbid we EVER "waste" a 1st round pick on a QB.

 Which only happens to be the most important position on the team.
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Posted: 1/9/2008 11:25 AM

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Norseman88 wrote:

 I've got some more 1st round busts for you: DE Randy Holloway had one game with 4 sacks and nothing the rest of his career, RB D.J. Dozier had a handfull of games where he contributed but nothing special and where's DE Erasmus James on your list? How about the year where we traded away our first round pick for two 2nd round picks and then selected LB Robin Sendlien and WR Mardy Mcdole who both were busts?

I almost put Holloway on the list but he played quite few years for the team.  It was Gerald Robinson that had that one big game, not Holloway.  Erasmus is still up in the air until he comes back next year, but that 2005 draft is looking pretty bad.
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Posted: 1/9/2008 11:34 AM

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I'm sure there will be someone who says "Randy Moss" he was such a bad pickup late in the 1st
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Posted: 1/9/2008 11:35 AM

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PurpleEskomo wrote:
Norseman88 wrote:

 I've got some more 1st round busts for you: DE Randy Holloway had one game with 4 sacks and nothing the rest of his career, RB D.J. Dozier had a handfull of games where he contributed but nothing special and where's DE Erasmus James on your list? How about the year where we traded away our first round pick for two 2nd round picks and then selected LB Robin Sendlien and WR Mardy Mcdole who both were busts?

I almost put Holloway on the list but he played quite few years for the team.  It was Gerald Robinson that had that one big game, not Holloway.  Erasmus is still up in the air until he comes back next year, but that 2005 draft is looking pretty bad.

If you check the stat's Robinson had 4 sacks but Holloway also had either a 4 or 5 sack game. I remember it vividly thinking this is his breakout game and now he'll be the second coming of Carl Eller but unfortunately he disappeared after that game.
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Posted: 1/9/2008 11:46 AM

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We've had this post before....but I never tire of it.

For starters, you can't include picks from 60s. You're talking about ancient history, no scouting, 25 rounds, a rival league, etc. Secondly, it's not fair to evaluate a pick based on what someone else did later in the draft, thus picks like Derrick Alexander and Darrin Nelson don't qualify as busts simply because Warren Sapp and Marcus Allen were good picks. Neither of those guys were 'busts.' They were starters for good chunks of their stay here in Min

If we contain ourselves to first-rounders, the worst picks (in no particular order)are:

Demetrius Underwood-DE/Mental Patient
Troy Williamson-WR
DJ Dozier-RB
Gerald Robinson-DE/LB

It is worth noting that having built the franchise on the reputation of a great pass-rushing defensive line, the Vikings have largely searched the draft in vain to replace the Purple People Eaters.

Besides the aforementioned Underwood and Robinson, the Vikings used first-round picks to select the forgettable trio of James White, Randy Holloway, and Mark Mullaney in the 70s. In the 80s the Vikings went a different route, picking up Keith Millard from the USFL and converting an outside Linebacker into a DE in Chris Doleman. The best D-lineman in the post-Grant era wasn't even drafted...John Randle.

But in the 90s and beyond it was back to the draft. Besides Alexander and Underwood, Duane Clemons deserves our scorn. And recently we've added the names Kenechi Udeze and Erasmus James to the list of unsatisfying first round picks for the D-Line.

Let's hope they stay away from using their #17 pick on a D-lineman...

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Posted: 1/9/2008 12:05 PM

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ProfessorPurple wrote:

We've had this post before....but I never tire of it.

For starters, you can't include picks from 60s. You're talking about ancient history, no scouting, 25 rounds, a rival league, etc. Secondly, it's not fair to evaluate a pick based on what someone else did later in the draft, thus picks like Derrick Alexander and Darrin Nelson don't qualify as busts simply because Warren Sapp and Marcus Allen were good picks. Neither of those guys were 'busts.' They were starters for good chunks of their stay here in Min

If we contain ourselves to first-rounders, the worst picks (in no particular order)are:

Demetrius Underwood-DE/Mental Patient
Troy Williamson-WR
DJ Dozier-RB
Gerald Robinson-DE/LB

It is worth noting that having built the franchise on the reputation of a great pass-rushing defensive line, the Vikings have largely searched the draft in vain to replace the Purple People Eaters.

Besides the aforementioned Underwood and Robinson, the Vikings used first-round picks to select the forgettable trio of James White, Randy Holloway, and Mark Mullaney in the 70s. In the 80s the Vikings went a different route, picking up Keith Millard from the USFL and converting an outside Linebacker into a DE in Chris Doleman. The best D-lineman in the post-Grant era wasn't even drafted...John Randle.

But in the 90s and beyond it was back to the draft. Besides Alexander and Underwood, Duane Clemons deserves our scorn. And recently we've added the names Kenechi Udeze and Erasmus James to the list of unsatisfying first round picks for the D-Line.

Let's hope they stay away from using their #17 pick on a D-lineman...



How can you leave out Leo Hayden?  The guy was a back up with Ohio State and we picked him in the first round!

I could not disagree more about who was chosen after our pick not being important.  Considering what the consensus opinion was on the player that was passed up in the draft at the time should ABSOLUTELY weigh heavily in how poorly a draft pick should be graded. 

I'm not talking about hindsight here.  I'm talking about the Vikings going out on a limb to pick a much lower rated player over a much higher rated player.
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Posted: 1/9/2008 12:07 PM

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ProfessorPurple wrote:

We've had this post before....but I never tire of it.

For starters, you can't include picks from 60s. You're talking about ancient history, no scouting, 25 rounds, a rival league, etc. Secondly, it's not fair to evaluate a pick based on what someone else did later in the draft, thus picks like Derrick Alexander and Darrin Nelson don't qualify as busts simply because Warren Sapp and Marcus Allen were good picks. Neither of those guys were 'busts.' They were starters for good chunks of their stay here in Min

If we contain ourselves to first-rounders, the worst picks (in no particular order)are:

Demetrius Underwood-DE/Mental Patient
Troy Williamson-WR
DJ Dozier-RB
Gerald Robinson-DE/LB

It is worth noting that having built the franchise on the reputation of a great pass-rushing defensive line, the Vikings have largely searched the draft in vain to replace the Purple People Eaters.

Besides the aforementioned Underwood and Robinson, the Vikings used first-round picks to select the forgettable trio of James White, Randy Holloway, and Mark Mullaney in the 70s. In the 80s the Vikings went a different route, picking up Keith Millard from the USFL and converting an outside Linebacker into a DE in Chris Doleman. The best D-lineman in the post-Grant era wasn't even drafted...John Randle.

But in the 90s and beyond it was back to the draft. Besides Alexander and Underwood, Duane Clemons deserves our scorn. And recently we've added the names Kenechi Udeze and Erasmus James to the list of unsatisfying first round picks for the D-Line.

Let's hope they stay away from using their #17 pick on a D-lineman...


Yeah that's a pretty sad list of defensive linemen although the Vikings did draft Millard but he opted to play in the USFL for more money and they did draft Doleman and start him out as an outside LB only to successfully convert him to DE in his second year. It would appear that the Vikings draft more busts at DE than any team in NFL history, maybe they should start drafting RB's and QB's in the first round they might actually be good at it if last years draft is an indication.
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Posted: 1/9/2008 12:08 PM

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BigRussian wrote: Yeah every year everyone want to draft another DL but God forbid we EVER "waste" a 1st round pick on a QB.

Culpepper?

But we should listen to you, because all 1st round qbs pan out.

And no qbs ever picked out of the first round amount to beans.

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Posted: 1/9/2008 12:20 PM

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D UNDERDOG MICHIGAN STATE HANDS DOWN
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Posted: 1/9/2008 12:22 PM

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Didn't the Vikings also draft Bobby Bell and he went to the Chiefs instead?
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Posted: 1/9/2008 12:26 PM

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ChuckF wrote: Didn't the Vikings also draft Bobby Bell and he went to the Chiefs instead?

Must have been with a second round pick.
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Posted: 1/9/2008 12:27 PM

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Troy Williamson HANDS down
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Posted: 1/9/2008 12:46 PM

Udeze and James don't belong on any such list.... 


good grief.....

James Manley Duane Clemons are busts....Udeze is a decent contributor to the #1 rushing defense in all of football.

E.James has had injuries.....you can't be down on his play becasue he hasn't played much and what little healthy play he has had so far has been pretty good.

Players forced into early retirement because of injury, as could happen with James, ARE NOT BUSTS....Willie Howard as an example was not a bust.....neither was Michael Boireau.

A bust is a healthy player who can't cut it in the NFL for any number of reasons from legal to attitude to simply soft play.
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Posted: 1/9/2008 12:49 PM

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So D11 would you classify Charles Rogers a bust?

How about Demetrius?  It wasnt his fault he was insane...

I think, TO AN EXTENT, injuries should be taken into account when looking at the overall players contribution.

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Posted: 1/9/2008 12:50 PM

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Daunteman11 wrote: good grief.....

James Manley Duane Clemons are busts....Udeze is a decent contributor to the #1 rushing defense in all of football.

E.James has had injuries.....you can't be down on his play becasue he hasn't played much and what little healthy play he has had so far has been pretty good.

Players forced into early retirement because of injury, as could happen with James, ARE NOT BUSTS....Willie Howard as an example was not a bust.....neither was Michael Boireau.

A bust is a healthy player who can't cut it in the NFL for any number of reasons from legal to attitude to simply soft play.

Agree 100%
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Posted: 1/9/2008 1:00 PM

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Daunteman11 wrote: good grief.....

James Manley Duane Clemons are busts....Udeze is a decent contributor to the #1 rushing defense in all of football.

E.James has had injuries.....you can't be down on his play becasue he hasn't played much and what little healthy play he has had so far has been pretty good.

Players forced into early retirement because of injury, as could happen with James, ARE NOT BUSTS....Willie Howard as an example was not a bust.....neither was Michael Boireau.

A bust is a healthy player who can't cut it in the NFL for any number of reasons from legal to attitude to simply soft play.
I think an injury should be taken into account in circumstances where the player had a history of injuries in college.  It may not exactly be the players fault but it certainly would mean the team was going out on a limb to take that player. 

For example Underwood was well known to not have all his marbles at Michigan State and his coach told us so.  If Erasmus James ends his career on the DL it should not be a huge surprise to the Vikings since his biggest problem in college was his injury history.  James would (not yet) definitely qualify as a bust in this case.

Howard & Boireau had problems that could not have been anticipated thus would never be considered busts in my opinion.
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Posted: 1/9/2008 1:02 PM

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Leo Hayden over John Brockington or Underwood over Patrick Kearney..Alexander over Sapp was pretty bad too

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Posted: 1/9/2008 1:23 PM

I wouldn't put underwood in the same category as an injury 


guys because he went on to play for Dallas and didn't do squat.

I still disagree on the injury issue.....can't forsee injuries, and very few player go uninjured in college.
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Posted: 1/9/2008 1:35 PM

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Duane Clemons was no bust:
 
http://www.pro-football-refere.../C/ClemDu20.htm


49.5 sacks career sacks, including 9 for us in 1999. Not a bad player, not great, but certainly not a bust.


Daunteman11 wrote: good grief.....

James Manley Duane Clemons are busts....Udeze is a decent contributor to the #1 rushing defense in all of football.

E.James has had injuries.....you can't be down on his play becasue he hasn't played much and what little healthy play he has had so far has been pretty good.

Players forced into early retirement because of injury, as could happen with James, ARE NOT BUSTS....Willie Howard as an example was not a bust.....neither was Michael Boireau.

A bust is a healthy player who can't cut it in the NFL for any number of reasons from legal to attitude to simply soft play.
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Posted: 1/9/2008 1:37 PM

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I do not want to see the Vikings draft a DE or OL ever again, they are better off signing a DE or OL from free agency
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Posted: 1/9/2008 1:38 PM

Clemons never lived up to his draft spot..... 


and yet its probably fair to say "Bust" might be a bit strong.
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Posted: 1/9/2008 1:40 PM

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KWilliamsAWinfield wrote: I do not want to see the Vikings draft a DE or OL ever again, they are better off signing a DE or OL from free agency

We've picked many good olineman through the years, what are you talking about?

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Posted: 1/9/2008 1:42 PM

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OrangeViking wrote:
KWilliamsAWinfield wrote: I do not want to see the Vikings draft a DE or OL ever again, they are better off signing a DE or OL from free agency

We've picked many good olineman through the years, what are you talking about?

True but drafting Ryan Cook was idiotic though so that is why I don't want the Vikings to draft another offensive lineman that is projected in the 6th or 7th round but drafted him in the 2nd round
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Posted: 1/9/2008 1:44 PM

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Daunteman11 wrote: guys because he went on to play for Dallas and didn't do squat.

I still disagree on the injury issue.....can't forsee injuries, and very few player go uninjured in college.

When his college coach tells you his player is mentally unfit to play in the NFL and the guy goes nuts after you pick him in the first round it is not a failure out of the blue where the team shouldn't have seen it coming at all.  This is the team's fault and the pick should be considered a huge bust in my opinion.

I'm sure you can agree that some players are more prone to injury than others.  I'm sure you can also agree that the less durable a player is can often times be evident before he is drafted.  Drafting these players can be a big gamble that can turn into a huge bust or huge value. 

It's what allowed the Vikings to get Adrian Peterson at #7, so it's sometimes well worth the gamble.
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Posted: 1/9/2008 1:51 PM

He is a Bust....I just wouldn't call him an injury issue 


I don't think guys who get injured and can't play are the same thing as a bust.

I aslo don't blame teams for busts....I blame the player for being a bust....thats why I don't consider injuried players the same as a bust. A player can't do anything about getting hurt.....unless you can somehow show that he wasn't in shape or refused to learn proper blocking techniques over and over again which seems a pretty tall order to prove in my book.
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