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Yankey won't start this year

Posted: 7/6/2014 1:25 PM

Yankey won't start this year 


According to Vikings Territory, Yankey relied on his size in college but he lacks the athleticism to be an elite player in the NFL. Anyway, that's their opinion.

Yankey may be the only Minnesota rookie that wasn’t selected in the seventh round yet won’t see the field at all as a rookie. The experience and already-forged chemistry up front should give Charlie Johnson a big enough advantage if an actual battle does occur for the starting spot. It still seems likely that Yankey will take over Johnson’s spot at some point in the future. That could happen before the 2015 season or even two years from now, when Johnson’s contract runs out.

From everything I’ve seen of both David Yankey and Charlie Johnson, I would expect the latter to win the starting job for 2014 handily. Seeing through to the Vikings’ long-term plan is pretty clear. Yankey will be groomed to take over for Johnson as soon as he proves to be a better offensive guard, with cost a consideration.


Don’t expect David Yankey to be the second coming of Steve Hutchinson. He’s neither a tremendous athlete nor a dominant force. If some of his highlighted shortcomings can be improved upon, he can be a viable starter.






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Posted: 7/6/2014 1:29 PM

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Wow quite a bit different than the reviews I seen from people about him on here.
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Posted: 7/6/2014 1:50 PM

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In the word's of the Dude:  "Yeah, well that's just your opinion man"

Guess I'll wait and see what we hear from camp since Yankey has hardly gotten to see the field with Charlie Johnson as he had to wait to graduate.

Even if he does sit for a year or two before becoming the starter, isn't that what one should normally expect of a 5th rounder?
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Posted: 7/6/2014 2:04 PM

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For anyone to make that call,even coaches,is not legitimate at this time.Noone knows how good he will be in TC when the contact begins.How does anyone know that he might not go out in practice and start pancaking our best D lineman? It could,and has happened before.He could also be so dominant in preseason that they wont have a choice but to play him.Same could be said for TB,as well as just about anyone we drafted or signed as free agents after the draft.Nothing we've seen so far,in the underwear practices so far,can predict what may come in TC and preseason.If he is as good as his peers have said he was in college,beating out Johnson should be a cakewalk.
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Posted: 7/6/2014 2:16 PM

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I wasn't one to jump on the Yankey bandwagon. I do think he'll develop into a starter in time, but not at left guard where most seem to be projecting him. He's a much better prospect at right guard due to his size and powerful hand punch in the running game, and lack of elite footwork. Fusco has better athleticism and footwork and projects pretty well to the left side. So I see him moving here unless we find a better fit than him at left guard over the next 2 years or so.
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Posted: 7/6/2014 4:30 PM

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I was saying that Yankey was overrated a good month before we drafted him. When we got him in the 5th round I thought that was about where he should've gone and I was happy with the pick. He's good solid value there. But let's not pretend that there wasn't a good reason he didn't go in the 2nd or 3rd round. Let's not pretend that the other 31 teams were just stupid for passing on him.
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Posted: 7/6/2014 5:04 PM

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I swear this team is just determined to find every excuse in the book to keep Johnson, one of the worse LGs in the league, in the starting lineup. After 3 years of sub par play you'd think they would have learned to part ways with this back up only LG. All that has been done to improve the LG position, one of our most needed upgrading positions at that, was sign an underperforming underwhelming Veteran and draft a guy who dropped badly and is not ready to challenge for the starting gig there.
Hopefully, since we have a competent OC, CJs deficiencies can be covered up.
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Posted: 7/6/2014 5:25 PM

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No kidding. The rush to anoint this guy a starter was amazing. People were calling him the best Guard in the draft. If true, the rest of the guards must have been horrible prospects.

He was a fifth rounder. Probably for some good reasons. Let's not forget that a similar coronation was done for Chris Degeare as well. We know how that worked out.

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In the word's of the Dude:  "Yeah, well that's just your opinion man"

Guess I'll wait and see what we hear from camp since Yankey has hardly gotten to see the field with Charlie Johnson as he had to wait to graduate.

Even if he does sit for a year or two before becoming the starter, isn't that what one should normally expect of a 5th rounder?

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Posted: 7/6/2014 7:02 PM

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www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draf...on-david-yankey

I could list numerous articles placing Yankey as an elite pro prospect entering and following the draft. Let it play out and see.

I'm never one to call a kid a bust until he has a season or two under his belt.
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Posted: 7/6/2014 8:57 PM

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Here is a link to the op's thread...Very good read imo..

http://vikingsterritory.com/2014/analysis/2014-min nesota-vikings-draft-profile-david-yankey#more-685 9



SunnyinAZ wrote: According to Vikings Territory, Yankey relied on his size in college but he lacks the athleticism to be an elite player in the NFL. Anyway, that's their opinion.

Yankey may be the only Minnesota rookie that wasn’t selected in the seventh round yet won’t see the field at all as a rookie. The experience and already-forged chemistry up front should give Charlie Johnson a big enough advantage if an actual battle does occur for the starting spot. It still seems likely that Yankey will take over Johnson’s spot at some point in the future. That could happen before the 2015 season or even two years from now, when Johnson’s contract runs out.

From everything I’ve seen of both David Yankey and Charlie Johnson, I would expect the latter to win the starting job for 2014 handily. Seeing through to the Vikings’ long-term plan is pretty clear. Yankey will be groomed to take over for Johnson as soon as he proves to be a better offensive guard, with cost a consideration.


Don’t expect David Yankey to be the second coming of Steve Hutchinson. He’s neither a tremendous athlete nor a dominant force. If some of his highlighted shortcomings can be improved upon, he can be a viable starter.






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Posted: 7/6/2014 9:08 PM

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If he is not good enough to beat Johnson out of the starting job then the Vikings should just cut him now.  People say lots of things about these guys before they suit up.  I understand a little if its a WR or CB but without putting pads on you really do not know just how someone is. OL and DL we will find out next month a little better. That goes for other players too.
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Posted: 7/6/2014 9:56 PM

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I know Tiny Richardson is more of a LTD than center but if we get more of the same floundering from Johnson then we should try him out there.
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Posted: 7/6/2014 10:41 PM

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LongCobra wrote: I know Tiny Richardson is more of a LTD than center but if we get more of the same floundering from Johnson then we should try him out there.

Richardson at center?
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Posted: 7/6/2014 10:55 PM

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hauts81 wrote:
LongCobra wrote: I know Tiny Richardson is more of a LTD than center but if we get more of the same floundering from Johnson then we should try him out there.

Richardson at center?
He's never made line calls. He's 6'6", 333. He's an undrafted free agent. But, yeah, plugging him in at center would probably work in Madden so why wouldn't it work in real life?

If the 5th round guard can't step right in and make the veteran expendable, obviously the undrafted tackle probably could. Especially at a new position...
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Posted: 7/6/2014 11:04 PM

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claykenny wrote:
hauts81 wrote:
LongCobra wrote: I know Tiny Richardson is more of a LTD than center but if we get more of the same floundering from Johnson then we should try him out there.

Richardson at center?
He's never made line calls. He's 6'6", 333. He's an undrafted free agent. But, yeah, plugging him in at center would probably work in Madden so why wouldn't it work in real life?

If the 5th round guard can't step right in and make the veteran expendable, obviously the undrafted tackle probably could. Especially at a new position...

lol

i was just trying to get clarification on what he said, because neither Johnson nor Richardson are centers. so i was confused.
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Posted: 7/6/2014 11:43 PM

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hauts81 wrote:
claykenny wrote:
hauts81 wrote:
LongCobra wrote: I know Tiny Richardson is more of a LTD than center but if we get more of the same floundering from Johnson then we should try him out there.

Richardson at center?
He's never made line calls. He's 6'6", 333. He's an undrafted free agent. But, yeah, plugging him in at center would probably work in Madden so why wouldn't it work in real life?

If the 5th round guard can't step right in and make the veteran expendable, obviously the undrafted tackle probably could. Especially at a new position...

lol

i was just trying to get clarification on what he said, because neither Johnson nor Richardson are centers. so i was confused.
I was agreeing with you. Sorry. I should have quoted the original to avoid confusion.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 12:15 AM

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Well Baca & Berger couldn't beat Johnson out last year and Yankey & Ducasse probably won't this year so who does that leave as O-line backups, OTs who can't play OG?  
ugotbud222 wrote: If he is not good enough to beat Johnson out of the starting job then the Vikings should just cut him now.  People say lots of things about these guys before they suit up.  I understand a little if its a WR or CB but without putting pads on you really do not know just how someone is. OL and DL we will find out next month a little better. That goes for other players too.
Who is that man, and why is his enthusiasm not being punished?
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Posted: 7/7/2014 5:28 AM

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I think you could be right.  The chemistry is a big issue and if the Viking do start Fusco and Johnson at guard it will be three years of the same starting 5 which generally is a good sign for a team.

Bring in Ducasse, Smuda and drafting Yankey tells me that the vikings want to be stronger and meaner in the middle of the ol. 

CJohnson is a solid performer who gets bullied from time to time.  Fusco is a tough guy who gets over powered from time to time.  Sully too is a smart guy who can get beat physically from time to time.  The competition is in place to either drive these guys to perform better or get guys in there that fits the bigger tough guy image that Zimmer has said he likes.

Ducasses is a physically gifted 320lber who has not played football as long as most NFLers his age.  This means a lot time in the game, most of us played youth football, most NFLers also played youth football which means we were around it for years before college.  At the College level guys are developing physically in major ways.   Sometimes someone more phyically developed can come in and play in a manner that negates the experience.  This is not the case when that guy gets to the NFL.  Ducasse found that out.. No longer was it a out his size and strength he had to know what to do.  He struggled maybe this group of coaches can get him to play with in a system that fits his tools. If so he is probably the most physically gifted interior OL guy on our roster. Next is David Yankey... Stanford was great running and in pass defense last year.  Yankey played LT, and both OG spots at points during his career.  He is a top level recruit. BEcause he slid in the draft people have started to look for problems.  They are stating that it was his movement and that he is more of a physical player and less of a technique guy... Mainly because he was less than expected at the combine.  He suffered from the same thing that the center from alabama suffered from the year before.  He did everything he could in college to help his team win, showed up on the field every game and played injured he did not recover fully by the time the combine came around and was not as prepared as he wanted to be.  My guess is he still needs to get 100% healthy.  He now has better trainers.

It could be correct that Yankey does not start right away for the Vikings  but it is not because Johnson is better, it is simply as said here, he has the chemistry.

CJohnson has hit his roof and he will not now become something different.  Ducasse and Yankey both are guys who are able to get better and if they do one of them will remove Johnson from the starting job and move him to the position that fits him best. Swing OL, the first guy to come in regardless of position. Fusco still has the ability to get better and he is getting better every year. I think it  will be hard to remove him from the starting job. But if he does continue to get man handled at points it maybe worth it for the VIkings to get a bigger guy at RT.  Fusco really is a center and I think it would fit him pefectly to play center and have a big tough guy like Ducasse (if he performs up to par) next to him at RG.
SunnyinAZ wrote: According to Vikings Territory, Yankey relied on his size in college but he lacks the athleticism to be an elite player in the NFL. Anyway, that's their opinion.

Yankey may be the only Minnesota rookie that wasn’t selected in the seventh round yet won’t see the field at all as a rookie. The experience and already-forged chemistry up front should give Charlie Johnson a big enough advantage if an actual battle does occur for the starting spot. It still seems likely that Yankey will take over Johnson’s spot at some point in the future. That could happen before the 2015 season or even two years from now, when Johnson’s contract runs out.

From everything I’ve seen of both David Yankey and Charlie Johnson, I would expect the latter to win the starting job for 2014 handily. Seeing through to the Vikings’ long-term plan is pretty clear. Yankey will be groomed to take over for Johnson as soon as he proves to be a better offensive guard, with cost a consideration.


Don’t expect David Yankey to be the second coming of Steve Hutchinson. He’s neither a tremendous athlete nor a dominant force. If some of his highlighted shortcomings can be improved upon, he can be a viable starter.






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Posted: 7/7/2014 8:43 AM

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Why are people surprised by this article?  5th round picks rarely start in their rookie year.  Yankey might develop into a starting NFL LG or he might not.  I didn't want to use a top pick on a LG with our holes at QB and defense which is why the GM should have addressed LG in free agency.  Instead, we re-signed CJ and Vlad who was a bust with the Jets.  The middle of our OL has been a sieve on pass protection for years and it looks like we're bringing back the same interior lineman for a three peat.  I hope our rookie QB really has that quick release that I keep reading about.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 10:25 AM

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Interesting thought. The idea of two road graders on the right side and two athletes on the left has a nice symmetry.

I wonder if Baca could be our swing backup C/G for a couple years, then be ready to take over center if Sully starts showing his age after 30 (he is now 28). Baca is under size for guard but is exactly Sullivan's size and, as a UCLA grad, likely has the smarts for center. When he came out of college, some had him ranked as the second best center prospect even though he played guard his senior year.

If he is healthy enough (a big "if") Richardson could do something similar, serving as a backup at OT, then being ready to step in at RT if Loadholt shows his age in a couple years (he is also 28).

I'm liking our depth and experience on the O-Line.
LongtimeVikesFan wrote: I wasn't one to jump on the Yankey bandwagon. I do think he'll develop into a starter in time, but not at left guard where most seem to be projecting him. He's a much better prospect at right guard due to his size and powerful hand punch in the running game, and lack of elite footwork. Fusco has better athleticism and footwork and projects pretty well to the left side. So I see him moving here unless we find a better fit than him at left guard over the next 2 years or so.
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