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Bridgewater vs. Manziel

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Posted: 6/29/2014 1:51 PM

Bridgewater vs. Manziel 


BridgeH2O is home studying his playbook.

Manziel is in Vegas partying.


Who's gonna win?
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Posted: 6/29/2014 1:53 PM

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Hard to say. I think both could be very good pro QBs.
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Posted: 6/29/2014 1:57 PM

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I'll take the dude who works hard


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Posted: 6/29/2014 2:01 PM

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I don't see Manziel being very successful in the NFL.

He never played under Center.
He never had to call protections, blitzes, or audibles.
He never had a playbook.
He routinely missed wide open WR's.  Instead of taking the easy throw, he would hold the ball trying to force it downfield for the big play.  
He doesn't go through his reads very well and get the ball out on time.
He has a pretty mediocre arm and very inconsistent mechanics.  Throws off his back foot a lot and is an arm thrower.  
He lacks the work ethic needed in the NFL - he'll show up and work hard when he's supposed to, but he's not going to home and study the playbook or break down film in his spare time like TB does.  
Given his playing style & size, he'll end up getting pummeled just like RG3 and Mike Vick.

JFF has talent and the "it factor", but he's light-years behind TB IMO.  TB has a huge advantage playing in a pro style offense for 3 seasons where he called audibles and protection adjustments, went through his reads, and works his butt off.

I think it's TB in a landslide, and I'm not just playing the Homer card here ... given that JFF's priorities are clearly all about him, and not his team.
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Posted: 6/29/2014 2:01 PM

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MrMinnesotaViking wrote: BridgeH2O is home studying his playbook.

Manziel is in Vegas partying.


Who's gonna win?
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Posted: 6/29/2014 2:17 PM

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At least Teddy doesn't have to play under Musgrave,the worlds worst offensive coordinator.He single handedly almost ruined all our qb's while he was here.Could you imagine if Bridgewater had him as his OC? A rookie qb who could outcoach a team's OC any day of the week,pathetic!
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Posted: 6/29/2014 3:20 PM

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For Browns Fans? They've been through a lot (a real lot) over the years..For their sake I hope JFF turns out to be a great QB...

For us? I hope Teddy becomes the next face of the franchise and makes us competitive at the qb spot in a division that has Aaron Rogers a future HOF in it. 

For JFF? I hope the kid stays safe, matures quickly and has a long productive, healthy career

For those that want to hate? Go on hating...noidea

Peace out.....cool

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Posted: 6/29/2014 3:30 PM

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Put me down for one of that wanted Foozeball,but so far Bridheh20 looks like the better choice...
"momma said viking foozeball is the devil"
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Posted: 6/29/2014 3:36 PM

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You guys should stop worrying about another teams QB.  

We have bigger fish to fry in MN.

Besides...  Read this...

http://www.cleveland.com/brown...s_vegas_po.html
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Posted: 6/29/2014 4:50 PM

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Don't know nuthin about the Browns. I do feel the Vikes are in for a tuff couple of years. Hopefully TB doesn't get thrown into a situation that he is not ready for.
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Posted: 6/29/2014 7:18 PM

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BOIDEE wrote: Don't know nuthin about the Browns. I do feel the Vikes are in for a tuff couple of years. Hopefully TB doesn't get thrown into a situation that he is not ready for.
What tough years?  You mean the 8 of 10 we just went through?  The Vikings now have new professional grade coaches, many new UFAs, 7 first rounders in 3 years, dumping the outmoded T2 D, losing Musgraves' ten play offense, players actually being coached and developed.  It may take time for all of this to gel into an elite team.  That is true.  But can ANY Viking fan possibly call watching all these parts flow together into the kind of team that drew us in as fans "tuff years?"?  To me, "Tough years" are the kind that produce no hope, no excitement, no entertainment, and no player development.  We've had a decade of that garbage.  Now I could be wrong but I believe 2013 was the last of those type "tuff" years.  2014 will be the year the Vikings return to respectability and 2015 could be the year they return to elite.  If not 2015, certainly 2016, just in time for the SB in our own stadium.   

For ten years now we have ended almost every season with virtually no expectation the next year would produce any different result.  This year is different.  For the first time in that decade, I have hope things ARE changing.  I'll take your definition of "tuff years" if they are what I expect -- "Tuff years with HOPE!"
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Posted: 6/29/2014 7:59 PM

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I think they both suceed in different ways.

So much talk about Johnny not staying in Cleveland. He is not and doesn't want to be a resident due to taxes. So every non required football day he will be out of state. There are a lot of in state days during season (camp/PS/season etc) so he has to not spend more than 182 days in state.
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Posted: 6/30/2014 12:02 AM

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I really do think both of these guys are going to have very good NFL careers.  Both have a ton of great physical tools that can't be taught and both also have a very high football IQ.  I really liked both of them a lot at the draft, at this point I just hope Bridgewater ends up being the better one, but at this point it's too early to tell.
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Posted: 6/30/2014 1:36 AM

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Yeah, Johnny looks pretty worried about his "taxes" here:

Johnny working on his 1040 form.

plunderingpurple wrote: I think they both suceed in different ways.

So much talk about Johnny not staying in Cleveland. He is not and doesn't want to be a resident due to taxes. So every non required football day he will be out of state. There are a lot of in state days during season (camp/PS/season etc) so he has to not spend more than 182 days in state.
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Posted: 6/30/2014 6:24 AM

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I don't have a link, but I heard Cassell interviewed and he stated they would get done practice like at 2 and be studying the playbook til 8 or 9pm.
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MrMinnesotaViking wrote: BridgeH2O is home studying his playbook.

Manziel is in Vegas partying.


Who's gonna win?

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Posted: 6/30/2014 6:32 AM

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purplefaithful wrote:
For Browns Fans? They've been through a lot (a real lot) over the years..For their sake I hope JFF turns out to be a great QB...

For us? I hope Teddy becomes the next face of the franchise and makes us competitive at the qb spot in a division that has Aaron Rogers a future HOF in it. 

For JFF? I hope the kid stays safe, matures quickly and has a long productive, healthy career

For those that want to hate? Go on hating...noidea

Peace out.....cool
I can go along with this statement... But those can go along with calling me a hater. I believe for me its more dislike for his attitude....I got to thinking why should I care if others consider me a hater. Why isn't it ok for one to dislike one because he likes to party more than play. I am joking. I believe the media is bringing a lot of this up. BUt he brings on that persona onto himself. For me he looks like that spoiled little rich kid who always got what he wanted.

1. I hope he matures

2. I hope with that that he becomes productive. I Just want Bridgewater to be a lot better and believe  he will.

3.  Hope he is good for Cleveland, They need someone who can bring that change to the Browns.

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Posted: 6/30/2014 8:21 AM

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I don't know who will win but then again I also don't let a couple of photos or media stories tell me what my opinion should be.  Heck for all we know TB might be downing a case of beer while he is home studying his playbook.

I really think they will both be pretty good QBs but right not nobody outside Minnesota cares about TB but with JFF there will always be a story, especially from those that love to see folks at the top fall.
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Posted: 6/30/2014 8:32 AM

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Had he played for Bama you'd be defending him but since he beat Bama you dislike the guy. There is nothing wrong with that because its your opinion. Who is the decider of exactly what the perfect attitude is? He is polarizing. Tebow was polarizing too and supposedly had a good attitude yet the press followed him like a hawk too. Press is a business and only make money when people read their articles or click on a story. The internet and Twitter and. Facebook make their job easier than 10-20 years ago. If you were famous and had some words with an incompetent cashier at Home Depot you would be plastered in the press and made out to be a bad guy by folks who don't even know you.

How can you say he has a bad attitude when you don't even know him? Because the press told you to, it sells better.

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purplefaithful wrote:
For Browns Fans? They've been through a lot (a real lot) over the years..For their sake I hope JFF turns out to be a great QB...

For us? I hope Teddy becomes the next face of the franchise and makes us competitive at the qb spot in a division that has Aaron Rogers a future HOF in it. 

For JFF? I hope the kid stays safe, matures quickly and has a long productive, healthy career

For those that want to hate? Go on hating...noidea

Peace out.....cool
I can go along with this statement... But those can go along with calling me a hater. I believe for me its more dislike for his attitude....I got to thinking why should I care if others consider me a hater. Why isn't it ok for one to dislike one because he likes to party more than play. I am joking. I believe the media is bringing a lot of this up. BUt he brings on that persona onto himself. For me he looks like that spoiled little rich kid who always got what he wanted.

1. I hope he matures

2. I hope with that that he becomes productive. I Just want Bridgewater to be a lot better and believe  he will.

3.  Hope he is good for Cleveland, They need someone who can bring that change to the Browns.

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Posted: 6/30/2014 8:49 AM

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Nailed it....


This applies to alot more than just Manziel. 
plunderingpurple wrote:
Had he played for Bama you'd be defending him but since he beat Bama you dislike the guy. There is nothing wrong with that because its your opinion. Who is the decider of exactly what the perfect attitude is? He is polarizing. Tebow was polarizing too and supposedly had a good attitude yet the press followed him like a hawk too. Press is a business and only make money when people read their articles or click on a story. The internet and Twitter and. Facebook make their job easier than 10-20 years ago. If you were famous and had some words with an incompetent cashier at Home Depot you would be plastered in the press and made out to be a bad guy by folks who don't even know you.

How can you say he has a bad attitude when you don't even know him? Because the press told you to, it sells better.

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purplefaithful wrote:
For Browns Fans? They've been through a lot (a real lot) over the years..For their sake I hope JFF turns out to be a great QB...

For us? I hope Teddy becomes the next face of the franchise and makes us competitive at the qb spot in a division that has Aaron Rogers a future HOF in it. 

For JFF? I hope the kid stays safe, matures quickly and has a long productive, healthy career

For those that want to hate? Go on hating...noidea

Peace out.....cool
I can go along with this statement... But those can go along with calling me a hater. I believe for me its more dislike for his attitude....I got to thinking why should I care if others consider me a hater. Why isn't it ok for one to dislike one because he likes to party more than play. I am joking. I believe the media is bringing a lot of this up. BUt he brings on that persona onto himself. For me he looks like that spoiled little rich kid who always got what he wanted.

1. I hope he matures

2. I hope with that that he becomes productive. I Just want Bridgewater to be a lot better and believe  he will.

3.  Hope he is good for Cleveland, They need someone who can bring that change to the Browns.

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Posted: 6/30/2014 8:55 AM

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Change the name and you'd likely get these board opinions

Bridgewater playing Madden - hard worker, studying playbook, committed
Manziel playing Madden - lazy, slacker, selfish, bad teammate
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