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Realistic outlook for 2014 Vikings

Posted: 6/4/2014 5:38 PM

Realistic outlook for 2014 Vikings 


Lots of new and exciting changes for the purple this year, many of which I like. I'm very pleased with the new coaching staff that's in place and think they will lead this team to better places. With that comes the annual ritual of what this year's team will do. First, I see the division as becoming one of the better ones in the NFL. With that improvement, comes greater challenges. I think that first, you must right the ship. We have made some solid personnel mover along with the draft that will help the talent level and fill some holes. That being said, I think that challenging for the division though a noble goal is still a year away. New coaches, new systems take time to mature and to expect a whole lot more than maybe 8-8 may not be realistic. Of course I'd be thrilled with something better but I feel this team is being built for the long ride and not a drag race. We as fans (me for 46 years) need to be a little patient and let the new regime work their magic.
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Posted: 6/4/2014 6:16 PM

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I expect a minimum of 10 wins and the division title.Considering the difference between the division champ and 4th place last year,was 2 wins and a tie.Had Musgrave pulled his head out of Leslie's arse long enough to properly gameplan the 4th quarter in Lambeau,we win that game and I'm not sure the pack even make the playoffs.Those facts aside,we did just as much,if not more than the other three to strengthen our weakspots across the board this offseason.If Zimmer has the defense playing at least competent,in comparison to the outdated cover2,we will at least split with the other three in division.It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that our offense,regardless of who starts at qb,will be 10x better than the horror show we showed under BM last year.If the offense just plays with competence,as well as doesn't let up the throttle when you have an inferior opponent down(bears and browns games) like last year,we will be a top 5-10 offense all season.There is no reason we cannot at least split in division,or better,and be good enough every week to not only compete with but beat anyone we face.
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Posted: 6/4/2014 6:39 PM

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i thnik 8-8...with better a possibility if we survive the first part of the season
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Posted: 6/4/2014 9:41 PM

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8 and 8 is very optimistic
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Posted: 6/4/2014 9:42 PM

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I would say 8-8 is a realistic expectation and I will be happy with that record compared to what we did last year.
10 wins is crazy talk.
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Posted: 6/4/2014 10:03 PM

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Finishing .500 would be a realistic expectation IMO. Especially given the franchise has been a North bottom feeder 3 of the past 4 seasons.

Couple that with new systems, new coaches and lots of new players and .500 feels right and not too much Kool Aid being consumed.

Vegas has em at 6 wins or 6.5? I'll take the over on that bet

I expect the first half of the year may be a bit ugly and hopefully they finish strong and with clear improvement in December vs September. Let's hope some of the new kids on the block prove they can effectively compete in the big leagues - especially #5.

IMO this is a set up year for making a North Title push in 15.
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Posted: 6/4/2014 10:07 PM

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I don't know how you account for the coaching changes.  That's the big wild card for both the Vikings and Lions this season.   I'd like to think that Zimmer and his staff will make a huge difference, but until I see them actually play a regular season game, I have to count them as neutral - neither improving nor making the team worse.
  
Given a neutral change from coaching, I don't see how this team wins any more than 6 or 7 games next year.   A lot of talent; but very young talent at that.   Everybody is expecting Bridgewater and Barr to come in like wildfire; but realistically it's going to take them time to adjust. Heck, a lot of fans are expecting our later round draft choices to be instant all pros, too. If all that happens then, yeah, this team could do great things.   But I'm expecting the great things to occur more in the 2015-16 range.
  
I don't see the NFCNorth as all that improved.   There's a severe lack of good defense in the entire division.   I think the Vikings can win maybe 3 of their 6 games against thier NFC opponents next year; but only if Aaron Rodgers and Jay Cutler are hurt again. If Rodgers plays the whole season, it might be hard for any of the NFC North teams to beat them this year.   Mostly because none of the teams play good defense.
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Posted: 6/4/2014 11:11 PM

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I expect some struggles early on adjusting to the new system on both sides of the ball. Will be an adjustment period for vets. Our personnel if fine, I truly believe that. It's as good as the other teams in our division. And I think we have the best head coach in the division now. So something like 3-5 in the first half and 5-3 in the 2nd sounds about right to me.
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Posted: 6/5/2014 12:26 AM

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If unlucky (-10 or more TOs) I see us at about 4-12 - 6-10
-5 to -10 TOs I see us at 5-11 to 7-9
Even to -5 TOs I see 6-10 to 8-8
Even to + 5 TOs I see 8-8- 9-7
+5 to +10 I see 9-7 to 10-6
+10 to + 15 TOs I see 10-6 to 12-4

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Last edited 6/5/2014 12:28 AM by godhead

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Posted: 6/5/2014 12:29 AM

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It depends on two things 

1) Will Bridgewater start day 1?
2) Can Zimmer make our LB corps and Secondary at least average?

If the answer to both questions is yes then 9-7 should be our goal. If the answer to both questions is no then look for a repeat of last year.

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Posted: 6/5/2014 12:54 AM

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First 6 weeks or so is brutal... I could see them starting 2-4 and then playing .500 ball the rest of the way... 7-9 right now... One bonus about the tough start is that they are mostly against offense oriented teams...
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Posted: 6/5/2014 3:34 AM

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Considering the Vikings gave away their first game because it was the VIkings preseason, and the next two were won on the last play after leading early. And won 3 of their last 5 games. I think realistically a lot can be done.

A different coaching staff that may have created a better sense of urgency in the lockerroom may have started the season 2 and 1, and may have held leads in two other games and not lost the cowboy game last minute. But the cowboy game as a good one overall so lets say it is not unrealistic for the Vikings to have won three more games last year.

that would have meant that it was not unrealistic that three plays would have given the Vikings a 8-7-1 record last year.

This year the schedule is tough and the Vikings will be tested by the Rams, PAtriots, Saints, Falcons and Packers in the first five games. These five games will set the tone.

Their first four games are two on the road and two at home. I expect to win one on the road and believe the VIkings can beat the Falcons at home. The Patriots game is one to look at because realistically the PAts have to be favored. LAst year Zimmer's defense frustrated the Patriots and held them to only 6 points in Cincy. Zimmer will want to make a statement with his first home opener, I think the VIkings can win that game.

3-1 in first four.

Second four games are 1 at home and 3 on the road. Road games are Packers, Buffalo and Tampa and the home game is the Lions.

I believe the Lions are going to struggle more than people think they will with the new coaching at least early. This is a very talented team that has drafted well but mindset is interesting here and while I will call for the Vikings to have s smooth mindset change I predict that Lions will struggle early and come on late. Packers at Lambeau 2 October... that would be a great game to see.
Buffalo and Tampa are not as well off as the media will have you believe. A lot is new in Buffalo and Tampa as well.
I expect the VIkings to go 2 and 2 during the second four games. I believe they can be 3 and 1 but think there maybe a bit of trouble on the road in tampa, but Lions at home and Buffalo I think The Viking get.

So at mid point of the season I expect the VIkings to be 5-3 with a strong case of being 6-2. Optimistic for sure but not as blinded as people might believe.

The next four games are Washington, Chicago, Green Bay and Carolina. 4-0 3 at home and 1 on the road and the one on the road is Chicago... all 4 victories. 9-3

Final four games Jets, Lions, Dolphins, Bears. 3-1 = 12 - 4 NFC champs, first round bye.

So lets look at it from the glasses of the media Viking should be 0-4 in their first 4 games and maybe 1-7 by mid point. AFter the mid point they expect the VIkings to go 4-4 and end up 5-11 again. I believe that the Vikings were not as bad as their 5 win last season, they were poorly coached and they got better in key spots in the offseason. DT, CB for sure on defense, DC for sure is better. LG could be better and QB should be better... 3 plays gave us 8 wins last season I think the VIkings will earn those three plays this year.

My true expectation of the season is 11-5 and play offs.
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Posted: 6/5/2014 7:18 AM

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Bawookles wrote: I would say 8-8 is a realistic expectation and I will be happy with that record compared to what we did last year.
10 wins is crazy talk.
Ten wins was also 'crazy talk' in 2012, coming off a 3-13 season. How'd that turn out?
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Posted: 6/5/2014 7:40 AM

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Embarrassed by the pack in the playoffs. 

But I see what you are saying, anything can happen.  I have a good feeling about this season and can't wait for it to begin.  10 wins would be pretty sweet.

thelongrun wrote:
Bawookles wrote: I would say 8-8 is a realistic expectation and I will be happy with that record compared to what we did last year.
10 wins is crazy talk.
Ten wins was also 'crazy talk' in 2012, coming off a 3-13 season. How'd that turn out?
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Posted: 6/5/2014 7:53 AM

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I think 8-8 is pretty lofty because of all the things mentioned above plus every home game is outdoors and we don't play well generally over the years.  Their was a stat for teams that had to play in temporary stadiums and they were not good.  I think Vegas would have us at around 7.5 - 8 wins if we weren't playing at the University stadium.
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Posted: 6/5/2014 8:08 AM

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It is tough because I do think the Vikings could easily have been 8-8 last year...which would have put them bizarrely in a position to win the division.

But they definitely had a down year.

You know who else had down years, given their talent?

EVERY TEAM IN THE NFC NORTH!

Which is why I have no idea.  I think the Vikings will be better, but so will the Packers (still the favorites); Bears; and Lions.  So the Vikings will win six to nine games I think, but they are not going to win the division, or be a Wild Card.


bluesmanny wrote: Lots of new and exciting changes for the purple this year, many of which I like. I'm very pleased with the new coaching staff that's in place and think they will lead this team to better places. With that comes the annual ritual of what this year's team will do. First, I see the division as becoming one of the better ones in the NFL. With that improvement, comes greater challenges. I think that first, you must right the ship. We have made some solid personnel mover along with the draft that will help the talent level and fill some holes. That being said, I think that challenging for the division though a noble goal is still a year away. New coaches, new systems take time to mature and to expect a whole lot more than maybe 8-8 may not be realistic. Of course I'd be thrilled with something better but I feel this team is being built for the long ride and not a drag race. We as fans (me for 46 years) need to be a little patient and let the new regime work their magic.
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Posted: 6/5/2014 8:09 AM

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I expect a minimum of 10 wins and the division title.Considering the difference between the division champ and 4th place last year,was 2 wins and a tie.Had Musgrave pulled his head out of Leslie's arse long enough to properly gameplan the 4th quarter in Lambeau,we win that game and I'm not sure the pack even make the playoffs.Those facts aside,we did just as much,if not more than the other three to strengthen our weakspots across the board this offseason.If Zimmer has the defense playing at least competent,in comparison to the outdated cover2,we will at least split with the other three in division.It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that our offense,regardless of who starts at qb,will be 10x better than the horror show we showed under BM last year.If the offense just plays with competence,as well as doesn't let up the throttle when you have an inferior opponent down(bears and browns games) like last year,we will be a top 5-10 offense all season.There is no reason we cannot at least split in division,or better,and be good enough every week to not only compete with but beat anyone we face.

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Had Rodgers not been injured the difference would have been much greater. We still a suspect secondary and line backing corp. I would say 8-8 would be a success.
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Posted: 6/5/2014 9:51 AM

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bluesmanny wrote: Lots of new and exciting changes for the purple this year, many of which I like. I'm very pleased with the new coaching staff that's in place and think they will lead this team to better places. With that comes the annual ritual of what this year's team will do. First, I see the division as becoming one of the better ones in the NFL. With that improvement, comes greater challenges. I think that first, you must right the ship. We have made some solid personnel mover along with the draft that will help the talent level and fill some holes. That being said, I think that challenging for the division though a noble goal is still a year away. New coaches, new systems take time to mature and to expect a whole lot more than maybe 8-8 may not be realistic. Of course I'd be thrilled with something better but I feel this team is being built for the long ride and not a drag race. We as fans (me for 46 years) need to be a little patient and let the new regime work their magic.
Realism is in the eyes of the one writing it.

A realistic view to some might be ten wins others 6.

I don't disagree with you personally..

I don't believe the Vikes  will make the playoffs, but don't feel its an impossibility either. I feel confident in this coaching staff, feel we are young and getting talent. But believe its going to be a work in progress.

I believe that we will be improved this year, I think we will be very competitive next year, but believe 2016 will be the year we will contend for the Superbowl. Some won't have the patience to wait.

Could we do it sooner,possible, but I am looking at this realistically.

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Posted: 6/5/2014 10:25 AM

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thelongrun wrote:
Ten wins was also 'crazy talk' in 2012, coming off a 3-13 season. How'd that turn out?
It was incredibly improbable, and not many saw it coming.  Sure there were a few posters on here that called for 10 wins and then thumped their chests proudly when it came to be.  But those same posters most likely called for 12 or 14 wins in 2013, how'd that turn out?  It's easy to be a homer and make unrealistic predictions, or a Debby Downer and say we're only winning 3 games every year.  Most of the time you are going to be wrong, but in those aberration years both of these extremes (the purple kool-aids and the pessimists) love to shout about how right they were.

Growing up, I went to the same barber for over a decade.  He was a huge Lions fan and would tell me every year that they were going to win the division.  He was wrong nearly every time: from 1984 to today they have only taken it twice (1991 and 1993) - but man you should've heard him go on and on about how right he was those two years, completely ignoring all the years he wasn't even close.  That's what the 2012 10-6 predictors reminded me of.  Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.  No reasonable analyst, fan, or even coach on that team would've thought they could get 10 wins if they were being perfectly honest.  Peterson willed a very mediocre squad to that record.

Back on topic, I think this breath of fresh air gets our team heading in the right direction.  We lost so many games last year in the final minute, it was just absurd.  I think this is the year we realize we have more talent on our roster than we thought, it was just being horribly underutilized.  I'm going to go with 8 or 9 wins.
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Posted: 6/5/2014 12:01 PM

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8 - 8 would be a big improvement and I would take it in a heartbeat.

LBs are set to improve, but it is still going to be a weak area with poor depth at OLB.

I think CB will be the biggest improvement area on the team.
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