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R.J. Stanford Starting this week

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Posted: 10/3/2012 3:01 PM

R.J. Stanford Starting this week 


Apparently from a few dolphins reporters  R.J. Stanford is starting in practice along with Sean Smith..

I haven't read too much into this guy but he did play at Utah alongside Sean Smith, Maybe this will be the jumpstart we need at CB. I don't think anyone could play much worse then what we have seen from Marshall/Caroll right now.
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Posted: 10/3/2012 3:31 PM

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marshall sat out practice because of his injury [back issues] like he did last week ,
thats what i have been hearing by a few people
but i maybe wrong//!!!!

IT DOES make you wonder if stanford will start or be involved as we added another cb to the roster off our PS

but i agree with you on carroll and marshall been poor!

when we get some good depth at corner [next year i hope]
marshall should be moved to FS where he did very well previously with the cards

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Posted: 10/3/2012 3:55 PM

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What happened to Nolan Carrol and the kid from Montana with the legal troubles in college?
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Posted: 10/3/2012 6:48 PM

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Carrol isn't very good and Jimmy Wilson is playing safety I think and IMO better suited to stay there. Not sure I like a new no name guy starting at CB against a good QB but maybe Sanford will make a name for himself
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Posted: 10/4/2012 3:00 PM

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We are doing the same thing with Wilson we did with Jason Allen, continually switching his positions so he ends up not being very good at either.

He was moved to safety to challenge Clemons, now they lost some cornerbacks so they move him back.. Move him to one spot and stick with it would be my advice. I think he showed some promise at CB and i would leave him there..

Carrol is athletically gifted but i dont know if he will ever be a very good CB, Still waiting on him 4 years later.
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Posted: 10/4/2012 9:57 PM

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The CB they promoted from the p squad played qb at Appalachian State, has no NFL experience at CB.
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Posted: 10/5/2012 9:23 AM

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This is not good news.



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Posted: 10/5/2012 10:56 AM

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dave7 wrote: The CB they promoted from the p squad played qb at Appalachian State, has no NFL experience at CB.
and we had guys in for a work out 2 weeks ago ,and jeff ireland didnt want to sign any of them
one of them signed for the jets 2 days ago and will prob start for them in the near future



why????
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Posted: 10/5/2012 12:23 PM

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DAVIE, Fla. — The Dolphins rank 30th in the 32-team NFL in pass defense. Conversely, they rank No. 1 in the league in rush defense.

Dolphins coach Joe Philbin has a pretty good idea what that means.

"Some offensive coordinators in the league, or some head coaches, are going to say, ‘Why are we running the ball against these guys?' " he theorized.

He's right. Teams have attempted 172 passes against Miami, most in the NFL.

In light of such damning evidence, it'd be fair to say the Dolphins secondary of cornerbacks Sean Smith and Richard Marshall, and safeties Chris Clemons and Reshad Jones are struggling.

The Dolphins have allowed three 100-yard receivers in four games – Houston's Andre Johnson, the New York Jets' Santonio Holmes and Arizona's Andre Roberts – and they've allowed three others more than 80 yards.

"There haven't been too many big plays, it's been yards after the catch, guys have been catching the ball and running," Jones said. "We just have to do a better job tackling guys."

On Sunday, Miami travels to Cincinnati to face the Bengals' passing duo of quarterback Andy Dalton and wide receiver A.J. Green, one of NFL's most dangerous up-and-coming combinations. They rank seventh in passing offense at 279 yards per game. Dalton is the league's fifth-rated passer and Green is second in receiving yards (428) and second in yards per game (107).

"He's very explosive," Smith said of Green. "He's constantly winning 1-on-1 battles. ... He's somebody whose featured in their offense and, just like (Larry) Fitzgerald and Andre (Johnson), you have to be aware of where he's at at all times."

The secondary's problems are enough to make some wonder why Miami traded cornerback Vontae Davis, a four-year starter, to Indianapolis during training camp. The answer, however, seems obvious.

Davis, a first-round pick in 2009, under-performed for years, and apparently it's still going on now. ProFootballFocus.com has Davis rated 83rd in the NFL, two spots behind Marshall.

The problem is Miami's answer to Davis' absence — cornerbacks Nolan Carroll and safety Jimmy Wilson — has been inadequate. They play mostly in the nickel (five-defensive back) and dime (six-defensive back) formations and although both have flashed good cover skills neither is consistent.

For now the best coverage plan for Miami is good pressure up front. If the pass rush makes Dalton, or any quarterback, feel their presence the secondary has a chance for success. Miami is tied for 12th with 12 sacks, and largely because of that, is tied for ninth with five interceptions.

Outside linebacker Cameron Wake (4.5 sacks) has been effective at causing nightmares for right tackles, and defensive end Randy Starks (three sacks) has been pressing interior linemen.

But things get dicey if there's no pass rush.

Smith is having a good year. He has two interceptions, both coming in last week's 24-21 overtime loss at Arizona, and he did a good job limiting Fitzgerald (eight receptions, 64 yards, one touchdown), one of the NFL's best.

Marshall, who has been battling back problems all season and didn't practice Thursday, is a different story. Holmes and Roberts got the bulk of their yardage against him. Marshall, not Clemons, was largely to blame for Roberts' 46-yard touchdown last week. Philbin said he needed to be in better position.

"Obviously, (he) got beat deep," said Philbin, who hasn't been shy about naming the guilty party on many plays. "The guy made a little hint to the outside and got by him."

The safeties haven't been much better as they've consistently allowed receivers to get behind them, which is a sin at that position.

Miami has allowed 16 passing plays of more than 20 yards, which is tied for sixth-worst in the league, and three plays of 40 or more yards, which is tied for third-worst.

Two of those 30-plus plays are for more than 60 yards.

"There are going to be some pass completions, you have to realize that," Philbin said, "but you just have to limit the explosiveness of those passes."


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Posted: 10/5/2012 12:26 PM

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juju07 wrote:
dave7 wrote: The CB they promoted from the p squad played qb at Appalachian State, has no NFL experience at CB.
and we had guys in for a work out 2 weeks ago ,and jeff ireland didnt want to sign any of them
one of them signed for the jets 2 days ago and will prob start for them in the near future



why????
Because Ireland believes he can get more production out of somebody who has been in our defensive system since August? Obviously we are severely depleted at CB, but if you think any FA out there can just put on a jersey and be an upgrade, I'm going to have to disagree with you, even if they are more talented or polished.

How has Vontae Davis played since he was thrown into a brand new system and had to learn on the go? He's the worst rated CB in the NFL, and he's far more talented than anybody we would pick up (and anybody on our roster except Smith for that matter.)

Like you said, Ireland has brought guys in for workouts, and he certainly knows the situation of the team's secondary. If he was impressed by the workouts he saw, we would have signed someone.
Somebody gave me a Hickey.
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Posted: 10/5/2012 12:30 PM

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In what world would it be "fair to say" that Sean Smith or Reshad Jones are struggling. Smith just went head to head with Fitz and looked better doing so than anybody I've seen not named Revis. Jones is the 2nd best rated Safety in the NFL per PFF.

Marshall is struggling, because he is realistically a #3 corner. Carroll is struggling because he's probably a #4 or 5. Clemons is struggling because he's not very good. But just because certain members of the secondary aren't playing well, that doesn't condemn all of them.

Also, that article completely ignores the fact that we routinely give up big plays to TE's, which has way more to do with the LB's than the secondary.
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Posted: 10/5/2012 7:58 PM

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Jschwald wrote:
juju07 wrote:
dave7 wrote: The CB they promoted from the p squad played qb at Appalachian State, has no NFL experience at CB.
and we had guys in for a work out 2 weeks ago ,and jeff ireland didnt want to sign any of them
one of them signed for the jets 2 days ago and will prob start for them in the near future



why????
Because Ireland believes he can get more production out of somebody who has been in our defensive system since August? Obviously we are severely depleted at CB, but if you think any FA out there can just put on a jersey and be an upgrade, I'm going to have to disagree with you, even if they are more talented or polished.

How has Vontae Davis played since he was thrown into a brand new system and had to learn on the go? He's the worst rated CB in the NFL, and he's far more talented than anybody we would pick up (and anybody on our roster except Smith for that matter.)

Like you said, Ireland has brought guys in for workouts, and he certainly knows the situation of the team's secondary. If he was impressed by the workouts he saw, we would have signed someone.
Well i know the guy the jets signed is from the Lions and he apparently has quite a long rap sheet which prob doesnt work for Philbon.  Best way to help out the secondary is with a good pass rush so let's hope they come thru and Stanford is the second coming of Madison or Surtain, lol.

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