Posted: 9/30/2012 9:56 PM
Posted: 9/30/2012 11:15 PM
Posted: 10/1/2012 2:12 AM
Posted: 10/1/2012 3:59 AM
Posted: 10/1/2012 7:16 AM
FreeWanny wrote: It's so cliche and annoying for Dolphin fans to tolerate the growing pains of a rookie QB because we've been crappy for so long, but if Tannehill continues to improve ...we could go 3 -13 and you'd have to be excited.Hartline 12 for 253 ... are you kidding me? Philbin flying into a rage a couple of times on the sidelines ... nice.Definitely agree about Ireland. He absolutely has to go. Just way, way way too many misses.Find a few guys that can cover. Another guy that can rush. A vertical deep threat. A TE with some speed. There's our first 5 picks.This coaching staff deserves better than Ireland.
Posted: 10/1/2012 7:24 AM
I don't really support Ireland anymore, he just hasn't delivered the playmakers needed to win in todays NFL and that is the spot our team is sorely missing.I do, however, take offense to the idea that he hasn't done anything right. He is responsible for the fact that we have probably the best run D in the league right now, and the fact that we have one of the better O-lines.More importantly, I think it's admirable the way he sticks to his guns and doesn't panic. Two drafts ago, everybody was clamoring that we had to take Ingram, or we had to take Mallett. Well we didn't, we took Pouncey, and he's a top 5 Center in his second year in the league. Ingram looks very mediocre in NO, and I think Tannehill will be far better than Mallett ever will. We are in desperate need of receiving help, yet he still wouldn't overpay for Laurent Robinson or Manningham or any receiver available who he believed he wasn't getting good value on (though I still think Manningham would make a big difference here). When given the opportunity to trade Vontae for a 2nd, even though it definitely depleted our secondary this year, Ireland made the move he believed was best for the future of the team - despite the fact that he knows very well that a bad season means he won't be a part of that future. Same goes for Tannehill, Ireland knows he is on the hot seat but he was willing to take an inexperienced QB because he thought it was best for the future of the franchise.As for his most recent draft: Tannehill looks for real, Martin has already come a long way and has been a solid starter, Vernon has been contributing and is only getting better, Egnew is definitely looking like a bust (but then again, Mizzou TE's can't ever block, so maybe he'll learn. But maybe not. I'll call him a bust for now), Miller looks really good when he has the ball in his hands, Kaddu and Cunningham weren't hits, Randall played well but is buried on our depth chart, and Matthews has flashed some potential. He also is responsible for Samuda, Shelby, and Thigpen, all of whom have contributed and showed potential as undrafted rookies (obviously, J-Train lane is a Sherman guy, not an Ireland find). Even so, that's a better percentage of rookie success than just about any other year I can remember in the past decade.Of our 5 picks in the 1st 3 rounds next year, we desperately need (in this order IMO)
1) A starting CB2) A big, big-time receiver3) Another big-time receiver (because Ireland will inevitably miss on one of them)4) A safety to play opposite Reshad Jones5) Another CB or DT, depending on whether we are able to resign S. Smith or R. StarksIf he (or whoever our GM is) is 3-5 on those first 5 picks (and he was 4-5 this year IMO), we are actually a young, talented, threatening team.Again, I'm not saying I want Ireland to stick - I don't think he can deliver the playmakers we need. But we do have a pretty solid foundation, and I think he deserves some credit for that.Well, bring on the hate . . .
Posted: 10/1/2012 7:45 AM
Posted: 10/1/2012 8:25 AM
FreeWanny wrote: Of course losing sucks but after 2 OT losses, there is a lot to be encouraged about.Tannehill broke the DOLPHIN Rookie record for passing yardage in a game and he really is improving. Based on the talent level of this team, Philbin is getting maximum output! Do you think Bess and Hartline's productivity is because of their physical gifts?It's not his fault that Carpenter has hurt us or that Naanee celebrates his first catch of the season by fumbling.Yeah, some calls and strategy could be different but the team is competing hard.And what did Ireland contribute? Tannehill was a Sherman guy. Even Jorvorskie Lane was a Sherman guy, Martin was a critical need and anything over Colombo would be an upgradeVernon, Egnew, Miller, etc, : nothing special.Except for the Texans (still unbeaten) , the coaching has kept us close.Get Ireland out of here next year and we could be headed in the right direction.
Posted: 10/1/2012 11:57 AM
Jschwald wrote: Also, Wanny, I take severe exception with the idea that Hartline and Bess are producing because of the magic of the coaching staff and not because of their own physical gifts. You think game planning and coaching was the sole reason Hartline went for 250+ and Bess had over 100?Hartline has now had 2 100+ yard games, and one of them went for a franchise record 253. He is leading the league in receiving. Philbin coached in GB, how many GB receivers put up 253 yards in a single game during his tenure there? And Bess averaged 667 yards over his four seasons before Philbin got here, and we were one of if not the worst passing team in the league during those 4 years.We have two quality receivers on this team. Naanee is a joke (I admit it), Armstrong can't catch, and Marlon Moore wouldn't be listed as a WR if ST Gunner was a legitimate spot on a depth chart.But your comment is pretty disrespectful to the 2 good wide receivers we have on our team, because they are the one's making plays - Philbin did not beat any Cornerbacks out there, he didn't toe tap, he didn't run a crisp slant route. Hartline and Bess are both physically talented, they just aren't enough.
Posted: 10/1/2012 2:31 PM
Posted: 10/1/2012 2:46 PM
FreeWanny wrote: Don't take severe exception... not necessary. I love what these guys have accomplished.Prior to Philbin's arrival Bess was a sure handed possession receiver but that was it.Hartline was what? a 3rd receiver? I'm not knocking these guys but neither are physically gifted in terms of size or speed compared to prototype NFL receivers.They are smart, crafty "move the chains" type guys and now they are much more.With Philbin here, he has unleashed the beast and turned them into a formidable duo.Let's keep it going. I'm still seeing Hartline running down the sideline and scoring.Yessssssss!
Posted: 10/1/2012 3:03 PM
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