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Dolphins fly in top talent

Posted: 4/6/2012 5:11 PM

Dolphins fly in top talent 


The team will take a closer look at LSU cornerback Morris Claiborne, South Carolina outside linebacker Melvin Ingram and Notre Dame receiver Michael Floyd

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/...laiborne-others

Dolphins may not be as sold on Tannehill as some think. Just as everyone speculated there interest in Flynn I think there doing the same to Tannehill. What surpises me most is CBS sports now has Tannehill ranked as the #8 prospect overall just right where the Dolphins draft, he just leap frogged 20 spots after his pro day. I still think the Dolphins should trade down into the teens and pickup a 2nd round pick. Draft is deep in mid 1st to eairly to mid  2nd rd choises.
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Posted: 4/6/2012 5:59 PM

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Unless there is amazingly undeniable talent, I'm always agreeable to trading down...with a desperate who overpays...

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Posted: 4/7/2012 12:36 AM

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NationsBIGGESTFinFan wrote: Unless there is amazingly undeniable talent, I'm always agreeable to trading down...with a desperate who overpays...

I think our best bet is if Mo lasts to 8.  Jerry would pop up to get him and give up some picks to do it.  they NEED help in the secondary.  Problem is, he might trade a spot or 2 ahead of us to get him, leaving us with jackcrap.  What we REALLY need is someone that CAR wants and another team wants so that team can move in just ahead of them to snatch him away from the Panthers.  Who that is, I really dont know.  My GUESS is its someone on the DLine, but Im not sure who they would be targeting and who would draw interest.  Poe, MAYBE?  He was the draft darling, but now that scouts have gone back and looked at tape, he doesnt seem to produce like someone in that conference should with his measurables.  Maybe a team falls in love with that LB from BC,  I wont try to spell it since I havent been able to see for so long, Ive never actually seen it spelled before.  The only other think I can think of is teams start salivating more about Floyd.  But Id think they would move one spot ahead of us to get him.  Normally you dont trade with the team that wants the player, you go one spot ahead and bone them. 
Trading down is just as much about who teams think CAR wants,  Figure that out and youll see which teams should be interested in moving up

Stephen Ross...ur an assclown.
Sell the Dolphins immediately before you completely wreck this franchise. 

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Posted: 4/7/2012 9:13 PM

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i keep hearing cleveland may tradeup and move ahead of us if so does that mean we will get shafted ?

Why cant Miami grow a pair and trade the colts two first rd picks and two 3 rd rd picks and pull the trigger on Andrew Luck . I m almost desprate enough to say lets give the colts all our picks this year and a 3 rd pick next year for Luck. if we did something like that many people would have a heart attack.

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Posted: 4/7/2012 9:36 PM

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Posted: 4/7/2012 10:04 PM

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Washington paid 3 1st and a 2nd for the 2nd pick, I don't think Indy would sell the 1st and if they did it would be alot. Cleveland has the 4th and the 22nd picks
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Posted: 4/8/2012 12:50 AM

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Rosco50 wrote: i keep hearing cleveland may tradeup and move ahead of us if so does that mean we will get shafted ?

Why cant Miami grow a pair and trade the colts two first rd picks and two 3 rd rd picks and pull the trigger on Andrew Luck . I m almost desprate enough to say lets give the colts all our picks this year and a 3 rd pick next year for Luck. if we did something like that many people would have a heart attack.

If you keep hearing it, whiy is it that you keep missing the fact that CLE already drafts ahead of us?  Nakes me think everytime you say "I heard" or "Ive been hearing".  Sounds made up to me.  SEA signed Flynn and ARI gave the bonus to Kolb this year.  No onther QB needy teams out there.  if one of those teams wants to move up, it has to be to 3 ahead of CLE, and thats gonna take a pretty substancial package to get MIN to move out of the top 10.

You cant have have WAS give up what they gave up to move to TWO and then expect us to be able to spend a lot LESS to move to 1, leaving IND with NO QB after bailing on Manning.  Think about it.

Stephen Ross...ur an assclown.
Sell the Dolphins immediately before you completely wreck this franchise. 

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Posted: 4/8/2012 8:16 AM

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If somehow Morris Claiborne fell to us at #8 I'd take him. You cannot have too many good corners in the modern NFL.

No way the Colts trade the 1st pick unless it is for a stupid amount of picks. I cannot see them trying to explain to their fans how they passed on P Manning 's replacement after going 1-15.

I mean really, who would be dumb enough not to take the best QB after a 1-15 season? tongue

The best way to get a top 10, elite player is to have a top 10 pick and use it. Otherwise you end up with a "good" player like Odrick.

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Posted: 4/8/2012 9:10 AM

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Odrick was a good player in college. i wouldn't classify him as a good Pro yet. Statistically, he's done very little..
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Posted: 4/8/2012 11:26 AM

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It appears to me Odrick will be one of the better all around D-lineman, plays the run well and can allso penetrate and get sacks. He was hurt his 1st year so its like he was a rookie last year, he will start this year and I'm expecting big thing from him, he was the reason we could afford to let Langford leave. Misi needs to pick it up this year unlike Odrick he wasn't hurt and its his 3rd year he did yield some playing time to Jason Taylor last year on 3rd down. I would still trade down this year into the low teens and pick up a second if I could, but if the Dolphins want Tannehill thats not an option.
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Posted: 4/8/2012 10:17 PM

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chzamp wrote:
NationsBIGGESTFinFan wrote: Unless there is amazingly undeniable talent, I'm always agreeable to trading down...with a desperate who overpays...

I think our best bet is if Mo lasts to 8.  Jerry would pop up to get him and give up some picks to do it.  they NEED help in the secondary.  Problem is, he might trade a spot or 2 ahead of us to get him, leaving us with jackcrap.  What we REALLY need is someone that CAR wants and another team wants so that team can move in just ahead of them to snatch him away from the Panthers.  Who that is, I really dont know.  My GUESS is its someone on the DLine, but Im not sure who they would be targeting and who would draw interest.  Poe, MAYBE?  He was the draft darling, but now that scouts have gone back and looked at tape, he doesnt seem to produce like someone in that conference should with his measurables.  Maybe a team falls in love with that LB from BC,  I wont try to spell it since I havent been able to see for so long, Ive never actually seen it spelled before.  The only other think I can think of is teams start salivating more about Floyd.  But Id think they would move one spot ahead of us to get him.  Normally you dont trade with the team that wants the player, you go one spot ahead and bone them. 
Trading down is just as much about who teams think CAR wants,  Figure that out and youll see which teams should be interested in moving up
Actually i think if Richardson is passed over by the Browns for Blackmon, we would be in a perfect spot for the bengals to trade up and get him..

If you put Richardson on the bengals you have a serious playoff/superbowl contender imo. That is all contingent on Dalton making progress, I wasnt as impressed by his play as some were but he did have a good Rookie year.
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Posted: 4/9/2012 7:23 AM

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Cleveland with pick#22 could trade up to #7 or #8 and get Richardson, assuming they take Tanny a #4.
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Posted: 4/9/2012 10:32 AM

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dougb123 wrote: Washington paid 3 1st and a 2nd for the 2nd pick, I don't think Indy would sell the 1st and if they did it would be alot. Cleveland has the 4th and the 22nd picks

Actually Washington only gave up 2 first rd picks. The other 1st was a swap.
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Posted: 4/9/2012 12:55 PM

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rightNexact wrote:
dougb123 wrote: Washington paid 3 1st and a 2nd for the 2nd pick, I don't think Indy would sell the 1st and if they did it would be alot. Cleveland has the 4th and the 22nd picks

Actually Washington only gave up 2 first rd picks. The other 1st was a swap.
Doesn't really matter.  I think it would take 4 first round picks and 4 second round picks for Indy to even consider making a deal.   I'd do it BTW.  biggrin
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Posted: 4/9/2012 3:43 PM

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Hope for Indy's sake he is as good as advertised - there lucky SOB to go from Peyton to Luck...
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Posted: 4/9/2012 6:37 PM

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Here's a bigger list of players the Dolphins had in for a visit

The list of known Dolphins visits according to sources and ProFootballtalk.com are as follows:

WR: Blackmon, Floyd, Iowa State's Darius Reynolds.

DL: South Carolina defensive end Melvin Ingram, LSU defensive tackle Michael Brockers, North Carolina defensive end Quinton Coples.

OL: Ole Miss offensive tackle Bobby Massie, Iowa State offensive tackle Kelechi Osemele, Miami (Ohio) guard Brandon Brooks, Miami center Tyler Horn, Rutgers guard Desmond Wynn.

RB: Pittsburgh running back Zach Brown, Appalachian State running back Travaris Cadet.

DB: Montana defensive back Trumaine Johnson, Virginia Tech cornerback Jayron Hosley, LSU cornerback Morris Claiborne, Wisconsin CB Antonio Fenelus, Albion cornerback Chris Greenwood, LSU safety Brandon Taylor,

LB: Nebraska linebacker Lavonte David, West Virginia linebacker Bruce Irvin.

TE: Louisiana-Lafayette tight end Ladarius Green, Cincinnati tight end Adrien Robinson.

QB: Arizona State quarterback Brock Osweiler, Texas A&M QB Ryan Tannehill.

Read more here: miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphi...l#storylink=cpy
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Posted: 4/9/2012 6:59 PM

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dougb123 wrote: Here's a bigger list of players the Dolphins had in for a visit

The list of known Dolphins visits according to sources and ProFootballtalk.com are as follows:

WR: Blackmon, Floyd, Iowa State's Darius Reynolds.

DL: South Carolina defensive end Melvin Ingram, LSU defensive tackle Michael Brockers, North Carolina defensive end Quinton Coples.

OL: Ole Miss offensive tackle Bobby Massie, Iowa State offensive tackle Kelechi Osemele, Miami (Ohio) guard Brandon Brooks, Miami center Tyler Horn, Rutgers guard Desmond Wynn.

RB: Pittsburgh running back Zach Brown, Appalachian State running back Travaris Cadet.

DB: Montana defensive back Trumaine Johnson, Virginia Tech cornerback Jayron Hosley, LSU cornerback Morris Claiborne, Wisconsin CB Antonio Fenelus, Albion cornerback Chris Greenwood, LSU safety Brandon Taylor,

LB: Nebraska linebacker Lavonte David, West Virginia linebacker Bruce Irvin.

TE: Louisiana-Lafayette tight end Ladarius Green, Cincinnati tight end Adrien Robinson.

QB: Arizona State quarterback Brock Osweiler, Texas A&M QB Ryan Tannehill.

Read more here: miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphi...l#storylink=cpy
Judging by reading this list i guess the team is really deadset on making us a 4-3 team again.banghead The LB's are very telling, David and Irvin are regarded as straight up 4-3 LB's.

I might have to change some of my picks for the IMD team now..
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