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Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
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Posted: 11/3/2009 5:48 AM
Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
vs Belichick's opening remarks: "We gave the players the weekend off and we’re back at it now on Miami. It was an impressive win they had yesterday against the Jets. That’s a sweep on them, so that’s pretty good for Miami. We had a couple tough games with them last year, certainly well aware of all the skill players they have and the toughness they have in the running game on both sides of the ball and a good job that they do down there coaching. We’ll try to pull things together here after the Jets game and add that to all the other information we had from earlier in the week and get to work on these guys, get back on the field tomorrow and try to get an extra day -- a little extra jump on them -- which I am sure we’ll be able to use. [They’re] a good football team -- good on defense, tough, [they] run the ball well, [they make] big plays in the kicking game and seeing that we obviously didn’t do very well against [them] up here last year, so hopefully we can be a little more competitive this time around." http://www.boston.com/sports/f...ts/extra_points
Last edited 11/3/2009 6:21 AM by miamivette
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Posted: 11/3/2009 6:27 AM
Re: Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
Aint it funny how Bilichick seems like a classy guy compared to Jabba the Jet? For some reason I hate BB so much less this year. This is gonna be a tough game for our rookie DBs.
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Posted: 11/3/2009 6:55 AM
Re: Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
Agreed. Our secondary needs to step up their game big time against Brady & co. If they can play things tighter and our D-line can get after Brady and disrupt him, we can keep this game from getting ugly. Hopefully, Henne is going over all the game tapes with CP and the coaching staff and will be working on things during this week's practice to try to exploit the Pats as best as possible. I'm just hoping we rise to the occasion and make it a good game.
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- Ellesar
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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:53 AM
Re: Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
Phins always play the Pats tough, one of the problems I see is that the Pats played 2 soft games, while Miami had 2 real tough opponents, so well see, My nephew is flying up for the game with his pack of rabid Dolphans, ( can Dolphins have rabbis?) beak hats and all, told him hes on his own cant wish you luck, but here's to a clean injury free game, oh,could I have permission for a wager? if the Pats win could I request Miamivette( if that's her real legs) hoist up the picture abit, ty
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Posted: 11/3/2009 12:15 PM
Re: Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
LOL Ellesar, only if you'll do the same....
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Posted: 11/3/2009 12:25 PM
Re: Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
The Patriots have lost DE Jarvis Green to a knee injury, which means Boston will be working in a new starter vs. Dolphins on Sunday. http://twitter.com/OmarKelly
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Posted: 11/3/2009 12:33 PM
RE: Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
I expect us to put another heavy focus on running the ball on O. That's stating the obvious though.
On D, I expect we'll look a lot at the tape of the NE-NYJ game. Clearly blitzing Brady has been working. Personally I like the a tough physical guy like Davis to keep Welker in check. We'll see how Smith fares against Moss, but I don't expect anyone in the league can keep him bottled up.
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Posted: 11/3/2009 1:05 PM
Re: Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
unless Jason Taylor and company can keep consistent pressure on TB the game will be over by the 2nd quarter. No way our secondary holds up against welker and company. (sorry, I have no faith in the secondary whatsoever.)
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Posted: 11/3/2009 1:11 PM
Re: Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
We need 4 punt returns and 2 kickoff returns for TDs from Ginn. That will keep it close and give us a chance.
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Posted: 11/3/2009 1:12 PM
Re: Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
Datruth55 wrote:We need 4 punt returns and 2 kickoff returns for TDs from Ginn. That will keep it close and give us a chance. lol...pretty much
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Posted: 11/3/2009 1:17 PM
Re: Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
hooshoops wrote: Datruth55 wrote:We need 4 punt returns and 2 kickoff returns for TDs from Ginn. That will keep it close and give us a chance. lol...pretty much
In all seriousness this will be a very tough game with the Pats coming off the bye and ready to go. Hopefully that throws Brady off his rhythm a bit cause he was starting to heat up pretty good. Of course playing two exhibition teams helps. I'd be real happy with a split with the Pats this year though.
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Posted: 11/3/2009 1:34 PM
Re: Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
Datruth55 wrote: hooshoops wrote: Datruth55 wrote:We need 4 punt returns and 2 kickoff returns for TDs from Ginn. That will keep it close and give us a chance. lol...pretty much
In all seriousness this will be a very tough game with the Pats coming off the bye and ready to go. Hopefully that throws Brady off his rhythm a bit cause he was starting to heat up pretty good. Of course playing two exhibition teams helps. I'd be real happy with a split with the Pats this year though. i'm with you...i'd take a split...pats coming off a bye is gonna be rough sledding
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Posted: 11/3/2009 5:45 PM
Re: Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
Ever since the Patriots got busted for cheatin they havent been the offensive juggernaut that they were. If Miami can cut back on the mental and fundamental errors they have a very good chance of winning this game.
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Posted: 11/3/2009 10:11 PM
Re: Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
rightNexact wrote: Ever since the Patriots got busted for cheatin they havent been the offensive juggernaut that they were. If Miami can cut back on the mental and fundamental errors they have a very good chance of winning this game. A torn ACL may have played a tiny part of that...
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Posted: 11/3/2009 10:35 PM
Re: Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
If we come out on defense like we did against the Saints (1st half ) we can win this game. We need to blitz Brady from all possible angles and take our medicine when he hits Welker one on one. If we can pressure that sucker we can win this game. In fact, if we put some fear in him and his reconstructed knee we might be able to force some turnovers. These Dolphins are a tough, resilient bunch and we are starting to get our game together. I want to see Brady picking himself up all day long and yelling at his O-line like it always seems he does when the Dolphins play the Patriots. Believe.
Last edited 11/3/2009 10:36 PM by steviey013
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Posted: 11/4/2009 7:29 AM
RE: Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
i cant see us being able to stop there passing game this game suits cam wake as i feel the pats will spread us out and we will be in nickel alot
if he dosent get more playing time then i have given up these coaches
its been the biggest f*** *p this coaching staff has made!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 11/4/2009 7:46 AM
RE: Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
yep...no pass rush means a slaughter
absolutely ZERO reason cam wake shouldn't see significant time as a pass rusher...ZERO
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Posted: 11/4/2009 7:56 AM
RE: Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
Miami Dolphins' rookie cornerbacks will get another big test Sunday at New England
By BRIAN BIGGANE
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, November 03, 2009
Sean Smith and Vontae Davis, who had just become the first rookie cornerback tandem to start for the Dolphins in their 43-year history, sat side-by-side in the visitors' locker room moments after the game Sunday, soaking in the hard-fought victory.
"I'm banged up," Davis admitted.
"A very, very physical game," Smith added.
Each wound up with six tackles after coming into the New York Jets game averaging fewer than two. Davis had two passes defensed; Smith had one and a forced fumble.
And while the wide receivers they faced, Braylon Edwards and Jerricho Cotchery, had solid games - Edwards had four catches for 74 yards and a touchdown, Cotchery three for 70 - neither was able to make the play at the end of the game to deny Miami a 30-25 win.
"Corners have to have short-term memories," Davis said. "You've just got to be be feisty out there. They're going to make their plays; I've never seen a corner play a whole game where somebody didn't make a play."
Smith, who has started every game this season, had high praise for Davis, who made his starting debut.
"He bowed up today," Smith said. "He had a big hit at the end on a crossing route. It's why we got the man; that's the type of plays he's capable of making, and he made them today."
The play came on a third-and-10 from the Miami 28 on the Jets' final, desperate drive. Quarterback Mark Sanchez thought he had Cotchery open on a short out pattern, but Davis arrived just as the ball did and knocked it loose.
Tight end Dustin Keller made a brilliant catch for a first down on the next play, but that would be Sanchez's final completion as the Dolphin defense shut the door. On the Jets' final play, Sanchez scrambled to buy himself time but still ended up throwing the ball out of the end zone.
While a much bigger challenge awaits when the Dolphins face Tom Brady, Randy Moss and Wes Walker this Sunday at New England, there is a sense that the secondary might be able to overcome the loss of its best cover man in Will Allen, sidelined for the year with a knee injury.
"They gave up one or two big plays, but that's the game," nickel back Nate Jones said. "In the end they played stout. It was a good win for us."
"They did a great job," safety Gibril Wilson added. "They're going to have to grow up real fast. But the best way for them to get ready is play games and get that experience."
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Posted: 11/4/2009 8:42 AM
Re: Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
Dolphins vs Patriots: Three Key Matchups by Matty I on Nov 4, 2009 12:19 AM EST in News 21 comments While we'll all admit it was great to knock off the Jets last week and sweep the season series, it's time to now shift our attention to the other divisional rival - the one that actually matters. The Patriots have been the beast of the AFC East for far too long. And even with the Dolphins improbable division title last season, things have shaped up in 2009 like they have shaped up for a while - with the Patriots currently sitting atop the AFC East. On Sunday, the Dolphins will travel up to New England to go toe to toe with the Patriots looking to make a statement. To get it done, these three matchups will be critical. Dolphins running game vs Patriots front seven It's become almost legendary now what the Dolphins did against the Patriots up in Foxborough last season in the first meeting between these two teams - unleashing the 'Wildcat' and running for 216 yards en route to a 25 point thrashing. But in their second meeting down in Miami, the Dolphins were unable to get anything going on the ground, 'Wildcat' or not. They ran for only 66 yards and averaged only 3.7 yards per carry as the Dolphins, who hung with the Patriots for two and a half quarters, just couldn't keep up with the Patriots and their high-scoring offense. Obviously, the Dolphins can't let themselves get involved in another shoot-out like we saw down in Miami last year. And while the Patriots are ranked 15th in rush defense - surrendering 109 yards per game, which doesn't seem that bad - those numbers are skewed due to the fact that most opponents are trying to keep up with New England's offense and abandon the run too early. They only see roughly 24 rushing attempts per game by opponents. But in the key statistic, yards allowed per rushing attempt, the Patriots are ranked 22nd - surrendering 4.5 yards per attempt. That, my friends, means there's a lot of yardage to be had on the ground. Of course, everybody is aware that Miami's strength on offense is the running game and the Patriots will obviously stack the box to limit the amount of success Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams can have. That's why it'll be very important for the Dolphins to remain committed to the ground game even if it isn't working with a lot of success early on. Last week, the Dolphins got away from the run too quickly because the Jets were selling out to stop it. That can't happen on Sunday. In particular, I hope to see a lot of 'Wildcat' on Sunday early and often. And I'm not talking about the jet sweeps or attempted passes. I want to see some of that smash mouth power running that the Dolphins did so well earlier this season. I have faith in Miami's offensive line to come in with the right mindset and play physical enough for the Dolphins to be able to pound the ball up the middle. Let's set the tone early by pounding the rock.  Randy Moss/Wes Welker vs Sean Smith/Vontae Davis/Nate Jones Welcome to the NFL, rooks. Now go cover the best receiving duo in the game. It's not going to be an easy task. We all know this. But if the Dolphins are to head up to New England and pull off the upset (a pretty big one, at that, seeing as the Dolphins are 10 point underdogs), then these two talented rookie corners are going to have to play their best games to date. We've all seen flashes from both Sean Smith and Vontae Davis. But there have still been those typical rookie mistakes - whether their mental or related to technique - that have resulted in big plays. On Sunday, those two will have to face the second best passing offense in the league, led by two receivers who are as talented as they get and who compliment each other well. I expect to see a rotation of Smith and Davis on Randy Moss. Moss is the tall deep threat who is one of the greatest to ever step on the football field. And both Smith and Davis bring different elements to the table. Smith has outstanding size and ball skills. Davis, though, is the more physical corner. And I hope to see Davis get the opportunity to play tight bump and run coverage on Moss. Vontae has the strength to disrupt the timing between Moss and Tom Brady and to move Moss off of his route. And I think that Vontae's make-up speed allows Davis to play physical at the line with Randy and jam him. However, in the red zone, I hope to see Smith match up on Moss to help prevent any corner or fade routes to the big receiver. As for Wes Welker, expect to see a lot of Nate Jones on him. Why? Because Welker will primarily line up in the slot and Jones is the team's best slot corner following the season-ending injury to Will Allen. I think that if Welker does line up on the outside, we'll see Davis on him for sure. But when Welker lines up inside and attempts to do what he does best, it'll be Jones - who has come on these past two games - who gets the duty of covering the pesky little receiver. If nothing else, this should be interesting - and will be an excellent learning experience for the two rookie corners regardless of the outcome. Chad Henne vs Bill Belichick This isn't exactly an ideal matchup for a quarterback making just his 5th career start, is it? It's hard enough for a young quarterback to head up to New England. Making things more difficult is the fact that Bill Belichick has had an extra week to game plan for the young kid thanks to New England's bye week. Ouch. Let's be real here. Belichick is probably going to go out of his way to draw up a variety of defensive looks to confuse Chad Henne. The Patriots don't exactly have outstanding cornerbacks. But they have talented, versatile safeties and one of the greatest minds in the game creating the game plan. That means I expect a number of exotic blitz packages and a variety of disguised coverages to test Henne. In what will be a loud and hostile environment, this is going to be a hell of a test for him. Sure, it's important for Miami's coaches to do a good job game planning themselves and preparing Henne for what he might see on Sunday. But all the preparation in the world won't matter when it's 3rd & long and the Patriots are lined up with no down linemen, five linebackers, and six defensive backs - shifting around all over prior to the snap as the fans scream their heads off. Yeah - time to show us what you got, kid.
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Posted: 11/4/2009 8:53 AM
RE: Dolphins @ Patriots Nov. 8, 2009 Pre/post game thoughts
Three keys for stopping Miami E-mail|Link|Comments (13) Posted by Adam Kilgore, Globe Staff November 2, 2009 01:25 PM After coaches gave the players the weekend off, they’ll return today to begin preparation for the Dolphins, who present three unique challenges to Bill Belichick and his staff. Belichick addressed them today in his weekly conference call with the media. 1. Preparing for the Wildcat: It was last Sept. 21 when the Dolphins unveiled the Wildcat offense at Gillette Stadium in a 38-13 pummeling of the Patriots. The Dolphins still squeeze some efficacy out of the formation because Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams run it with such skill, but as the Jets proved yesterday in holding the Dolphins’ offense to 104 total yards, teams have begun to solve it. The thing is, no matter how effective or ineffective the Wildcat is on Sundays, opposing defenses must devote significant time to prepare for its subtleties. The Patriots will need to decide how much take time out of their normal preparation to account for the Wildcat. “That’s always a tough decision,” Belichick said. The Dolphins’ use of the Wildcat “varies from game to game. It’s not always used in the same percentages. The better it’s going, the more you’re going to see it. There’s other times where they make you spend time defending it and don’t use it all that much. The most important thing is that we’re sound on it and we’re prepared for it, so if we get it, we at least know how to play it and the different thing that come out of it.” 2. A varied offensive approach: Even without using the Wildcat, the Dolphins and offensive coordinator Dan Henning deploy an unusually large mix of formations, which Belichick described as a “very broad offensive system.” “We’ll have to be ready for all of those,” Belichick said. “We want to be ready to defend that. But at the same time, we don’t want to commit so much time to [the Wildcat] that we don’t do a good job on the other things they do as well. Hopefully we’ll be able to use a little bit of the extra time to get those bases covered. But it’s definitely a preparation problem they present.” Since Chad Henne took over for injured starter Chad Pennington during Miami’s Week 4 victory over the Bills, Belichick has seen “basically the same” offense used by Henning. Pennington’s intelligence and experience allowed him to make some pre-snap adjustments that maybe Henne can’t. But their overall attack is unchanged. That’s significant, because Belichick feels the Dolphins change their personnel packages and formations on a weekly basis. That hasn’t changed, even with a second-year quarterback. “There’s a lot of things that we’ll see in the game Sunday that we really can’t prepare for, because they haven’t shown them yet exactly the way they’re going to do them,” Belichick said. “There will be something different and creative this week that will be different from the other games that we’ve seen them play. They kind of keep the wheels spinning that way.” 3. Stopping Ted Ginn: The Dolphins scored 30 points in their victory yesterday despite a meager 104 yards of total offense. The reason was Ginn, who became the first player in league history to take back two kickoffs more than 100 yards for touchdowns in the same game. Ginn’s speed presents a major challenge. His speed allows him to take any path on a kickoff return – from side to side, from the middle to the outside, or from the sideline to the middle on a cutback. “He has the ability, really, to take the ball any place on the field,” Belichick said. “He can just outrun just about everybody that we have on our kickoff team. I don’t know that we, or any team in the league, really, has more than one or two people, if that, that can run with Ted Ginn.” The main emphasis will be, simply, on tackling. Former Patriots special teams maven Larry Izzo whiffed on Ginn’s second touchdown, diving past Ginn and missing a tackle that would have started the Dolphins inside their own 20-yard line. Containing Ginn will also take discipline from the Patriots’ coverage team, the players making sure the stay in their lane. The gunners (players closest to the sideline) will have stay outside of Ginn at all times, even if it appears he’s taking the ball up the middle or to the other sideline. www.boston.com/sports/football...e_keys_for.html
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