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More Good and Bad

Posted: 8/24/2014 8:49 AM

More Good and Bad 


anFirst off, the Cowboys are a bad defensive team. Did you see how they wilted in the heat during the final part of the game. Brought back a lot of good memories.

GOOD

1.KNOWSHON
Obviously Moreno was the biggest positive. Finally a running back that has vision and real running back skills.
It exposes the rest of the bunch but at least the Coaching staff knows now what a real running back's supposed to do. 
Getting rid of Bush and just giving Miller the starting job last year after a nothing rookie season was a joke, but that's in the past now. Did the line suddenly learn how to block better?
Good running backs make a line look better and at least we have one as long as he stays healthy.
2. Defense
Tackling and pass rush from the starter's improved. Without Koa Misi.

BAD

The Tannehill / Wallace chemistry.
Tannehill's continued deep throwing problems are annoying. That overthrow was a gift TD to Wallace but Wallace, himself, still plays painfully within himself. Still a diva.
All that money and never makes an extra effort. at all. 6 catches 67 yards. Not bad for an average possession receiver.
He played like he was saving himself for the regular season but in the regular season he played like he was saving himself.
Tannehill's lack of fire versus Moore is also annoying. When Moore comes in you can feel the sense of urgency pick up.
Moore is not a better QB but his presence and command are better and he's willing to wing it.
Tannehill is still a robot.
When Hartline, Miller , Wallace and Tannehill are in there, you have a bunch of robots: everything has to be  perfect.

Stop with the Landry kick return experiment. The kid is a stud receiver with questionable long speed. Enough.

Last edited 8/24/2014 8:52 AM by FreeWanny

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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:05 AM

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I do think it's funny how everyone whose been asked about it basically gushes about Moreno's vision, toughness, power, patience, ect. Has anyone on the roster complimented Miller yet? I really want Miller to be good but it just seems like he's playing blindfolded. If he makes it into the 2nd level he's dangerous but he has so much trouble getting through the line. If he gets behind a great Oline someday look out but he's just not cut out for this zone blocking scheme it seems.
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Posted: 8/24/2014 10:00 AM

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FreeWanny wrote: anFirst off, the Cowboys are a bad defensive team. Did you see how they wilted in the heat during the final part of the game. Brought back a lot of good memories.


You DO realize that the players in at the "final part of the game" are players that aren't good enough to start on the WORST defense in the NFL?  Some will be cut.  Some will end up on practice squads.  Some will be bagging groceries at the Piggly Wiggly.

Stephen Ross...ur an assclown.
Sell the Dolphins immediately before you completely wreck this franchise. 

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Posted: 8/24/2014 12:01 PM

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I DO realize. Thanks, professor.

Yesterday was a very sweaty game.

Watching the opponent wear down in the heat brought back a lot of good memories from the glory years.
Back then, no team looked forward to playing us at home with the dreaded 1pm start in September.
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Posted: 8/24/2014 12:07 PM

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FreeWanny wrote: 

Watching the opponent wear down in the heat brought back a lot of good memories from the glory years.
Back then, no team looked forward to playing us at home with the dreaded 1pm start in September.

And we wore all our white uniforms as our home jerseys, which helped us keep cool while they had their visiting jerseys which usually incorporated darker color apparel.  I've never understood why we stopped that.  Lately we wear our all white uniforms while playing in the snow in Foxboro, seems rather ridiculous.



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Posted: 8/24/2014 12:08 PM

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dstock21 wrote: I do think it's funny how everyone whose been asked about it basically gushes about Moreno's vision, toughness, power, patience, ect. Has anyone on the roster complimented Miller yet? I really want Miller to be good but it just seems like he's playing blindfolded. If he makes it into the 2nd level he's dangerous but he has so much trouble getting through the line. If he gets behind a great Oline someday look out but he's just not cut out for this zone blocking scheme it seems.
So true what you say about "vision", I watched the other NFL games and watched Reggie Bush and Maurice Drew Jones have long TD runs. In both examples they made quick moves at the line of scrimmage and took off in a different directions from the start of the play. That's instinct, you can't teach it. Good coaches and GM's know when they see it.

Like you said, Miller might be a stud with a dominant OLine and standout QB, but in the meantime ...
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Posted: 8/24/2014 7:34 PM

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Drew Jones?  The guy lead the league in rushing, and you and Bob Griese cant get his name right?

Stephen Ross...ur an assclown.
Sell the Dolphins immediately before you completely wreck this franchise. 

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Posted: 8/24/2014 7:54 PM

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Led the league in rushing last year? I thought it was Lesean McCoy.

You can do better than that.
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:04 PM

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well I am convinced that we have a tight end who is way better then Eggnog and a runningback who showed me more then Daniel Thomas I saw some good plays but I did see a lot of struggle with the deep ball . Tannehill is not any better then Chad Henne I rather have Chambers then Wallace because he gave it his all Wallace just doesn't have the it factor. I was really excited to see Landry and a runningback who's name escaped me and the tight end who I did not recognize but he gave great effort.

Wallace Daniel Thomas , and Tannehill are not the answer my only concern was if we struggled against a bad defense what does that indicate.
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:06 PM

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FreeWanny wrote: Led the league in rushing last year? I thought it was Lesean McCoy.

You can do better than that.

ONCE AGAIN, you and another poster who knows exactly who he is but shall remain nameless, don't read.  You both try to catch me on what you THINK I said, without actually reading.
Read the post again.  If I said he lead the league in rushing LAST YEAR, I will stop posting until week 8.  If you CANT show that I said he lead the league in rushing LAST YEAR, then YOU don't post til week 8.

Deal?  My post is unedited by me.  It would show at the bottom if I DID edit it. 

So we have a deal, right, Mr. Confident?

Stephen Ross...ur an assclown.
Sell the Dolphins immediately before you completely wreck this franchise. 

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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:25 PM

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Rosco50 wrote: well I am convinced that we have a tight end who is way better then Eggnog
Yes.  His name is Charles Clay.  He was a top 10 TE in the NFL last year.  You should check him out.

Stephen Ross...ur an assclown.
Sell the Dolphins immediately before you completely wreck this franchise. 

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Posted: 8/25/2014 1:41 PM

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Finally got to see the game.

I am not saying replace Tannehill at this point at all, however I would love to see Matt Moore with all the 1s against the opponent's first string just to see what it would look like. That one long pass to Wallace was ugly. I think Wallace should have kept going long and then look for it but I really couldn't tell. Seems like maybe that go route when Wallace flies is the biggest thing Tanne struggles with, but I agree that sometimes he looks a bit robotic. Team does seem to have a bit more urgency when Moore is in there, and for the 2nd straight week he seemed completely in control, except for that brainfart interception he threw. Don't really understand what Tanne thought he saw on his interception either as he threw into triple coverage. Tanne was given a gift by the defender not catching the ball for his 2nd interception also. We had a couple of drops in the game, but I am hoping that was outside the norm. I know it wasn't against all starters, but with the eye test, the team just appears more in sync with Moore at this point. I remember last year Philly struggling a bit early with this same offense but they eventually worked it out well and I am hoping Tanne and the ones get much better at it, especially in the redzone. We cannot go down the field near or to the redzone 3 times and come away with 3 points! That is my biggest concern at this point. 1st string seems to be putting up the yards and stats; just not the points yet.

Feel better about the OL right now that the one that ended the season last year for sure. Smith seemed to play well. Fox - pfft. We need to find a better scrub if we can. A few too many penalties also.

Liked what I saw from Moreno and all the RBs really, even if it was against Dallas. We have to start somewhere. Good to know the D. Thomas experiment may finally be coming to an end. Williams and Darkwa both looked better than Thomas has in the past imo. Receivers looked pretty good. I don't know that we could afford to let either D. Williams go and if we do, some team will get a player. That was a good hit on Sims but I hated he didn't have the ball more wrapped up.

Loved what I saw from McCain and Tripp. They may very well be our future. I agree that Tripp needs to be in the weight room and I hope he adds muscle slowly and doesn't lose any closing speed. Wheeler - pfft. Seems like he always gets his name mentioned and it is usually for messing up. 'Bout done with him also. May very well be some changes next season even if we have to eat the salaries.

Watched all the pre-season games and especially last night with the starters in so long, and it is still impossible to figure out our W-L record this year. I guessed 9 or 10 wins if I remember correctly but honestly, I can see us with anywhere from 5-6 wins up to 10-11 at this point. Just don't really know what our personality is gonna be. Guess we will really start to know who we are after the first couple games. I know that I have hope which I usually do every year at this time. Go Phins!
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Posted: 8/25/2014 8:44 PM

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I watched the first half now, definately noticed better tackling by the starters and I'm suprised that the defense wasn't given more credit for shutting down a good offense. All I read about was how Finegan was abused by Dez...uh doesn't Dez abuse everyone? How many TDs did he score? Tannehill shines for 2 weeks and it's praise Tannehill, he has a bad quarter and it's what's wrong with Ryan. Meanwhile the press is slurping the Oline and Moreno but not focusing on the improved tackling and overall defense. I read reports on this game that made it sound like we played bad on both sides of the ball. I hate the media, glad to be seeing it for myself finally it's not that bad.
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Posted: 8/25/2014 10:19 PM

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People who know, know that points given up is the only thing that matters against the D.  They gave up 1 TD and 2 FGs.  The rest of the narf is all noise that can be tuned out.  The fewer points you give up, the better chance you have to win.  Its simple math.  That's why I don't read Miami beat writers unless I need a specific stat or quote, and they come up on a Google search.  Even then, I try to find it somewhere else to back it up.  I'll give up 550 yards of offense every game this year if you promise me the D only gives up 13 points.  The pick-6 by the back-up QB is on the offense, and hopefully we aren't relying on our back-up QB this year...

Stephen Ross...ur an assclown.
Sell the Dolphins immediately before you completely wreck this franchise. 

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Posted: 8/26/2014 11:22 AM

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I watched the game last night.

All the "Tannehill was average/bad" stuff is complete garbage, first half was pretty good and there were some bad WR drops in there as well, he'll be fine. We need to fix this kicker situation ASAP.

We look like an 8-8 team that could swing either way, first game against NE should be very interesting
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Posted: 8/26/2014 12:16 PM

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ARI released Jay Feeley.  I guess that's a possibility at kicker...

The 10 Million Dollar Man needs to spend the offseason getting his timing down and catching more balls from Tannehill.  Until then, its kinda gonna be what it is...

Stephen Ross...ur an assclown.
Sell the Dolphins immediately before you completely wreck this franchise. 

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Posted: 8/26/2014 2:37 PM

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Lynx wrote: I watched the game last night.

All the "Tannehill was average/bad" stuff is complete garbage,
I didn't see anyone post that Tanne was garbage. I actually said he did look a little robotic, in agreeing with another poster. I also said I was not ready to replace him but I wondered aloud how Moore would do with all starters versus the opponent's starters.

I watched the game also more than once and with the long ball not working well with Wallace yet again, the terrible interception and another almost interception that hit the defender in the hands, I would definitely say Tanne was average this night at best. He did some good things. Hitting a receiver (especially Wallace) in stride with the long ball is definitely a concern. Again, I thought overall Moore seemed to play with more authority and sense of urgency. Also as I said, this was how it appeared to me using the "eye" test. That was just my opinion but at least one set of evaluators didn't think too much of Tanne either. Pff has him at a -2.3.

http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2014/08/24/pff-qb-ryan-tannehill-and-other-dolphins-offensive-starters-struggle-vs-dallas/

Whatever that means anyways. I said it before and I will say it again, I am pulling for Tanne and hope he is on fire this season. My main concerns right now are whether he can get us into the endzone and not just the redzone. TD needs to be the end result and I know it is not just him. We were playing against a bad defense also, so yeah I would say Tanne played average at best that night. It was just one game and I didn't say the sky was falling though....
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Posted: 8/26/2014 10:40 PM

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He might not have been bad but he WAS average.

Be forewarned Marx: If he doesn't start hitting on those long balls I'm gonna start up on him just like I did last season. He won't be able to hide behind your skirts...I mean shirttailspunching.gif laugh.gif
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Posted: 8/27/2014 9:36 AM

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biggrin   Seriously for the last time.....I'm not a Tannehill groupie or kool-aid drinker.   I see his positives and I see his negatives he has to work on.  My support for him that I show a lot is simply for him to get a fair shot at being a QB. Things like when I'm just getting past "1 Mississippi" and he's getting wrapped up by a defensive lineman already when watching replays and coming limping off the field looking like Saving Private Ryan Tannehill.  I also want to evaluate his timing with Mike Wallace when he has time for Wallace to complete a route and he's not being hurried.  Things like that.  But I'm not infatuated with the guy like I can see no wrong in him, just want him to have a fair shot.
Hell, if it were up to me, I would've traded him to JAX along with a draft pick to get Blake Bortles.  LOL  biggrin  Sorry Ryan.....Yes I'm eek1   That kid admittedly I'm bias about and I think odds are he's gonna be really good....but we shall see.....I hope so anyhow.



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Posted: 8/27/2014 2:59 PM

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Thanks for clarifying you stance Marx. I misunderstood your previous seemingly protective posts.biggrin I think I've given him a fair shake. I'll say the obligatory "I want him to succeed" stuff and yes, he had protection problems last year but I've still got my doubts. I still say that the long ball issue is instinct related and it can't be taught and he's had all the time anybody should need to get it down. Wallace's speed has absolutely nothing to do with that. When he pulls it off two or three times, enough to say it wasn't luck, then I'm back here admitting I'm wrong. Until then....

Last game Moore stepped in, and it wasn't the first time I've seen MM do it, and heaved a LONG ball right on the money and hit his man  in stride. Made it look easy. That's what I want to see Tannehill do.
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