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Posted: 7/19/2014 10:07 PM

is there anyone out there that we need to bring in as far 


is there anyone  out there as far as skill players  that we may bring in  ?   I know he is almost ready to retire  but with Moreno and his injury  I think we ought  to bring in  Ronnie Brown  just for depth  because Lamar Miller  isn't the answer  and Daniel Thomas  couldn't out run  Cameron  Wake . let alone  line backers and dbs  .

I heard we might bring in 2 more olinemen  but I haven't  heard about any other positions.

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Posted: 7/19/2014 10:24 PM

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Miller is fine, he should get better blocking this season and won't be asked to run that stupid option play that rarely resulted in Tannehill keeping the ball and the cadence that tells the defense it's a run. He definately was not given any advantages by Sherman or the Oline so I think he deserves another shot.
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Posted: 7/20/2014 12:31 AM

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I wouldn't count on better blocking this year as a given.

Ronnie Brown is thirty-freakin-two years old and hasn't rushed for 50 attempts in a season since leaving Miami.  Are we gonna bring back freakin Marino too?  I heard he doesn't have a job anymore either.

Stephen Ross...ur an assclown.
Sell the Dolphins immediately before you completely wreck this franchise. 

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Posted: 7/20/2014 2:06 PM

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dstock21 wrote: Miller is fine, he should get better blocking this season and won't be asked to run that stupid option play that rarely resulted in Tannehill keeping the ball and the cadence that tells the defense it's a run. He definately was not given any advantages by Sherman or the Oline so I think he deserves another shot.

Miller is fine? He should get better blocking this season? Love your optimism and we need it, but neither of those statements can be factually supported.

Even by  Dolphin standards, this offseason has been particularly lame.
Other than firings, suspensions, injuries, and a bland draft, not much to get juiced up about.

The recent decline in the volume of posts on the board reflects the offseason malaise.
Things should pick up once camp opens. I hope so.

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Posted: 7/20/2014 3:49 PM

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It never dawned on me until Clayton was talking about it, but TEN has a bunch of talent at OL and only  starting spots.  They signed Oher in the offseason.  They drafted Lewan.  They also have Michael Roos at LT who played pretty well last year.  None of them can kick inside because they have Levitre and Porkchop. 
It COULD come down to a salary cap issues where Oher and Roos fight it out for 1 spot.  The thinking being that Lewan has one spot and if they keep Oher, which they would almost have to with the contract they just signed him to, Roos is out.
TEN probably tries to trade him.  In a perfect world, he hits FA and we can sign him and kick him inside.  Realistically, he gets traded. 
That TEN OL is the best in the NFL, Id say.

Stephen Ross...ur an assclown.
Sell the Dolphins immediately before you completely wreck this franchise. 

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Posted: 7/20/2014 7:27 PM

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Yeah it's a guess that the blocking will be improved, hopefully I should have said. It was pretty freaking bad last year and almost all those guys are gone so you would like to think we got 4 better players than we had. We'll see I guess. I have been staying away because I'm tired of arguing or reading arguments about who we should have taken, who will be better this year, who will suck, and why those opinions are wrong. I haven't even been reading about the Phins which is something I always did. I'm over it, put up or shut up. So sick of the yearly BS list of supposed breakout players. It's the same chit during the offseason, I'll be back when something is actually happening next week.
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Posted: 7/20/2014 8:27 PM

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Agree. I hear everything you're saying. 
Because the offseason story lines have been so uneventful or negative, our excitement level going into this year is lower than last year. 
That doesn't mean things can't get exciting  once camp starts.


1. Tanny likes his Oline (whatever that means) and maybe the new OLine will be better. (can't get much worse ... we all agree)
2. Lazor is the "X" factor. Have to believe Lazor is an improvement over Sherman and Wallace is saying all the right things.
3.  It's put up or shut up time. This is the critical 3rd year for Philbin, Coyle Tannehill, and Lamar Miller Jobs are on the line.


Let's all hang in there and be pleasantly surprised.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:29 AM

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No one has mentioned that Tannehill will be in a brand new offense for the 1st time since he showed up to college.  Who can say that Lazor is the x factor when we don't even know if Tannehill can grasp the offense from jump street? 
So does that mean that Lazor is a bad OC if Tannehill cant pick up the offense?  Or is it about time SOMEONE actually held the players accountable?  Or does that fly in the face of firing everyone at the end of every season?  Studies show that constant turnover is the model for consistency, right?  Half-ass a team together and fire the coach that cant force them to win.

Stephen Ross...ur an assclown.
Sell the Dolphins immediately before you completely wreck this franchise. 

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Posted: 7/21/2014 8:50 AM

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Once again this is the pivotal 3rd year, if Jumpin' Joe can pull out a winning season, he'll get a contract extension and probably a ticker tape parade in Downtown Miami.  
If he craps out, he'll be canned.
I know Philbin walks on water for you but this is a union based "players league" and coaches get the sacrificial lamb treatment every year.

I'm hopin' for a 12-4 season. Do you think that's reasonable?


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Posted: 7/21/2014 9:24 AM

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FreeWanny wrote:

Once again this is the pivotal 3rd year, if Jumpin' Joe can pull out a winning season, he'll get a contract extension and probably a ticker tape parade in Downtown Miami.  
If he craps out, he'll be canned.
I know Philbin walks on water for you but this is a union based "players league" and coaches get the sacrificial lamb treatment every year.

I'm hopin' for a 12-4 season. Do you think that's reasonable?



12-4?  Are you drunk?  That's completely absurd. 

And ONCE AGAIN, you are wrong.  I don't think he walks on water.  Ive said it several times.  Its time for you to start comprehending what you read.  Or maybe its the retention part that you struggle with?  All ive EVER said was that he deserves a FAIR shot.  You CANNOT say that he has been given a fair shot here.  NO OTHER HC has ever had to deal with a scandal like Philbin had to and still almost made the playoffs had it not been for a kicker that lost focus a few games during the season.  Sturgis makes a FG against the Bills early in the season and we are in and you have to find something else to complain about to get Philbin fired.

Name the other HCs that have had to deal with a scandal like that.  Ill wait...
Name another HC that has had to start an ENTIRELY NEW OL.  Ill wait...

This is about the time you duck out of the conversation.  You and many others with ur heads in the clouds think that a HC takes chicken schitt and makes chicken salad on a yearly basis.  You want to give Phjlbin 1 year with a GM that might be able to get some talent and if it doesn't work, you wanna fire him.  Don't take the OL into consideration.  I know you don't understand how a front office works, so you still think that Philbin runs the draft and the GM is there to get sandwiches and coffee during the draft and free agency...

Stephen Ross...ur an assclown.
Sell the Dolphins immediately before you completely wreck this franchise. 

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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:03 AM

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chzamp wrote:
FreeWanny wrote:

Once again this is the pivotal 3rd year, if Jumpin' Joe can pull out a winning season, he'll get a contract extension and probably a ticker tape parade in Downtown Miami.  
If he craps out, he'll be canned.
I know Philbin walks on water for you but this is a union based "players league" and coaches get the sacrificial lamb treatment every year.

I'm hopin' for a 12-4 season. Do you think that's reasonable?



12-4?  Are you drunk?  That's completely absurd. 

And ONCE AGAIN, you are wrong.  I don't think he walks on water.  Ive said it several times.  Its time for you to start comprehending what you read.  Or maybe its the retention part that you struggle with?  All ive EVER said was that he deserves a FAIR shot.  You CANNOT say that he has been given a fair shot here.  NO OTHER HC has ever had to deal with a scandal like Philbin had to and still almost made the playoffs had it not been for a kicker that lost focus a few games during the season.  Sturgis makes a FG against the Bills early in the season and we are in and you have to find something else to complain about to get Philbin fired.

Name the other HCs that have had to deal with a scandal like that.  Ill wait...
Name another HC that has had to start an ENTIRELY NEW OL.  Ill wait...

This is about the time you duck out of the conversation.  You and many others with ur heads in the clouds think that a HC takes chicken schitt and makes chicken salad on a yearly basis.  You want to give Phjlbin 1 year with a GM that might be able to get some talent and if it doesn't work, you wanna fire him.  Don't take the OL into consideration.  I know you don't understand how a front office works, so you still think that Philbin runs the draft and the GM is there to get sandwiches and coffee during the draft and free agency...
So are you denying that a HC and his staff can make a HUGE impact on the success or failure of a team? After all, it's the coach and his assistants that evaluate the talent on a football team is it not? If the team doesn't have the horses to win, who is that on? The GM and the HC. Well, the GM that built this mediocre roster is gone so that leaves the HC and his staff. Philbin did the right thing in getting Sherman out of there, but it remains to be seen if Lazor is the guy to turn this offense around. As for RTH flopping n his third season, again who is at least partially responsible for RTH being here? If RTH isn't the man, then Philbin has to take SOME ownership of the decision to draft the kid.

Who is at least partially responsible for the chit storm that happened last season? Philbin is the top dog in the locker room. He helped appoint Incognito as a Captain and team leader. No, he couldnt' know everything that happened in the locker room. No, he couldn't predict that he had such a wuss in Martin who would cry and whine and make the situation much worse than it should have been. Still, when incidents this far reaching and this chaotic happen in the locker room or on the practice field you'd expect there to be obvious signs of a problem and for the HC and his staff to be on top of things. YES the coaches have to babysit their players. Absolutely they do. Anyone who thinks the HC and his staff are absolved of anything their players do or don't do when they leave the facility is living in a dream world. No, Philbin and co couldn't monitor tweets and social media 24/7 to see what was happening, but they SHOULD have talked to Martin (Known to be a headcase since being drafted) regularly, along with the rest of the players, about how they are coping and what is going on with their lives. I would have especially been more hands on with Incognito and Pouncey. Everyone knew RI's personality issues. If the team wanted RI to play for them, they should have put more checks and balances in place to control his behavior. They didn't. That's on the organization and on the HC.

For me, I pray Philbin is like a Tom Landry whose quiet demeanor brings stability and professionalism to the team. I hope Miami wins at least 10 this season and makes it to the playoffs. I just don't see it under Philbin. I don't see him as a leader of men. So if the team muddles in another mediocre season, you would keep Philbin for the sake of continuity? Remember Detroit under Wayne Fontes? He stuck around for awhile. There was continuity. Know what they didn't have? Championships!!!  This will be Joe Phil's 3rd season at the helm. Let's see what happens. If he fails to lift the team to a wild card level, then I would HOPE that Ross gives his GM the opportunity to evaluate the coaching staff at the end of the season. If a guy like Mike Tomlin becomes available at the end of this season and our team has floundered once again, would you not take a deep look at someone like him to come in and lead this team?

"Make it Rain Hell"

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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:14 AM

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chzamp wrote:
FreeWanny wrote:

Once again this is the pivotal 3rd year, if Jumpin' Joe can pull out a winning season, he'll get a contract extension and probably a ticker tape parade in Downtown Miami.  
If he craps out, he'll be canned.
I know Philbin walks on water for you but this is a union based "players league" and coaches get the sacrificial lamb treatment every year.

I'm hopin' for a 12-4 season. Do you think that's reasonable?



12-4?  Are you drunk?  That's completely absurd. 

And ONCE AGAIN, you are wrong.  I don't think he walks on water.  Ive said it several times.  Its time for you to start comprehending what you read.  Or maybe its the retention part that you struggle with?  All ive EVER said was that he deserves a FAIR shot.  You CANNOT say that he has been given a fair shot here.  NO OTHER HC has ever had to deal with a scandal like Philbin had to and still almost made the playoffs had it not been for a kicker that lost focus a few games during the season.  Sturgis makes a FG against the Bills early in the season and we are in and you have to find something else to complain about to get Philbin fired.

Name the other HCs that have had to deal with a scandal like that.  Ill wait...
Name another HC that has had to start an ENTIRELY NEW OL.  Ill wait...

This is about the time you duck out of the conversation.  You and many others with ur heads in the clouds think that a HC takes chicken schitt and makes chicken salad on a yearly basis.  You want to give Phjlbin 1 year with a GM that might be able to get some talent and if it doesn't work, you wanna fire him.  Don't take the OL into consideration.  I know you don't understand how a front office works, so you still think that Philbin runs the draft and the GM is there to get sandwiches and coffee during the draft and free agency...
12-4? Just playin' . Nobody's buying your  Philbin pity scenario.
Didn't Philbin, himself, accept the blame and responsibility for the scandal that "no other HC had to deal with?"
If you don't think Philbin has been given a fair shot, that's also ridiculous.
He's still here.

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Posted: 7/21/2014 10:20 AM

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FreeWanny wrote:
chzamp wrote:
FreeWanny wrote:

Once again this is the pivotal 3rd year, if Jumpin' Joe can pull out a winning season, he'll get a contract extension and probably a ticker tape parade in Downtown Miami.  
If he craps out, he'll be canned.
I know Philbin walks on water for you but this is a union based "players league" and coaches get the sacrificial lamb treatment every year.

I'm hopin' for a 12-4 season. Do you think that's reasonable?



12-4?  Are you drunk?  That's completely absurd. 

And ONCE AGAIN, you are wrong.  I don't think he walks on water.  Ive said it several times.  Its time for you to start comprehending what you read.  Or maybe its the retention part that you struggle with?  All ive EVER said was that he deserves a FAIR shot.  You CANNOT say that he has been given a fair shot here.  NO OTHER HC has ever had to deal with a scandal like Philbin had to and still almost made the playoffs had it not been for a kicker that lost focus a few games during the season.  Sturgis makes a FG against the Bills early in the season and we are in and you have to find something else to complain about to get Philbin fired.

Name the other HCs that have had to deal with a scandal like that.  Ill wait...
Name another HC that has had to start an ENTIRELY NEW OL.  Ill wait...

This is about the time you duck out of the conversation.  You and many others with ur heads in the clouds think that a HC takes chicken schitt and makes chicken salad on a yearly basis.  You want to give Phjlbin 1 year with a GM that might be able to get some talent and if it doesn't work, you wanna fire him.  Don't take the OL into consideration.  I know you don't understand how a front office works, so you still think that Philbin runs the draft and the GM is there to get sandwiches and coffee during the draft and free agency...
12-4? Just playin' . Nobody's buying your  Philbin pity scenario.
Didn't Philbin, himself, accept the blame and responsibility for the scandal that "no other HC had to deal with?"
If you don't think Philbin has been given a fair shot, that's also ridiculous.
He's still here.
A HC is responsible for the actions of his players and the product on the field. Before anyone brings up Hernandaz and BB, no I do not think BB should be held at all responsible for Hernandez murdering (allegedly) anyone. Thing is, Hernandez never really gave the Pat's or his teammates any issues. do any of you honestly think that what happened in Miami last year would have occurred under the leadership of a Bill Belichek or one of the Harbaugh brothers? Sean Peyton? Mike Tomlin? Tom Coughlin?

I seriously doubt it.

"Make it Rain Hell"

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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:06 AM

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So far Filben has not impressed.   He hiring of Sherman (and allowing the hut...hut, hut...nonesencse) is the biggest red flag that he is in over his head.  However, much like RTH, this is really is last year to impress.  Year three...shoot Seattle turned that miserable program around in that amount of time but it had a great front office to get talent and competent coaching.  MIami's front office...wow...just the worst in the league for a long time.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 5:36 PM

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Wanny, a leader ALWAYS takes blame for things that he knows he had no control over. I cant believe I need to say this, but you are conveniently forgetting things to try to get a response out of me. How many times in history have we seen a QB take responsibility for a loss that clearly wasn't his fault? Happens all the time. Brady takes responsibility for a loss when we ALL know he has and has always had mediocre WRs. But he steps in front of the camera and says HE needs to play better in order to deflect criticism away from the other players. Philbin did the same thing. Its called being a leader. What none of you understand is the dynamic of the locker room. Hoodie doesn't have a glass office in the center of the locker room so he can see everything. Tomlin doesn't shower with the players. Coughlin doesn't go to the cluuuub with his players. Payton doesn't wiretap the player's cellies. The locker room is for the PLAYERS. And player after player after player after player and KC after HC after HC after HC has said that. Try turning on NFL Network or NFL Live on ESPN. So what gives? ALL of those other teams have been constructed the same way. They have leaders in the locker room to police the BS. Who did Ireland give us for leaders? "But chzamp, we had Jake and and and Sean Smith and and...". Ok. Jake was a walking triage unit. Smith struggled in....oh I dunno...PASS PROTECTION, which was his JOB. And now hes doing the same thing in KC. Its make or break for him. And Jake's health made STL draft Robinson 2nd overall. Was Philbin stocking the shelves with talented leaders? No. Why? BECAUSE THE GM STOCKS THE SHELVES!! I cant believe this is such a hard concept to grasp. There were stories about Hernandez being on the team as a rookie and asking Welker for help finding something. Welker being himself, said something to the affect of "find it yourself, rook". Hernandez told Welker that he would kill him. No joke. It was discussed on NFL Network when the whole Hernandez thing went down. So where was Hoodie? He should be fired since that was said on the team property, right, Dante? But what happened? Welker didn't see the need to go to Hooie. So Hoodie didn't know. Hernandez never hung out socially with his teammates. Shouldn't that have been a sign? FIRE HOODIE!! I DEMAND IT!! Hindsight is 20/20. When you want someone out, you can use hindsight to try to pile on. No one has the capability to judge the situation in the moment.

Stephen Ross...ur an assclown.
Sell the Dolphins immediately before you completely wreck this franchise. 

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Posted: 7/22/2014 9:49 AM

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chzamp wrote: Wanny, a leader ALWAYS takes blame for things that he knows he had no control over. I cant believe I need to say this, but you are conveniently forgetting things to try to get a response out of me. How many times in history have we seen a QB take responsibility for a loss that clearly wasn't his fault? Happens all the time. Brady takes responsibility for a loss when we ALL know he has and has always had mediocre WRs. But he steps in front of the camera and says HE needs to play better in order to deflect criticism away from the other players. Philbin did the same thing. Its called being a leader. What none of you understand is the dynamic of the locker room. Hoodie doesn't have a glass office in the center of the locker room so he can see everything. Tomlin doesn't shower with the players. Coughlin doesn't go to the cluuuub with his players. Payton doesn't wiretap the player's cellies. The locker room is for the PLAYERS. And player after player after player after player and KC after HC after HC after HC has said that. Try turning on NFL Network or NFL Live on ESPN. So what gives? ALL of those other teams have been constructed the same way. They have leaders in the locker room to police the BS. Who did Ireland give us for leaders? "But chzamp, we had Jake and and and Sean Smith and and...". Ok. Jake was a walking triage unit. Smith struggled in....oh I dunno...PASS PROTECTION, which was his JOB. And now hes doing the same thing in KC. Its make or break for him. And Jake's health made STL draft Robinson 2nd overall. Was Philbin stocking the shelves with talented leaders? No. Why? BECAUSE THE GM STOCKS THE SHELVES!! I cant believe this is such a hard concept to grasp. There were stories about Hernandez being on the team as a rookie and asking Welker for help finding something. Welker being himself, said something to the affect of "find it yourself, rook". Hernandez told Welker that he would kill him. No joke. It was discussed on NFL Network when the whole Hernandez thing went down. So where was Hoodie? He should be fired since that was said on the team property, right, Dante? But what happened? Welker didn't see the need to go to Hooie. So Hoodie didn't know. Hernandez never hung out socially with his teammates. Shouldn't that have been a sign? FIRE HOODIE!! I DEMAND IT!! Hindsight is 20/20. When you want someone out, you can use hindsight to try to pile on. No one has the capability to judge the situation in the moment.
Sure hindsite IS 20/20. Now that we know Hernandez is a murderer (allegedly), we can pull the Welker thing out of context completely and make it seem like it was a big deal at the time. What did Hernandez actually say?:  

"shalise manza young         @shalisemyoung Follow

re Welker/Hernandez interaction frm story: Hernandez's response was "f--- you Wes, I'll f--- you up!" (Globe is family friendly paper ;)

9:07 AM - 21 Jun 2013."

"F*** you Wes, I'll f*** you  up!" Oooooooooooooh, a football player cursing and making stupid threats to another football player. That NEVER happens. In fact, it warrants a Grand Jury investigation!  Please. Quit making that incident out to be anything more than it was. A young buck snapping back at a Vet who was giving him the gears. It wasn't reported even WHEN it happened. Only a couple of years later AFTER the world realized that AH might have actually meant what he said.

No, Tomlin, Hoodie, Coughlin, Carrol et al do not own the locker room. Oh wait, yes they do. They may not be IN the locker room at all times. They may not be aware of every little thing that happens in the locker room, as players tend to do a good job of policing themselves for the most part. However, to say the coaches don't know what goes on in their locker rooms and with their players is a load of crap. It tries to justify Philbins complete cluelessness to the mood of his players and what is going on with his roster. Coaches like Couhlin and Hoodie actually put programs in place (Mentorship programs for example, matching young guys with older vets for guidance. Coughlin has done this on several occasions) to help guide players and give them an outlet to discuss issues they may have in an open and honest fashion. They appoint players who are Vets they can trust and their teammates look up to. When Martin was going through his stuff, the report even said that the staff didn't provide him with a safe outlet to discuss his issues. He felt he couldn't TRUST THE STAFF!!! Why?

Sure, Hoodie has Brady but it didn't all stop and end with Tom Brady as the sole leader of that team. Hoodie also has Wilfork and McCourty. Hoodie had guys like Welker, Seau, James Harrison, Vrabel, Bruschi, Faulk, a plethora of O-Linemen, Brown the WR, McGuinist et al as leaders. Some came in as leaders, some DEVELOPED INTO THE ROLE. What Hoodie NEVER did, nor did Tomlin, the Harbaughs, Peyton, or any of the other coaches I mentioned, is take one of the potential locker room cancers and MAKE HIM A TEAM LEADER!!! Randy Moss was never asked to be a team leader. Hakeem Nicks in NYG was never a team leader. James Harrison with the Steelers? Loudmouth, but a team leader? Off the field? Vernon Davis or Crabtree with San Fran? Nope. 

So what do Philbin and Co do? Ask RI to step up and be a TEAM LEADER!!! Of all the stupid decisions, take the biggest bully and malcontent (albeit seemingly reformed) in your locker room (and one of the biggest a$$hats in the entire LEAGUE!!!) and appoint him LEADER and a team captain.  Gee, then you wonder why RI power tripped and went off his rocker again. So, Martin the little b*itch (yes I still feel he's a snitch and a b*tch) was being harassed a year AFTER he was a rookie and the ring leader of the harassment was none other than the O-Line team Captain and biggest bully in the locker room. It's not like RI's past indiscretions weren't known. It's not like Philbin and co didn't know the type of personality they had in RI. Going to blame the former GM for THAT decision too? Ridiculous.

You talk about strong leadership lacking in the locker room and blame it on the former GM. That's true to a point. The GM buys the groceries the HC cooks with. You completely negate the impact of a Jake Long in the locker room, forget about on field impact, but in the locker room. RI has said it a million times that he looked up to Big Jake and the entire team looked up to him. His value on the field was diminished. His value in the locker room could not be underestimated. Sean Smith? Who the heck ever said he was a leader of men? He's a self centered arrogant twit. So the vacuum of leadership in Miami is partially due to the former GM not bringing in pre-made leaders but also on Philbin and staff not developing leaders and appointing the completely WRONG people to be leaders in the locker room.

Philbin and staff do not have their hands on the pulse of this team. That's the biggest failure of the coaching staff to this point. Want MORE proof? The final two games of the season. The absolute lack of energy, enthusiasm, intensity, and ADJUSTMENTS by the staff to get things turned around. They stayed the course and got killed. Philbin stuck to his guns and got shot. The look of bewilderment and confusion on his face while watching his team collapse and the absolute lack of answers to try and right the ship is ALL ON PHILBIN AND CO. That dang look of buffoonery on his face, the lack of passion and fire, the lack of 'kicking the teams a$$ when it needs a good a$$ kicking, the lack of motivational ANYTHING ... is that on the former GM too?

"Make it Rain Hell"

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Posted: 7/23/2014 9:08 AM

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People...everyone dropped the ball on Hernandez to keep him playing...frim Urban Myer, the Gainesville police...to Hoodie and the Patriots.  Philbin has certainly underwhelmed in his first two seasons on a number of levels.  This is his last year to do something and in a way his firing will not be his fault.  He simply does not have enough talent to do more than 8-8, if that. 

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Posted: 7/23/2014 12:13 PM

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Dante, you made my point.  The GM is the one that builds the team.  You can only coach the players on your team.  If the GM thinks he is the smartest guy in the room and doesn't work WITH the HC to get him the players he needs to make his system work the way its supposed to, is that the HC's fault?  If you think so, you know nothing about the dynamics of how any job works. 
So Ireland is gone FINALLY.  So Im assuming you think he did a fantastic job stocking the shelves before he was shown the door, righ?  No?  So Philbin is responsible for fixing all of Ireland's BS in ONE year?  We have a new GM.  Hickey stocks the shelves now.  HOPEFULLY, he asks for Philbin's input.  We don't know.  No stories have come out about their relationship except that Hickey was impressed with Philbin when he interviewed for the TB job. 
So lets take the rosy assumption and say that Hickey and Philbin are the Wonder Twins.  Does ONE year fix ALL that Ireland destroyed?  Give me a ******* break.

Stephen Ross...ur an assclown.
Sell the Dolphins immediately before you completely wreck this franchise. 

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Posted: 7/24/2014 11:08 AM

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I have never said Ireland did a competent job here. I was pounding my desk for two years hoping he was fired and he finally was let go after last season. Ireland did a poor job of stocknig the shelves. Philbin has, to this point, done a poor job of managing the players he has. Denying that means you know nothing about management and the role they play in the workplace or on the football field.

By the way, Philbin is going into his THIRD year as HC. Not his second. He's had 2 years to mold the personnel of this team into his image. Ireland was an a$$hat. Philbin, to me, is a clueless drone. Where were the in game adjustments against Buffalo (TWICE) and the NY Jets in the last game of the season? Nothing. No imagination on stemming the tide or momentum. He trusted his sidekick Sherman to a fault. i wonder who actually fired Sherman too? Was it Philbin, or was his arm twisted by Ross to get rid of his best buddy? We'll never know, but Philbin's insistence on keeping Sherman as OC after his FIRST season was his biggest mistake.

We'll see what happens this season. We'll see if the team and coaches react differently to adversity. If the players respond to Philbin and fight for him and the staff. When things are going well and clicking it's easy to coach a team. It's when a team faces an in game challenge, or are struggling to click, that coaching, preparation, and leadership make the difference between winning and losing.  In 2 years, I haven't seen Philbin display much to tell me he can lead, prepare, or coach this team through adversity.

Oh yes, and before anyone says "He coached the team through one of the worst scandals in an NFL lockerroom in years", if he was an actual leader and had the pulse of the team and was paying attention, the Martin/Incognito issue would never have become as out of control as it became.

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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:12 PM

Re: is there anyone out there that we need to bring in as far 


Where to start with this wrongness...

I have 20 years of management experience in the workplace and heres what I know.  When people don't do their jobs up to the standards set, I can train more and hope they have the ability to learn.  If they don't, I have the ability to cut said employee's hours and hope that they leave on their own.  If that doesn't work, I can document the specific behavior that I want to curtail and let them know that if their performance doesn't change, they are subject to further disciplinary action up to and including termination.  I can create a paper trail to cover my ass in case they want to say I didn't give them notice and then when the time comes, I can terminate them.  Don't tell me I know nothing about management. 
The NFL is a different dynamic.  I had the choice of who I wanted to hire.  Philbin does NOT.  I had the option to take a high salaried employee and start the process if things weren't going the way I think they should.  Philbin doesn't get to dump Wheeler after seeing him for half a year.  There are salary cap ramifications.  On top of that, he has to tell then GM Ireland that he did a piss poor job of evaluating Wheeler and FORCE Ireland to cut him with NO regards to the salary cap.  Not happening.  As a manager I can mold my staff knowing that I can change the staff as need be to get the outcome that I want.  Philbin cant do that.  He answers to the GM.  MOST GMs make an attempt to get on the same page as their HC.  Ireland thought he was the ma smartest guy in the room and didn't listen to Philbin in the INTERVIEW when Philbin TOLD him that he watched a bunch of Dolphins tape and said the BIGGEST need for this franchise was OL.  That was BEFORE PHILBIN WAS HIRED.  With GM and HC not on the same page, Philbin gets what Ireland thinks the team needs and Philbin tries to put the square pegs in the round holes.
And as for the bullying issue...  As a manager I cant read minds.  If Sally doesn't tell me that Edgar is commenting on her boobs, I wont know its happening.  To think otherwise means you know NOTHING about being a manager.  Sally has to come to me or to HR if she is uncomfortable in any way.  If Edgar sees Sally in a bar and squeezes her butt, how am I supposed to know that when Im at home with my wife and kids?  If Sally files a police report then Edgar is on his last leg.  At that point I call HR to make sure we don't have any legal ramifications by firing Edgar and then move swiftly.  Sally (JMart) said NOTHING to Philbin.  Nothing.  Nothing.  Do you SERIOUSLY expect the culprits to say something?  Get real.  The bulk of this abuse happened outside the locker room after hours. 

Freaking Cam Cameron got canned after 1 year of going 1-15.  YOU want Philbin canned after going 7-9 and 8-8 with inferior talent that he cant change.  You want change for change's sake.  Last I checked, the OL is COMPLETELY new this year.  The offense is new and the OL coach is new.  So in the wanny and dante plan, strip the line down, change the coaching staff and GM and you get ONE year to make that work.  If you cant get to the playoffs with the 31st ranked team, GET OUT. 
That's awesome.  At this rate, we will NEVERR get a viable HC candidate.  See. what you fail to realize is that NFL ciaches and execs see how franchises handle these kind of issues.  NO ONE wants to accept a job where the HC position is a rotating door.  When other assistant coaches see that the team changes every year, they start saying NO.  Cleveland is an example.  They cant GIVE that job away unless there is the added bonus of high draft picks and even THEN, they ant get anyone from their top 5 candidates list.

Stephen Ross...ur an assclown.
Sell the Dolphins immediately before you completely wreck this franchise. 

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