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Almost everyone showed up today

Posted: 4/21/2014 4:27 PM

Almost everyone showed up today 


Mike Wallace only absent player as Miami Dolphins report for first day of offseason workouts

by Andrew Abramson
The Dolphins are back in Davie today.

Voluntary offseason workouts have begun and players trickled into the training facility this morning.

The Palm Beach Post has learned that receiver Mike Wallace was the only player not there today, however it is believed he will show up tomorrow. Team officials knew Wallace wouldn’t be in Davie today because of a previously scheduled engagement and he is supposed to arrive in town tonight.

Last season defensive tackle Randy Starks skipped early workouts to protest receiving the team’s franchise tag. No player was given the tag this year.

The Post reported Friday that injured receivers Brian Hartline (PCL tear) and Brandon Gibson (torn patella tendon) are expected to be ready to go full strength by mini-camp.

The Dolphins posted photos of players arriving at the facility. This year’s theme is “stronger” — a fitting buzz word after a locker room scandal engulfed the team last season and Miami collapsed in the final two games.


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Posted: 4/21/2014 8:08 PM

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Smh....1 more year with this guy. If Tannehill gets off to a hot start but can't get in sync with Wallace still they should bench him and look towards the future. He's not going to be on this roster next season so it's all or nothing and so far he's given nothing into making this work. I'm sick of him I hope he changes my opinion.
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Posted: 4/21/2014 8:54 PM

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Wallace needs a monster year to hang on to his contract, 2000+ yards and 20 TD's

With as many top shelf receivers coming in I wouldn't be surprised if we did take 1 with pick 19

Making the money Wallace is, previously scheduled engagements are no longer acceptable, should not only be there but leading the workouts
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Posted: 4/22/2014 9:20 AM

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Ohhhhh but for some posters, it doesn't matter if a WR or QB practice together and work on timing issues. The 'GREATS' can throw to a parapalygic sloth and have the timing right instantly. Forget practice! Practice is for wusses!

There's some 'vision' for you. Wallace will be at 'voluntary' camp today. Lovely. Know what's ridiculous? If we were the Patriots or Seahawks or San Fransisco and are perennial playoff and SB contenders then I could understand, but the Dolphins have been mediocre for YEARS. Oh, and those teams I mentioned just now? Add Denver to them too? They ALL show up to EVERY mini-camp, voluntary workout, off-season training session, and off-site player organized practices. They put in the extra work to get to where they are. Watching NFL Network yesterday and they showed Broncos camp, and there was Peyton Manning doing weights side by side with his O-Linemen and receivers.

Our top paid WR? 'Previous Engagement'. Now I wait for the 'quit being so dramatic' crowd to chime in and say how 1 day doesn't matter and how practice for timing issues is overrated. How about learning the freaking new playbook? Running the new routes and learning the new offense? That doesn't need practice and repetitions either I guess right?

"Make it Rain Hell"

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Posted: 4/22/2014 10:51 AM

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Well the Diva "warning signs" were there with Wallace.
Pittsburgh fans did not think highly of Wallace, but what do they know ... right?
However, Ireland traded 2 seconds and 50 million dollars for B Marshall and got 2 3rd's in return and we were desperate for a #1 receiver.
10 million more for Wallace but at least no draft picks given up. (yeah)

Ireland's gone but his legacy lingers on.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 11:03 AM

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How many years do you think we have to go until people can move on from Ireland? Its going to be like that annoyingly clingy girl that keeps talking about her ex 5 years later.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 11:23 AM

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Good luck with that.  Wallace will be playing with a qb that can't throw down field well and never looks his way. 
dougb123 wrote: Wallace needs a monster year to hang on to his contract, 2000+ yards and 20 TD's

With as many top shelf receivers coming in I wouldn't be surprised if we did take 1 with pick 19

Making the money Wallace is, previously scheduled engagements are no longer acceptable, should not only be there but leading the workouts
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Posted: 4/22/2014 11:34 AM

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Take it easy!

Ireland was here 6 years and it's only been 3 months since he was turned loose.

I'm sure he will be a blip in the memory by the time the preseason rolls around, but his messes, mistakes and memories are still more relevant than a clingy girlfriend reference.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 12:24 PM

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The guy had to miss one day... no story lets move on.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 1:13 PM

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DantesDolfanInferno wrote: Ohhhhh but for some posters, it doesn't matter if a WR or QB practice together and work on timing issues. The 'GREATS' can throw to a parapalygic sloth and have the timing right instantly. Forget practice! Practice is for wusses!

There's some 'vision' for you. Wallace will be at 'voluntary' camp today. Lovely. Know what's ridiculous? If we were the Patriots or Seahawks or San Fransisco and are perennial playoff and SB contenders then I could understand, but the Dolphins have been mediocre for YEARS. Oh, and those teams I mentioned just now? Add Denver to them too? They ALL show up to EVERY mini-camp, voluntary workout, off-season training session, and off-site player organized practices. They put in the extra work to get to where they are. Watching NFL Network yesterday and they showed Broncos camp, and there was Peyton Manning doing weights side by side with his O-Linemen and receivers.

Our top paid WR? 'Previous Engagement'. Now I wait for the 'quit being so dramatic' crowd to chime in and say how 1 day doesn't matter and how practice for timing issues is overrated. How about learning the freaking new playbook? Running the new routes and learning the new offense? That doesn't need practice and repetitions either I guess right?
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Posted: 4/22/2014 3:00 PM

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DantesDolfanInferno wrote: Ohhhhh but for some posters, it doesn't matter if a WR or QB practice together and work on timing issues. The 'GREATS' can throw to a parapalygic sloth and have the timing right instantly. Forget practice! Practice is for wusses!

There's some 'vision' for you. Wallace will be at 'voluntary' camp today. Lovely. Know what's ridiculous? If we were the Patriots or Seahawks or San Fransisco and are perennial playoff and SB contenders then I could understand, but the Dolphins have been mediocre for YEARS. Oh, and those teams I mentioned just now? Add Denver to them too? They ALL show up to EVERY mini-camp, voluntary workout, off-season training session, and off-site player organized practices. They put in the extra work to get to where they are. Watching NFL Network yesterday and they showed Broncos camp, and there was Peyton Manning doing weights side by side with his O-Linemen and receivers.

Our top paid WR? 'Previous Engagement'. Now I wait for the 'quit being so dramatic' crowd to chime in and say how 1 day doesn't matter and how practice for timing issues is overrated. How about learning the freaking new playbook? Running the new routes and learning the new offense? That doesn't need practice and repetitions either I guess right?
Great. So if Tannehill throws a 43 yard pass to Wallace when it needed to go 46, you're going to be harping about April 22. That damned April 22! 

I've got no boner for Wallace. If he's replace after this year with a good WR, I'm fine with that. But I won't be making excuses for your binky, either.

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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:09 AM

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Dolphins back to work on Day 2 of offseason program
Joe Philbin says LBs need to make more game-changing plays


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Will this season be make or break for Miami Dolphins Head Coach Joe Philbin?

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7:12 p.m. EDT, April 22, 2014

DAVIE –—
The Dolphins' on-field leaders are at the voluntary offseason workouts that began Monday, and that means the process of blending returning players with newly signed free agents begins.
A year ago, that process went fairly well as the Dolphins started to mesh players such as cornerback Brent Grimes and wide receivers Mike Wallace and Brandon Gibson into the fold.

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This year the newly signed free agents include left tackle Branden Albert, running back Knowshon Moreno, defensive tackle Earl Mitchell, cornerback Cortland Finnegan and guard Shelley Smith, among others.
"It's not a perfect science," coach Joe Philbin said about blending free agents into their new team.
"One of the things you hope to do when you evaluate a prospective free agent is, is he a good fit both from a scheme standpoint and a locker room standpoint? Is he the type of guy you want to bring in? Does it make sense? That's part one.

"Just because you sign a guy to a big contract doesn't mean he's going to perform up to that level. That's always one of the risks you take in free agency."
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Wallace, who was excused from Monday's first day of workouts, was at work Tuesday.
The Dolphins were also at work on the free-agency front, signing kicker/punter Matt Szymanski to a one-year contract. Szymanski, who attended SMU (2009-10) and Texas A&M (2006-07), has no NFL statistics but spent time with Kansas City in 2012 and 2013 on the roster and practice squad.
Most likely Szymanski would mainly be an extra leg in training camp. Punter Brandon Fields made the Pro Bowl last season. Kicker Caleb Sturgis (26-for-34 on field goals, 33-for-33 on extra points) had an up-and-down rookie season, but Philbin doesn't sound as though he's ready to ditch last year's fifth-round pick.
"We have a young kicker," Philbin said. "It was kind of like rookies at other positions. You see all the qualities that you're looking for. You see the leg strength. There was a little spell there where there was a little bit of inconsistency. We have to work through that. I'm sure he will…He's a very hard worker and I expect him to improve."
In other NFL news, the league announced it will release dates for the 2014 season Wednesday. The Dolphins, who already know their opponents, will get dates and times to fill out their schedule.
As for Dolphins players, Philbin, speaking Tuesday on 940-AM (WINZ) said he's pleased with how things have gone to this point and he wasn't just talking about the first two days of the offseason program.
"We also had outstanding participation before the offseason program even started…so our guys were around a lot doing things together, working out together," he said, "so this is an extension of that. So far, so good."
Philbin said Tuesday's schedule included two hours in the weight room and lots of classroom time.
Philbin said one thing that happened during the defensive meeting defensive coordinator Kevin Coyle played tape of the newly-signed defensive free agents and told players the speed they saw on film from the newcomers was how the entire defense wants to play, meaning they should fit comfortably.
Philbin acknowledged the linebackers (Dannell Ellerbe, Philip Wheeler and Koa Misi) need to improve.
"One thing we've stressed to the entire unit, and the linebackers in particular," Philbin said, "is we need some more game-changing plays."
On another note Philbin said defensive end Dion Jordan, last year's first-round pick, has been around the facility the last two weeks and is off to a "very, very good start."
Jordan was beset last year by injuries and learning to play in a 4-3 scheme.
"We've got to get him, just like the rest of our defensive players," Philbin said, "up to speed on the particular fundamentals he's going to be using at his position, which were a little bit new last year."
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Mike Wallace only absent player as Miami Dolphins report for first day of offseason workouts

by Andrew Abramson
The Dolphins are back in Davie today.

Voluntary offseason workouts have begun and players trickled into the training facility this morning.

The Palm Beach Post has learned that receiver Mike Wallace was the only player not there today, however it is believed he will show up tomorrow. Team officials knew Wallace wouldn’t be in Davie today because of a previously scheduled engagement and he is supposed to arrive in town tonight.

Last season defensive tackle Randy Starks skipped early workouts to protest receiving the team’s franchise tag. No player was given the tag this year.

The Post reported Friday that injured receivers Brian Hartline (PCL tear) and Brandon Gibson (torn patella tendon) are expected to be ready to go full strength by mini-camp.

The Dolphins posted photos of players arriving at the facility. This year’s theme is “stronger” — a fitting buzz word after a locker room scandal engulfed the team last season and Miami collapsed in the final two games.


- See more at: blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedai...h.dMoCE77p.dpuf

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Posted: 4/23/2014 11:24 AM

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FreeWanny wrote: Well the Diva "warning signs" were there with Wallace.
Pittsburgh fans did not think highly of Wallace, but what do they know ... right?
However, Ireland traded 2 seconds and 50 million dollars for B Marshall and got 2 3rd's in return and we were desperate for a #1 receiver.
10 million more for Wallace but at least no draft picks given up. (yeah)

Ireland's gone but his legacy lingers on.
lol FreeWanny. Exactly. The Trading of Brandon Marshall for 2 3rds after giving up 2 2nds to get him here has had a ripple effect for the past 2 seasons. If he keeps Marshall aboard and doesn't cave to his whining, RTH has a TRUE #1 receiver who, despite all his personality flaws, was a hard worker, team leader (Just ask Vontae Davis), and produced 2 1000 yard seasons on the field with over 80 catches in both years with CHAD HENNE, Matt Moore, and Tyler Thigpen throwing to him ffs!!!

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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:27 PM

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Who said Pitt didn't want him? They offered him 5 yrs 55 mill he turned it down
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FreeWanny wrote: Well the Diva "warning signs" were there with Wallace.
Pittsburgh fans did not think highly of Wallace, but what do they know ... right?
However, Ireland traded 2 seconds and 50 million dollars for B Marshall and got 2 3rd's in return and we were desperate for a #1 receiver.
10 million more for Wallace but at least no draft picks given up. (yeah)

Ireland's gone but his legacy lingers on.
lol FreeWanny. Exactly. The Trading of Brandon Marshall for 2 3rds after giving up 2 2nds to get him here has had a ripple effect for the past 2 seasons. If he keeps Marshall aboard and doesn't cave to his whining, RTH has a TRUE #1 receiver who, despite all his personality flaws, was a hard worker, team leader (Just ask Vontae Davis), and produced 2 1000 yard seasons on the field with over 80 catches in both years with CHAD HENNE, Matt Moore, and Tyler Thigpen throwing to him ffs!!!

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Posted: 4/24/2014 9:48 AM

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NationsBIGGESTFinFan wrote:
DantesDolfanInferno wrote: Ohhhhh but for some posters, it doesn't matter if a WR or QB practice together and work on timing issues. The 'GREATS' can throw to a parapalygic sloth and have the timing right instantly. Forget practice! Practice is for wusses!

There's some 'vision' for you. Wallace will be at 'voluntary' camp today. Lovely. Know what's ridiculous? If we were the Patriots or Seahawks or San Fransisco and are perennial playoff and SB contenders then I could understand, but the Dolphins have been mediocre for YEARS. Oh, and those teams I mentioned just now? Add Denver to them too? They ALL show up to EVERY mini-camp, voluntary workout, off-season training session, and off-site player organized practices. They put in the extra work to get to where they are. Watching NFL Network yesterday and they showed Broncos camp, and there was Peyton Manning doing weights side by side with his O-Linemen and receivers.

Our top paid WR? 'Previous Engagement'. Now I wait for the 'quit being so dramatic' crowd to chime in and say how 1 day doesn't matter and how practice for timing issues is overrated. How about learning the freaking new playbook? Running the new routes and learning the new offense? That doesn't need practice and repetitions either I guess right?
Great. So if Tannehill throws a 43 yard pass to Wallace when it needed to go 46, you're going to be harping about April 22. That damned April 22! 

I've got no boner for Wallace. If he's replace after this year with a good WR, I'm fine with that. But I won't be making excuses for your binky, either.
You just don't get it. You are quick to blame RTH for the issues between the two, but don't see Wallace as part of the issue. RTH has been practicing and throwing and learning the new offense all off-season with his other WR's. Wallace? Nope. Not available. Previous commitments. Wants to spend time with his family. That's lovely. He's had since the end of December to 'spend time with his family'.  It's just one day, big deal. It's just one day of organized team activities. RTH and the receivers have been working together for weeks now, learning the offense and getting their timing down on routes. All except Wallace, but that stuff doesn't matter. WR's and QB's don't need to practice in fact, as Allen Iverson would say, who needs practice????

It's obvious you have no 'boner' over Wallace. It's also obvious that you have a boner over RTH. I make no excuses for RTH. He had a bad year trying to connect with Wallace on deep throws. That has to improve, as does pocket presence and become more vocal and the leader of that offense. Having said that, it's not ALL RTH especially when the timing issues he had was only with 1 receiver, but let's not acknowledge Wallace's role in all of this and Wallace's lack of work ethic.  It's all the QB's fault after all, right?

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Posted: 4/24/2014 3:12 PM

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Don't think that Wallace missing the 1st day of OTA means anything what so ever. Your making a mountain out of a mole hill if it could be call that.

Plenty of time before the start of the season, couple days here or there are meaningless.

Even football players have the right to go on vacation, Wallace signed a nice contract why wouldn't he take in family on a nice vacation.

This RTH has been going at it all off season is not totally on the mark either, sure he went on vacation himself, everyone needed to decompress after the season. Read the same article you did and your reading way to much into it, Rishard Matthews interview and he wasn't even in Florida when he gave it, how many receivers do you think were there Hartline and Gibson are still recovering from injury hopefully it's was the new guy's like Dion Simms and a few others who could benefit from Tannehills knowledge.

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Posted: 4/24/2014 4:01 PM

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dougb123 wrote: Don't think that Wallace missing the 1st day of OTA means anything what so ever. Your making a mountain out of a mole hill if it could be call that.

Plenty of time before the start of the season, couple days here or there are meaningless.

Even football players have the right to go on vacation, Wallace signed a nice contract why wouldn't he take in family on a nice vacation.

This RTH has been going at it all off season is not totally on the mark either, sure he went on vacation himself, everyone needed to decompress after the season. Read the same article you did and your reading way to much into it, Rishard Matthews interview and he wasn't even in Florida when he gave it, how many receivers do you think were there Hartline and Gibson are still recovering from injury hopefully it's was the new guy's like Dion Simms and a few others who could benefit from Tannehills knowledge.
**Sigh** It's not the one day of practice per say. Yes RTH took time off after the season, but for the past few weeks he's been in Florida working out with whatever healthy receiving bodies he has available. How much time off does one need after a season that ended in the end of December? 3 months off (January to end March) isn't enough?

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Posted: 4/24/2014 4:26 PM

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DantesDolfanInferno wrote:
dougb123 wrote: Don't think that Wallace missing the 1st day of OTA means anything what so ever. Your making a mountain out of a mole hill if it could be call that.

Plenty of time before the start of the season, couple days here or there are meaningless.

Even football players have the right to go on vacation, Wallace signed a nice contract why wouldn't he take in family on a nice vacation.

This RTH has been going at it all off season is not totally on the mark either, sure he went on vacation himself, everyone needed to decompress after the season. Read the same article you did and your reading way to much into it, Rishard Matthews interview and he wasn't even in Florida when he gave it, how many receivers do you think were there Hartline and Gibson are still recovering from injury hopefully it's was the new guy's like Dion Simms and a few others who could benefit from Tannehills knowledge.
**Sigh** It's not the one day of practice per say. Yes RTH took time off after the season, but for the past few weeks he's been in Florida working out with whatever healthy receiving bodies he has available. How much time off does one need after a season that ended in the end of December? 3 months off (January to end March) isn't enough?

I think what Dante's is trying to get at here is not so much that the one day will have a vital impact, but it's more from a perception standpoint, as the #1 WR who had connection problems with Ryan last year.  It's the perception of not making that effort and show the team and the fans he means business this year to get this show on the road.

Example scenario - As an owner of a company that has a big deal coming up that could make or break the company. I have two employees, and one leaves early every single day and takes the day off or calls in sick, the other not only shows up and stays late every night trying to get everything done but comes in on the weekend too, wanting to perfect this proposal and make the deal happen.  Now the first employee may very well be a good employee, does good work, and has every right to his/her vacation or sick time, but from a perception standpoint, the second employee giving his all 110% for the benefit of the organization is going to come off being held in much higher regard. And if he's the captain or manager of a group, he sets an example for his co-workers and staff and it rubs off on them as well.  Not even throwing in the multi-million $ salary into the equation.

Again, it may very well have absolutely no impact whatsoever, he and Ryan may suck again (video flashback: "oh no we suck again!" lol curse whoever it was who posted that!!) or they may light it up this year.    But effort and perception. I think that's what we're getting at here.  noidea

If I'm wrong that's not what you're trying to get at Dante, then sorry everyone just forget everything I just said  biggrin



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Posted: 4/24/2014 4:47 PM

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No not really my point is there is still 5+ months until football, no reason to start the negative talk until something negative happens. Should be concentrating on draft, everyone knows both Tannehill and Wallace need big seasons. Wallace wants to keep his money and Tannehill wants to prove he belongs so I'm sure there both going to do what's needed to make this work.

IMO Tannehill likes Wallace and wants to make it work... Wallace seems to be excited about the new offense Lazor is installing...

Everything is on the upbeat, lets let them work...
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Posted: 4/24/2014 5:08 PM

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dougb123 wrote: No not really my point is there is still 5+ months until football, no reason to start the negative talk until something negative happens. Should be concentrating on draft, everyone knows both Tannehill and Wallace need big seasons. Wallace wants to keep his money and Tannehill wants to prove he belongs so I'm sure there both going to do what's needed to make this work.

IMO Tannehill likes Wallace and wants to make it work... Wallace seems to be excited about the new offense Lazor is installing...

Everything is on the upbeat, lets let them work...

I agree with this as well.  thumbup.gif  

I can actually understand more than one point of view.
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