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I love me some stats, but................

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Posted: 4/2/2013 12:52 AM

I love me some stats, but................ 


I ran into this on a discussion (and justification) of Romo's new contract.
Somebody posted that the numbers don't lie and a chart to back it up......
I refrained from the conversation but found it highly entertaining. (in a can't look away from a train wreck kinda way)

How many of you think that Tony Romo is the 5th best qb of all time? eek

You also might be interested to know that according to the numbers, Dan Marino couldn't hold Chad Pennington or Matt Schaub's jock.......eek

Joe Montana? pffft!
He's Phillip River's biatch! eek

Otto Graham?
A chump compared to Daunte Culpepper.....eek

You are all Dolphin fans.
3 of the top 20 highest rated passers of all time have worn your colors.
Which would you choose? (that might be the stupidest question in the history of message boards......but according to the numbers....crazy)

I'm gonna (safely) assume that y'all have more sense than some of the Romo fanboys who stand by his stats and argue that he's one of the best qbs to ever lace em up.....

Sometimes....in real life.....numbers lie.....noidea
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NFL Career Passer Rating Leaders

Rank Player (age), + - HOFer, Bold - Active Rate Years Teams
1. Aaron Rodgers (29) 104.9 2005-2012 gnb
2. Steve Young+ 96.8 1985-1999 2TM
3. Tom Brady (35) 96.6 2000-2012 nwe
4. Peyton Manning (36) 95.7 1998-2012 2TM
5. Tony Romo (32) 95.6 2004-2012 dal
6. Philip Rivers (31) 94.5 2004-2012 sdg
7. Drew Brees (33) 94.3 2001-2012 2TM
8. Kurt Warner 93.7 1998-2009 3TM
9. Ben Roethlisberger (30) 92.7 2004-2012 pit
10. Joe Montana+ 92.3 1979-1994 2TM
11. Matt Schaub (31) 91.9 2004-2012 2TM
12. Matt Ryan (27) 90.9 2008-2012 atl
13. Chad Pennington 90.1 2000-2010 2TM
14. Daunte Culpepper 87.8 1999-2009 4TM
15. Jeff Garcia 87.5 1999-2011 6TM
16. Otto Graham+ 86.6 1946-1955 cle
17. Dan Marino+ 86.4 1983-1999 mia
18. Joe Flacco (27) 86.3 2008-2012 rav
19. Carson Palmer (33) 86.2 2004-2012 2TM
20. Brett Favre 86.0 1991-2010 4TM
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Last edited 4/2/2013 12:55 AM by battleredtexan

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Posted: 4/2/2013 2:48 AM

RE: I love me some stats, but................ 


Dan Marino 16 years in the Dolphin Uni and he's 17th in stats, but #1 in my book. In his day he was the best and is respected more than any of the rest. It was an exciting time.
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Posted: 4/2/2013 6:53 AM

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I think most Dolphins fans would take Marino of over anyone else in that list.
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Posted: 4/2/2013 4:53 PM

RE: I love me some stats, but................ 


Any qb list that has Joe Montana listed 10th, Dan Marino below that, and John Elway not even on it....... is garbage....noidea
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Posted: 4/3/2013 11:04 AM

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battleredtexan wrote: Any qb list that has Joe Montana listed 10th, Dan Marino below that, and John Elway not even on it....... is garbage....noidea
That's why the Passer Rating stat is the biggest load of garbage Stat ever to be invented. 

Wins, TD passes, Playoff Appearances, and leadership intangibles are more important than anything else.  Tony Romo is a choke artist who will NEVER EVER lead his team to the SB or sniff anywhere near one.  Period.  End of Story.  Buffoons who support Romo's signing by Dallas deserve what their crap team gets.

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Posted: 4/7/2013 8:03 PM

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FYI - passer rating does not take in consideration fumbles, sacks, rushing yardage, won/loss record, 3rd down efficiency, 4th quarter scoring, etc.


Romo 9 years - has a career 2097/3240  64.7%  177 tds, 91 ints, 178 sacks, 51 fumbles, 518 yards rushing, avg passing yds/game 212, game winning drives -19, qb rating 95.6, career passer rating- 116 and has career interception rate of 2.8% -- at his current pace Romo would complete 3961 in passes in 6,120 attempts

Marino - 17 years - 4967/8358 59.4% 420 tds, 252 ints, 270 sacks, 110 fumbles, 87 yards rushing, avg passing yds/game 253.6,  game winning drives - 51,  QB rating- 86.4, Career passer rating- 113 and had a career interception rate of 3%

-- at his current pace Romo would complete 3961 in passes in 6,120 attempts, 334 tds, 177 ints, 337 sacks, 97 fumbles, 36 game winning drives and also one big thing to consider is Marino's last 3 seasons were 3 of his 4 worst years in qb rating, and 3 of his lowest td % of his career.

Now here is an interesting facts-

If you take out Marinos last 3 years, here are his adjusted stats- 4,134/6904 60%, 369 tds, 209 ints, 218 sacks, 88 fumbles, avg passing yds/game - 260, gw drives- 43, qb ratings - 88.9, passer rating 117

His weighted average value ranking is 9th since 1950
Romos weighted average value is 508th since 1950.


The trials of being a Dolphins fan .... Welcome to a new era!! Will it work??
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Posted: 4/9/2013 2:20 PM

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battleredtexan wrote: Any qb list that has Joe Montana listed 10th, Dan Marino below that, and John Elway not even on it....... is garbage....noidea

This isn't even just about insult to Marino.  There is so much wrong with this chart I can't even complete my thoughts.....things like, hth is Romo and Rivers even anywhere near smelling Top 20?  Big Ben?  Matt Freaking Schaub?  Matt Freaking Ryan?  No Elway?  Montana #10?  Marino #17?  Aaron Rodgers #1???   Chad Pennington???   Carson Palmer??????

DAUNTE CULPEPPER????   

This chart makes me want to delete the entire internet.




NFL Career Passer Rating Leaders

Rank Player (age), + - HOFer, Bold - Active Rate Years Teams
1.Aaron Rodgers (29)104.92005-2012gnb
2.Steve Young+96.81985-19992TM
3.Tom Brady (35)96.62000-2012nwe
4.Peyton Manning (36)95.71998-20122TM
5.Tony Romo (32)95.62004-2012dal
6.Philip Rivers (31)94.52004-2012sdg
7.Drew Brees (33)94.32001-20122TM
8.Kurt Warner93.71998-20093TM
9.Ben Roethlisberger (30)92.72004-2012pit
10.Joe Montana+92.31979-19942TM
11.Matt Schaub (31)91.92004-20122TM
12.Matt Ryan (27)90.92008-2012atl
13.Chad Pennington90.12000-20102TM
14.Daunte Culpepper87.81999-20094TM
15.Jeff Garcia87.51999-20116TM
16.Otto Graham+86.61946-1955cle
17.Dan Marino+86.41983-1999mia
18.Joe Flacco (27)86.32008-2012rav
19.Carson Palmer (33)86.22004-20122TM
20.Brett Favre86.01991-20104TM



Last edited 4/9/2013 2:21 PM by Marx8385

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Posted: 4/9/2013 7:04 PM

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This chart had to have been made by a 20-30 yr old. There are HOFers not even on it. Where are Fouts, Starr, Staubach, Griese, Tarkenton, Kelly, Unitas, etc? Otto Graham is the only guy there who did not play in or later than the 1980s.
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Posted: 4/10/2013 9:43 AM

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What is Daunte Culpepper doing on this list? That one name discredits the whole thing the rest are QBs who I would have glady had on our roster in the last 12 years.
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Posted: 4/10/2013 10:42 AM

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dstock21 wrote: What is Daunte Culpepper doing on this list? That one name discredits the whole thing the rest are QBs who I would have glady had on our roster in the last 12 years.

Exactly.   Should read Daunte Culpepper*      


*only when playing with Randy Moss



Last edited 4/10/2013 10:43 AM by Marx8385

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Posted: 4/10/2013 12:38 PM

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He did a good job a saving his stat lines despite losing by throwing dump off passes and avoiding the deep ball at all costs...after Randy Moss.
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