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Jake no longer long shot.....

Posted: 2/21/2013 8:25 PM

Jake no longer long shot..... 


I just read Ireland's presser and it seems Miami is really trying to get a contract done with long. Ireland also said he's not opposed to tagging him either
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Posted: 2/21/2013 8:47 PM

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Unless he signs fos a hometown discount this would be a huge mistake.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 10:47 PM

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Well makes sense i really don't feel all warm and fuzzy about Jonathan Martin protecting Tannehill's blindside considering he performed so poorly on the right side. Franchise LT's are something teams usually keep a hold of and hopefully long signs for 10 million or less a season considering his down years and injury history.
  
He is considered to be the top Left Tackle on the Market and if he can stay healthy for a season or two maybe he can actually reclaim himself being a top LT in the NFL.
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Posted: 2/22/2013 12:14 AM

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I came away not knowing who they were thinking of tagging, my mind went right to Shawn Smith heard other speculate it was Starks then Long.. I don't think anyone knows except Ireland and the staff. Maybe it's a negotiating tactic.

This is exactly what he said: "In terms of this year, there is certainly a likelihood that we could use it, but on particular who we haven’t made that decision yet.”

OmarKelly -  On NFL Network Scott Pioli pointed out "this is a buyers market for offensive tackle." With good draft prospects everyone sign at a discount

Last edited 2/22/2013 12:36 AM by dougb123

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Posted: 2/22/2013 7:40 AM

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Doug, I came way from the presser with your viewpoint. By what I have read and heard, Long is short in Miami.
dougb123 wrote: I came away not knowing who they were thinking of tagging, my mind went right to Shawn Smith heard other speculate it was Starks then Long.. I don't think anyone knows except Ireland and the staff. Maybe it's a negotiating tactic.

This is exactly what he said: "In terms of this year, there is certainly a likelihood that we could use it, but on particular who we haven’t made that decision yet.”

OmarKelly -  On NFL Network Scott Pioli pointed out "this is a buyers market for offensive tackle." With good draft prospects everyone sign at a discount

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Posted: 2/23/2013 9:12 AM

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I feel a little better about where the Dolphins and Long are after reading this article... Still up in the air..

www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/mi...0,6016475.story
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Posted: 3/1/2013 8:22 PM

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With clady getting the tag tonight I really believe we will come to an agreement with long. I know a lot of us been down on long but I truly believe this beast of man will be back to all pro form and help the development of rth
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Posted: 3/1/2013 10:59 PM

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Long will get to test FA and if he finds a team willing to give him 10 yr or close to it he's gone... I believe the Dolphins are looking at 7 to 7.5 for Long and may not be willing to go higher. I did find this in my travels..

21. Left tackle Jake Long -- This year's free-agent tackle class is incredibly deep, and there are three top-ten left tackle picks in the draft. The result is a buyer's market, where veterans perhaps past their primes like Long will receive disappointing offers. Expect Long's price tag to drop after waiting a day or three in free agency, and the Dolphins to re-sign him at a club-friendly rate.

Free Agent Forecast: Dolphins on a five-year, $37.5 million contract

www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl...y-forecast?pg=2
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Posted: 3/1/2013 11:33 PM

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well I sure hope ole Ireland doesnt overspend our cap on Jake Long and we end up signing those two worthless wrs in Hartline and Bess .
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Posted: 3/2/2013 1:12 AM

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Rosco50 wrote: well I sure hope ole Ireland doesnt overspend our cap on Jake Long and we end up signing those two worthless wrs in Hartline and Bess .
Bess is still under contract if im not mistaken and is a terrific slot reciever IMO he has a sure set of hands.. Yes he may not have scored many TD's but how often did you see Tannehill target Bess in the redzone?

I honestly wouldn't mind moving on from jake long and going for Brandon Albert, Phil Loadolt, Andre Smith as cheaper options to jake long.. IF we are going to pay any OT 10 million I would say it should be sebastian Vollmer who has been the most dominant LT in the AFC East the last 2 years.
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Posted: 3/2/2013 1:49 AM

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If we don't sign Long for 7 and he go's else where were getting 1 in the draft with pick 12 or 42 IMO.. I hope we sign Long for 7 or so and use our picks on something else...
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Posted: 3/2/2013 10:08 AM

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The Smith guy from Cinci (I think a RT) wants 9 mil a year. He has only played for 4 years. May be a good move and keep Martin at LT.

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Posted: 3/2/2013 11:29 AM

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That's my point Andre smith has been very good but not elite like long has been and he still is looking for 9 mill a year. The guy is only 28 and should be back to form. All players have injuries and down years. Even the greatest an of all time Danny boy had injuries and down years.
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Posted: 3/2/2013 12:26 PM

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He can look doubt anyone is biting, it's a buyers market at LT. You have to be firm in your evaluation process it's telling you Jake is worth 7 million than he's worth 7 million, maybe there already giving him the benefit of doubt with the 7mill. No one no's Longs medical history like the Dolphins.
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Posted: 3/2/2013 3:57 PM

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Give Jake 11 per year. He is worth it. We have plenty of cash and no one will beat that offer.
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Posted: 3/3/2013 10:39 AM

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profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/...bout-jake-long/

This may good for the fins!!!!!!

Last edited 3/3/2013 10:43 AM by Bigjoe13

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Posted: 3/3/2013 12:23 PM

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Peter King is saying Long is getting a lot of attention, GM are telling him if Long wants 10 mil he may get it in a shorter term contract like 2yrs. I hope that doesn't interest him, but it's hard seeing it not interest him. Guess the only thing the Dolphins could offer is guaranteed money in a longer term contract that favors the Dolphins, I must say it's not looking good....
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Posted: 3/3/2013 12:59 PM

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When I watched Jake last year..healthy..I saw a big, powerful, slow guy who isn't confident in his ability to keep defenders from beating him outside. He jumps to the outside so fast that he almost gives the defender the inside, and maybe that's by design but the fact that he still get beat outside with such a head start is bad and if your a safety or db he gives the pass plays away the way he instantly jumps into pass protection. Maybe I am wrong about all this but its what I take away from him and what I saw. I don't even think he is a great LT anymore and I wouldn't resign him period.
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Posted: 3/3/2013 1:29 PM

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Just let him go. I would not give him more than 7.5 and with the tax situation that should be equal or better than a lot of offers he gets out there. If someone is foolish enough to give him 10 mil. then thank's and good luck.
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Posted: 3/3/2013 3:16 PM

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Just read he's looking for 11 mil while we are offering 7 mill
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