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Draft player's Dolphins should look at

Posted: 2/20/2013 2:06 PM

Draft player's Dolphins should look at 


Brandon Jenkins, DE/OLB, Florida State 
Height: 6-3. Weight: 260.
Projected 40 Time: 4.67.
Projected Round (2013): 2-4. 
2/1/13: Jenkins went out for the year with a broken foot in the first week of the season. He would have been better off taking a medical redshirt and returning for his senior season, but he has decided to enter the 2013 NFL Draft instead. Jenkins is more likely to have a big freefall than crack the first round. He had one sack and three tackles against Murray State before the injury. 

8/27/12: Jenkins had a breakout season in 2010. A first-year starter at right end, he led Florida State in sacks while the Seminoles led the nation in sacks. Jenkins notched 13.5 sacks with 21.5 tackles for a loss. He had five multi-sack games and was voted the team's MVP.

Jenkins started his junior season slowly. He drew extra blocking coming off his stellar 2010 season, but that helped defensive end Bjoern Werner have a breakout year. Jenkins didn't play well against Oklahoma, but he bounced back against Clemson with a sack and a number of pressures on quarterback Tajh Boyd.

Jenkins finished last year with 41 tackles, 12 tackles for a loss and eight sacks. He played better down the stretch as he adjusted to the double-teams and also drew more one-on-one blocking. Jenkins's strength is his pass rushing. He hasn't been a real standout as a run defender.

Jenkins is a speed edge-rusher coming around the corner. He has a nice repertoire of moves to throw at offensive tackles. Jenkins is an excellent athlete who could fit well in a NFL 3-4 defense as an edge rusher. The biggest negative about the senior is that he could be more physical at times.

Jenkins' athletic ability is enough of a mismatch for him to record at least seven sacks this year, and he probably will approach double-digit sacks if not record 10+. That would give him a total of 30 sacks over three seasons, and that kind of production usually spells first-round pick.

Strength: Possesses a long, lanky build with room for additional muscle gain. Has an explosive first step off the snap, which quickly can put the offensive tackle on his heels and in recovery mode. Closes quickly and can provide an explosive pop due to the momentum he gains.

Good flexibility to dip under the reach of the tackle. Creates good torque around the edge, demonstrating rare speed and closing ability. Possesses rare straight-line speed and the ability to scrape the line of scrimmage, chasing ball-carriers from behind. 

Almost exclusively used as a pass rusher, though he was occasionally asked to drop into coverage on zone blitz packages. Appears to have enough lateral agility and flexibility to handle this transition, if necessary. Possesses long arms and at least moderate upper body strength for the drag-down tackle.

Weaknesses: Questionable instincts as a linebacker convert.  Moderate recognition of misdirection plays such as screens and draws. Relies on his quickness to zip past the offensive tackle and beat backs to the edge against wide running plays.

Simply lacks the bulk and strength to hold up against the run at this time. Plays with at least adequate leverage, but is easily moved off the ball. Was often run directly towards in power running plays as offenses took advantage of his lack of size.

Is not a naturally explosive hitter and doesn't use his hands well enough, at this time. Forced just two fumbles and deflected just four passes in 40 career games. Does a nice job of slapping away the offensive tackle's initial punch, but hasn't yet shown a consistent swim or rip move. Possesses undeniable upside in this area, but is currently a bit of a one-trick speed rusher.

Compares To -- Robert Mathis, DE/OLB, Indianapolis Colts -- Like the Colts' pass-rusher, Jenkins' greatest asset is his speed off the edge. To be his most effective, he'll likely need a second pass rusher to complement him but could prove quite effective, especially for a team protecting a lead.

He' a 3rd or 4th round pick who posted great numbers as a freshman but got double teamed a lot as a sophomore and was hurt in his junior year. Looks to me like he could develop into a serious pass rusher given time.... 



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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:32 PM

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There are actually some great prospects at 4-3 DE in the later Rounds and we are lucky because 3-4 is still the most prevalent Defense in the NFL.. So some of these guys will be marked off by teams that run that scheme..

A guy like Alex Okafor or Datone Jones would be an excellent pick in round 2 for us even though they have 1st round talent but figure size wise not to fit in with most teams defenses and i would be perfectly ecstatic with either.

Later rounds..
1.Tank Carradine
2.Brandon Jenkins
3.William Gholston
4.Devin Taylor
5.Marques Hunt
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Posted: 2/20/2013 3:16 PM

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Gonzorot wrote: There are actually some great prospects at 4-3 DE in the later Rounds and we are lucky because 3-4 is still the most prevalent Defense in the NFL.. So some of these guys will be marked off by teams that run that scheme..

A guy like Alex Okafor or Datone Jones would be an excellent pick in round 2 for us even though they have 1st round talent but figure size wise not to fit in with most teams defenses and i would be perfectly ecstatic with either.

Later rounds..
1.Tank Carradine
2.Brandon Jenkins
3.William Gholston
4.Devin Taylor
5.Marques Hunt
With Vernon and Shelby developing, this would make a lot of sense for us.  A corner or Oline in round 1 is very possible.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 4:05 PM

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I think our 2nd biggest need is a starting cornerback after receiver, 3rd would be offensive guard if there moving Jerry to RT and Martin to LT

2nd round CB pick 2a to me this is a must have, only pick I see changing there minds is TE Eifert if he's there, then I believe were in a trade up situation with pick 2b to get 1 of the CB who is starter capable. Smith leaves there not leaving Marshall as the lone starter even if they get a good starter out of FA Marshall has been unreliable to Miami...this is as low as you can go and find a starter at CB IMO
Millner and Banks if he runs good at combine will be gone and maybe one of the guys below to Rhodes I would think...

1. Xavier Rhodes - because of his size
2. Desmond Trufant - been hearing really good things about him
3. Logan Ryan -

I think there are various things they could do to the o-line in FA its going to be interesting to see...Go after Brandon Moore the Jet and or Andy Levitre the Bill making us stronger them weaker.....If Long leaves and they do make jerry RT and Martin LT and they don't get a FA they will need to get a guard in the that's capable of starting

1. Dallas Thomas
2. Barrett Jones
3.Larry Warford maybe to heavy but still possible


Reason I think they won't go early on DE is they have Olivier Vernon - If Starks leaves they move Odrick to tackle and Vernon to DE

Tank Carradine - suffered a torn ligament in his knee and most likely will be out all of 2013 he would be another guy to get in the 7th and put on IR for 2014

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Posted: 2/20/2013 4:51 PM

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Saw a little piece on the DE from BYU. Lordy lordy lordy. Freakishly athletic. Raw, wanted to play basketball. I can't say I would heartbroken if this Phins grabbed him at #12 if he lasts that long
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Posted: 2/20/2013 5:11 PM

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Dee Millner in the 1st round and let Sean Smith walk.

Go Dolphins!
Roll Tide Roll!

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Posted: 2/20/2013 5:27 PM

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caw1313 wrote: Dee Millner in the 1st round and let Sean Smith walk.
+1, if he falls. How bout Wallace, Milliner and Eifert for starters in FA and draft.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 6:33 PM

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Milner wont fall to us. If we get Wallace i would like to see Keenan Allen then Eifert if possible. Wallace is a great deep threat but imo isnt a go to clutch receiver on 3rd and 5 from inside the redzone. Allen is ready to step in and be our #2 option imo. He may not have crazy upside but he is a solid all around wr and Allen, Wallace, Bess on the field on 3rd down would make anything possible and tough to defend.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 7:42 PM

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Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, Connecticut
Height: 6-0. Weight: 192. Arm: 32 1/2. Arm: 8 3/4.
Projected 40 Time: 4.57.
Projected Round (2013): 2-4.
1/31/13: The big Huskies corner had a solid week at the Senior Bowl. However, he looks best for a zone system in the NFL. Wreh-Wilson had 46 tackles with one interception and nine passes broken up as a senior. He had 37 tackles with seven passes batted and two interceptions in 2011. His best production came as a sophomore when he totaled four interceptions with 57 tackles and five passes broken up.

www.thephinsider.com/2013/2/18...idi-wreh-wilson

Strengths: Size, speed and elite-level technique; effective jam at the line of scrimmage; fluid, instinctive defender; reads the game well and displays a natural, athletic feel for the corner position; smooth and balanced out of breaks

Weaknesses: Not a big hitter; hands don't always look natural; will occasionally take incorrect angles in run support

Some conflicting views on exactly how good a man cover guy he is but would be a decent prospect as a #2 CB if we were to invest in 2 this draft. Pick 3rd or 4th round guy
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Posted: 2/20/2013 7:50 PM

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Tyrann Mathieu*, CB/S, LSU
Height: 5-9. Weight: 175.
Projected 40 Time: 4.42.
Projected Round (2013): 4-6.
1/31/13: As expected, Mathieu went ahead and declared for the 2013 NFL Draft. LSU kicked him off the team late last summer, and he decided to check into a rehab facility for substance-abuse issues rather than transferring down a level to play this season. The off-the-field issues continued for Mathieu with a drug arrest alongside some former teammates in October.

The honey badger was one of the best defensive players in college football during the 2011 season. He was a finalist for the Heisman Trophy and had a massive impact for the Tigers. Mathieu plays much bigger than his measurements, and anyone who watched LSU the over the 2010 and 2011 seasons can't help but see that he is a pure football player with off-the-charts instinct.

Mathieu led the Tigers in tackles in 2011 with 76. The sophomore also had 7.5 tackles for a loss, 1.5 sacks, six forced fumbles, two interceptions and nine passes broken up. LSU lined him up as an outside corner, slot corner and safety. He was very dangerous in the slot. Additionally, Mathieu served as a punt returner in 2011, averaging 16 yards per return with two brought back for touchdowns.

The 5-foot-9, 175-pounder was a dynamic play-maker for the Tigers since Day 1. As a freshman, Mathieu compiled 57 tackles with 8.5 tackles for a loss, 4.5 sacks, five forced fumbles, two interceptions, seven passes broken up and two interceptions.

Don't know why they have him ranked so low, he could be a great slot cover guy and in a pinch could cover a much bigger receiver.. I personally think he has bottom 1st early 2nd round talent. If you could get this kid in the 5th it would be the steal of the draft, that's if he learned his lesson and was committed to flying it straight, most all kids screw up 19-22 most don't get caught....
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Posted: 2/20/2013 8:12 PM

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Jonathan Cyprien, S, Florida International
Height: 6-0. Weight: 209. Arm: 30 1/2. Hand: 10 1/8.
Projected 40 Time: 4.60.
Projected Round (2013): 3-4.
1/31/13: Cyprien is one of those small-school players who really helped himself at the Senior Bowl. He made his presence felt all week. Cyprien was a tough defender who was hitting hard in the ground game. He also really impressed with his pass coverage by demonstrating the ability to run with receivers and cover tight ends. The passing-driven NFL is looking for safeties with that skill set.

The senior led his team with 93 tackles in 2012. He also contributed four interceptions, five passes broken up and one forced fumble. There is a lot to like about Cyprien, and it looks like he has improved his draft stock from the late rounds to the mid-rounds.

Strengths: Well-built defender who certainly looks the part of an NFL safety. Aggressive playing style and active demeanor. Took advantage of the Senior Bowl opportunity, standing out with his full-speed effort from the first practice. Enjoys the physical nature of the position. Meets the ballcarrier with a pop and refuses to let up.

Good ball skills. Shows the ability to extend and snatch the ball out of the air. Has consistently played well against so-called "top" competition over his career, enjoying standout performances in past years against the likes of Texas A&M, Rutgers, Maryland and Louisville, among others.



Weaknesses: Some have concerns about Cyprien's straight-line speed. Played a lot of two-deep coverage at FIU, showing the ability to play halves but not necessarily operate as a true centerfielder. Takes highly aggressive angles to the ball and consistently tackles ballcarriers high, two potential areas of concern considering the significant jump in competition he'll be making. There may be some initial struggles.


Compares To: Morgan Burnett, SS, Green Bay Packers -- Surrounded by big names in the Packers' secondary, Burnett is quietly emerging as one of the league's better young safeties. He was targeted early by opponents as a rookie before going down with a torn ACL. Hopefully Cyprien won't have to deal with an injury, but he could struggle through similar growing pains. Once acclimated to the speed of the NFL, however, he also could rise quickly.


Interesting safety prospect who's stock has risen, If he runs well at the combine 4.4 - 4.5 (3 round pick) Hometown kid, could be a steal
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Posted: 2/21/2013 9:19 AM

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Dee Milliner, considered the best CB prospect in the coming draft has a torn labrum that will require surgery after the combine. The Alabama product will still work at the combine but will not participate in the Alabama Pro Day.

Read more here: miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphi...l#storylink=cpy

He just went from a single digit to a double digit - draft stock

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Posted: 2/21/2013 10:24 AM

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dougb123 wrote: Dee Milliner, considered the best CB prospect in the coming draft has a torn labrum that will require surgery after the combine. The Alabama product will still work at the combine but will not participate in the Alabama Pro Day.

Read more here: miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphi...l#storylink=cpy

He just went from a single digit to a double digit - draft stock

Milliner scares me ALOT. Nick Saban is considered one of the best secondary coaches in college and the pro's. Its being thrown out there, after 4-5 years of alabama CB and safety prospects, that their college performance has more to do with his coaching than their ability.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 11:05 AM

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I think if your picking 5th or 6th and Milliner was your target, your finding a new target. Missing all the mini camps and maybe part of training camp is not ideal for a high 1st round pick.... I think pro day also cements allot of these guys minds your the right pick, that really could hurt he could take a big tumble down the board. I almost think he would be better off having a pro day than the combine..
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Posted: 2/21/2013 11:38 AM

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Le'Veon Bell*, RB, Michigan State
Height: 6-2. Weight: 238.
Projected 40 Time: 4.63.
Projected Round (2013): 2-4.
2/16/13: Bell carried Michigan State's offense in 2012. He averaged 29 carries (382 total) per game as the Spartans struggled to move the ball aside from handing it off to him.

Bell averaged 4.7 yards per carry despite all the action and ran for 1,793 yards and 12 touchdowns in 2012. He also had 32 receptions for 167 yards. Bell went over 200 yards against Boise State, Eastern Michigan and Minnesota.

The concern with Bell is if he has enough quickness to hit the hole in the NFL. The Big Ten has produced a lot of Ron Dayne-types who are big backs but not fast enough to play at the next level. Bell needs to prove that he has enough speed.

It was a good move for the junior to enter the 2013 NFL Draft rather than let Michigan State's coaching staff run him into the ground as a senior. He has demonstrated plenty of durability already.

8/16/12: Bell is a massive back who could move to fullback in the NFL. He outperformed Edwin Baker and became the lead back for the Spartans in 2011. Bell ran for 948 yards and 13 touchdowns. He also caught 35 passes for 267 yards.

The Spartans like to run the ball and are breaking in a new quarterback, so Bell should get plenty of carries in 2012. He ran for 605 yards and eight touchdowns as a freshman.

Strengths: Strong-build and well proportioned with thick hips. Very good balance and stays low to the ground through contact. More of a downhill athlete who picks up speed as he goes. Stays light on his feet and has some deception to his game, slipping through cracks at the line of scrimmage.

Tough runner to bring down cleanly, often carrying defenders. Good forward lean and pop to deliver blows at the point of attack. Not afraid to leave his feet to leap over defenders. Active receiver with good awareness in pass pro to pick up blitzes. Led Big Ten in rushing in 2012 (1,793 yards) with three 200-yard performances.


Weaknesses: Not overly powerful despite his size and lacks breakaway speed to leave defenders in the dust. Smooth acceleration but not a burner and shows little burst in his cuts.


Lacks speed on stretch plays and won't be able to make a living in the NFL going east/west as much as he did in college. Too hesitant and patient at times and gets himself in trouble when he stops his feet, taking time to survey the field and figure it his next move. Wears down late in games and at times looks to have checked out.


Needs technique work in pass protection, leaving his feet too often and struggling to square his shoulders and gain proper positioning. Hands are normally reliable but will struggle on passes away from his frame. Has a lot of touches on his resume. Some rumblings that he is a "me-first" player.


I know we already have enough running backs but if this guy fell to us in the 5th I think he might be worth a try. Hope faster than they think and hits the hole quicker and could be an effective 3 and 1 guy or if Tannehill having a rough day he could come in and provide some extra support. Check out the photo of him he's the 2nd picture down it's badass...

www.thephinsider.com/2013/2/16...h-big-potential
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Posted: 2/21/2013 11:38 AM

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I do not want the Dolphins to draft players at skill positions (WR, CB, Safety) who run 4.6 40's.  I don't care if they look like ballers.  The team is still lacking in speed and playmaking ability.  Bringing in players who are slow does not help the cause.

"Make it Rain Hell"

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Posted: 2/21/2013 12:37 PM

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dougb123 wrote: Tyrann Mathieu*, CB/S, LSU
Height: 5-9. Weight: 175.
Projected 40 Time: 4.42.
Projected Round (2013): 4-6.
1/31/13: As expected, Mathieu went ahead and declared for the 2013 NFL Draft. LSU kicked him off the team late last summer, and he decided to check into a rehab facility for substance-abuse issues rather than transferring down a level to play this season. The off-the-field issues continued for Mathieu with a drug arrest alongside some former teammates in October.

The honey badger was one of the best defensive players in college football during the 2011 season. He was a finalist for the Heisman Trophy and had a massive impact for the Tigers. Mathieu plays much bigger than his measurements, and anyone who watched LSU the over the 2010 and 2011 seasons can't help but see that he is a pure football player with off-the-charts instinct.

Mathieu led the Tigers in tackles in 2011 with 76. The sophomore also had 7.5 tackles for a loss, 1.5 sacks, six forced fumbles, two interceptions and nine passes broken up. LSU lined him up as an outside corner, slot corner and safety. He was very dangerous in the slot. Additionally, Mathieu served as a punt returner in 2011, averaging 16 yards per return with two brought back for touchdowns.

The 5-foot-9, 175-pounder was a dynamic play-maker for the Tigers since Day 1. As a freshman, Mathieu compiled 57 tackles with 8.5 tackles for a loss, 4.5 sacks, five forced fumbles, two interceptions, seven passes broken up and two interceptions.

Don't know why they have him ranked so low, he could be a great slot cover guy and in a pinch could cover a much bigger receiver.. I personally think he has bottom 1st early 2nd round talent. If you could get this kid in the 5th it would be the steal of the draft, that's if he learned his lesson and was committed to flying it straight, most all kids screw up 19-22 most don't get caught....
HECK NO!!!!!! the guy will be a cancer in the locker room!!!!! He's a thug!!!

Go Dolphins!
Roll Tide Roll!

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Posted: 2/21/2013 12:58 PM

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dougb123 wrote: Tyrann Mathieu*, CB/S, LSU
Height: 5-9. Weight: 175.
Projected 40 Time: 4.42.
Projected Round (2013): 4-6.
1/31/13: As expected, Mathieu went ahead and declared for the 2013 NFL Draft. LSU kicked him off the team late last summer, and he decided to check into a rehab facility for substance-abuse issues rather than transferring down a level to play this season. The off-the-field issues continued for Mathieu with a drug arrest alongside some former teammates in October.

The honey badger was one of the best defensive players in college football during the 2011 season. He was a finalist for the Heisman Trophy and had a massive impact for the Tigers. Mathieu plays much bigger than his measurements, and anyone who watched LSU the over the 2010 and 2011 seasons can't help but see that he is a pure football player with off-the-charts instinct.

Mathieu led the Tigers in tackles in 2011 with 76. The sophomore also had 7.5 tackles for a loss, 1.5 sacks, six forced fumbles, two interceptions and nine passes broken up. LSU lined him up as an outside corner, slot corner and safety. He was very dangerous in the slot. Additionally, Mathieu served as a punt returner in 2011, averaging 16 yards per return with two brought back for touchdowns.

The 5-foot-9, 175-pounder was a dynamic play-maker for the Tigers since Day 1. As a freshman, Mathieu compiled 57 tackles with 8.5 tackles for a loss, 4.5 sacks, five forced fumbles, two interceptions, seven passes broken up and two interceptions.

Don't know why they have him ranked so low, he could be a great slot cover guy and in a pinch could cover a much bigger receiver.. I personally think he has bottom 1st early 2nd round talent. If you could get this kid in the 5th it would be the steal of the draft, that's if he learned his lesson and was committed to flying it straight, most all kids screw up 19-22 most don't get caught....
HECK NO!!!!!! the guy will be a cancer in the locker room!!!!!

Go Dolphins!
Roll Tide Roll!

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Posted: 2/21/2013 4:00 PM

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caw1313 wrote:
dougb123 wrote: Tyrann Mathieu*, CB/S, LSU
Height: 5-9. Weight: 175.
Projected 40 Time: 4.42.
Projected Round (2013): 4-6.
1/31/13: As expected, Mathieu went ahead and declared for the 2013 NFL Draft. LSU kicked him off the team late last summer, and he decided to check into a rehab facility for substance-abuse issues rather than transferring down a level to play this season. The off-the-field issues continued for Mathieu with a drug arrest alongside some former teammates in October.

The honey badger was one of the best defensive players in college football during the 2011 season. He was a finalist for the Heisman Trophy and had a massive impact for the Tigers. Mathieu plays much bigger than his measurements, and anyone who watched LSU the over the 2010 and 2011 seasons can't help but see that he is a pure football player with off-the-charts instinct.

Mathieu led the Tigers in tackles in 2011 with 76. The sophomore also had 7.5 tackles for a loss, 1.5 sacks, six forced fumbles, two interceptions and nine passes broken up. LSU lined him up as an outside corner, slot corner and safety. He was very dangerous in the slot. Additionally, Mathieu served as a punt returner in 2011, averaging 16 yards per return with two brought back for touchdowns.

The 5-foot-9, 175-pounder was a dynamic play-maker for the Tigers since Day 1. As a freshman, Mathieu compiled 57 tackles with 8.5 tackles for a loss, 4.5 sacks, five forced fumbles, two interceptions, seven passes broken up and two interceptions.

Don't know why they have him ranked so low, he could be a great slot cover guy and in a pinch could cover a much bigger receiver.. I personally think he has bottom 1st early 2nd round talent. If you could get this kid in the 5th it would be the steal of the draft, that's if he learned his lesson and was committed to flying it straight, most all kids screw up 19-22 most don't get caught....
HECK NO!!!!!! the guy will be a cancer in the locker room!!!!!
You know who else was a thug? Marvin Harrison. Ask Peyton if he would have preferred to not have him on his team.

I know thats a little different but I just got done reading about Marvin Harrison and came here to see this and had to chime in.
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Posted: 2/21/2013 6:47 PM

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Tyrann Mathieu is a baller and worth a shot in the 5th, It's a guy who could start and looks better than anything we got now and he's only 5'9 - have the guy for 4 years before he has a chance to make some good money sound smart to me.

Jonathan Cyprien is the 3rd ranked safety on some boards, he does need to post decent 40 but he still looks much better than Chris Clemons as is, that's not to say I don't want Clemons back. If he looks like he's a serious cover for the elite TE in the NFL that's what I want.

Blidi Wreh-Wilson wouldn't be the 1st CB I would take but he could be an upgrade over Nolan Carroll and compete with Richard Marshall and Dimitri Patterson so we would have to hand big money to so-so corners

Those times are only projected and don't really reflect much now. Brandon Marshall ran 4.52 40 and he's decent receiver in the NFL, I know the Dolphins want to get faster but speed is only one aspect and when your pick in the late 3rd 4th 5th 6th round sometimes your not getting the speed you want, some of these guys still can be very effective players.

Don't like some of the late round guys I post on, find someone better.... That is the point of the post.
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