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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:21 PM

Report: mike wallace is top target 


Report: Mike Wallace is the Dolphins top target

Posted by Mike Florio on February 20, 2013, 7:25 AM EST
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With the Steelers not planning to use the franchise tag on receiver Mike Wallace or any other player, Wallace will go to the highest bidder.

With the Steelers not inclined or able to be the highest bidder for any player, Wallace will go somewhere other than Pittsburgh.

Omar Kelly of the South Florida Sun-Sentinelreports something that has been obvious to us for weeks:  Wallace will be the top free-agent target for the Dolphins.

Wallace perfectly fits Miami’s needs, both from a football and a business standpoint.  As to the former (and as we’ve been saying), a field-stretching receiver (something Greg Jennings isn’t) opens up the rest of the offense for everyone else.  By drawing attention deep, the slot receiver and the tight ends can find plenty of room to operate, and quarterback Ryan Tannehill will have an even better opportunity to develop.

As to the latter, landing a player like Wallace can generate excitement in the fan base, take attention away from that basketball team in Miami (if only for a day), and maybe help sell some tickets and jerseys and hats and other stuff bearing the soon-to-be-unveiled new logo.

Of course, Wallace and his agent will know that, allowing them to apply a thumb or two (or other appendages) to the scale.  Dolphins owner Stephen Ross may not care.  He has both the cash and the cap space to overpay Wallace, and after failing in high-profile fashion to land guys like Jim Harbaugh in 2011 and both Jeff Fisher and Peyton Manning last year, we’ve got a feeling Ross will be ready to hand Wallace a blank check.

That said, there’s a chance that, yet again, Ross will end up providing the leverage for the deal that the target gets done elsewhere.

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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:26 PM

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Good. He is younger, faster and can grow with Tannehill. But that is if we don't blow it.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:49 PM

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this is the WR i want.

Greg has had 2 pretty sad seasons latley.

Still like dwayne bowe... but just not fast

no jermichel either cuz hes had like 3 awful seasons... he is cousins with javorski lane tho

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Posted: 2/20/2013 1:57 PM

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I like Wallace also, but he is a bit of a diva!

Go Dolphins!
Roll Tide Roll!

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Posted: 2/20/2013 2:34 PM

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I have to say im not a fan of Free Agent WR's it would be nice to go draft our own star one of these days.

Mike Wallace would fit well into being our deep threat, although reports of drops and lazy route running and effort last year are making me nervous. There is no question this guy has no problem getting open deep though.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 3:12 PM

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I hope they go all out for Wallace, we could then target Keenan Allen at 12 or a WR in round 2 if the front office goes Warmack or Milliner in round 1.
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Posted: 2/20/2013 4:27 PM

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Gonzorot wrote: I have to say im not a fan of Free Agent WR's it would be nice to go draft our own star one of these days.

Mike Wallace would fit well into being our deep threat, although reports of drops and lazy route running and effort last year are making me nervous. There is no question this guy has no problem getting open deep though.

I agree
Also, the title of the article leads one to believe that this was some sort of investigative journalism when in fact its one guys opinion. Wallace might not even be on the Phins radar
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Posted: 2/20/2013 5:07 PM

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I think this would be a great move . I know we keep hearing how this kid is a diva and Pitt doesn't want him. Remember Pitt did offer him 55 mill last year and he declined it. So Pitt wants him but at there price. As far as him having a down year the guy still had 64 rec for like 850 + yds and 8 tds. Not bad for a down year. Also remember Big Ben was hurt this year and leftwich along with batch were throwing him passes for a 1/4 of the year. Bottom line is numbers don't lie. Young 27. Fast 4.33 and 17.2 yds catch career . Also 8 tds was his lowest total in a year. I remember when Pitt let another stud wr walk via free agency because they didn't pony up the cash. Plax left to ny and helped lead the giants to a sb . More importantly he helped the manning develope tremendously. There were on there way to repeat until the idiot shot himself.anyway I say yes to this young playmaker let him rth,hartline , and miller be our young core and the future of this franchise
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Posted: 2/20/2013 9:24 PM

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Wallace is a guy who cares more about the money than the team. Maybe thats a lot of players and it isnt a big deal. He is a one trick pony. He is either a home run threat or drops tons of balls. Not a good route runner despite what Polian says.

I agree though, if youre looking for a player to stretch the field, Wallace can do that.

Personally for me, I think pure possession receivers are by far the better way to go. Just depends though on what the Dolphins want from their offense and it looks like they want a burner.

Last edited 2/20/2013 9:25 PM by supercolts99

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Posted: 2/21/2013 11:52 AM

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supercolts99 wrote: Wallace is a guy who cares more about the money than the team. Maybe thats a lot of players and it isnt a big deal. He is a one trick pony. He is either a home run threat or drops tons of balls. Not a good route runner despite what Polian says.

I agree though, if youre looking for a player to stretch the field, Wallace can do that.

Personally for me, I think pure possession receivers are by far the better way to go. Just depends though on what the Dolphins want from their offense and it looks like they want a burner.
Our team was filled with 'pure possession receivers' last year.  Didn't work out very well.  If your colts didn't have Hilton and Brazil stretching the field your underneath guys wouldn't do squat.  Reggie Wayne can still go deep as well so your own team doesn't have a WR corps full of 'possession' receivers.

Wallace is a gamble.  He has the speed and playmaking ability, but is he a product of his QB and the system?  Coming to Miami, will he be a pain in the butt of the coaching staff?  He's playing for one of the most respected coaches in the league under Mike Tomlin and sits in a locker room with all sorts of veteran leadership to control his behavior.  We don't have that here.  Of course, if you play it safe and NEVER gamble you remain mediocre which is what Miami is right now. 

I also don't want to spend stupid money on the guy.  He hasn't proven to be a #1 WR in the same mould as an Andre Johnson or Calvin Megatron.  He's more in the Jeremy Maclin tier right now.  He is young, he is super fast, he is uber talented.  My ideal would be to get Dwayne Bowe who isn't as fast or young as Wallace but who is still a field stretcher and is bigger and way more physical a receiver, re-sign Hartline for stability, draft a young WR within the first 3 picks (Patterson, K allen, D Rogers come to mind), and sign one of either Fred Davis, J Finley, or Cook as a field stretching TE in FA.  I'm not high on Jennings only because of his injury issues and his lack of top end speed.

That way you have shored up your WR corps with a young veteran, a current guy who has chemistry with your QB, a rookie with speed, and a TE who can stretch the seam.  I'd also like to see Rishard Matthews be given a bigger role as I think he may be a diamond in the rough.  He started making some nice plays in the final part of the season and he has speed and size.  If the team can do this on the offensive side of the ball in FA, then you now have flexibility to draft on D to fill gaps at CB, DE, OLB and potentially MLB.

"Make it Rain Hell"

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Posted: 2/21/2013 5:35 PM

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I can see why they want Wallace to give them a valid deep threat and to back the safety's up so there's room underneath for other receivers backs and TE's to work. It's always nice to have that quick strike capability to, I imagine it's unnerving to the defense. Wallace in theory should help the running game...

I just hope if we do give Wallace big money he is worth it in the end... I have my doubts. Jennings is the receiver I wanted but it's probably the 26 yr old Jennings that stuck in my mind and not the 29/30 year old looking to cash in at last...
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Posted: 2/25/2013 1:18 PM

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dougb123 wrote: I can see why they want Wallace to give them a valid deep threat and to back the safety's up so there's room underneath for other receivers backs and TE's to work. It's always nice to have that quick strike capability to, I imagine it's unnerving to the defense. Wallace in theory should help the running game...

I just hope if we do give Wallace big money he is worth it in the end... I have my doubts. Jennings is the receiver I wanted but it's probably the 26 yr old Jennings that stuck in my mind and not the 29/30 year old looking to cash in at last...
All Free Agents are a risk.  Few Free Agents are sure things so regardless of whether or not he turns into a bust, the only way the team finds out is to give him the chance to be the #1 guy.  I have my reservations about him as well and would prefer Dwayne Bowe, but I will be happier than a pig in pink panties if Miami signs this kid because he brings an element this team has sorrowly lacked for years.  This guy isn't a Clyde Gates.  He has hands and can get seperation from CB's. 

Even if they do sign Wallace, I expect the team to draft young playmakers on offense as well.  Double up on the QB investment you made last season and keep up with teams that have a vertical passing game.

"Make it Rain Hell"

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Posted: 2/25/2013 1:25 PM

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If Ireland does only one thing in free agency he must get Mike Wallace. 

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Posted: 2/26/2013 9:40 AM

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Yeah, no.

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Posted: 2/26/2013 10:05 AM

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If these guys are so awesome then why are they not signing with their current team?

Calvin Johnson is the best WR, maybe, ever and the Lions won 4 games. The Cardinals won 5 with Larry Fitzgerald. the Ravens won the superbowl with a stable of good to very good WR's but no one great. WR position is sorta like building an OL. Having 5 good or very good players that work well together is better then having 1 diva (Mike Wallace, Santonio Holmes, Terrel Owens, Brandon Marshall) and 3-4 duds.

Resign Hartline and build the WR position thru the draft and bring in one middle tier FA.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 10:21 AM

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I don't disagree with you Tour, but I also think there is something to be said for putting in a guy who can win you a game and make that big play when needed the most.  True, Calvin Johnson can't win games by himself, nor can Larry Fitz and Wallace wouldn't be able to either, BUT considering the supporting cast between Megatron, Fitz and if Wallace came here Wallace would be a big piece but not the only piece.  Thre are a few big needs on this team that need to be addressed including TE and CB so signing Wallace wouldn't be the be all and end all to make Miami a SB contender, but he would definately upgrade the position that is in most dire need of talent infusion. 

 

I still say D Bowe is the best overall WR free agent available because of his route running, speed, size, hands combo but if Miami does sign Wallace i will be a happy man.  I also think that if the do sign one of the big name FA I want to see a 2nd tier FA signed at WR as well and draft a young WR in the first 3 rounds of this draft.  That is my hope for the O this offseason.

"Make it Rain Hell"

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Posted: 2/26/2013 10:52 AM

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I think it's a mistake to go after high priced FAs, unless you think that player is the finishing touch on a team that is going to win the SB.  And our team doesn't fit that bill yet.   We have to continue to build through the draft. 

we have extra picks this year and  a lot of people are saying that there are some good talent in the mid rounds of this year's draft. Let's try to pick a couple of potentially good receivers at much cheaper price and spend the money some where else.  Mike Wallace was a 3rd round draft pick. Who knows, maybe we pick up a receiver like him in the second or third round and save a ton of money.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 10:58 AM

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DantesDolfanInferno wrote:

I don't disagree with you Tour, but I also think there is something to be said for putting in a guy who can win you a game and make that big play when needed the most.  True, Calvin Johnson can't win games by himself, nor can Larry Fitz and Wallace wouldn't be able to either, BUT considering the supporting cast between Megatron, Fitz and if Wallace came here Wallace would be a big piece but not the only piece.  Thre are a few big needs on this team that need to be addressed including TE and CB so signing Wallace wouldn't be the be all and end all to make Miami a SB contender, but he would definately upgrade the position that is in most dire need of talent infusion. 

 

I still say D Bowe is the best overall WR free agent available because of his route running, speed, size, hands combo but if Miami does sign Wallace i will be a happy man.  I also think that if the do sign one of the big name FA I want to see a 2nd tier FA signed at WR as well and draft a young WR in the first 3 rounds of this draft.  That is my hope for the O this offseason.


Let me put it another way. The highest paid player on the team should be the QB, then rush DE then the other DE/DT, then LT. I'm not making an UFA WR with diva like qualities the highest paid player on the team. Miami made that mistake with Brandon Marshall and I hope they learn not to make it again. You pay a guy more then everyone else he is the defacto captain and leader of the team. The Jets, Eagles and Raiders are paying dearly for making this mistake.

Every player should want the ball, but when your a WR making more then the guy throwing it you can now demand the ball, and thats were the cancer starts

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Posted: 2/26/2013 11:40 AM

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TourDeForce wrote:
DantesDolfanInferno wrote:

I don't disagree with you Tour, but I also think there is something to be said for putting in a guy who can win you a game and make that big play when needed the most.  True, Calvin Johnson can't win games by himself, nor can Larry Fitz and Wallace wouldn't be able to either, BUT considering the supporting cast between Megatron, Fitz and if Wallace came here Wallace would be a big piece but not the only piece.  Thre are a few big needs on this team that need to be addressed including TE and CB so signing Wallace wouldn't be the be all and end all to make Miami a SB contender, but he would definately upgrade the position that is in most dire need of talent infusion. 

 

I still say D Bowe is the best overall WR free agent available because of his route running, speed, size, hands combo but if Miami does sign Wallace i will be a happy man.  I also think that if the do sign one of the big name FA I want to see a 2nd tier FA signed at WR as well and draft a young WR in the first 3 rounds of this draft.  That is my hope for the O this offseason.


Let me put it another way. The highest paid player on the team should be the QB, then rush DE then the other DE/DT, then LT. I'm not making an UFA WR with diva like qualities the highest paid player on the team. Miami made that mistake with Brandon Marshall and I hope they learn not to make it again. You pay a guy more then everyone else he is the defacto captain and leader of the team. The Jets, Eagles and Raiders are paying dearly for making this mistake.

Every player should want the ball, but when your a WR making more then the guy throwing it you can now demand the ball, and thats were the cancer starts
I have an issue with this. When Marshall was here he was our best player. Period. How did he not justify his money? I agree the QB should be your highest paid player but when you neglect the position for over a decade then you have our current situation. If we were playing by the old rules then Tannehill would be our first or second highest paid player.

Look what Marshall did with Chicago this yr. If we would have had a better QB I am sure he could have gotten those numbers here.

According to your logic, Long, Solai, Wake and Tannehill would be paid more than Marshall. So a guy like Marshall that brings it every game should make less than Long? Solai?

Look I agree with some of your points. I don't think Wallace is a 12 mil. receiver. But the market is the market and there is no free in free agancy. The reason Pit won't give him the money is that they are a tight fisted organization but they also have a great FO that knows how to fill holes.

We need playmakers. This is Miami. We should be a team that has a fastbreak offense. I would rather give up some on the D to get some high powered O going. Look at a cold weather team like NE. They roll up big numbers in freezing temperatures for Godsakes! We have the weather, the atmosphere, it is time to crank this thing up!

Also you comparing Wide Receivers to their records is not right. This is football not basketball and there are 33 people that have to make it work. Larry Fitzgerald has not had a QB since Warner left, there is not a team in the League who wouldn't give their right arm for Megatron. While QB is the most important position by far you cannot say any position is anymore important than another.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 12:27 PM

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Philbin is going into year 2, realistically how many years do you think the Dolphins owner will give him. He is taking a team that was built for a power running game and trying to turn it into a finesse passing team, it would take more time than he has to build it thru the draft.

Talent dictates pay always has, just because Wallace will make more than Tannehill doesn't automatically make him a leader or the leader. Respect does, the respect of the players around you make you a leader. Implementing the coaches will when things get tuff, that's what make you a leader, and I have no doubt that is going to be Tannehill.

I think Philbin, Sherman and Ireland will all sit down with Wallace and talk and make sure its a good fit before they bring him on..
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