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4th round compensatory pick?

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Posted: 2/13/2013 4:21 PM

4th round compensatory pick? 


Was reading up on projected compensatory picks because i figured losing Langford last year is going to payoff.. This site is projecting us being awarded an extra  4th rounder for this draft, that would be awesome.



http://bloggingthebeast.com/2013/01/27/2013-nfl-co mpensatory-pick-projections/

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Posted: 2/13/2013 4:44 PM

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wow,sweet!
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Posted: 2/13/2013 6:53 PM

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Glad he was the only one Fisher walked away with, he may try for Starks this year. See how fast Fisher gobbled up that problem receiver Titus Young he has the moxie to deal with problem players but his locker room still may not be all that harmonious.
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Posted: 2/13/2013 8:11 PM

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Are you kidding? We may get a 4th for Langford? Awesome. That would be like 7 picks in the top 135? Right?

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Posted: 2/13/2013 9:04 PM

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awesome find,

theres some talent gonna be available in the 4th, what about a sgot @ Lattimore, or some mocks have a Nickell Roby or a Kelce. Be a sweet trade up pick too
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Posted: 2/14/2013 3:57 AM

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I would sign Jermical Finley,Martellus Bennet or Jared Cook with 7 picks in the top 135 off the top of my head my dream draft would be 

1. Cordarelle Patterson WR
2a. Sam Montgomery or Datone Jones DE
2b. David Amerson or Baccari Rambo FS
3a. Logan Ryan  or Leon McfaddenCB
3b.Brennan Willaims RT
4a. Sean Porter LB
4b. Ryan Swope WR

I actually really love our HB position even without reggie bush... I think Miller/Thigpen battling for the number 1 spot with Daniel thomas being our Powerback is scary good.

If Jeff Ireland can do this right I am really excited about this offseason.

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Posted: 2/14/2013 4:18 AM

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mikdo wrote: awesome find,

theres some talent gonna be available in the 4th, what about a sgot @ Lattimore, or some mocks have a Nickell Roby or a Kelce. Be a sweet trade up pick too
With our depth at HB I would consider Tyrann Mathieu in the 4th round before i considered Lattimore at round 4 if your looking for high reward low risk players. I liked lattimore but to be realistic that last knee injury was something awful and im hesitant to think he can contribute anytime soon or to the level he was. Our need at CB also outweighs our need at HB.. If philbin really doesn't believe in thomas,Thigpen, and Miller he will resign bush we have the cap space. I think Thigpen,Miller, and thomas are going to put up a monster battle for the starting job at HB.. All are young and only getting better.

I actually believe Mathieu is trying to turn his life around, He is staying with patrick Peterson's family and has moved away from LSU.. alot of people forget 2 years ago this guy was contending for the heisman at CB which is really hard to do.
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Posted: 2/14/2013 6:39 AM

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Hey, that kid Dennard the Pats picked up in the 7th round last year worked out great for them, he seems to have turned it around.
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Posted: 2/14/2013 9:00 AM

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mikdo wrote: awesome find,

theres some talent gonna be available in the 4th, what about a sgot @ Lattimore, or some mocks have a Nickell Roby or a Kelce. Be a sweet trade up pick too
If we are actually getting a compensatory, I dont think they are tradeable. You have to draft someone. Of course, we could trade the other 4th! Lattimore or Mathieu would be good!

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Posted: 2/14/2013 10:01 PM

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Personally, per this draft im not in favor of a tradeUP
Too many holes, I like the tandem of opening camp with say a:
Miller, Thomas, Thigs & Jonas Gray ( This draft is weak per RB)
My concern though, maybe im wrong< Thomas/Durability & Miller/ speed thru the Off Tackle Inside holes, thigs i see as more of a space back, i think some thought should be spent towards bradshaw, still young, you know he can run inside, probably a 3/15 (5 cap hit)

My ideal draft would be an attempt @ a package trade CD/JL for a 1&2 believe they could get a 1/2 from Balt or PITT with a threat of using franshise tag/ a comp pick for JL may bring a 2 anyway. i realize balt is cap heavy/ Be sweet picking up two extra picks as well @ kicking out CD 8mm cap hit/ then youd have a hell of a draft & a good FA follow thru
Done this way, i think itd be hard to spend cap, youd roll over 10-15mm. With an extra 2nd & 1st/ youd compress even younger

Depending on how 1-11 fall, i may be a Player to trade back to low 20's for an extra 2nd as well. Its looking like Jarvis Jones may slide a little due to back issue, we will most probablt see a slider to 12 though

Theres two TE in this draft, thats it. be lucky to see one @ our 2A, but if either is there, run to the podium, pair themm with JCook IMO, keep clay, give fasano a hug & egnew a bus ticket to missouri

U dont hear much about Darick Rogers, but remember he led the SEC in receiving 2011, aside from his personal issues, ugh, he looks like what i want over the middle as a possession receiver, tough good hands, YAC, on film, i like him better than willams or patterson, pattersons hands scare me, another sleeper quisenberry, i think he can play RT day one, looked good in the one's @ senior bowl, plays all 5. id love to see jarvis jones lined up over sante jones on our right side, also im not sure why chase thomas looks like a 4th on alot of mocks, love his tape

Mathieu, ya but i think hes going in the 3rd, & lots of scouts are pinning him no higher than a slot/corner (size,speed issues) Id love to see him or nickell roby brought in as a slot, quickness/ hawks

B4 u get excited about what could be/ remember whose picking talent/ little confidence here/ cheers
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Posted: 2/15/2013 10:58 AM

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nope. Not getting a 4th for Langford because he was cancelled out by signing Richard Marshall. We might be a pick for Henne and/or Will Allen, but the size of contracts they signed would mean 6th and 7th round picks.
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Posted: 2/15/2013 12:32 PM

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TourDeForce wrote: nope. Not getting a 4th for Langford because he was cancelled out by signing Richard Marshall. We might be a pick for Henne and/or Will Allen, but the size of contracts they signed would mean 6th and 7th round picks.
Im thinking losing Yerhemiah Bell probably cancelled out Marshall.. I would like to think that website at least knows that what they are doing.
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Posted: 2/15/2013 2:04 PM

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Langford certainly was worth more than a 4th rounder, with Parcells gone who is finding all the DT talent?? Were starting to run out...

Starks will be 30 next year and seemed to play much better in the 1st half of the season, how long can he last fighting in there? I would think we already seen the best of Starks 25-30 I think that would be the prime age for production from a DT and he is now on a downward slope of his career. Dolphins should think very hard 8 to 8.5 yr is a lot of money

Did we mess up keeping Starks and letting Langford go?
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Posted: 2/15/2013 2:49 PM

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Gonzorot wrote:
TourDeForce wrote: nope. Not getting a 4th for Langford because he was cancelled out by signing Richard Marshall. We might be a pick for Henne and/or Will Allen, but the size of contracts they signed would mean 6th and 7th round picks.
Im thinking losing Yerhemiah Bell probably cancelled out Marshall.. I would like to think that website at least knows that what they are doing.
I'm pretty sure Bell was cut. If so, then he doesn't count as a lost UFA
And the link to the site is combining Henne and Langford's salary using it against the salary of Marshall. You can't combine players. Its one UFA lost vs one UFA gained to determine if there is a pick, then salary is used to determine round of pick. Henne counts with no UFA replacement, but his salary was so low that we might get a 6th or 7th round pick. Same with Will Allen. Lost him with no replacement. Marshall and Langford offset. So, I think another 6th or 7th for Allen and Henne.

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Posted: 2/15/2013 3:04 PM

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dougb123 wrote: Langford certainly was worth more than a 4th rounder, with Parcells gone who is finding all the DT talent?? Were starting to run out...

Starks will be 30 next year and seemed to play much better in the 1st half of the season, how long can he last fighting in there? I would think we already seen the best of Starks 25-30 I think that would be the prime age for production from a DT and he is now on a downward slope of his career. Dolphins should think very hard 8 to 8.5 yr is a lot of money

Did we mess up keeping Starks and letting Langford go?
Langford was moved to DT in St Louis, I don't think he has panned out all that well..
Here is a list of the dolphins offseason moves last year maybe we can figure this out

QB David Garrard, WR Chad Ochocinco, WR Legedu Naanee, DE/OLB Jamaal Westerman, OLB Gary Guyton, CB Richard Marshall, S Tyrell Johnson. 
Early Draft Picks: 
QB Ryan Tannehill, OT Jonathan Martin, DE Olivier Vernon, TE Michael Egnew, RB Lamar Miller, DE/OLB Josh Kaddu, WR B.J. Cunningham. 
Offseason Losses: 
QB Chad Henne, FB Lex Hilliard, WR Brandon Marshall, G Vernon Carey, DE/DT Kendall Langford, DE/DT Phillip Merling, ILB Marvin Mitchell, CB Will Allen, SS Yeremiah Bell.

So we lost Henne, Vernon Carey,Allen Who was really expensive i remember..

Carey- not resigned and then retired
Henne-not resigned
Allen-not resigned
Langford-not resigned
Merling and Mitchell- not resigned
Bell- Cut

Now when you replace a player it has to be by signing a Free Agent in the same position I think so Maybe Henne was offset.. I don't know this is some hard stuff to figure out i may try to ask some experts. 

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Posted: 2/15/2013 3:55 PM

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Gonzo, player doesn't have to be from same position.
UFA vs UFA.
then determine salaries to figure out round pick is in.

so if Miami signed 5 UFA but 6 UFA left then Miami gets a pic. Then they need to figure out hom much the 1 that left signed for with new team to determine what round.
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Posted: 2/15/2013 4:06 PM

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Langford was moved to DT in St Louis, I don't think he has panned out all that well... after checking around it doesn't look good at all for Langford. He was a nice up and coming player at one point.. wonder if was the talent he was surrounded with here in Miami
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Posted: 2/16/2013 2:39 AM

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TourDeForce wrote: Gonzo, player doesn't have to be from same position.
UFA vs UFA.
then determine salaries to figure out round pick is in.

so if Miami signed 5 UFA but 6 UFA left then Miami gets a pic. Then they need to figure out hom much the 1 that left signed for with new team to determine what round.

In addition to the 32 selections in each of the seven rounds, a total of 32 compensatory picks are awarded to teams that have lost more or better compensatory free agents than they signed in the previous year.[58] Teams that gain and lose the same number of players but lose higher-valued players than they gain also can be awarded a pick, but only in the seventh round, after the other compensatory picks. Compensatory picks cannot be traded, and the placement of the picks is determined by a proprietary formula based on the player's salary, playing time, and postseason honors with his new team, with salary being the primary factor. So, for example, a team that lost a linebacker who signed for $2.5 million per year in free agency might get a sixth-round compensatory pick, while a team that lost a wide receiver who signed for $5 million per year might receive a fourth-round pick. awarded at the ends of Rounds 3 through 7

If fewer than 32 such picks are awarded, the remaining picks are awarded in the order in which teams would pick in a hypothetical eighth round of the draft (These are known as "supplemental compensatory selections").

Compensatory picks are awarded each year at the NFL annual meeting which is held at the end of March; typically, about three or four weeks before the draft.



Salary I would say salary lost wise we are way ahead of most teams in that departmant..

Performance, Marshall played only a few games didn't look so hot to me other then that everyone else was cut..

Chad Henne went on to start 6 games for the Jags and looked good at times.. Kendall Langford started everygame for the Rams not sure how he did but obviously well enough to get 16 games starts.

I think considering we got zero performance really and gave away 2 starters we should get about a 5th rounder.. I think a 6th rounder would suck

Post season Awards- umm  chad henne won an audi fuel efficiency award racing against Osi Umenyora to see who could spend less gas on a roadtrip.. 20k to charity biggrin

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Posted: 2/16/2013 6:55 PM

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Gonzorot wrote: I would sign Jermical Finley,Martellus Bennet or Jared Cook with 7 picks in the top 135 off the top of my head my dream draft would be 

1. Cordarelle Patterson WR
2a. Sam Montgomery or Datone Jones DE
2b. David Amerson or Baccari Rambo FS
3a. Logan Ryan  or Leon McfaddenCB
3b.Brennan Willaims RT
4a. Sean Porter LB
4b. Ryan Swope WR

I actually really love our HB position even without reggie bush... I think Miller/Thigpen battling for the number 1 spot with Daniel thomas being our Powerback is scary good.

If Jeff Ireland can do this right I am really excited about this offseason.

So umm what are you going to do with the other 25+ million. You arent done there buddy!

You forgot to add Michael Johnson who will be a beast!
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Posted: 2/17/2013 1:51 PM

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There's no way to pull Michael Johnson from Cincinnati they have more cap room than we do 50+ million from what I hear.
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