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Polian grades FA WR's

Posted: 2/6/2013 1:52 PM

Polian grades FA WR's 


As a GM, when I approached free agency, I utilized a tier system based on how I valued players. It involved three classes, which you'll see below:

Free-agency tiers
A Players: Worth paying big, starter-caliber money.
B Players: Guys I would sign but only if the value made sense.
C Players: Guys I'd sign for low-salary, short-term (one or two years) value, with low bonuses.

Among the Dolphins three most-discussed receiver targets, he gave Mike Wallace an A grade and B grades to Greg Jenningsand Dwyane Bowe. Here were his comments:
* Wallace: "A good route runner, has good instincts and typically has good hands, but he's small and you worry about injury. Inconsistency in the past also is a concern. Pittsburgh didn't reach a deal with him, which will make some teams wary, but this league is always looking for WRs with speed who can take the top off a defense -- and he can do that.

* Jennings, "will be a big name, but this is the classic question mark: How much do you pay a guy who will turn 30 at the start of the 2013 season and is coming off of two injury-plagued seasons?

* Bowe, "is certain to be one of the names all the gurus will be talking about, but he has inconsistent hands. The QB situation in Kansas City doesn't affect him that much; you have to catch the ball when it's thrown to you. Bowe will intrigue some people, and others will shy away."

Last edited 2/6/2013 1:54 PM by dougb123

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Posted: 2/7/2013 5:38 AM

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Wallace gets an A? I know he is a good deep threat but since the end of the season I have read everyday 5 times on free agents and most of the facts and opinions have Wallace as the biggest risk. There too many sites to list but that shocks me. I respect Bill Polian more than Sports writers but from what I have seen and read he is my third choice after Bowe and Jennings.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 11:20 AM

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Given our current WR situation, any of these WRs would help Tannehill next year. It's just finding the best WR for the right price. I personally would like to see Jennings here in Miami. At least, I think that's the safer choice. I think Mike Wallace is going to ask for too much money but Mike Wallace would be great addition to the team as well.

I'd be okay with Bowe but as a 3rd choice. He's too inconsistent for me.



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Posted: 2/7/2013 1:09 PM

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I would rather have Bowe or Wallace over Jennings. Jennings is older and had injury problems plus he is 5'11 or 5'10 not exactly prototypical size for a #1 receiver. Bowe has shown what he can do as the man. Jennings plays in an offense with many weapons and elite QB's. Bowe is a Stud.

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Posted: 2/7/2013 2:07 PM

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Greg Cosell has it Bowe, Jennings then Wallace

www.miamidolphins.com/media/vi...12-4f460e9306ce

I think I will stick with Jennings, Philbin should know exactly what he can do and how much he is worth. I'm hoping for two receivers in the draft and think Jennings would be the perfect guy to mentor them.

I would also like Hartline back, Tannehill and Hartline built a nice rapport last year and it would be nice to see how Hartline would do if he was the number 3 receiver on the field.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 3:00 PM

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Cardsareinmyblood wrote: I would rather have Bowe or Wallace over Jennings. Jennings is older and had injury problems plus he is 5'11 or 5'10 not exactly prototypical size for a #1 receiver. Bowe has shown what he can do as the man. Jennings plays in an offense with many weapons and elite QB's. Bowe is a Stud.
He drops way too many balls. I'm not sure I can label him a stud yet. I do think he has a ton of potential though.



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Posted: 2/7/2013 3:09 PM

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Im keep reading that Boldin could be come a cap casualty.

Before you say "he's too old" and stop reading, hear me out.

We have a ton of money to spend this offseason and the FA's I would prefer to pick up are going to be 2 of the cheapest in Jennings and Boldin. We should sign Jennings for 2-3 years and Bolden for 1-2 (my preference would be no more than one. I believe you should be able to sign Jennings for around 6 a year and Bolden for about 4-5 which would put our total wpend on FA WR's at 10 million for one year and they would come in and make a HUGE impact and could take some of the pressure off of the younger guys while still acting as a mentor. This helps Tanne as well as the young rookie WR/WR's we draft this year.
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Posted: 2/7/2013 3:26 PM

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Baltimore will re-work Boldins Contract.  I dont see him becoming avilable.

I still think of the three big names I would go Bowe, Wallace and Jennings.  Something tells me Jennings is going to have lost a step and the injuries are a concern.  Wallace is the speed guy we covet who has big play ability.  Maybe if he features he can really shine, BUT he's had Big Ben tossing him the rock the past couple of years and he hasn't really distinguished himself as a WR.  Bowe has had scrubs throwing to him.  He catches the ball.  Yes, he drops a few, but he also makes those insane catches no one expects him to.  He reminds me a bit of Boldin in that he will extend his arms out to catch a ball over or around a DB.  I'm high on the guy I admit. 
Littletrim7 wrote: Im keep reading that Boldin could be come a cap casualty.

Before you say "he's too old" and stop reading, hear me out.

We have a ton of money to spend this offseason and the FA's I would prefer to pick up are going to be 2 of the cheapest in Jennings and Boldin. We should sign Jennings for 2-3 years and Bolden for 1-2 (my preference would be no more than one. I believe you should be able to sign Jennings for around 6 a year and Bolden for about 4-5 which would put our total wpend on FA WR's at 10 million for one year and they would come in and make a HUGE impact and could take some of the pressure off of the younger guys while still acting as a mentor. This helps Tanne as well as the young rookie WR/WR's we draft this year.

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Posted: 2/7/2013 4:33 PM

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Boldin came up big in the playoffs and the super bowl so I don't believe they will let him go, 6 mill is not much for a receiver of his caliber even if he's 32.
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Posted: 2/8/2013 5:26 PM

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Jennings is by far the most polished receiver of the 3 his hands are excellent his route running is excellent he can play inside or out he runs short medium or long routes he would be an excellent #1 option and he is double teamed most of the time and still gets open.  Bowe could also be a #1, consistency is his only problem. Wallace is NOT a #1 receiver but he does have 4.2 speed and can blow the top off a defense and does get excellent yards after the catch. So what Jennings is 30 he has 4 or 5 very good years left and would be by far the best to tech the younger Dolphin receivers. Jerry Rice was still excellent at 36 and played till he fell off some at 37
Cardsareinmyblood wrote: I would rather have Bowe or Wallace over Jennings. Jennings is older and had injury problems plus he is 5'11 or 5'10 not exactly prototypical size for a #1 receiver. Bowe has shown what he can do as the man. Jennings plays in an offense with many weapons and elite QB's. Bowe is a Stud.

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Posted: 2/8/2013 6:01 PM

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+1, get Jennings and a WR and a TE (hopefully Eiffert) with our 2-2nd round picks. Trade up into the first round for Eifert or Ertz if u have to. I would guess that would cost us a 3rd or 4th round pick.
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Posted: 2/9/2013 2:42 PM

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Here's my problem with Wallace. He is a great deep threat, but...has Tannehill shown us he has the deep accurary to invested 10+ million is a guy whose biggest asset by far is getting open deep? Tannehill was really accurate short and middle but I didn't see that many pretty deep balls. Jennings fits our offense, Bowe is just talented, but Wallace may not work here the way he worked in Pitt.
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Posted: 2/9/2013 5:42 PM

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dstock21 wrote: Here's my problem with Wallace. He is a great deep threat, but...has Tannehill shown us he has the deep accurary to invested 10+ million is a guy whose biggest asset by far is getting open deep? Tannehill was really accurate short and middle but I didn't see that many pretty deep balls. Jennings fits our offense, Bowe is just talented, but Wallace may not work here the way he worked in Pitt.
I can actually recall quite a few deep passes that even the above average WR would have caught. The problem is that we only have average (at best) WR's that just cant make adjustments on the ball and for what its worth, when he did overthrow someone it was usually by less than a yard where someone like Wallace would have been quick enough to get to it.

With that said, While I would not be upset in the slightest if we signed Wallace, he is 3rd on my list of the big three.

One of my biggest reasons I would prefer Jennings is not only due to his relationship Philbin and knowing the offense, I do feel he will come cheaper than the other two which will give us more money to fill as many holes as we can. AAAAAANNNDDD, he is a pretty damn good WR as well.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 9:06 AM

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I don't know about cheaper, Wallace was asking for Fitzgerald money. He did have a down season but is he taking the blame for that? None of these guys are top 5 WRs and my guess is Jennings knows it and IMO would be cheaper. Not cheap, but cheaper.
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Posted: 2/10/2013 7:57 PM

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We don't need a well polished great runner. We have two with hartline and bess. What we need is a guy who can strike the fear in the defense and not stack the box. Someone who can give us a one play 80 yd drive. Wallace is the youngest fastest with the biggest playmaking potential.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 7:38 AM

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The new one to add to this mix (via trade) is the WR from Minnesota. He is the most talented of everyone we have talked about. He also has the most problems (2 different blow ups with 2 different HC`s), and he is also the youngest. I dont see us trading a 2nd or 3rd for him, though. As he is crazy. But uber talented.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 10:25 AM

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packphinsfan wrote: The new one to add to this mix (via trade) is the WR from Minnesota. He is the most talented of everyone we have talked about. He also has the most problems (2 different blow ups with 2 different HC`s), and he is also the youngest. I dont see us trading a 2nd or 3rd for him, though. As he is crazy. But uber talented.

He would be an amazing pickup and is lightening fast, the problem is this guys has a reputation much worse than Chad Johnson ever did. If Chad didnt stick, there is no way this guy will. Its really too bad because we could probably give up one of our 3rds and land him. He is a gifted athlete but too much baggage.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:14 AM

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Percy Harvin also doesn't just have personality baggage, but injury and migraine problems too.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 11:16 AM

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We don't need a well polished great runner. We have two with hartline and bess. What we need is a guy who can strike the fear in the defense and not stack the box. Someone who can give us a one play 80 yd drive. Wallace is the youngest fastest with the biggest playmaking potential.

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We have one polished route runner in Bess. Hartline is a free agent, and no more likely to be signed than Wallace, Jennings, or Bowe. Agree we need playmakers, but some guys in the draft fit the mold too so we can go that route for a deep guy.
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Posted: 2/11/2013 8:04 PM

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Jschwald wrote: Percy Harvin also doesn't just have personality baggage, but injury and migraine problems too.

Despite the press on the migraines the man played through it. This injury is the first one of note in his career that I know of. I would trade a 2 tomorrow for this guy. A playmaker in so many ways.
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