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Jake Long reportedly lowballed by Miami Dolphins

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Posted: 1/24/2013 10:13 AM

Jake Long reportedly lowballed by Miami Dolphins 


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Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald reported Wednesday that the Dolphins presented their left tackle with "something of a lowball" contract offer during the season. The Dolphins know Long did not play like a top-10 offensive tackle in 2012, and his injury concerns are serious long-term. He will need to take a pay cut to stay in Miami and yet ...

"He's one of those guys that likes the idea of being the best at what he does, and one way he proves to everyone that he is is by being the highest paid at what he does," one Dolphins source told Salguero. "Yeah, there's a considerable amount of professional ego there."

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Posted: 1/24/2013 12:41 PM

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yeah how do you put a price tag on a guy who has been injured and hasnt been playing at a high level before being injured. Unfortunately for Ireland he doesn't have a good reputation so when he hurts somebodys feelings with a contract offer he isn't seen as a crafty wheeler and dealer, he's a jerk. If his career as a GM ever takes off views on his contract negotiations will change and it will be his strength not his weakness.
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Posted: 1/24/2013 1:07 PM

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Seriously, I hate the spin that gets put on a situation like that...

I'd much rather Ireland "lowball" Jake Long than pay overpay him, or even pay him what would be considered a fair price. I would be hesitant about giving him $5 million, and that would probably be considered a lowball.

Jonathan Martin was adequate, John Jerry is more suited to play RT and Nate Garner filled in well - why would we pay Jake a big salary when we have huge needs at playmaker and cb and potentially already have his replacement on the roster...?
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Posted: 1/24/2013 2:42 PM

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Seems quite a few of our FA players will be able to test the market and check there value. Armando Salguero is a dick for writing such an article with the headline "lowball offer" must be the only way he can get people to read his stuff, everyone knows Long isn't the same player he was and is not going to get the same money he had. You can find much better LT's for less, while I don't think it would be wise to have Martin and Jerry as our starters we can check FA to and find someone better if were paying top dollar or a decent player at the price point were willing to pay. If we can't find them we should still let our FA go if were not getting value from them. Rather be 7-9 with a younger team building toward the future then 7-9 with the same guys and over paying them.

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Posted: 1/24/2013 5:36 PM

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First, after the complete sham the media had in the Manti Teo fiasco I really don't trust any report that does not quote a source or actually provide some numbers or facts. Sports media has become a complete joke. Heisman trophy finalist creates an imaginary friend who was on the Stanford volleyball team, died, was in a car crash, and had leukimia and all this slipped past their research nets? HA! Armando better come up with something better this this article to make me beleive the Phins actually did "lowball" Long.

 

I wouldn't be heartbroken with a 3 yr $27-28 million dollar contract. Cause right now, the Phins don't have many better options at LT. Martin sucked, the draft doesn't offer much better help at 12, certainly not in the 2nd and 3rd, and priorities in the draft and FA need to on WR, TE, and CB. I just hope and pray that if Long is resigned that he snaps out of this funk and gets back to being the best in the league.

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Posted: 1/24/2013 7:42 PM

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If the rumors are true about him expecting $11-$12 million then Ireland should absolutely low ball him.

I'm guessing that would be a blow to the ego but the facts are facts.  His play is declining and he has had some major health issues the last 2 years.

I agree with the other poster that for $8-$9 million I'd resign him.  If not, let someone else overpay and get poor value.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 3:58 AM

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mlb1399 wrote: If the rumors are true about him expecting $11-$12 million then Ireland should absolutely low ball him.

I'm guessing that would be a blow to the ego but the facts are facts.  His play is declining and he has had some major health issues the last 2 years.

I agree with the other poster that for $8-$9 million I'd resign him.  If not, let someone else overpay and get poor value.
That was me and I have no problem letting Jake Long walk if he is going to be asking for that type of money.. Geez didn't the dude have like an 60 million dollar rookie contract or something stupid like that, At some point if you really like the Miami Dolphins you have to be willing to accept a little less then what your ego is telling him which is quite inflated if this is true.

I get the feeling he doesn't care about the dolphins at all if he is going to still try to fleece us after fleecing us on his rookie deal only playing about half the season on average. Everyday I am headed more and more in favor of letting him go and getting somebody younger and more reliable and paying them big money.
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Posted: 1/25/2013 8:19 AM

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Agreed. It is funny how he has the title (making JI look bad) but then agrees with everything he`s doing in the article.
dougb123 wrote: Seems quite a few of our FA players will be able to test the market and check there value. Armando Salguero is a dick for writing such an article with the headline "lowball offer" must be the only way he can get people to read his stuff, everyone knows Long isn't the same player he was and is not going to get the same money he had. You can find much better LT's for less, while I don't think it would be wise to have Martin and Jerry as our starters we can check FA to and find someone better if were paying top dollar or a decent player at the price point were willing to pay. If we can't find them we should still let our FA go if were not getting value from them. Rather be 7-9 with a younger team building toward the future then 7-9 with the same guys and over paying them.

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Posted: 1/27/2013 7:44 AM

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I would be pissed if we paid him 8 or 9 Million a year. Before he got hurt he wasn't playing like an 8 or 9 million a year player. We would all be pissed in 2014 when we tight on money again and big jake is making 9 million to be a big name has been. I would rather us franchise him and overpay him for one more season to see if he snaps out of it than overpay him for multiplr seasons.
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Posted: 1/27/2013 9:30 AM

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Dstock, I think you hit what JI was talking about. He kept saying "difficult decision" for both them and Jake. I take that as meaning "we arent paying over X dollars". I dont think Jake has a chance in hell of seeing 8 mil.
dstock21 wrote: I would be pissed if we paid him 8 or 9 Million a year. Before he got hurt he wasn't playing like an 8 or 9 million a year player. We would all be pissed in 2014 when we tight on money again and big jake is making 9 million to be a big name has been. I would rather us franchise him and overpay him for one more season to see if he snaps out of it than overpay him for multiplr seasons.

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Posted: 1/27/2013 10:09 AM

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8-9 Mil a year is about what Jennings will be asking. It's in the neighborhood of what cbs Derek Cox or Domanique Rogers Cromartie will expect, and only a few million less than what a contract from DE Michael Johnson will want. More than what Keller or Jared Cook will be asking.

I would rather have any of those guys than Jake Long, we simply have to let him him walk.
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Posted: 1/27/2013 12:12 PM

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You can ask but it doesn't mean you will get anything close to it. Rather get 2 receivers though the draft than overpay for any of 3 top receivers. Wonder how Buffalo feels how about giving Mario Williams 100 mil and the production they got from him last year, it's the same old story time after time. Miami with Karlos Dansby would be a FA success story and I feel he is overpaid. Jake Long is one of the top OT in FA and LT are still very high on the draft board and the timing may not be right to part ways with him this year considering all the needs we have, I hate over paying players but it may be in our best interest to franchise him this year give him 15 mil and be in a better position next year to deal with him and take a LT early 2014 draft. Yeah I know in this same post I said we could get better for less but that may not be the case and just wishful thinking on my part...
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Posted: 1/27/2013 12:53 PM

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You wouldn't overpay for Jennings or Wallace, but would give a broken down, mediocre-when-not-injured, Jake Long 15 Million dollars in a SINGLE SEASON! eek1

Also, what 2 receivers would you get in the draft? There are no Andre Johnson, Megatron, Fitz type receivers. Not even a Blackmon or Crabtree in this years classAllen or Patterson might warrant #12, but Patterson has bust-potential and Allen doesn't seem to have a particularly high ceiling. Give me a history of production a la Jennings any day of the week.
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Posted: 1/27/2013 8:30 PM

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Bye Bye Jake, Screw you for trying to fleece us for more money when you spent half your Enormous rookie contract on IR.  Now he is trying to get 10 million dollars a year when he was rated the 46th best Lineman by PFF. Your skills are eroded Jake but your Ego has not if you won't lower your demands to an organization that has paid you handsomely with minimal return.    Freaking cost us Matt Ryan also, Love you Irelandbanghead

Report: Jake Long wants “at least” $10 million annually

Posted by Evan Silva on January 27, 2013, 4:37 PM EST
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Jake Long was once considered in many circles to be the best left tackle in football. His stock has fallen off dramatically due to myriad injuries and declining performance, and he’s slated to hit a deep free-agent market for offensive tackles this March.

Long’s monetary expectations remain high. Citing people who have spoken to the Dolphins’ front office, Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reports Long is believed to be seeking “at least $10 million a year” and the Fins are “pessimistic” about their chances of retaining him.

Jackson adds that Long “scoffed” at the Dolphins’ in-season extension offer.

Long turns 28 in May and there are indications his body is breaking down, so we can’t fault him for pursuing every last dollar on his first ever opportunity to test free agency. With the way things have gone for him recently, this could conceivably be Long’s final substantial pay day the NFL.

He’s just probably not going to get it from the Dolphins.

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Posted: 1/27/2013 9:01 PM

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Jake Long won't get 10 million from anyone. This is where the sport reallys aggrivates me. This guy is completly set for life from his first contract, obviously has not gotten better over the last couple seasons, and has some major injury concerns but wants 10 million a season? Unreal, if he plays like last season I'd pay him 4 million.
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Posted: 1/27/2013 9:50 PM

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We need to get a free agent tackle. Who would be the best value for the price? Long, Gosder Cherilus, Brandon Albert? I'm also not thrilled with the WRs in the draft, really need to get Jennings or Bowe.
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Posted: 1/27/2013 10:05 PM

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Jake Long is still better than 85% of the tackles out there and Martins not quite strong enough IMO to handle the LT spot. So yes I would franchise him if I had to, there no one better in FA and the ones that are as good they are RFA. The best LT's in the draft will be gone by the time we pick at 12 and I don't want to use it on one anyhow. Look at the FA's find us one that doesn't have back problems, Jake always been willing to go even if he was hurt, so find me a better option that's not going to get Tannehill killed and I'm all in, except drafting one with our 1st pick.

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Posted: 1/27/2013 10:29 PM

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What gave me pause and to stop and rethink the wideouts

This is what walterfootball had to say

Dwayne Bowe, WR, Chiefs. Age: 28.
Dwayne Bowe is one of the most overrated players in the NFL. He consistently posts solid fantasy numbers, so people think he's better than he really is. The box score doesn't show that Bowe constantly drops passes and is responsible for interceptions. He's a very good No. 2 wideout, but he's too unreliable to be a top option.

Mike Wallace, WR, Steelers. Age: 27.
Mike Wallace is overrated. He has blazing speed, but he's a horribly inefficient receiver. He dropped tons of passes and ranked near the bottom of the NFL in terms of catch percentage among starting wideouts.

Greg Jennings, WR, Packers. Age: 29.
Greg Jennings is a talented receiver, but he may be overvalued because he's always worked with either Brett Favre or Aaron Rodgers. Plus, he tends to get banged up quite frequently.

So while I may give Jake 15 mil for 1 year I'll be dammed if I'm going to be tied into long term contract with someone I don't think will workout, not for 10-12 mil for 5 or 6 years. I'm better off looking at the draft and taking 2 high enough that I hope they work, if not I can go back next year and try again.

I'll try Jennings if I can sign him for 6 mil a year. Bowe and Wallace just to expensive, Both probably want more than 10 mil a year. Resign Hartline and get 2 top pick from the draft.

I will try TE's  Martellus Bennett, Jared Cook see if I could get either or both at a decent price.

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Posted: 1/28/2013 12:49 AM

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kebo wrote: We need to get a free agent tackle. Who would be the best value for the price? Long, Gosder Cherilus, Brandon Albert? I'm also not thrilled with the WRs in the draft, really need to get Jennings or Bowe.
Brandon Albert, Phil Loadholt, Ryan Clady Would all be better values then Jake Long.. Hell I would take Winston Justice over jake long from a value standpoint and all are going to be Free Agents next season.. Also William Beatty is available and that was Eli's blindside protector.

We will see how it plays out, Honestly  I planned for Jake Long to walk after this year and I   think round 2 would be a good spot to spend on a LT.Its not like Jake played phenomenal last year i would say he was pretty average.  drafting a LT like Eric Fisher who's value has leaped by bounds after this senior bowl looks like more solid of a Pick to me now although I dont think we can get him now.
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Posted: 1/28/2013 1:58 AM

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Miami didn't fall apart with Long out. I'd rather have Martin at LT and find an RT, which shouldn't be terribly difficult.

As for Bowe, he's put up big numbers with CHUM throwing to him. Remember that.

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