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Fire Ireland Now!

Posted: 1/8/2013 3:21 PM

Fire Ireland Now! 


It's nice to fantasize about draft picks and free agents but as long as this guy is calling the shots .... what difference does it make?

Details remain sketchy about Ireland's involvement as the GM when Parcells was here but he was kept in a cage? What did he do those formative years as the GM? Make sure the tires in Tuna's golf cart were properly inflated?

Why does he get a free ride .... again?

2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 - you don't think that's enough time?

He has his fingerprints on everything but he's not guilty? It's all Parcells fault?
Yes, Parcells was a POS and so was Sparano but why is Ireland better?

It's ground hog day and he's done it again in 2012.
He drafted the 31st rated QB and the 76th rated OT with his 1st and 2nd and the rest are just bodies.


Yippee, we have 5 picks in the first 82 selections and 45 million in cap space.
If we had anyone else calling the shots (including people on this internet site) it might be a little exciting, but Ireland's act is tired and old.

Get rid of him.
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Posted: 1/8/2013 3:32 PM

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Much as I hate the guy he made some shrewd moves and luckily for him the Tannehill gamble has paid off faster then anyone expected including a skeptic like myself..

He has earned one more year and that is it, If he can't put a playoff team together with this much capspace, Draft picks etc  then Ross has to finally realize He needs to go.
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Posted: 1/8/2013 5:30 PM

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He's not getting fired, what's the point of the thread?
Somebody gave me a Hickey.
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Posted: 1/8/2013 6:02 PM

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Exactly. The point of the thread is he should be fired. We need an GM upgrade.

I know we should be excited because we unloaded Ted Ginn for Nolan Carroll a few years ago but it's tough to live in the past.
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Posted: 1/8/2013 6:06 PM

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Yeah these threads are tiresome.. Ireland never gets any credit for some of the players he does find like Reshad Jones. A 5th round pick playing like a 1st or 2nd...I still see some jems in the 2012 class that were to young and inexperienced to help in 2012. If anyone is on the hot set it should be Sherman..
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Posted: 1/8/2013 6:14 PM

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dougb123 wrote: Yeah these threads are tiresome.. Ireland never gets any credit for some of the players he does find like Reshad Jones. A 5th round pick playing like a 1st or 2nd...I still see some jems in the 2012 class that were to young and inexperienced to help in 2012. If anyone is on the hot set it should be Sherman..
You can't have it both ways. I was fine with getting rid of attitudes and shorthanding ourselves this season on offense. It allows the guys who are staying to learn the new offense. But there is no doubt this team was shorthanded on talent on offense. And yet, you want Sherman on the hot seat??? Sherman did a lot with very little. Credit or blame Ireland for the offensive talent, but don't blame Sherman...

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Posted: 1/8/2013 7:44 PM

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I both blame and credit Ireland for the offensive talent.

I blame him because the talent lacked severely, particularly at receiver. I credit him, because when faced with the task of completely retooling to fit a completely different, uptempo offensive scheme, he finagled an offseason with 5 high draft picks and about $50 mil in cap space.

I don't know if he can fill the voids on the team - he's never been good w/ 2nds and 3rds - but I'm glad we are structured this way so we can get Philbin (and Coyle) the type's of players they need next year.
Look at the Jets - they are going to have a totally new offensive system next year, and yet Tannenbaum handcuffed them so they will have an old, past-their-prime group of players who don't fit the system attempting to make the transition, with the 9 million dollar Sanchez leading the way.

Ireland put us in a position to improve without bringing us back to ground zero, and got us a quarterback. I don't know if he'll make the right moves, but I hope he's learned something.

I also understand why you might put Sherman on the hotseat, because he didn't maximize the little talent he had. But he definitely does deserve a full season with players fitting the system, rather than fitting his system to our (mediocre) players. If he repeats his 2012 performance, I'd say on the hot seat he goes.

My point is - Steve Ross is not reading this thread and changing his mind. I love talking about ways to improve the team, but to me this talk is right up there with "trade a 1st for Fitzgerald", or "sign the best FA at WR, CB, OT, and TE". It's fantasy stuff, and I don't get what the point is. He's not going anywhere so let's just see what happens.
Somebody gave me a Hickey.
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Posted: 1/8/2013 9:59 PM

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It is true that we have 5 picks in the first 82 picks and significant cap space but in reality we only have 2 extra picks an extra 3rd for Marshall this year and 2nd for Vonta Davis this year.

So you say Ireland really finagled it with these "shrewd" moves: Huh?

We give up (2) HIGH 2nd round picks to get Marshall from the Broncos and then trade him for(2) average 3rd round picks to the Bears.
We give up our first round draft pick for a low 2nd round pick from the Colts for Davis.


For all the Ireland / Marshall wheeling and dealing we have John "fat butt" Jerry and ."no show" Egnew to show for it. I can't wait to see what gem Ireland will mine with that extra  pick for Davis.

And all the cap space Ireland cleared was from the garbage deals he was an integral part of in the first place.

He sucks and he needs to go
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Posted: 1/8/2013 11:18 PM

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Fire FreeWanny Now!
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Posted: 1/8/2013 11:25 PM

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What's the point of another thread like this?  You've made it abundantly clear that you don't like him and want him gone.  Guess what.  You have no control over it.  I don't know about you but I'd rather be positive and be wrong than negative and be right.
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Posted: 1/9/2013 11:14 AM

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I understand that we prefer to take an Alice in Wonderland approach and it's more fun to pretend that ... everything is good as we fantasize about who we should draft for the next 4 months, but don't get too excited if the same guy is pulling the trigger.

His track record sucks.

Of course you can fire me as long as I receive similar severance compensation as the rest of the NFL coaches receive. LOL!
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Posted: 1/9/2013 11:57 AM

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FreeWanny wrote: It's nice to fantasize about draft picks and free agents but as long as this guy is calling the shots .... what difference does it make?

Details remain sketchy about Ireland's involvement as the GM when Parcells was here but he was kept in a cage? What did he do those formative years as the GM? Make sure the tires in Tuna's golf cart were properly inflated?

Why does he get a free ride .... again?

2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 - you don't think that's enough time?

He has his fingerprints on everything but he's not guilty? It's all Parcells fault?
Yes, Parcells was a POS and so was Sparano but why is Ireland better?

It's ground hog day and he's done it again in 2012.
He drafted the 31st rated QB and the 76th rated OT with his 1st and 2nd and the rest are just bodies.


Yippee, we have 5 picks in the first 82 selections and 45 million in cap space.
If we had anyone else calling the shots (including people on this internet site) it might be a little exciting, but Ireland's act is tired and old.

Get rid of him.
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Posted: 1/9/2013 12:26 PM

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--- FreeWanny wrote:

I understand that we prefer to take an Alice in Wonderland approach and it's more fun to pretend that ... everything is good as we fantasize about who we should draft for the next 4 months, but don't get too excited if the same guy is pulling the trigger.

His track record sucks.

Of course you can fire me as long as I receive similar severance compensation as the rest of the NFL coaches receive. LOL!

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No one thinks things are good with him. Some hate him, some think the jury is still out.

B*tching just to b*tch every other day doesn't do any good. You're basically say the same thing in every post about him. If you want to vent, go see a shrink or email the Dolphins. Threaten to stop spending any dollars until they fire him. Money talks.
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Posted: 1/9/2013 2:27 PM

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FreeWanny wrote: It's nice to fantasize about draft picks and free agents but as long as this guy is calling the shots .... what difference does it make?

Details remain sketchy about Ireland's involvement as the GM when Parcells was here but he was kept in a cage? What did he do those formative years as the GM? Make sure the tires in Tuna's golf cart were properly inflated?

Why does he get a free ride .... again?

2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 - you don't think that's enough time?

He has his fingerprints on everything but he's not guilty? It's all Parcells fault?
Yes, Parcells was a POS and so was Sparano but why is Ireland better?

It's ground hog day and he's done it again in 2012.
He drafted the 31st rated QB and the 76th rated OT with his 1st and 2nd and the rest are just bodies.


Yippee, we have 5 picks in the first 82 selections and 45 million in cap space.
If we had anyone else calling the shots (including people on this internet site) it might be a little exciting, but Ireland's act is tired and old.

Get rid of him.
I'm not saying I like him or hate him, but to call RTH the "31st rated QB" in the league is to grossly take the stats out of context.  By all accounts then, you rather have Fitzpatrick or Kevin Kolb at the helm than RTH?
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Posted: 1/9/2013 3:12 PM

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To be honest stat wise Tannehill had a very similar year to Andrew Luck who had just as many Interceptions as he did TD's.More Importantly Ryan Tanneshill at least showed some promise for a rookie QB who was supposed to take a year minimum to see the field.

I know Wanny that Ireland has made terrible moves for us in the past and lived to tell the tale.. To be honest everyone wanted him to get fired last year but they kept him he made it through and i have to say he came out on the otherside and now this organization looks good. Lots of Capspace Lots of Draft Picks.. Ireland has bought himself another year of Job Security simply because Tannehill panned out and didn't crash his first year... However 8-8 or 7-9 is no good anymore for us, Its playoffs or GTF out Ireland. I am sort of worried that if the time comes where Ross Has to fire Ireland again if he will really do it.
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Posted: 1/9/2013 3:12 PM

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OH COME ON NOW GUYS WE HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT GOING 7-9 SINCE THE Lincoln Aministration and while other teams that were down are getting better Miami is not getting better . this mirage that people are seeing is alarming  because its like there is more and more excusses from this fan base and our salray cap was brought up as being just barely under the cap and if that is so, then we wont be getting better because we cant rely on the draft alone .

other teams make moves that pay off  while Miami makes moves that fans seem to make excusses for . none of us are likely to be alive by the time Miami wins enough to be at .500 let alone make the playoffs.

its maddening that Rick Speilman made better moves and still gets ripped but Irelan can do no wrong.

I would like to see us sign some superstars not these basement bargin Bess and Hartline like players . Free Wanny is right and if its true that we are not in good shape salary cap wise then someone should get their asses fired.

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Posted: 1/9/2013 8:09 PM

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Why not get a plane and fly a banner?

Oh, wait...

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Posted: 1/9/2013 10:45 PM

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Dolphin beat writer - Omar Kelly writes in today's Sun Sentinel:

"If you don't look at the end results and are honest you'll admit that the Dolphins have been fairly competitive the last 4 seasons since Ross tenure began".

Don't look at the end results? Fairly competitive? WTF?

There is only one way to endure this beat writer feel good gibberish ... rip it and rip it good.

We're all Dolfans here: some choose to tell it like it is and others want to embrace the mediocrity.

If there was only one restaurant in town and you went there to eat 5 times and each time you got a crappy meal, do you look on the bright side and say at least you weren't poisoned or do you complain that the food sucks?

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Posted: 1/10/2013 11:30 AM

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FreeWanny wrote: Dolphin beat writer - Omar Kelly writes in today's Sun Sentinel:

"If you don't look at the end results and are honest you'll admit that the Dolphins have been fairly competitive the last 4 seasons since Ross tenure began".

Don't look at the end results? Fairly competitive? WTF?

There is only one way to endure this beat writer feel good gibberish ... rip it and rip it good.

We're all Dolfans here: some choose to tell it like it is and others want to embrace the mediocrity.

If there was only one restaurant in town and you went there to eat 5 times and each time you got a crappy meal, do you look on the bright side and say at least you weren't poisoned or do you complain that the food sucks?
Yeah, but I don't have to listen to other bitch and moan about that restaurant non-stop...

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Posted: 1/10/2013 1:06 PM

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So you're saying to shut up and be happy with the crappy meal? Can't do. Not right now.
Do you read the news?
Coaches and GM's are being canned left and right within a 2 week period and that makes the complaining relevant. Sparano was canned yesterday and talk of Mularkey being canned today.

Teams are making moves left and right trying to correct their management and improve while we sit on are butts and  spin cycle our mediocrity. How long was Sparano the OC with the Jets?
If he was here you would be defending him saying he needed at least 3 years to turn things around. We went 3-6 the last 9 games of the season and ended on a disgraceful note getting shut out by the Patriots 28-0.

Fire Ireland now!

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