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Posted: 12/9/2012 8:08 PM

Mock Offseason 


Ok, I figure given the cap space and amount of Free Agents we will have, a mock draft isn’t going to cut it, so I’m putting together a mock offseason. This involves which Free Agents we let walk, and who we resign – as well as who we target in Free Agency. I have estimated the 2013 salary for all of my targets, and believe I have been reasonable/conservative. It also contains a 3 round 2013 Dolphins mock draft. This is working off of the projected $45 million estimate we will have to work with. Here you go:

 

Resigned Free Agents (in order of priority):

($8 million) Sean Smith – underachieving & inconsistent, but the best of our lacklustre CBs, and has the skill set to be elite. This is less about resigning Smith and more about not losing our one mediocre corner.

($ 5 million) Brian Hartline – A very solid option at WR, will break 1000 yards

($2 million) Chris Clemons – Ok starting safety, getting better. Has developed a lot under Coyle, and consistency at the back will be big for us. Shouldn’t be too expensive.

($3 million) Tony McDaniel – Provides solid depth at DT. Shouldn’t be too expensive.

 

Let them walk:

Jake Long – too expensive, injury prone, skill deteriorating.

Randy Starks – play has really dropped off 2nd half of the season, will be looking for big money. Odrick can be moved inside where he fits better.

Anthony Fasano – solid blocker, but not a true receiving threat outside of the red zone. Play has dropped off recently.

Reggie Bush – inconsistent, dances too much.  Good leader but will follow the $. Miller deserves more carries.

 

Free Agent Targets (in order of priority):

($9 million) Greg Jennings, WR, Green Bay – Big, fast, not a true burner but can get deep. Familiar with Philbin.

($6 million) Jared Cook, TE, Tennessee – Athletic, seam threat could open up the middle

 ($4 million) LB and ST Depth – I don’t know enough about reserve players, but this is the other major area of need and I expect Ireland to spend here in Free Agency.

 

2013 draft ($6 million):

1) Jake Matthews – OT, Texas A&M. Plug and Play RT, solidifies the line. Definitely our biggest need if Jake walks.

2a) Jordan Poyer – CB, Oregon State. All-American cover corner will enable us to play man coverage, taking advantage of Smith’s skill set.

2b) Margus Hunt – DE, SMU. Physical specimen, raw and improving. Solid pass-rusher & getting better. NCAA record-holder for blocked kicks.

3a) Logan Ryan – CB, Rutgers. Very good cover corner, though hasn’t played against elite competition. It's a good idea to double down on rookie corners if expecting one to start.

3b) Ryan Swope – WR, Texas A&M. Was Tannehill’s favorite target, though he projects more as a slot guy.


What do you guys think? I’d love some feedback, as this was several hours of research and work, aka procrastination.

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Posted: 12/9/2012 8:55 PM

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If we draft another OL in the 1st round, I think I'll puke.  I'd much rather see a WR, CB or DE.  Someone who can impact a game and make plays.  I just don't believe in taking an OL in the top 10.

I'm also not a big fan of paying for big name FA's.  You don't get good value because the market often overbids because bad teams like us will overpay to make a splash.

Outside of that, I like the positions you're drafting.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 1:00 AM

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Honestly i know it hurts to lose but if we can lose the next 2 games we will have a pick between 5-10 in my opinion which is a great spot and optimal considering all the draft picks we will have.. This season i didn't expect much, NEXT SEASON I expect alot and for real this time no wishful thinking.. Tons of cap room lots of picks and a young core to add to.

Here is my draft if we pick at 6

1. Demontre Moore OLB Texas A&M Cam Wake needs another dominant pass rusher to open things up, If we add another great pass rusher we will have a top 10 defense imo.
I haven't watched too much gamefilm till the offseason but the numbers and explosivness isevident and he is a lock to go in the top10 and pick 6 is a perfect spot for him to land *Backup will be Manti Teo for value, Mingo for need.

2.Cordarelle Patterson Tennesee WR  complete WR with a very solid skill set across the board.. Great hands, good speed, good routes, good blocking, I think he can be very similar to hakeem nicks at the NFL level.. Perfect fit for what Philbin uses his WR's for.

2b.Zack Ertz- Stanford TE Im serious about getting some weapons on offense, This guy has a ton of upside and finding complete TE's in the draft is getting harder every year. He can block,Catch, and has good speed  Could be the next gronkowski type TE

3a.Baccari Rambo Georgia FS I like Rambo, who has had off the field Drug problems but has been a playmaker who lead the nation at safety in interceptions a  year ago. Not trying to run a choir i want to win and am willing to give this guy as well as Mathieu a chance to redeem himself.

3b. Xavier Nixon OT Florida- without a doubt we need someone to help out on the line and he offers the best skill set for the type of offense we run.. Very quick, Good in pass protection against speed rushers. * backup pick is Alex Hurst of LSU a mauler Lineman 340 pounds who  is good for the running game but not as quick.

4. Tyrann Mathieu CB I know it seems like this kid has problems and he does but he is doing the right thing moving away from LSU and moving in with Patrick Peterson's family to get his head on straight. I believe this kid is taking his career seriously now. The talent is there he is a tad undersized but at this juncture he is worth the risk.. New England made a similar move with Dennard that has payed off well.


Free Agency

Resign..

Randy Starks- the guy is our best dlineman and a very solid DT we cannot let him walk away for free

Sign a big money Left Tackle Jonathan Martin is a seive right now and was literally thrown around by aldon smith he may improve but he is far from ready to start at Tackle..we need to resign long or sign someone better.. People forget how bad our team was before we drafted Jake Long and i don't want to go back to our QB's having 2 seconds to throw before getting crushed.

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Posted: 12/10/2012 6:39 AM

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mlb1399 wrote: If we draft another OL in the 1st round, I think I'll puke.  I'd much rather see a WR, CB or DE.  Someone who can impact a game and make plays.  I just don't believe in taking an OL in the top 10.

I'm also not a big fan of paying for big name FA's.  You don't get good value because the market often overbids because bad teams like us will overpay to make a splash.

Outside of that, I like the positions you're drafting.
I actually agree with you on every point, and sort of reluctantly ended up setting up my mock as I did based on the players available. In order to fill holes at starting WR, CB, DE, and OT we're probably going to have to make one move in Free Agency.

The starting caliber DB's available are Grimes and Porter, but both have barely played this year, if at all, due to injury - that's not a risk I would take for our starter going into next season. Starting OT's are rarely exposed to Free Agency, and if they are they cost about as much as Wide Receivers.

I decided to sign a receiver, Jennings (or Wallace, either would work) and draft an OT because this year's OT class is significantly stronger than the wide receiver class. Whereas Joeckel, Matthews, and Taylor Lewan are all pretty sure things - Justin Hunter, Keenan Allen, and Terrence Williams all raise various red flags. This draft doesn't have a Megatron/Fitz/Andre type receiver, or even someone with the hype of Blackmon.

IMO, given our needs and high position, this is the ideal draft to trade down if we can - but I wasn't going to mock that because it's too unpredictable.

If we drafted say Demarcus Milner in the 1st and Eric Fisher in the 2nd I would be happy. However, I do believe in BPA and, as annoyed as I am by all the 1st round O-linemen, I think Matthews is a better player than Milner. However, if we pick early enough, I'd be happy with 1) Damonte Moore (DE), 2a)Eric Fisher (OT), 2b) Desmond Trufant (CB). Actually, I think I like that better than my initial Mock.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 6:48 AM

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Gonzorot wrote: Honestly i know it hurts to lose but if we can lose the next 2 games we will have a pick between 5-10 in my opinion which is a great spot and optimal considering all the draft picks we will have.. This season i didn't expect much, NEXT SEASON I expect alot and for real this time no wishful thinking.. Tons of cap room lots of picks and a young core to add to.

Here is my draft if we pick at 6

1. Demontre Moore OLB Texas A&M Cam Wake needs another dominant pass rusher to open things up, If we add another great pass rusher we will have a top 10 defense imo.
I haven't watched too much gamefilm till the offseason but the numbers and explosivness isevident and he is a lock to go in the top10 and pick 6 is a perfect spot for him to land *Backup will be Manti Teo for value, Mingo for need.

2.Cordarelle Patterson Tennesee WR  complete WR with a very solid skill set across the board.. Great hands, good speed, good routes, good blocking, I think he can be very similar to hakeem nicks at the NFL level.. Perfect fit for what Philbin uses his WR's for.

2b.Zack Ertz- Stanford TE Im serious about getting some weapons on offense, This guy has a ton of upside and finding complete TE's in the draft is getting harder every year. He can block,Catch, and has good speed  Could be the next gronkowski type TE

3a.Baccari Rambo Georgia FS I like Rambo, who has had off the field Drug problems but has been a playmaker who lead the nation at safety in interceptions a  year ago. Not trying to run a choir i want to win and am willing to give this guy as well as Mathieu a chance to redeem himself.

3b. Xavier Nixon OT Florida- without a doubt we need someone to help out on the line and he offers the best skill set for the type of offense we run.. Very quick, Good in pass protection against speed rushers. * backup pick is Alex Hurst of LSU a mauler Lineman 340 pounds who  is good for the running game but not as quick.

4. Tyrann Mathieu CB I know it seems like this kid has problems and he does but he is doing the right thing moving away from LSU and moving in with Patrick Peterson's family to get his head on straight. I believe this kid is taking his career seriously now. The talent is there he is a tad undersized but at this juncture he is worth the risk.. New England made a similar move with Dennard that has payed off well.


Free Agency

Resign..

Randy Starks- the guy is our best dlineman and a very solid DT we cannot let him walk away for free

Sign a big money Left Tackle Jonathan Martin is a seive right now and was literally thrown around by aldon smith he may improve but he is far from ready to start at Tackle..we need to resign long or sign someone better.. People forget how bad our team was before we drafted Jake Long and i don't want to go back to our QB's having 2 seconds to throw before getting crushed.
I really like Moore in the 1st, because we really do need a pass rusher, but I don't think we can wait 'til round 4 to draft a corner when we so desperately need a starter. I also think the idea of bringing in two rookie's with drug/character concerns to south beach under Philbin's program is completely unrealistic and would be a recipe for disaster.

As for Starks, while he was a beast the first 8 games of the year, with an avg PFF rating of (+1.85), and has been actually pretty bad since then, with an avg of (-1.52) which will probably continue to drop after he was manhandled against San Francisco. He will get paid somewhere based on his early performance, and since Odrick fits well inside it makes much more sense to let him walk imo.

And Martin only gave up 1 sack and a few hurries to the league's top pass-rusher, which I can definitely live with at LT. He was clinging on for dear at points life, but he generally got the job done. He was a sieve on the right side, but actually plays pretty well on the left.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 9:04 AM

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Isn't the draft 5 months away?

If Ireland is pulling the strings what difference does it make?
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Posted: 12/10/2012 9:25 AM

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FreeWanny wrote: Isn't the draft 5 months away?

If Ireland is pulling the strings what difference does it make?

This, right here.  If Ireland is the man making the calls on personnel decisions it doesn't matter what anyone thinks.  Jennings, Wallace, Bowe etc will pass on Miami as a place to play or Ireland will try to lowball them.  The draft will be a wasted opportunity and we will be grumbling here this time next year about how there is a lack of talent at the skill positions, but wow our D-line is playing really well lol

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Posted: 12/10/2012 9:38 AM

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Jschwald wrote:

Ok, I figure given the cap space and amount of Free Agents we will have, a mock draft isn’t going to cut it, so I’m putting together a mock offseason. This involves which Free Agents we let walk, and who we resign – as well as who we target in Free Agency. I have estimated the 2013 salary for all of my targets, and believe I have been reasonable/conservative. It also contains a 3 round 2013 Dolphins mock draft. This is working off of the projected $45 million estimate we will have to work with. Here you go:

 

Resigned Free Agents (in order of priority):

($8 million) Sean Smith – underachieving & inconsistent, but the best of our lacklustre CBs, and has the skill set to be elite. This is less about resigning Smith and more about not losing our one mediocre corner.

($ 5 million) Brian Hartline – A very solid option at WR, will break 1000 yards

($2 million) Chris Clemons – Ok starting safety, getting better. Has developed a lot under Coyle, and consistency at the back will be big for us. Shouldn’t be too expensive.

($3 million) Tony McDaniel – Provides solid depth at DT. Shouldn’t be too expensive.

 

Let them walk:

Jake Long – too expensive, injury prone, skill deteriorating.

Randy Starks – play has really dropped off 2nd half of the season, will be looking for big money. Odrick can be moved inside where he fits better.

Anthony Fasano – solid blocker, but not a true receiving threat outside of the red zone. Play has dropped off recently.

Reggie Bush – inconsistent, dances too much.  Good leader but will follow the $. Miller deserves more carries.

 

Free Agent Targets (in order of priority):

($9 million) Greg Jennings, WR, Green Bay – Big, fast, not a true burner but can get deep. Familiar with Philbin.

($6 million) Jared Cook, TE, Tennessee – Athletic, seam threat could open up the middle

 ($4 million) LB and ST Depth – I don’t know enough about reserve players, but this is the other major area of need and I expect Ireland to spend here in Free Agency.

 

2013 draft ($6 million):

1) Jake Matthews – OT, Texas A&M. Plug and Play RT, solidifies the line. Definitely our biggest need if Jake walks.

2a) Jordan Poyer – CB, Oregon State. All-American cover corner will enable us to play man coverage, taking advantage of Smith’s skill set.

2b) Margus Hunt – DE, SMU. Physical specimen, raw and improving. Solid pass-rusher & getting better. NCAA record-holder for blocked kicks.

3a) Logan Ryan – CB, Rutgers. Very good cover corner, though hasn’t played against elite competition. It's a good idea to double down on rookie corners if expecting one to start.

3b) Ryan Swope – WR, Texas A&M. Was Tannehill’s favorite target, though he projects more as a slot guy.


What do you guys think? I’d love some feedback, as this was several hours of research and work, aka procrastination.

Nice job. I agree with almost everything except letting Starks walk.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 9:42 AM

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Yeah, I'd rather sign Starks and let McDaniel walk, AND I would rather see Miami take a playmaking TE or WR instead of the DE from SMU or the Corner from Oregon State.  The D has been playing well enough to win games and though I agree we still have holes in the secondary and Wake could use a guy or two opposite of him to balance out the pass rush, I don't think they are as critical as getting weapons for the offense.  I also don't think ANY of the big name WR or TE Free Agents will sign here.  Jennings included.  A lot of players won't come here because that idiot running the show (Ireland) has a poisoned image in the eyes of a lot of players around the league.

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Posted: 12/10/2012 10:11 AM

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You may be right about not being able to lure a FA Wideout because of Ireland, and if that's the case then we definitely have to go for an offensive playmaker instead of the Hunt or Poyer. If we can manage to score Jennings or Wallace then I think we can focus on other areas in the 1st 2 rounds. I didn't want to both sign Cook and draft a TE like Ertz, because if Egnew actually does develop we'll have an overload there much like we did at HB this season, and if he doesn't Clay can man the #2 TE spot next year.

Also, as for Starks over McDaniel, I totally agree that Starks is a much better player. But I think he'll be looking for big $$ due to his huge first half of the season, and for an older DT who's play dropped off I'm wary of paying him big money when Odrick is so well suited to the inside. But I do totally understand where you (and Tour) are coming from on that front.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 11:33 AM

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Jschwald wrote:
Gonzorot wrote: Honestly i know it hurts to lose but if we can lose the next 2 games we will have a pick between 5-10 in my opinion which is a great spot and optimal considering all the draft picks we will have.. This season i didn't expect much, NEXT SEASON I expect alot and for real this time no wishful thinking.. Tons of cap room lots of picks and a young core to add to.

Here is my draft if we pick at 6

1. Demontre Moore OLB Texas A&M Cam Wake needs another dominant pass rusher to open things up, If we add another great pass rusher we will have a top 10 defense imo.
I haven't watched too much gamefilm till the offseason but the numbers and explosivness isevident and he is a lock to go in the top10 and pick 6 is a perfect spot for him to land *Backup will be Manti Teo for value, Mingo for need.

2.Cordarelle Patterson Tennesee WR  complete WR with a very solid skill set across the board.. Great hands, good speed, good routes, good blocking, I think he can be very similar to hakeem nicks at the NFL level.. Perfect fit for what Philbin uses his WR's for.

2b.Zack Ertz- Stanford TE Im serious about getting some weapons on offense, This guy has a ton of upside and finding complete TE's in the draft is getting harder every year. He can block,Catch, and has good speed  Could be the next gronkowski type TE

3a.Baccari Rambo Georgia FS I like Rambo, who has had off the field Drug problems but has been a playmaker who lead the nation at safety in interceptions a  year ago. Not trying to run a choir i want to win and am willing to give this guy as well as Mathieu a chance to redeem himself.

3b. Xavier Nixon OT Florida- without a doubt we need someone to help out on the line and he offers the best skill set for the type of offense we run.. Very quick, Good in pass protection against speed rushers. * backup pick is Alex Hurst of LSU a mauler Lineman 340 pounds who  is good for the running game but not as quick.

4. Tyrann Mathieu CB I know it seems like this kid has problems and he does but he is doing the right thing moving away from LSU and moving in with Patrick Peterson's family to get his head on straight. I believe this kid is taking his career seriously now. The talent is there he is a tad undersized but at this juncture he is worth the risk.. New England made a similar move with Dennard that has payed off well.


Free Agency

Resign..

Randy Starks- the guy is our best dlineman and a very solid DT we cannot let him walk away for free

Sign a big money Left Tackle Jonathan Martin is a seive right now and was literally thrown around by aldon smith he may improve but he is far from ready to start at Tackle..we need to resign long or sign someone better.. People forget how bad our team was before we drafted Jake Long and i don't want to go back to our QB's having 2 seconds to throw before getting crushed.
I really like Moore in the 1st, because we really do need a pass rusher, but I don't think we can wait 'til round 4 to draft a corner when we so desperately need a starter. I also think the idea of bringing in two rookie's with drug/character concerns to south beach under Philbin's program is completely unrealistic and would be a recipe for disaster.

As for Starks, while he was a beast the first 8 games of the year, with an avg PFF rating of (+1.85), and has been actually pretty bad since then, with an avg of (-1.52) which will probably continue to drop after he was manhandled against San Francisco. He will get paid somewhere based on his early performance, and since Odrick fits well inside it makes much more sense to let him walk imo.

And Martin only gave up 1 sack and a few hurries to the league's top pass-rusher, which I can definitely live with at LT. He was clinging on for dear at points life, but he generally got the job done. He was a sieve on the right side, but actually plays pretty well on the left.
I like the idea behind this draft order, though I really don't want waste a 4th rounder on Honeybadger just to watch him drug out of the league.  I've already said I like what I see in Cordell, and I think this order fits our priorities.  Our pash rush isn't too bad when you consider the 37 sacks we have this years, but it's entirely based off wake.  I think getting a little more consistency will help force teams into more protect packages and overall help our secondary.  

Combine this draft with a FA pickup of a guy like Jennings or Wallace and I think our offense can start to finally grow.  With a QB as accurate as RT, giving him more options to throw to can only help.  Of course, they'll have to start calling more than just 5 yard out/in/turn routes for everyone.  

And considering what I've seen Smith do to some teams, I think we owe Martin some give on what was a serviceable job.
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DolphinFanCA wrote:
Jschwald wrote:
Gonzorot wrote: Honestly i know it hurts to lose but if we can lose the next 2 games we will have a pick between 5-10 in my opinion which is a great spot and optimal considering all the draft picks we will have.. This season i didn't expect much, NEXT SEASON I expect alot and for real this time no wishful thinking.. Tons of cap room lots of picks and a young core to add to.

Here is my draft if we pick at 6

1. Demontre Moore OLB Texas A&M Cam Wake needs another dominant pass rusher to open things up, If we add another great pass rusher we will have a top 10 defense imo.
I haven't watched too much gamefilm till the offseason but the numbers and explosivness isevident and he is a lock to go in the top10 and pick 6 is a perfect spot for him to land *Backup will be Manti Teo for value, Mingo for need.

2.Cordarelle Patterson Tennesee WR  complete WR with a very solid skill set across the board.. Great hands, good speed, good routes, good blocking, I think he can be very similar to hakeem nicks at the NFL level.. Perfect fit for what Philbin uses his WR's for.

2b.Zack Ertz- Stanford TE Im serious about getting some weapons on offense, This guy has a ton of upside and finding complete TE's in the draft is getting harder every year. He can block,Catch, and has good speed  Could be the next gronkowski type TE

3a.Baccari Rambo Georgia FS I like Rambo, who has had off the field Drug problems but has been a playmaker who lead the nation at safety in interceptions a  year ago. Not trying to run a choir i want to win and am willing to give this guy as well as Mathieu a chance to redeem himself.

3b. Xavier Nixon OT Florida- without a doubt we need someone to help out on the line and he offers the best skill set for the type of offense we run.. Very quick, Good in pass protection against speed rushers. * backup pick is Alex Hurst of LSU a mauler Lineman 340 pounds who  is good for the running game but not as quick.

4. Tyrann Mathieu CB I know it seems like this kid has problems and he does but he is doing the right thing moving away from LSU and moving in with Patrick Peterson's family to get his head on straight. I believe this kid is taking his career seriously now. The talent is there he is a tad undersized but at this juncture he is worth the risk.. New England made a similar move with Dennard that has payed off well.


Free Agency

Resign..

Randy Starks- the guy is our best dlineman and a very solid DT we cannot let him walk away for free

Sign a big money Left Tackle Jonathan Martin is a seive right now and was literally thrown around by aldon smith he may improve but he is far from ready to start at Tackle..we need to resign long or sign someone better.. People forget how bad our team was before we drafted Jake Long and i don't want to go back to our QB's having 2 seconds to throw before getting crushed.
I really like Moore in the 1st, because we really do need a pass rusher, but I don't think we can wait 'til round 4 to draft a corner when we so desperately need a starter. I also think the idea of bringing in two rookie's with drug/character concerns to south beach under Philbin's program is completely unrealistic and would be a recipe for disaster.

As for Starks, while he was a beast the first 8 games of the year, with an avg PFF rating of (+1.85), and has been actually pretty bad since then, with an avg of (-1.52) which will probably continue to drop after he was manhandled against San Francisco. He will get paid somewhere based on his early performance, and since Odrick fits well inside it makes much more sense to let him walk imo.

And Martin only gave up 1 sack and a few hurries to the league's top pass-rusher, which I can definitely live with at LT. He was clinging on for dear at points life, but he generally got the job done. He was a sieve on the right side, but actually plays pretty well on the left.
I like the idea behind this draft order, though I really don't want waste a 4th rounder on Honeybadger just to watch him drug out of the league.  I've already said I like what I see in Cordell, and I think this order fits our priorities.  Our pash rush isn't too bad when you consider the 37 sacks we have this years, but it's entirely based off wake.  I think getting a little more consistency will help force teams into more protect packages and overall help our secondary.  

Combine this draft with a FA pickup of a guy like Jennings or Wallace and I think our offense can start to finally grow.  With a QB as accurate as RT, giving him more options to throw to can only help.  Of course, they'll have to start calling more than just 5 yard out/in/turn routes for everyone.  

And considering what I've seen Smith do to some teams, I think we owe Martin some give on what was a serviceable job.
The thing that is scary is imagine what wake could do if he had another guy opposite him who can force protection his way, Wake would have even matchups which he always wins or an OPEN hole to the QB.. I think with that and Signing a Good CB in Free Agency would take our defense to an elite San Francisco type defense.

Not only that "What would happen if wake got hurt" There would go our entire pass rush.

I do like Vernon but i still think getting a dominant pass rusher would make our line unstoppable.. 2 dominant pass rushers and solai , starks clogging up the middle runs.  Yeah without a doubt would be the best dline in the league.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 2:54 PM

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I don't like Ireland but THIS HAS TO BE his very last chance and i don't think he will lowball people with 40 or 50 million in capspace this offseason.. He has no reason to lowball free agents with that much space and his job on the line.. Players could care less about if they like the GM... Money talks and we can offer it

I would do the draft i posted and do sign just 3 free agents..

1. Resign Starks is a must, Starks and Solai basically shut down all runs up the middle. I think they have tapered off a little because or team is not contending and the effort goes down but if we can get our offense to match the play of our defense they will dominate

2.Sign a Left Tackle doesnt have to be Jake Long but that is arguably the most important piece of an offense.. We must sign the best LT that is out there to protect tannehill because Jonathan Martin Cannot play LT next year.

3.Sign a CB after resigning sean smith- Its important to sign a CB opposite Sean Smith to take our defense to the next level.. I still havent forgotten the Indy game and even before that they were getting TORCHED with Richard Marshall out there. Its pathetic when you can't stop a team on 3 and 11, 3rd and 15 continually.

4. Not a big priority but bring in but if we have the room bring in a safety to push Clemons and Jones.

That would be my free agency plan.
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Posted: 12/10/2012 8:39 PM

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If we don't draft a WR in the 1st round, I think a DE makes a lot of sense.  Instead of trying to cover up a weakness, let's take a strength and make it even stronger.  We still need to address the CB position but we could have a great defense with another guy who can get pressure.
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WR and TE with our first couple picks. Maybe even double up on WR. This team has struggled to long to score points.
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Posted: 12/16/2012 10:00 PM

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Jschwald,

Nice thread & thoughts:

I would do 3 things differently:

1. Id start my draft with Mingo, slide Misi inside. Mingo would be the missing fit for our D to really scheme the hybrid. Think about it, Solai, Starks,Odrick 4/3 depends on whether wake has his hand in the dirt. We need a pass rusher that can pressure from the strongside. Mingo is a better cover man than he is being given credit for.

2. Dansby/ Solid year, maybe his best with US, id package him, right now, to baltimore with Jerry for a 2nd. 50% for cap flush. A 2nd is fair, & lots of teams gonna like Jerry in the powrr scheme. Fair Trade.

3, Jake. I believe a good GM could threaten Franchise & get a 1 & 3 for Jake to a contender. Not out of the question.
 
4. Id try getting a 4 for Moore, he wants to start.
Leaves me here:

45
+5  Marshall
-5   Richie
+8.5 Dansby
0     Long
-8    Smith
-5    Starks
-2    Clemons
-5    Hartline
0     Moore
0     Fasano  (Let him go)
-5    Bush
-1.5  McDaniel

28 million Cap Left

FA
1.  Wallace. -7
2.  Cromartie -10 10/30.  Takes a few years to develop corners.

11 million Cap remaining

DRAFT
1- Mingo OLB
1- Hunter  WR
2- Ertz TE
2- McDonald
2- Skov (falling here in alot of mocks, bring in behind Misi)
3- Aboushi
3- McFadden
3- Dobson
4- Cave C/G
4- Uzzi

Giving JL a chance to win now.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 4:36 AM

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mikdo wrote: Jschwald,

Nice thread & thoughts:

I would do 3 things differently:

1. Id start my draft with Mingo, slide Misi inside. Mingo would be the missing fit for our D to really scheme the hybrid. Think about it, Solai, Starks,Odrick 4/3 depends on whether wake has his hand in the dirt. We need a pass rusher that can pressure from the strongside. Mingo is a better cover man than he is being given credit for.

2. Dansby/ Solid year, maybe his best with US, id package him, right now, to baltimore with Jerry for a 2nd. 50% for cap flush. A 2nd is fair, & lots of teams gonna like Jerry in the powrr scheme. Fair Trade.

3, Jake. I believe a good GM could threaten Franchise & get a 1 & 3 for Jake to a contender. Not out of the question.
 
4. Id try getting a 4 for Moore, he wants to start.
Leaves me here:

45
+5  Marshall
-5   Richie
+8.5 Dansby
0     Long
-8    Smith
-5    Starks
-2    Clemons
-5    Hartline
0     Moore
0     Fasano  (Let him go)
-5    Bush
-1.5  McDaniel

28 million Cap Left

FA
1.  Wallace. -7
2.  Cromartie -10 10/30.  Takes a few years to develop corners.

11 million Cap remaining

DRAFT
1- Mingo OLB
1- Hunter  WR
2- Ertz TE
2- McDonald
2- Skov (falling here in alot of mocks, bring in behind Misi)
3- Aboushi
3- McFadden
3- Dobson
4- Cave C/G
4- Uzzi

Giving JL a chance to win now.
Nice mock draft and planning there, can't say i would disagree with that offseason except who the hell is Cave and Uzzi? lmao sounds like a Jeff Ireland draft special..  I would honestly take a shot on Mathieu in round 4 or possibly with our 2nd 3rd rounder.

I doubt seriously we can get Damontre Moore right now, I do like the idea of trading Dansby who isn't getting any younger and still put up a monster season statistically. I keep saying it SELL HIGH until we are contenders.  Slide Misi who is a great tackler to the inside would be an option or Burnett who has alot of experience at ILB also...

If we got rid of Dansby and if Manti Teo is available where we end up picking that would be a REALLY nice move. As great as it feels to see the dolphins winning games I almost wish we would lose so we can get Teo or Moore, Pretty much the most elite talents in the draft. I would say we split the remaning games is my feeling and finish 7-9 so that would put us about pick 10-15 which is probably just out of range to get Moore or Teo.

If we pick at 10-15 I would give serious looks to Justin Hunter and Keenan Allen both as well as Demarcus Milner,Mingo, and Alex Okafor.
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Posted: 12/17/2012 5:34 PM

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Top priority: seem busting TE or serious, fast WR.
Next: A corner to pair with SSmith.
#3- LT

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Posted: 12/17/2012 7:44 PM

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More important than a WR with serious speed is a WR who attacks the ball. We have WRs with speed, they can't catch and don't adjust to the ball. Resigning Hartline should be a priority. He may not be the sexy WR we want but he is the perfect compliment to the sexy WR we want. He made so many toe tapping sideline catches, he can beat DBs deep, he did have a nice season despite being the focal point of defenses, and its Irelands chance to finally sign a wr he drafted to a deserved long term deal. Hartline would be better if he had someone better or at least more dynamic lined up opposite him.

I do think if Tannehill continues to improve on his pocket awareness and mobility the need for cap killing LT is not neccasary. Teams win with them and teams win without them. Just because Cleo Lemon and the other terrible QBs we had prior to Jake Long got their backs broken doesn't mean you need him now. We have time to evaluate John Martin at LT and other far less expensive options. Long wasn't exactly looking like a franchise LT before his injury either.

Like everyone else says solid CB and pass rusher to compliment our current ones. Basically we need to compliment the talent we already have. We have good players at almost every positions just no great players aside from wake.

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Posted: 12/18/2012 8:19 AM

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Dstock, you didnt notice the comma in my sentencewink. I said serious (as in top level hands), fast receiver. I agree with you completely. This receiver has to be a #1. The seem busting top level TE can do something similar in terms of scheme. Bottom line, we have to have someone who forces a team to take a safety and double him every time. If we have single coverage on Hartline or Bess, then they become really dangerous. Bess could become our Welker underneath with a good #1. And Marshall wasnt my description. He was a #1, but more of a possession type.
dstock21 wrote: More important than a WR with serious speed is a WR who attacks the ball. We have WRs with speed, they can't catch and don't adjust to the ball. Resigning Hartline should be a priority. He may not be the sexy WR we want but he is the perfect compliment to the sexy WR we want. He made so many toe tapping sideline catches, he can beat DBs deep, he did have a nice season despite being the focal point of defenses, and its Irelands chance to finally sign a wr he drafted to a deserved long term deal. Hartline would be better if he had someone better or at least more dynamic lined up opposite him.

I do think if Tannehill continues to improve on his pocket awareness and mobility the need for cap killing LT is not neccasary. Teams win with them and teams win without them. Just because Cleo Lemon and the other terrible QBs we had prior to Jake Long got their backs broken doesn't mean you need him now. We have time to evaluate John Martin at LT and other far less expensive options. Long wasn't exactly looking like a franchise LT before his injury either.

Like everyone else says solid CB and pass rusher to compliment our current ones. Basically we need to compliment the talent we already have. We have good players at almost every positions just no great players aside from wake.

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