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If we let Long walk

Posted: 12/4/2012 8:04 AM

If we let Long walk 


Just a quick question on compensatory picks.  If we let him sign elsewhere would we get a pick and if so what round would it be?  I have never understood the compensatory pick thing.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 8:33 AM

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We would not be rewarded for picks from this years UFA class untill next year. Basically, the pick selection is based on how many UFA left the team vs how many signed, and the round selection is based on the size of the contracts.

Now that was befere the new CBA, not sure if its changed.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 1:42 PM

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Right now it's impossible to let Long walk.





We'd have to wheel him out in a wheelchair.



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Posted: 12/4/2012 2:24 PM

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Im certain we should be awarded compensatory picks for long but it would be awarded in 2014.  I think we should get some good picks for letting Langford,Merling,Bell, i would think we will get a 4th round pick this year (hoping anyways but it usually never happens)

If we let go of long and some of the other overpriced pieces we have remaining here i would think we could get a 3rd rounder in 2014 im hoping.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 4:21 PM

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Take the Stamp out of the drawer & stamp the franchise tag right on his forehead then flip him to baltimore for there #1 (end of 1st)
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Posted: 12/4/2012 4:40 PM

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Baltimore, or any other team, isn't trading any picks for a severely injury prone $15 million dollar 1 season LT.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 5:04 PM

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Jschwald wrote: Baltimore, or any other team, isn't trading any picks for a severely injury prone $15 million dollar 1 season LT.

Yeah I'm afraid that 1st rd draft pick ship has sailed.  He is now known as injury prone.  He's either ending up a free agent after contact expiration, or I can't see anything more than a 2nd round pick from someone somewhere.



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Posted: 12/4/2012 7:21 PM

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I just don't see why anyone would even trade a 2nd rounder. I can see why teams would sign him in Free Agency, but if we tagged him it makes too much sense for another team to spend literally 10% of the cost of Long and draft a 2nd round tackle without injury history and upside. Only Dan Snyder would pull that kind of move, but the Skins already spent all their picks trading up for RG3.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 7:25 PM

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It sucks that our one franchise player we drafted since Jason Taylor is injury prone and wasn't looking all that great before his latest injury either. Any ideas of getting him cheap are not likely to happen either because some idiot will pay him what his agent feels he is worth. One thing nobody has mentioned here is we did draft a LT this year in the 2nd round. Even though he has played RT all year he is going to get his chance to play LT the rest of the season. If he holds up against the 9er, Jags, Bills and Pats then we can afford to let Jake walk and save a ton of money.
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Posted: 12/4/2012 7:40 PM

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Sometimes theres Value to others whrn u dont see it- If u worked out a trade, new team would restructure it wouldnt cost Franchise Tag with a 3-4 year FM deal. It can be done, but its tricky. Long does have a no=trade i believe. Maybe Ireland should start hanging out with Loria

Theres teams that would rather sign a relatively young, a good 3-4 years left, experienced, former 1-1, prototype size, & with the media tag Pro Bolwer as opposed to taking a shot on say an Aboushi in the 2nd. When a 2nd rounder doesnt make it, remember its not just the contract cost/ or savings/ its that u end up losing games. With Long u would pretty much know what your getting

Indy needs him, there not gonna draft good enough to pick up a quality tackle, ^ we own there 2nd, If u were Indy, youd think about giving your 1, mayve not
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Posted: 12/4/2012 9:20 PM

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well I tried to say this when we drafted him we spent so muchmooney on him that we cant get a skill player that can make difference. I hope I never hear another dolphin fan cry for a olineman in round one Jimmy Johnson was right and the dolphins should have proven him right when we didnt take a skill player with the first rd pick plus most teams were laughing because we over paid for him .

I pray that miami willl wise up and start taking the best player available instead of need only.

THE theory of picking a player who never touches the ball in rd one has come back to bite us in the ss.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 4:24 AM

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If only Wannstadt was a GM somewhere we could probably get two 1 st rd picks.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 5:18 AM

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SF is considered one of the best teams in football and I think every one of their Olineman is a 1st or 2nd round pick. Maybe its not the best position to go #1 overall but you need good Olineman.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 8:14 AM

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dstock21 wrote: SF is considered one of the best teams in football and I think every one of their Olineman is a 1st or 2nd round pick. Maybe its not the best position to go #1 overall but you need good Olineman.


I agree with this.  I wouldn't take an OL in the top 10 and definitely not with the 1st pick but I have no problem taking one towards the bottom half of the 1st round.  It's hard to argue with the Mike Pouncey pick.  He is a stud.

In today's NFL, a pass rusher or QB is more important that 1 OL.  The old salary structure guaranteed too much money to 1 person on the OL.  You need to have a 5 solid to good guys as defenses attack from everywhere.  

The Packers, Patriots, Steelers, 9ers and Ravens have all taken multiple OL in the 1st round.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 8:36 AM

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it all starts with a changing of the guard at the top.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 10:25 AM

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FreeWanny wrote: it all starts with a changing of the guard at the top.
I think Incognito and Jerry are the least of our worries.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 11:03 AM

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Jschwald wrote:
FreeWanny wrote: it all starts with a changing of the guard at the top.
I think Incognito and Jerry are the least of our worries.
haha i think he was refering to the GM Scwald.

Yeah I do like what philbin has done on offense, Im just not sure we have the players for the system we run.. I agree with wanny that we have let go of young talented players far too early on the oline that is starting somewhere else.

Samson Satele has been a starter everywhere he has been and was a very underrated pulling center i would love to still  have, but good old sparano had to go get some guy named Jake Grove.
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Posted: 12/5/2012 1:21 PM

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I've grown tired of hearing we need a change at the top, Seahawks use to be a S. Fla team maybe the change you get is not exactly the one you want. Dolphins need to start to worry about attendence at the games..

Still think the draft was good and even tho I was not one of the Tannehill likers from the start and still not sure if he will pan out it was the right move to make, need to double down if possible and take another this year, not with the 1st unless its someone special but with 1 of 2nd or 3rd round picks, we really can't afford for Tannehill to be a bust or even an average NFL QB we need a top 5 QB here to start to win games again.

Starting to think Washington did the right thing in giving up all those picks for RG3...but dstill don't think we could of out bid them for him...

Allso starting to think we had the right school to get our QB from it was just the wrong year, but the kid is a red shirt freshman and even if he wins the Heisman he's still back to Texas AM next year..
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Posted: 12/5/2012 3:56 PM

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dougb123 wrote: 

Allso starting to think we had the right school to get our QB from it was just the wrong year, but the kid is a red shirt freshman and even if he wins the Heisman he's still back to Texas AM next year..
Don't worry,  the odds are in our favor of being in position to draft Johnny Football in 2014.
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Posted: 12/7/2012 1:29 PM

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birdmond wrote:
dougb123 wrote: 

Allso starting to think we had the right school to get our QB from it was just the wrong year, but the kid is a red shirt freshman and even if he wins the Heisman he's still back to Texas AM next year..
Don't worry,  the odds are in our favor of being in position to draft Johnny Football in 2014.
Really?  You can predict what is going to happen to this team and Ryan Tannehill 2 drafts from now?  If you have such little faith in the team and the new starting QB why do you even bother pretending to care?

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