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Coming "back off the ledge"

Posted: 11/13/2012 10:55 PM

Coming "back off the ledge" 


Hello all! Hoping to start a post where I don't sound like a blithering idiot, like I did last Sunday! A lot of you have said things that make sense since then, this is football not life, it's only so important. Not really that important at all! I think some of us, I know me let it get to us do much because life can be so hard & this gives us something to look forward too, and losing hurts! My frustration began in 1984, as a 14 year old kid having a really rough childhood watching my hero Dan Marino walking off the field in defeat after supe bowl. I never would have dreamed he would never make it back!! Then the 85 championship game, getting rocked by the patriots. Them 1986-89, awful years! A good 1990, but a loss to the bills in the playoffs. Then watching another AFC championship defeat, to the bills In 1992, marino's last. Then watching the browns game in1993, looking on in horror as marino went down. I had tickets to see nay first live game the next week, he hadn't missed a start since his rookie year, I could not believe it. I went to the game anyway, Scott Mitchell performed admirably, final on that Sunday night fins 41 colts 27. Best recover on the league that year after Leon lett gave us a miracle on thanksgiving on the snow In Dallas. Then watching the season end in new England in overtime. Not another win that season. Then 1994, 21-6 over the chargers at the half in the playoffs, them watching it all come apart in the second half. Marino's chances were dwindling. Then there was 1995, the dream team, 27 former first round picks, everybody predicted a world championship. Game 1, a 52-14 ripping of the jests. There were 2 other contenders in the AFC that year, pats & steelers, week 2 we handled the pats 20-7 on foxboro, then week 3, 23-10 over steelers on MNF. We were on our way!!! Week 4 close one, 26-23 over bengals. Week 5 magical first half against colts. 24-3 at the half, Marino broke one of the many records he broke that year. They it happened. For some reason they folded their tent in that locker room. Lost the game 27-24. I will never forget the next game as the clock was running out against the lowly saints, down 19-17, the announcer said " the Miami dolphins went into the locker room at halftime of their game last week, & haven't been seen since" 9-7 season, backed into last plafof spot. Destroyed in first round, crazy. Then came jimmy Johnson, he could turn anything around! Then watching him and marino leave field in Jacksonville in 1999, 62-7 loss, Marino & Johnson's last game. Total failure, then saban, another savior! Another high profile coach who could do nothing with this team! Them 1-15, so forth, so on. All the failed quarterbacks, coaches, players. I finally snapped, I guess. 37-3 against the lowly titans, I was starting to believe In philbin, tannehill, heck even players Like Nolan Carroll were playing better. In an instant they looked like so many failed teams from the past. But again, I can't just go away, it's a part of me, I can't change that Evel if I want to! I'll take some advice I got, watch from a distance for awhile, and continue to hope that one day before I die, they will win the big one!!
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Posted: 11/14/2012 1:23 AM

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Honestly just don't make the expectations too high this season, We all knew it was a rebuilding year and we were treated to a pleasant surprise early on.

Now we are getting hit with a dose of reality, Tannenhill is a rookie QB who is going to have some terrible games. He is getting invaluable experience and i think he has exceeded all expectations thus far into the year.

The one thing i would really like to see is our secondary step up, Cause Sean Smith,Clemons, and Jones arent rookies anymore and if they can't show they are capable we are going to have to clean house next year and go after secondary players next season.
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Posted: 11/14/2012 8:26 AM

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Gonzorot wrote: Honestly just don't make the expectations too high this season, We all knew it was a rebuilding year and we were treated to a pleasant surprise early on.

Now we are getting hit with a dose of reality, Tannenhill is a rookie QB who is going to have some terrible games. He is getting invaluable experience and i think he has exceeded all expectations thus far into the year.

The one thing i would really like to see is our secondary step up, Cause Sean Smith,Clemons, and Jones arent rookies anymore and if they can't show they are capable we are going to have to clean house next year and go after secondary players next season.

I think Clemons needs to be replaced.  If Smith and Jones had a better supporting cast, they are good enough to make our secondary work.
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Posted: 11/14/2012 8:38 AM

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Oh, I agree. Possibly smith & maybe jones Have shown enough to be retained. But the rest are clueless. Them you look at the o line. Looked great early on, all of the sudden can't block unless they are holding, then still give up a sack usually, no run blocking. Pouncey seems to be the only one who is consistent, long is having his worst year and I can't stand incognito. At Least Jerry & Martin avoid a lot of stupid penalties. Even if they can't block too well. And I have been amazed by how Hartline has stepped up, bess as always is solid, but we do Need Atleast one of not two top notch receivers. And to me our starting linebackers are mediocre at best and there is no depth behind them. Maybe I'm being too critical of that group. It just seems to me the only unit we are really set at is d line, if we keep Starks, and their play has fallen way off here lately. I guess we will see.
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Posted: 11/14/2012 3:50 PM

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I'm tired of everyone defending Sean Smith... This guy has ZERO ball skills! ZERO!!! He has been put in the proper position time and time again and cant make a frickin play. And when he gets beat he has that deer in the headlights look on his face... I dont want to see that crap, I want to see anger and determination! Sorry but this guy is garbage. And I dont want to here how "good" he was the first 4 games either. Cause this is a what have you done for me lately league, and lately he hasnt done shmit!
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Posted: 11/14/2012 4:23 PM

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Posted: 11/14/2012 4:28 PM

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DAN61361 wrote: I'm tired of everyone defending Sean Smith... This guy has ZERO ball skills! ZERO!!! He has been put in the proper position time and time again and cant make a frickin play. And when he gets beat he has that deer in the headlights look on his face... I dont want to see that crap, I want to see anger and determination! Sorry but this guy is garbage. And I dont want to here how "good" he was the first 4 games either. Cause this is a what have you done for me lately league, and lately he hasnt done shmit!
My new hero biggrin.

Sean "hands of stone" Smith could have single hand-idly won the Indy game. But he choked.
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Posted: 11/14/2012 4:41 PM

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birdmond wrote:
DAN61361 wrote: I'm tired of everyone defending Sean Smith... This guy has ZERO ball skills! ZERO!!! He has been put in the proper position time and time again and cant make a frickin play. And when he gets beat he has that deer in the headlights look on his face... I dont want to see that crap, I want to see anger and determination! Sorry but this guy is garbage. And I dont want to here how "good" he was the first 4 games either. Cause this is a what have you done for me lately league, and lately he hasnt done shmit!
My new hero biggrin.

Sean "hands of stone" Smith could have single hand-idly won the Indy game. But he choked.

My issue with Smith is there's a reason why he's in all of these positions to pick off all those passes that he drops.  He's there because he's able to cover well.  He just can't ever catch the friggin' pick, let alone a cold.  It's frustrating.



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Posted: 11/14/2012 5:39 PM

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Thanks for the welcome back, dolphinfanca! I just hope after buffalo Thursday night, I'm not taking a head first dive right back off! Lol!
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Posted: 11/14/2012 6:10 PM

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Smith is not as good as Omar Kelly thinks he is but he is the best we have now. He does have some talent and good days where he go's against there best reciever but he has equal or better bad days were he doesn't seem to be able to cover anyone.

I was hoping the hiring of Kevin Coyle would help improve our secondary it hasn't. As good as our front 4 are at stopping the run we don't seem to be able to get enough pressure on opposing QB's to knock them out of there rhythm if they get going.

The offense line is equal as troubling as the secondary, beginning of the year they came out kicking butt, the last 3 or 4 games have really sucked and its kind of hard to get a good read on Tannehill when he constantly picking himself up off the ground.

Tannehill is not a threat to take off and run with the ball... why not???
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Posted: 11/14/2012 6:21 PM

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I cannot figure out why Tannehill has yet to display his vaunted athletic abilities. Just give the defense something else to worry about. This is what has disappointed me the most at this point. I'm not asking Tannehill to be RG III but even Aron Rodgers makes defenses pay with his legs.
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Posted: 11/15/2012 9:41 AM

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GAPHINFAN wrote: Thanks for the welcome back, dolphinfanca! I just hope after buffalo Thursday night, I'm not taking a head first dive right back off! Lol!

Welcome back!

I'm only 22, and can only remember us being in one playoff game (got killed by the Ravens).  I can barely remember Marino playing.  Don't feel bad, all I know is us losing.  I remember getting real upset anytime we lost when I was younger, but I try not to get upset over something I can't control.





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Posted: 11/15/2012 10:16 AM

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Yeah, my wife bought me tickets to the playoff game against Baltimore in 08. She bought them before we played the last game against the jests to ensure good seats. They were a belated Christmas present. We sweated through the jests game until the end. Then were estatic when we won. But I do have great memories. 1981-1985 were fun years. Division champs each year, 2 super bowl appearances, a lot of memorable wins. The worst record we had during that stretch was 11-4-1 in 81. Unless you count 82 when a strike shortened the season and our regular season record was 7-2. Then the 3 playoff wins, and carrying a 17-13 lead over the Redskins into the 4th qtr, before it fell apart. The downfall started in 86. An 8-8 season. And I thought that was bad. It's just real hard to believe that since 1985, we have appeared in only one AFC title game, and that was in 1992. The phins were such a proud organization. Through the 70's & early 80's. It's been 26 years of next to nothing!! A few bright spots. 2000 season 11-5, division champs and our last playoff win. A stirring come from behind OT win over payton manning and the colts. 12 year, our last playoff win. Amazing!! Almost every team has had their moment in the sun over that 26 year period. I cannot believe we have not. It's not that they did not try, jimmy Johnson & nick Saban were supposed top notch coaches brought in, who gave up in humiliation. I think a lot of it was trying to draft players with "potential" that could be "coached up" to be top notch players to save money. But I could be wrong, I honestly don't know what the problem is. But it just seems like it will never get better.
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Posted: 11/15/2012 11:44 AM

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GAPHINFAN wrote: Yeah, my wife bought me tickets to the playoff game against Baltimore in 08. She bought them before we played the last game against the jests to ensure good seats. They were a belated Christmas present. We sweated through the jests game until the end. Then were estatic when we won. But I do have great memories. 1981-1985 were fun years. Division champs each year, 2 super bowl appearances, a lot of memorable wins. The worst record we had during that stretch was 11-4-1 in 81. Unless you count 82 when a strike shortened the season and our regular season record was 7-2. Then the 3 playoff wins, and carrying a 17-13 lead over the Redskins into the 4th qtr, before it fell apart. The downfall started in 86. An 8-8 season. And I thought that was bad. It's just real hard to believe that since 1985, we have appeared in only one AFC title game, and that was in 1992. The phins were such a proud organization. Through the 70's & early 80's. It's been 26 years of next to nothing!! A few bright spots. 2000 season 11-5, division champs and our last playoff win. A stirring come from behind OT win over payton manning and the colts. 12 year, our last playoff win. Amazing!! Almost every team has had their moment in the sun over that 26 year period. I cannot believe we have not. It's not that they did not try, jimmy Johnson & nick Saban were supposed top notch coaches brought in, who gave up in humiliation. I think a lot of it was trying to draft players with "potential" that could be "coached up" to be top notch players to save money. But I could be wrong, I honestly don't know what the problem is. But it just seems like it will never get better.
I hear ya, GAPHINFAN.  Most here that've been around a while already know my story, but I became a Dolphin fan as a child watching AJ Duhe open up a can of whoop-arse on Todd and then the Riggins Bowl heartache.  Dan Marino was drafted and I became a die-hard Dolphin for the rest of my life.  Dan The Man 13 will forever be my favorite sports icon ever. AJ Duhe had to take a close 2nd (sorry 77), alongside Duper & Clayton.

I've never felt yet what it's like as a fan to win a Super Bowl. And while it's never really been the same since Dan retired, I still have that drive every year to see it happen.  I've been exactly there where you are at, and while still having that drive, just refocussed priorities a bit on the bigger picture and more important things in life.  Which basically means the team still pisses me off, but just for not as long. LOL.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 12:36 PM

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Yeah Marx8385, as a kid I threw fits when they lost. This Sunday was the first time in years I let them get me that upset! I thought, I go to work everyday, but my rear & still can't pay my bills, you guys are playing Like you realty don't care, if I took one day at work like I didn't care, I would get canned! I played football through high school, I understand momentum, being flat, etc. and what I really think happened Is the titans were called out by their owner, and cane in ticked & ready to play. The fins thought the titans just sucked, & had given up & came in flat, this was gonna be handed to then by the titans. A couple of mistakes and the game is out of control. The titans are not as bad as they had been Playing, the fins are not as bad as they played sunday. Same 2 teams tonight, probably no way it is a titan blowout. Dont know why I snapped over this game, bad week, who knows, it really is not that important. As a kid it meant everything to me, I had a rough childhood. Football, especially the fins was my escape. As an adult, I am now older than all the players, they are not my heroes anymore, but I still get into it! The one thing in life I wanted to accomplish in life I have no control over is to see the fins win a super bowl. In 84 at 14 years old when they walked off the field after the 49ers beat them, if you told me when you are 42 the find still will not have one the big one, will not even get back, I would have told you you were crazy! Now I realize it just ain't gonna happen. Dows it really matter, no. Every other goal are life goals. Would much rather achieve those! But in a small way it does matter! The find helped me get through some rough times as a kid. Guess it does not hurt to dream!!
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Posted: 11/15/2012 12:55 PM

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Hey, don't be me wrong, I still get upset when they lose, but it passes quickly, and I still hope beyond hope that they make it and win the big game in my lifetime.  I just don't let it consume me or ruin my entire day or week if they lose is all.

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Posted: 11/15/2012 1:10 PM

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Well put Dantes! It is funny now, but wasn't on Sunday! I was yelling, throwing things, my kids looked at me like I was crazy, my wife called me an idiot, deservedly so, the dog ran out of the house & didn't come back till monday, it got ugly!!!! Just ain't worth all that!
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Posted: 11/15/2012 2:31 PM

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I'm old enough to remember the 1970's when we were one of the better teams in the NFL. I allways thought we would of won a couple more superbowls if it wasn't for the USFL...It's been a long time and a lot of football been played since..Dan got us close a couple of times. I think it's harder now days to put a winning team on the field..I love football and if we lose it certainly can ruin my mood but I try not to let it, after all it is just football.
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Posted: 11/15/2012 2:44 PM

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I definitely wish I could have been born a little earlier. Would have loved to be able to remember the 71-74 seasons. Must have been great! My dad told me all about it. He was a huge Shula fan, so he followed him from the colts to the phins. He is from & lives in North Carolina. When the panthers came in the league he eventually started pulling for them. But that 84 season was something. Everybody knew Dan was gonna throw it on every down & still could not stop him! So exciting to watch! Well, until the super bowl that is. Lol!
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Posted: 11/15/2012 3:01 PM

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GAPHINFAN wrote: I definitely wish I could have been born a little earlier. Would have loved to be able to remember the 71-74 seasons. Must have been great! My dad told me all about it. He was a huge Shula fan, so he followed him from the colts to the phins. He is from & lives in North Carolina. When the panthers came in the league he eventually started pulling for them. But that 84 season was something. Everybody knew Dan was gonna throw it on every down & still could not stop him! So exciting to watch! Well, until the super bowl that is. Lol!
I still really don't know wtf happened in that super bowl.  I really don't. My vision of it starting so well, and then Dan getting blitzed and sacked a lot, and that I really hated Joe Montana afterwards.  LOL.  And I really wanted Dan to use his pass accuracy skills and drill that diet pepsi off the back of Joe's head with a quick release. LOL.  http://youtu.be/EYi7W5nB80s

No, I'm not still bitter about that game.  Not at all, why do you ask?  tonguebiggrin



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