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What upsets me the most
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Posted: 11/2/2009 1:36 AM
What upsets me the most
about Favre was his classless victory celebrations along the sidelines. I mean cmon, you've kicked our asses and now you're rubbing our faces in it. I don't mean TT and MM I mean the Packer fans who lived and died with him fo 16 years. I thought it wasn't about revenge? And that hypocritical act of showing concern for Jennings along the sideline in the forth quarter? cmon, just go into the HOF as a Vikings!
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Posted: 11/2/2009 1:43 AM
Re: What upsets me the most
Fans along the sidelines boo the guy who rebuilt their house and gave them EVERYTHING for 16 seasons, then was told he wasn't good enough any longer, but couldn't choose his own exit, and must go to the worst team in the AFC if he wants to still play. Booing people, along the sidelines, displaying respect for Favre by booing him all afternoon, were dissed by his classless display of emotion at winning a game on HIS home sod - the sod his merchandising sales and ticket revenues paid for. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!!!!!! 
Yeah, the logic is impecable, I can't imagine how he could have been so low-rent. 
What upsets you is the fact you chose the wrong side in this dogfight and the Packers didn't win, allowing YOU to rub it in the faces of US who said WE TOLD YOU SO. Yer one hella Packerbacker and loyal acolyte buddy.
GO PACK!
Last edited 11/2/2009 1:49 AM by HYATT
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Posted: 11/2/2009 1:58 AM
RE: What upsets me the most
Bignutz - one question for you....ARE YOU SERIOUS?
I swear when the Favre haters can't b**ch about his bad play or int's they find something to cut him down...unbelievable. It's like you people put Brett on the same level as rapists and terrorists. What a worthless post.
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Posted: 11/2/2009 1:58 AM
Re: What upsets me the most
true that brother man 
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Posted: 11/2/2009 8:01 AM
Re: What upsets me the most
Are you serious? Please tell me you are joking. Classless celebrations? You Idiots boo him from beginning to end and expect him to cower down? You should be grateful he didn't, turn to you personally, and show you your I.Q. What was classless? The Green Bay Fans who continued to boo him, even after the game. When they could have applauded him for the win and his performance, and the fact he busted his ass for you for so long. Stupid...
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Posted: 11/2/2009 8:34 AM
RE: What upsets me the most
He's been celebrating exactly the same way all year long in Minnesota. I think the bitter you are tasting is sour grapes...
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Posted: 11/2/2009 8:44 AM
Re: What upsets me the most
Bignutz wrote: And that hypocritical act of showing concern for Jennings along the sideline in the forth quarter? cmon, just go into the HOF as a Vikings! Did Jennings tell you that?
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Posted: 11/2/2009 8:47 AM
Re: What upsets me the most
To the victor goes the spoils. I tip my hat to him because he stepped and delivered. Twice. He won fair and square so he's entitled to celebrate however he sees fit. He's a competitor and I'd expect nothing less from him. He earned it and I didn't find it disrespectful at all. Painful? Definitely. What upsets me most is that we're not the better team. We're almost good enough but we're too undiscplined and not consistent enough to get the job done.
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- VaHoo
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Posted: 11/2/2009 10:15 AM
Re: What upsets me the most
Bignutz wrote:about Favre was his classless victory celebrations along the sidelines. I mean cmon, you've kicked our asses and now you're rubbing our faces in it. I don't mean TT and MM I mean the Packer fans who lived and died with him fo 16 years. I thought it wasn't about revenge? And that hypocritical act of showing concern for Jennings along the sideline in the forth quarter? cmon, just go into the HOF as a Vikings! I know it's my first post here and I'm not trolling BUT.. It was nowhere near classless. The dude is just happy to be playing football. He is absolutely having a blast. He did the same celebration when he played for you guys. He wasn't rubbing it in to the Pack fans who booed him the entire game.
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Posted: 11/2/2009 10:27 AM
Re: What upsets me the most
I think he was being sarcastic. I hope so, anyway
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Posted: 11/2/2009 10:31 AM
Re: What upsets me the most
Classless? yeah bignutz, Favre gets booed walking into the stadium to play a team he helped to resurrect from football hell for 16 years. So thats real classy right? But then when he wins against those booing fans, Favre is supposed to be the guy showing class? Where is the logic? 
Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The coaches who win are the ones who can motivate their players. - Vince Lombardi
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Posted: 11/2/2009 10:33 AM
RE: What upsets me the most
PackerNation wrote: Bignutz - one question for you....ARE YOU SERIOUS?
I swear when the Favre haters can't b**ch about his bad play or int's they find something to cut him down...unbelievable. It's like you people put Brett on the same level as rapists and terrorists. What a worthless post. Yup, agree.. Nothing classless about being excited that you crushed another team. He’s not a Packer, he’s a Viking! He’s doing exactly what he was paid well to do this year, provide HOF skills at the QB position, leadership in the locker, build a SB team player environment. He’s done all that, and he’s done it extremely well. He has that avergae Viking offensive line “Believing”. In fact this Vikings team reminds me so much of the SB 31 Packers team, it’s scary, they are functioning well in all facets of the game. Percy Harvin killed us in ST’s, and their special teams in general had us in bad Field position all them, and had them on a short field all day.
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Posted: 11/2/2009 10:36 AM
RE: What upsets me the most
Favre can celebrate all he wants. It's his town, he was the one that allowed Lambeau to be renovated, he was the one who played here. Whatever. Let him celebrate. He has a grudge with Thompson and he had this game circled on the calendar the minute he signed with Minny. No big deal at all.
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Posted: 11/2/2009 10:37 AM
Re: What upsets me the most
I can't truly believe this is a real post. I sense either sarcasm or bating.
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Posted: 11/2/2009 10:46 AM
Re: What upsets me the most
Vikefan24 wrote: Bignutz wrote:And that hypocritical act of showing concern for Jennings along the sideline in the forth quarter? cmon, just go into the HOF as a Vikings! Did Jennings tell you that? Well first he said that the pass was incomplete. 
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Posted: 11/2/2009 10:47 AM
RE: What upsets me the most
Brett Won - I thought he was pretty classy. he could have flipped off all of those who booed...had I been there I would have been one of them.
I hope he realizes how much his decision hurt Packer fans. I was ready to buy a Jets Jersey to support him, but never against my team, and never for a rival.
I hope in time he aknowledges the impact this has had, even if it is after he officially retires someday.
I can't hate Brett. I hate his decision to play in MN. I would have supported his decision to play almost anywhere else. I hope someday I can embrace him again as a Packer Legend. Right now he is part of the enemy. He got his revenge on TT...someday i hope he realizes how many supporters and fans he hurt in the process.
Last edited 11/2/2009 10:48 AM by pilprin
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Posted: 11/2/2009 11:02 AM
RE: What upsets me the most
pilprin wrote:
He got his revenge on TT.
No he didn't. The only way he gets his revenge is if he wins a Super Bowl, which isn't happening. Everyone knows how he plays in the playoffs and he'll look more like he did against Pittsburgh last week. You know, with his head on a swivel, not knowing where the hell the ball is on the ground or who the hell he's throwing to. Beating Green Bay twice during the regular season doesn't get him any rings or awards, so there's no revenge on anyone. Maybe in his empty skull, but not to anyone else.
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Posted: 11/2/2009 11:07 AM
Re: What upsets me the most
The revenge is whatever works for him, not for you. He wanted to face the Packers and beat them, he did that. There is nothing else. And that is all he wanted to do, so yeah, he got his revenge. And yet... big deal. He didn't win single handedly. But he has still got it to go. And frankly, they could go to teh SB, win it? Always a toss-up. Depends on who gets there and who faces who along the way. What we do know is that the Packers are not going to any Super Bowls anytime soon.
Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The coaches who win are the ones who can motivate their players. - Vince Lombardi
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Posted: 11/2/2009 11:10 AM
RE: What upsets me the most
12TimeWorldChamps wrote:
pilprin wrote:
He got his revenge on TT.
No he didn't. The only way he gets his revenge is if he wins a Super Bowl, which isn't happening. Everyone knows how he plays in the playoffs and he'll look more like he did against Pittsburgh last week. You know, with his head on a swivel, not knowing where the hell the ball is on the ground or who the hell he's throwing to. Beating Green Bay twice during the regular season doesn't get him any rings or awards, so there's no revenge on anyone. Maybe in his empty skull, but not to anyone else. I beg to differ. If we miss the playoffs by 1 or 2 games, given the fact that two of our losses came in large part to Favre's play, it could mean Ted Thompson's job. I'd say regardless of a SB that would be pretty swift and efficient revenge.
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Posted: 11/2/2009 11:12 AM
RE: What upsets me the most
12TimeWorldChamps wrote: No he didn't. The only way he gets his revenge is if he wins a Super Bowl, which isn't happening. Everyone knows how he plays in the playoffs and he'll look more like he did against Pittsburgh last week. You know, with his head on a swivel, not knowing where the hell the ball is on the ground or who the hell he's throwing to. Beating Green Bay twice during the regular season doesn't get him any rings or awards, so there's no revenge on anyone. Maybe in his empty skull, but not to anyone else. Kinda sad that a washed up QB with an "empty skull" can beat up our defense like a rented mule. If he doesn't win the Superbowl this year, so what? He'll get more of a chance to do so then this team will, and I am sure thats just fine with him.
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Posted: 11/2/2009 11:59 AM
RE: What upsets me the most
12TimeWorldChamps wrote: pilprin wrote: He got his revenge on TT.
No he didn't. The only way he gets his revenge is if he wins a Super Bowl, which isn't happening. Everyone knows how he plays in the playoffs and he'll look more like he did against Pittsburgh last week. You know, with his head on a swivel, not knowing where the hell the ball is on the ground or who the hell he's throwing to. Beating Green Bay twice during the regular season doesn't get him any rings or awards, so there's no revenge on anyone. Maybe in his empty skull, but not to anyone else. Having read dozens of your anti-Favre posts over the past 18 months or so, it has become increasingly obvious that you have no grasp of the big picture concerning Favre's premature retirement/leaving, the current state of the Packer's roster as compared with the elite 1/3rd of the league or the reason for the demise of the Green Bay Packers under Ted Thompson. The Favre TT scism was over the level of talent supplied by TT. Favre wanted more playmakers (even offered to pay them out of his contract) but TT had his own adgenda. The result of the unretire fiasco was predetermined by the past problems between the two men. Favre retired, not because he was tired of football but because he was tired of trying to win a SB with mediocre team mates. Not saying that all of the Packers players are just average but enough to make it difficult to win against the best in the league. He came back not to return to the Packers and a future of mediocraty but to get released or traded outright to the Vikings. Rodgers is a fine QB but he inherited the same level of mediocracy that Favre was trying to win with and the results, as anyone who knows a lick about FB are obvious. Favre ended up on a team that has all of the pieces needed to succeed. This win has little to do with revenge but has a lot to do with justifying Favre's demand for talent. The bottom line is that yesterday we saw two franchises headed in oposite directions and TT is responsible for both to a degree. He is absolutely responsible for the level of talent on the GB roster and his unwillingness to fix the problems in GB is directly responsible for the Vikings adding another very important piece to an already talented team. I have been a Packers fan since the 60s and suffered through the 70s and 80s when nobody with much talent was willing to play in GB for the money GB had to spend. This demise is far less forgivable. The Packers have the money to fix this mess but TT does not have the will. He has singlehandedly take the Packers out of the elite 1/3rd of the league and created the ugliest player/franchise situation in league history. Until TT is gone, the Packers will be just good enough to loose well. I applaude Favre for refusing to put his ass on the line every Sunday trying to hide the defficiencies on this roster.
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Posted: 11/2/2009 12:23 PM
Re: What upsets me the most
He played his heart out that game. Everyone thought he'd be nervous going into this game with everything that's on the line but you apparently haven't watched Favre play games on days that made no sense for him to play. He played throuh his wife battling Breast Cancer, he played the day after his father died and had the game of his career ... you really think coming back to play at Lambeau was going to be a distraction for him? He's a professional he knows how to seperate his emotions and get the job done he's proved it on more then 1 occassion and this again is nothing different. The most upsetting part of this whole game was the fact the Packers played like crap the entire 1st half and came out playing with heart the second half ... they proved the second half they can do it. Seriously, if they would of played half of the way they played in the 2nd Half this game could of gone an entire different way. That's the most disheartening fact of this game. Nothing to do with Favre let it go
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Posted: 11/2/2009 12:30 PM
RE: What upsets me the most
MightAsWellPuntOn3rdDown wrote: 12TimeWorldChamps wrote:
pilprin wrote:
He got his revenge on TT.
No he didn't. The only way he gets his revenge is if he wins a Super Bowl, which isn't happening. Everyone knows how he plays in the playoffs and he'll look more like he did against Pittsburgh last week. You know, with his head on a swivel, not knowing where the hell the ball is on the ground or who the hell he's throwing to. Beating Green Bay twice during the regular season doesn't get him any rings or awards, so there's no revenge on anyone. Maybe in his empty skull, but not to anyone else. Having read dozens of your anti-Favre posts over the past 18 months or so, it has become increasingly obvious that you have no grasp of the big picture concerning Favre's premature retirement/leaving, the current state of the Packer's roster as compared with the elite 1/3rd of the league or the reason for the demise of the Green Bay Packers under Ted Thompson. The Favre TT scism was over the level of talent supplied by TT. Favre wanted more playmakers (even offered to pay them out of his contract) but TT had his own adgenda. The result of the unretire fiasco was predetermined by the past problems between the two men. Favre retired, not because he was tired of football but because he was tired of trying to win a SB with mediocre team mates. Not saying that all of the Packers players are just average but enough to make it difficult to win against the best in the league. He came back not to return to the Packers and a future of mediocraty but to get released or traded outright to the Vikings. Rodgers is a fine QB but he inherited the same level of mediocracy that Favre was trying to win with and the results, as anyone who knows a lick about FB are obvious. Favre ended up on a team that has all of the pieces needed to succeed. This win has little to do with revenge but has a lot to do with justifying Favre's demand for talent. The bottom line is that yesterday we saw two franchises headed in oposite directions and TT is responsible for both to a degree. He is absolutely responsible for the level of talent on the GB roster and his unwillingness to fix the problems in GB is directly responsible for the Vikings adding another very important piece to an already talented team. I have been a Packers fan since the 60s and suffered through the 70s and 80s when nobody with much talent was willing to play in GB for the money GB had to spend. This demise is far less forgivable. The Packers have the money to fix this mess but TT does not have the will. He has singlehandedly take the Packers out of the elite 1/3rd of the league and created the ugliest player/franchise situation in league history. Until TT is gone, the Packers will be just good enough to loose well. I applaude Favre for refusing to put his ass on the line every Sunday trying to hide the defficiencies on this roster. Well said. This should be post of the year.
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Posted: 11/2/2009 12:31 PM
RE: What upsets me the most
MightAsWellPuntOn3rdDown wrote: 12TimeWorldChamps wrote: pilprin wrote: He got his revenge on TT.
No he didn't. The only way he gets his revenge is if he wins a Super Bowl, which isn't happening. Everyone knows how he plays in the playoffs and he'll look more like he did against Pittsburgh last week. You know, with his head on a swivel, not knowing where the hell the ball is on the ground or who the hell he's throwing to. Beating Green Bay twice during the regular season doesn't get him any rings or awards, so there's no revenge on anyone. Maybe in his empty skull, but not to anyone else. Having read dozens of your anti-Favre posts over the past 18 months or so, it has become increasingly obvious that you have no grasp of the big picture concerning Favre's premature retirement/leaving, the current state of the Packer's roster as compared with the elite 1/3rd of the league or the reason for the demise of the Green Bay Packers under Ted Thompson. The Favre TT scism was over the level of talent supplied by TT. Favre wanted more playmakers (even offered to pay them out of his contract) but TT had his own adgenda. The result of the unretire fiasco was predetermined by the past problems between the two men. Favre retired, not because he was tired of football but because he was tired of trying to win a SB with mediocre team mates. Not saying that all of the Packers players are just average but enough to make it difficult to win against the best in the league. He came back not to return to the Packers and a future of mediocraty but to get released or traded outright to the Vikings. Rodgers is a fine QB but he inherited the same level of mediocracy that Favre was trying to win with and the results, as anyone who knows a lick about FB are obvious. Favre ended up on a team that has all of the pieces needed to succeed. This win has little to do with revenge but has a lot to do with justifying Favre's demand for talent. The bottom line is that yesterday we saw two franchises headed in oposite directions and TT is responsible for both to a degree. He is absolutely responsible for the level of talent on the GB roster and his unwillingness to fix the problems in GB is directly responsible for the Vikings adding another very important piece to an already talented team. I have been a Packers fan since the 60s and suffered through the 70s and 80s when nobody with much talent was willing to play in GB for the money GB had to spend. This demise is far less forgivable. The Packers have the money to fix this mess but TT does not have the will. He has singlehandedly take the Packers out of the elite 1/3rd of the league and created the ugliest player/franchise situation in league history. Until TT is gone, the Packers will be just good enough to loose well. I applaude Favre for refusing to put his ass on the line every Sunday trying to hide the defficiencies on this roster. Post of the century.
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Posted: 11/2/2009 12:41 PM
Re: What upsets me the most
HYATT wrote:Fans along the sidelines boo the guy who rebuilt their house and gave them EVERYTHING for 16 seasons, then was told he wasn't good enough any longer, but couldn't choose his own exit, and must go to the worst team in the AFC if he wants to still play. Booing people, along the sidelines, displaying respect for Favre by booing him all afternoon, were dissed by his classless display of emotion at winning a game on HIS home sod - the sod his merchandising sales and ticket revenues paid for. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!!!!!! 
Yeah, the logic is impecable, I can't imagine how he could have been so low-rent. 
What upsets you is the fact you chose the wrong side in this dogfight and the Packers didn't win, allowing YOU to rub it in the faces of US who said WE TOLD YOU SO. Yer one hella Packerbacker and loyal acolyte buddy.
GO PACK! I agree with you hyatt, and what I will always wonder is what if thompson wasn't so stubborn and made a move to get randy moss and add some quality guys through FA and build the team with favre still playing for the packers you can see the success favre is having playing with a quality team, coach and this is at the age of 40, imagine what he could be doing for the packers now had thompson designed the team for NOW instead of his in "3 years" thinking thompson and mccarthy have set us back for years, we are not in the same league as the vikings
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Posted: 11/2/2009 12:44 PM
Re: What upsets me the most
Man you guys are on fire, I can't say what you people are saying better than how you are saying it.
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Posted: 11/2/2009 12:47 PM
RE: What upsets me the most
I am so sick of all of this classless bologna. It's football, not an dinner and a show at a fancy restaurant. Fans boo, players celebrate that's what happens. Favre has done that dance after every touchdown for 18 years, if it wasn't a problem the first 430 times why should it be now. The fans payed hundreds of dollars to go to this game, they can boo it they want. Even Jared Allen said the booing was just "being good fans."
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- Poz4me
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Posted: 11/2/2009 1:01 PM
Re: What upsets me the most
Well I thought he dialed his usual celebration back alittle bit. He's a Viking now, period. Favre would've gotten a standing O if he comes to Lambeau playing for one of 29 other teams, but not the Vikings or Bears. He said in his post-game interview that he hoped the Packer fans loved him as much as he loves us. I think we do!
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Posted: 11/2/2009 1:01 PM
Re: What upsets me the most
HYATT wrote: Fans along the sidelines boo the guy who rebuilt their house and gave them EVERYTHING
HYATT - This viewpoint is lacking merit and substance. You're making it sound as if Favre is the only one who ever gave EVERYTHING he had for a long time. Lynn Dickey gave everything he had for a long time here too, much of it with about 200 broken bones in his battered body. What difference does it make? Favre wouldn't have rebuilt anything without Holmgren as his mentor/teacher and guys like LeRoy Butler and Reggie White on the other side of the ball. There is a reason he languished as the Falcons' 3rd-string QB until Ron Wolf saw something that he liked, isn't there???
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Posted: 11/2/2009 1:10 PM
Re: What upsets me the most
12TimeWorldChamps wrote: HYATT wrote: Fans along the sidelines boo the guy who rebuilt their house and gave them EVERYTHING
HYATT - This viewpoint is lacking merit and substance. You're making it sound as if Favre is the only one who ever gave EVERYTHING he had for a long time. Lynn Dickey gave everything he had for a long time here too, much of it with about 200 broken bones in his battered body. What difference does it make? Favre wouldn't have rebuilt anything without Holmgren as his mentor/teacher and guys like LeRoy Butler and Reggie White on the other side of the ball. There is a reason he languished as the Falcons' 3rd-string QB until Ron Wolf saw something that he liked, isn't there??? Please excuse me Mods. Generally I would try to explain the errors in this logic but as the saying goes...."You just can't fix dumb" Lynn Dickey??? You're kidding right? Max McGee once said during a Packers radio broadcast when Dickey was trying to QB about the worst of all Packers teams that (and my quote is not word for word) "the Packers pass protection is not good but maybe Dickey should wait until someone is within two yards before he falls down" I guess the point is that the money generated to do the renovations is due to the success of the team over the past 2 decades which is directly attributable to Favre.
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