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What true freshman will start in the two-deep lineup?

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Posted: 7/2/2014 4:30 PM

What true freshman will start in the two-deep lineup? 


I do not believe any freshman will start at the beginning of the season.

But, by the middle of the season we could have up to five players on the two-deep roster.

Offense

Dorian Baker
Drew Barker
Darryl Long

Defense

Matt Elam
Mike Edwards
Kendall Randolph

Last edited 7/2/2014 4:35 PM by WKMMradio

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Posted: 7/2/2014 4:51 PM

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Not freshmen, but new to the program:  Stamps and Flanigan.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 9:15 PM

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Mike Edwards isn't even on campus yet.  It's highly unlikely he beats out the other guys and makes the 2 deep unless we have several injuries in the secondary.
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Posted: 7/2/2014 10:54 PM

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I have answered your question based on needs and not on my personal opinion of talent. For example, Stanley "Boom" Williams might be the best player in this class but also plays at our deepest position.

I did not include JUCOS because it should be assumed that they will start or play immediately. That is why you bring in JUCOS.

We obviously need help at WR and LB with our incoming class.

Offense
1. D. Baker - Most underrated player in this class. Has size, adequate speed, and great hands.
2. TV Williams - Coaches raved about his speed and quickness in the spring. Can he avoid jams at LOS?
3. G. Johnson - Smooth looking prospect.
4. T. Snodgrass - Raw but very talented. Spring showed his need for polish with routes and separation.
5. D. Long - Great receiving prospect at TE. May be too good to let him develop into adequate blocker.

Defense
1. D. Hendrix - Looked good in spring. Should be better with summer and fall practice.
2. N. Firios - Natural tackling machine. Wildcard at a need position.
3. K. Walker - We need linebackers.
4. M. Edwards - Great talent. Upgrade at safety. AJ Stamps should help save his redshirt.
5. M. Elam - Hopefully will redshirt, but may be better than those in front of him. Can't teach size and quick feet.
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Posted: 7/3/2014 3:34 PM

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Boom Williams is unlikely to be in the two deep at RB, but I think he could get onto the field in a number of ways. If he transitions well to the college game, he too could be a playmaker when he gets the ball in space.
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Posted: 7/3/2014 4:00 PM

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It is hard to predict at this point since you have some returning players who did not participate this spring, you had some freshmen who enrolled early and then you have some talented new guys who are working out this summer. There are also team needs including depth at certain spots. There will be more in the 2-deep later in the season depending on how the season goes. The two deep doesn't matter when you're discussing WR's because a lot will play. Boom is a good example. I honestly don't see how you can keep him off the field and yet it is up to him to be in top condition and learn the playbook, learn to block some, etc. Basic question, can some of these guys help to win games?

Also saw on 24/7 that Flannigan has been cleared to play but NCAA rules won't let him report until early August. Sometimes I feel these "gatekeepers" are totally useless when it comes to dealing with young people trying to get on with their lives.

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Posted: 7/3/2014 11:42 PM

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Wouldn't it be nice if, others than the JUCO's, they could all be red-shirted!!

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Posted: 8/9/2014 9:34 AM

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No RB. Edwards out. West MAY have, had he not needed surgery. Barker and Long unlikely. Johnson and Baker looking good at WR. Elam at DT, but may just be situational. Randolph may grab it at nickel back. Krok?

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Posted: 8/9/2014 11:55 AM

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My take on this is:     JUCOS FS Stamps,  LB Flanagan, likely starters and DT Cory Johnson possible starter at worst probably number two on depth chart.

      True freshmen:     I think most of the WRs and LBs play, CB Randolph plays as nickel safety Tubman is a possibility to play  if he can play LB,   There is a possibility that QB Barker could either start or be the backup, and IMO Elam plays.     There has been talk by the staff that OT Krok might play.   I am sure there will be others before the end of the season.
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Posted: 8/9/2014 1:03 PM

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Stoops loves Tubman, but seems to want to protect an old injury. The fact that UK is 2 deep at DE may be influencing his decision. Did Tubman have a significant shoulder injury?
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Posted: 8/9/2014 1:35 PM

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I really don't know a lot more about it but believe that it required surgery.     I think he has been cleared to play but Stoops doesn't want to take any unnecessary chances.      I doubt he plays at DE where UK is somewhat loaded with talent but he might if he can play LB.
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Posted: 8/9/2014 6:42 PM

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Badinage wrote: Stoops loves Tubman, but seems to want to protect an old injury. The fact that UK is 2 deep at DE may be influencing his decision. Did Tubman have a significant shoulder injury?
Pretty sure Lloyd had off season shoulder surgery.

Guys in the 2014 class that I think will play:

DT Cory Johnson
Special teams Dorian Hendrix
Nickel Kendall Randolph
RB Mikel Horton
RB Boom Williams
S AJ Stamps
WLB Ryan Flannigan
WR Dorian Baker
WR Garrett Johnson
WR Blake Bone
WR Thaddeus Snodgrass

Matt Elam still has a looooong way to go and a short time to get there.
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Posted: 8/10/2014 9:53 AM

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IamRV wrote:
Badinage wrote: Stoops loves Tubman, but seems to want to protect an old injury. The fact that UK is 2 deep at DE may be influencing his decision. Did Tubman have a significant shoulder injury?
Pretty sure Lloyd had off season shoulder surgery.

Guys in the 2014 class that I think will play:

DT Cory Johnson
Special teams Dorian Hendrix
Nickel Kendall Randolph
RB Mikel Horton
RB Boom Williams
S AJ Stamps
WLB Ryan Flannigan
WR Dorian Baker
WR Garrett Johnson
WR Blake Bone
WR Thaddeus Snodgrass

Matt Elam still has a looooong way to go and a short time to get there.
It does sound if there is a rs coming for Lloyd and if that is true don't you think we need to play Ware this year?  I am only thinking about having good DEs next year with Bud and Z both leaving.
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Posted: 8/10/2014 1:43 PM

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TenCatFan wrote:
IamRV wrote:
Badinage wrote: Stoops loves Tubman, but seems to want to protect an old injury. The fact that UK is 2 deep at DE may be influencing his decision. Did Tubman have a significant shoulder injury?
Pretty sure Lloyd had off season shoulder surgery.

Guys in the 2014 class that I think will play:

DT Cory Johnson
Special teams Dorian Hendrix
Nickel Kendall Randolph
RB Mikel Horton
RB Boom Williams
S AJ Stamps
WLB Ryan Flannigan
WR Dorian Baker
WR Garrett Johnson
WR Blake Bone
WR Thaddeus Snodgrass

Matt Elam still has a looooong way to go and a short time to get there.
It does sound if there is a rs coming for Lloyd and if that is true don't you think we need to play Ware this year?  I am only thinking about having good DEs next year with Bud and Z both leaving.
Probably one of Ware and Tubman will play but one must remember two things - the position they both play is Jack and who was working at those spots yesterday.
Bud
Jason Hatcher
Jabari Johnson
Trevaughn Paschal

That's a lot of guys to go through before you get to a true Frosh. BTAIM, at least one will probably play at least on special teams but that could certainly end up a somewhat wasted year.
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Posted: 8/10/2014 1:59 PM

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Hatcher and Huggenin will be solid. Tubman and Ware, and maybe one of the freshmen, will also be fighting for starting spots. Hate to see a RS burned for just a handful of snaps.


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IamRV wrote:
Badinage wrote: Stoops loves Tubman, but seems to want to protect an old injury. The fact that UK is 2 deep at DE may be influencing his decision. Did Tubman have a significant shoulder injury?
Pretty sure Lloyd had off season shoulder surgery.

Guys in the 2014 class that I think will play:

DT Cory Johnson
Special teams Dorian Hendrix
Nickel Kendall Randolph
RB Mikel Horton
RB Boom Williams
S AJ Stamps
WLB Ryan Flannigan
WR Dorian Baker
WR Garrett Johnson
WR Blake Bone
WR Thaddeus Snodgrass

Matt Elam still has a looooong way to go and a short time to get there.
It does sound if there is a rs coming for Lloyd and if that is true don't you think we need to play Ware this year?  I am only thinking about having good DEs next year with Bud and Z both leaving.

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Posted: 8/10/2014 8:27 PM

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Since Hatcher was out it looked like Jabari got a few more reps than Denzil and together they got the majority of 11 on 11 reps there. They did some good but it seemed like Denzil got confused more often than Jabari. I have a new-found appreciation for Bud. I knew he was good but I think the whole country is going to find out how good he really is. He looks like he can be a great player this year.

Baker and Randolph are pretty safe bets for the two-deep but I do think several will play and most will be on offense.

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Posted: 8/11/2014 3:11 PM

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Badinage wrote: Hatcher and Huggenin will be solid. Tubman and Ware, and maybe one of the freshmen, will also be fighting for starting spots. Hate to see a RS burned for just a handful of snaps.


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IamRV wrote:
Badinage wrote: Stoops loves Tubman, but seems to want to protect an old injury. The fact that UK is 2 deep at DE may be influencing his decision. Did Tubman have a significant shoulder injury?
Pretty sure Lloyd had off season shoulder surgery.

Guys in the 2014 class that I think will play:

DT Cory Johnson
Special teams Dorian Hendrix
Nickel Kendall Randolph
RB Mikel Horton
RB Boom Williams
S AJ Stamps
WLB Ryan Flannigan
WR Dorian Baker
WR Garrett Johnson
WR Blake Bone
WR Thaddeus Snodgrass

Matt Elam still has a looooong way to go and a short time to get there.
It does sound if there is a rs coming for Lloyd and if that is true don't you think we need to play Ware this year?  I am only thinking about having good DEs next year with Bud and Z both leaving.

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Yes - they will probably play at least one of Dubose or Ware at least on special teams to get their feet wet.
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Posted: 8/11/2014 3:52 PM

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Dubose is a MUCH bigger dude than I was antcipating.
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Posted: 8/11/2014 8:13 PM

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JDrum wrote: Dubose is a MUCH bigger dude than I was antcipating.
He told me he weighed 280.
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Posted: 8/11/2014 9:47 PM

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He looks to me like he's as big as the 3-bill guys.


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JDrum wrote: Dubose is a MUCH bigger dude than I was antcipating.
He told me he weighed 280.

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Posted: 8/11/2014 10:35 PM

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He did look that big on Sat.

I liked this pic of a freshman: 


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Posted: 8/12/2014 11:49 AM

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Boom's twitter post about that catch.......tongue



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Posted: 8/22/2014 4:29 PM

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No Barker. Bone and Baker are in the mix, perhaps one starts.
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Posted: 8/23/2014 12:41 AM

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If you had to pick one receiver to pass the look test it would be Baker. He is head over heels the best looking receiver out their in terms of frame. You could probably put Timmons up there but the height holds him back a little in the look test.
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