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Marcelyas Jones from Cleveland Glenville

Posted: 12/10/2013 12:20 PM

Marcelyas Jones from Cleveland Glenville 


I heard that he was at your place for a visit.  The report was that the visit was going well.  Being the Ohio State fan that I  am, I hate to see a player that has committed go somewhere else, but this time it doesn't bother me.  I  have heard so much about him. I finally got  a chance to watch him play this past week-end in the State of Ohio Div. 11 championship game.  I do not understand the hype for this player.  He is way too heavy, moves slow.  After seeing him play, I do not understand how he got an offer from Ohio State.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 12:42 PM

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porat wrote: I heard that he was at your place for a visit.  The report was that the visit was going well.  Being the Ohio State fan that I  am, I hate to see a player that has committed go somewhere else, but this time it doesn't bother me.  I  have heard so much about him. I finally got  a chance to watch him play this past week-end in the State of Ohio Div. 11 championship game.  I do not understand the hype for this player.  He is way too heavy, moves slow.  After seeing him play, I do not understand how he got an offer from Ohio State.
You must be right. That's why Nick Saban is in to see him today. He's probably marginally OK for the SEC but would never make it in a big time conference like the Big 10...err, 12,,, 14?
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Posted: 12/10/2013 3:29 PM

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This isn't the first time Marcelys been on UK campus. I do know he tweeted out I have to go where my heart is saying when he got on UK campus during the summer. I'm not saying he decommits from Ohio State, but I will say UK has a legit chance at flipping him.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:50 PM

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Ohio St. will get ripped by Alabama.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:10 PM

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porat wrote: I heard that he was at your place for a visit.  The report was that the visit was going well.  Being the Ohio State fan that I  am, I hate to see a player that has committed go somewhere else, but this time it doesn't bother me.  I  have heard so much about him. I finally got  a chance to watch him play this past week-end in the State of Ohio Div. 11 championship game.  I do not understand the hype for this player.  He is way too heavy, moves slow.  After seeing him play, I do not understand how he got an offer from Ohio State.
This type of comment by OSU fan means they are getting nervous.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 10:00 PM

Re: Marcelyas Jones from Cleveland Glenville 


Hey guys, just wanted to drop by to say that, despite the fact that OSU sent Jones a letter that, once signed, would bind OSU permanently to a scholarship offer, and despite the fact that Jones signed that letter, and despite the fact that OSU has spent a considerable amount of time and money recruiting him for more than a year, and despite the fact that he is having an in-home visit from Nick Saban, and despite the fact that he is an Army All-American, and despite the fact that he has scholarship offers from a veritable who's-who of college football programs...

I heard he was having fun at Kentucky on a visit and, I, anonymous internet message board poster, just wanted to let you guys know that he's no good and I don't understand why he has a binding scholarship offer to OSU.

Thanks,

Ohio State Fan
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Posted: 12/10/2013 10:33 PM

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KYCOL11 wrote: Hey guys, just wanted to drop by to say that, despite the fact that OSU sent Jones a letter that, once signed, would bind OSU permanently to a scholarship offer, and despite the fact that Jones signed that letter, and despite the fact that OSU has spent a considerable amount of time and money recruiting him for more than a year, and despite the fact that he is having an in-home visit from Nick Saban, and despite the fact that he is an Army All-American, and despite the fact that he has scholarship offers from a veritable who's-who of college football programs...

I heard he was having fun at Kentucky on a visit and, I, anonymous internet message board poster, just wanted to let you guys know that he's no good and I don't understand why he has a binding scholarship offer to OSU.

Thanks,

Ohio State Fan
Hate to say that fan isn't very smart because what he signed isn't binding to nothing.
Patrick Loney
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Posted: 12/10/2013 11:35 PM

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PatrickLoney wrote:
KYCOL11 wrote: Hey guys, just wanted to drop by to say that, despite the fact that OSU sent Jones a letter that, once signed, would bind OSU permanently to a scholarship offer, and despite the fact that Jones signed that letter, and despite the fact that OSU has spent a considerable amount of time and money recruiting him for more than a year, and despite the fact that he is having an in-home visit from Nick Saban, and despite the fact that he is an Army All-American, and despite the fact that he has scholarship offers from a veritable who's-who of college football programs...

I heard he was having fun at Kentucky on a visit and, I, anonymous internet message board poster, just wanted to let you guys know that he's no good and I don't understand why he has a binding scholarship offer to OSU.

Thanks,

Ohio State Fan
Hate to say that fan isn't very smart because what he signed isn't binding to nothing.
It's my understanding that the financial aid paperwork has the follow effects:

1. Binds the school to a scholarship offer
2. Allows the coaches unlimited contact
3. Doesn't bind the kid to anything, i.e., some kids are signing multiple financial aid agreements with multiple schools
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Posted: 12/10/2013 11:44 PM

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KYCOL11 wrote:
PatrickLoney wrote:
KYCOL11 wrote: Hey guys, just wanted to drop by to say that, despite the fact that OSU sent Jones a letter that, once signed, would bind OSU permanently to a scholarship offer, and despite the fact that Jones signed that letter, and despite the fact that OSU has spent a considerable amount of time and money recruiting him for more than a year, and despite the fact that he is having an in-home visit from Nick Saban, and despite the fact that he is an Army All-American, and despite the fact that he has scholarship offers from a veritable who's-who of college football programs...

I heard he was having fun at Kentucky on a visit and, I, anonymous internet message board poster, just wanted to let you guys know that he's no good and I don't understand why he has a binding scholarship offer to OSU.

Thanks,

Ohio State Fan
Hate to say that fan isn't very smart because what he signed isn't binding to nothing.
It's my understanding that the financial aid paperwork has the follow effects:

1. Binds the school to a scholarship offer
2. Allows the coaches unlimited contact
3. Doesn't bind the kid to anything, i.e., some kids are signing multiple financial aid agreements with multiple schools
In truth it doesn't bind anything. All it really does is allows coaches unlimited contact. To be flat out honest Marcelys could use the agreement as toliet paper. It's worth that much.
Patrick Loney
AllWildcats.com Football Recruiting Writer
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Posted: 12/10/2013 11:54 PM

Re: Marcelyas Jones from Cleveland Glenville 



PatrickLoney wrote:
KYCOL11 wrote:
PatrickLoney wrote:
KYCOL11 wrote: Hey guys, just wanted to drop by to say that, despite the fact that OSU sent Jones a letter that, once signed, would bind OSU permanently to a scholarship offer, and despite the fact that Jones signed that letter, and despite the fact that OSU has spent a considerable amount of time and money recruiting him for more than a year, and despite the fact that he is having an in-home visit from Nick Saban, and despite the fact that he is an Army All-American, and despite the fact that he has scholarship offers from a veritable who's-who of college football programs...

I heard he was having fun at Kentucky on a visit and, I, anonymous internet message board poster, just wanted to let you guys know that he's no good and I don't understand why he has a binding scholarship offer to OSU.

Thanks,

Ohio State Fan
Hate to say that fan isn't very smart because what he signed isn't binding to nothing.
It's my understanding that the financial aid paperwork has the follow effects:

1. Binds the school to a scholarship offer
2. Allows the coaches unlimited contact
3. Doesn't bind the kid to anything, i.e., some kids are signing multiple financial aid agreements with multiple schools
In truth it doesn't bind anything. All it really does is allows coaches unlimited contact. To be flat out honest Marcelys could use the agreement as toliet paper. It's worth that much.

Maybe, but it's been reported numerous times that the agreement is binding to the university but not the prospect.

Example: 

http://www.ajc.com/news/sports...-georgia/nbz4W/

Pertinant quote: 

"The financial-aid agreement is not the same as a letter of intent, which binds a recruit to a college. The financial-aid agreement commits the university to provide a scholarship, but does not commit the prospect to accept."

More stuff:

http://espn.go.com/college-spo..._medium=twitter

"LSU, after receiving Harris' paperwork, is now obligated to honor his scholarship, unlike the scenario for a traditional recruit who offers a non-binding verbal commitment; however, Harris is not tied to the Tigers. He could enroll elsewhere or sign a binding letter of intent with a different school in February."

http://www.athleticscholarship...as-august-1.htm

"This applies to all sports but will have the biggest impact on football with the largest number of early enrollees and recruiting of committed prospects. Note that midyear enrollees still cannot sign National Letters of Intent (except for junior college transfers). So the impact may be limited if coaches are unwilling to sign a prospect to a financial aid agreement that locks the university in to providing a scholarship but does nothing to commit the prospect to the university."
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Posted: 12/11/2013 1:30 AM

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It's binding only if the commit enrolls to the school itself. It's basically a verbal commitment with the school the recruit is committed to has one advantage of unlimited contact. I can tell you right now it has crossed my mind that Marcelys Jones might also signed one with UK. I haven't confirmed it, but I definitely can say he is seriously considering UK and OSU might not be his leader.
Patrick Loney
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Posted: 12/13/2013 5:27 PM

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Jones is a project...I don't think he even plays OL at Glenville, just DL. It will probably be his RS junior year before he sees significant time on the field at OSU or UK. OSU fans won't be hurt if Urban can pull a better O-Lineman at the 11th hour and Jones picks Kentucky.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 5:48 PM

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KentuckBuck wrote: Jones is a project...I don't think he even plays OL at Glenville, just DL. It will probably be his RS junior year before he sees significant time on the field at OSU or UK. OSU fans won't be hurt if Urban can pull a better O-Lineman at the 11th hour and Jones picks Kentucky.
Yep, they are definitely worried.  They never lose a recruit they really wanted.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 6:13 PM

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OSU literally has to honor this kid's scholarship.  No choice.  They cannot pull the scholarship offer because it is written in stone.  I've done further research on this and the financial aid paperwork is absolutely and unequivocally binding on the institution, while not binding the player at all.

None of that keeps OSU fans from pretending that OSU's staff is hoping he doesn't enroll at OSU.  If he chooses OSU, the tenor will switch immediately to how Urbz got yet another superstar all-american 4* over 'Bama.  If he chooses UK (or Bama) OSU fans will keep pretending it was all part of the plan and that Jones was never wanted anyway.

As for playing OL, a cursory look at HUDL shows that Jones was playing RT on Nov 1, 2013.
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Posted: 12/22/2013 10:18 AM

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Jones is yours if you want him...reports are that he was regressing at the end of the year.

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Posted: 12/22/2013 11:20 AM

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porat wrote: I heard that he was at your place for a visit.  The report was that the visit was going well.  Being the Ohio State fan that I  am, I hate to see a player that has committed go somewhere else, but this time it doesn't bother me.  I  have heard so much about him. I finally got  a chance to watch him play this past week-end in the State of Ohio Div. 11 championship game.  I do not understand the hype for this player.  He is way too heavy, moves slow.  After seeing him play, I do not understand how he got an offer from Ohio State.
Beware of trolls. While there has been some debate on Jones among the fans OSU definitely wants him
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Posted: 12/22/2013 11:52 AM

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They're just working damage control and getting the spin ready for when he decommits.
The sleeping giant is awakening.  

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Posted: 12/22/2013 12:05 PM

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He started out the year starting and playing OL(the first 2 games), because well, he's an OL and future OL in college....so it makes sense. If you notice, after the first two games, there are only a handful or 2 clips of him playing on the OL, including the November 1st game you already mentioned. Why is that? It's common knowledge that he started and played few games his senior year on the OL. He mostly played NT for Cleveland Glenville, that was his main position as a senior. Why though? It's also common knowledge that as the year went on, he continued to get worse. He didnt start or play one snap on the OL in their State Championship game, while also being pushed back and thrown on his back throughout the game playing DT. Why wouldn't he start on the OL for his own team, especially in the biggest games? Curious.
KYCOL11 wrote: OSU literally has to honor this kid's scholarship.  No choice.  They cannot pull the scholarship offer because it is written in stone.  I've done further research on this and the financial aid paperwork is absolutely and unequivocally binding on the institution, while not binding the player at all.

None of that keeps OSU fans from pretending that OSU's staff is hoping he doesn't enroll at OSU.  If he chooses OSU, the tenor will switch immediately to how Urbz got yet another superstar all-american 4* over 'Bama.  If he chooses UK (or Bama) OSU fans will keep pretending it was all part of the plan and that Jones was never wanted anyway.

As for playing OL, a cursory look at HUDL shows that Jones was playing RT on Nov 1, 2013.

"Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard."

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Posted: 12/22/2013 12:54 PM

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So why did urb commit osu to a scholarship?
jbolin999 wrote: He started out the year starting and playing OL(the first 2 games), because well, he's an OL and future OL in college....so it makes sense. If you notice, after the first two games, there are only a handful or 2 clips of him playing on the OL, including the November 1st game you already mentioned. Why is that? It's common knowledge that he started and played few games his senior year on the OL. He mostly played NT for Cleveland Glenville, that was his main position as a senior. Why though? It's also common knowledge that as the year went on, he continued to get worse. He didnt start or play one snap on the OL in their State Championship game, while also being pushed back and thrown on his back throughout the game playing DT. Why wouldn't he start on the OL for his own team, especially in the biggest games? Curious.
KYCOL11 wrote: OSU literally has to honor this kid's scholarship.  No choice.  They cannot pull the scholarship offer because it is written in stone.  I've done further research on this and the financial aid paperwork is absolutely and unequivocally binding on the institution, while not binding the player at all.

None of that keeps OSU fans from pretending that OSU's staff is hoping he doesn't enroll at OSU.  If he chooses OSU, the tenor will switch immediately to how Urbz got yet another superstar all-american 4* over 'Bama.  If he chooses UK (or Bama) OSU fans will keep pretending it was all part of the plan and that Jones was never wanted anyway.

As for playing OL, a cursory look at HUDL shows that Jones was playing RT on Nov 1, 2013.
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Posted: 12/22/2013 1:31 PM

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School............Offer?
Ohio State......Yes
Alabama.........Yes
Florida State...Yes
Georgia Tech..Yes
Indiana............Yes
Louisville.........Yes
Maryland........Yes
Michigan State.Yes
UCLA...............Yes
Vanderbilt........Yes

Yeah, I'm with the op...the kid must be terrible!! :-)

"It's a mere moment in a man's life between an All-Star Game and an Old-Timers Game." - Vin Scully

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Posted: 12/22/2013 2:24 PM

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Yeah, he is not good enough for the Ohio team. Probably needs to come to UK. Oh well!!!

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I heard that he was at your place for a visit.  The report was that the visit was going well.  Being the Ohio State fan that I  am, I hate to see a player that has committed go somewhere else, but this time it doesn't bother me.  I  have heard so much about him. I finally got  a chance to watch him play this past week-end in the State of Ohio Div. 11 championship game.  I do not understand the hype for this player.  He is way too heavy, moves slow.  After seeing him play, I do not understand how he got an offer from Ohio State.

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Posted: 12/22/2013 2:28 PM

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I think the school is committed once they investigate and accept the paperwork.

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KYCOL11 wrote:
PatrickLoney wrote:
KYCOL11 wrote: Hey guys, just wanted to drop by to say that, despite the fact that OSU sent Jones a letter that, once signed, would bind OSU permanently to a scholarship offer, and despite the fact that Jones signed that letter, and despite the fact that OSU has spent a considerable amount of time and money recruiting him for more than a year, and despite the fact that he is having an in-home visit from Nick Saban, and despite the fact that he is an Army All-American, and despite the fact that he has scholarship offers from a veritable who's-who of college football programs...

I heard he was having fun at Kentucky on a visit and, I, anonymous internet message board poster, just wanted to let you guys know that he's no good and I don't understand why he has a binding scholarship offer to OSU.

Thanks,

Ohio State Fan
Hate to say that fan isn't very smart because what he signed isn't binding to nothing.
It's my understanding that the financial aid paperwork has the follow effects:

1. Binds the school to a scholarship offer
2. Allows the coaches unlimited contact
3. Doesn't bind the kid to anything, i.e., some kids are signing multiple financial aid agreements with multiple schools
In truth it doesn't bind anything. All it really does is allows coaches unlimited contact. To be flat out honest Marcelys could use the agreement as toliet paper. It's worth that much.

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Posted: 12/22/2013 2:30 PM

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Not fully true, it also permits the school to publicly discuss the recruit. And, the school is then bound to the commitment if the kid can enroll.

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It's binding only if the commit enrolls to the school itself. It's basically a verbal commitment with the school the recruit is committed to has one advantage of unlimited contact. I can tell you right now it has crossed my mind that Marcelys Jones might also signed one with UK. I haven't confirmed it, but I definitely can say he is seriously considering UK and OSU might not be his leader.

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Posted: 12/22/2013 2:32 PM

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This is precious. Never have I witnessed such a silly fane base.

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Jones is yours if you want him...reports are that he was regressing at the end of the year.

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Posted: 12/23/2013 9:26 AM

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CATS are in need of both O&D lineman and I sure trust our new staff in their recruiting!
Got a question for you Kentucky Buck. Do you know if the head coach or any member of the staff at Ohio State offered  A.J. Stamps a scholarship? I was TOLD by a UofL Card fan yesterday that UK was his best offer.
KentuckBuck wrote: Jones is a project...I don't think he even plays OL at Glenville, just DL. It will probably be his RS junior year before he sees significant time on the field at OSU or UK. OSU fans won't be hurt if Urban can pull a better O-Lineman at the 11th hour and Jones picks Kentucky.
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Posted: 12/23/2013 1:54 PM

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Stamps did not have a commitable offer from OSU. He just tagged along on a visit with a teammate.
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Posted: 12/23/2013 2:29 PM

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One would think Meyer had better things to do with his time than call on recruits he wasn't really interested in.
The sleeping giant is awakening.  

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Posted: 12/23/2013 2:51 PM

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If Meyer did actually call Stamps, which there is no evidence of, I tend to believe it was only a courtesy. Like no, sorry Stamps, we are still waiting on other prospects and the status of your offer has not changed, you can not commit. I know you want to sign with someone now, AJ, and it will not be with Ohio State, so go ahead and sign with Kentucky.
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Posted: 12/23/2013 3:04 PM

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I came to this board because I was curious about Marcelys Jones. I wanted to know where Kentucky thought they stood with them or just get a pulse on the situation in general. It has been no secret that Marcelys has been looking around and taking other visits. When Lonnie Johnson decommit there was talk that there would possibly be more attrition from this class and immediate speculation turned to Jones.

Jones has a lot of potential, and Ohio State has signed a mid year agreement with him. But there have been a lot of flags, and it is not out of the question that he has been encouraged to look around (purely speculation on my part). BUT, once he was offered, regardless of what happened Ohio State was going to honor that offer. You do NOT burn a pipeline school, especially one like Cleveland Glenville that has produced countless Buckeyes, by pulling an offer from one of their kids.

I follow recruiting closely, but don't really getting invested in many kids. Jones may be great, who knows, only in the next 3-4 years will we find out. But being a fan of an Urban Meyer coached team, it doesn't really matter what the name is or where they come from. They are going to be good. So while I like to familiarize myself with the incoming class, I don't really care who they are. Good luck to Jones wherever he goes.
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Posted: 12/23/2013 3:05 PM

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Buckin Luck does the name Zach Smith ring a bell to you.
BuckinLuck wrote: I came to this board because I was curious about Marcelys Jones. I wanted to know where Kentucky thought they stood with them or just get a pulse on the situation in general. It has been no secret that Marcelys has been looking around and taking other visits. When Lonnie Johnson decommit there was talk that there would possibly be more attrition from this class and immediate speculation turned to Jones.

Jones has a lot of potential, and Ohio State has signed a mid year agreement with him. But there have been a lot of flags, and it is not out of the question that he has been encouraged to look around (purely speculation on my part). BUT, once he was offered, regardless of what happened Ohio State was going to honor that offer. You do NOT burn a pipeline school, especially one like Cleveland Glenville that has produced countless Buckeyes, by pulling an offer from one of their kids.

I follow recruiting closely, but don't really getting invested in many kids. Jones may be great, who knows, only in the next 3-4 years will we find out. But being a fan of an Urban Meyer coached team, it doesn't really matter what the name is or where they come from. They are going to be good. So while I like to familiarize myself with the incoming class, I don't really care who they are. Good luck to Jones wherever he goes.
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