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Posted: 11/8/2012 7:38 PM

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How can you blast Bobby Petrino on the radio and then glorify Ben Rothisberger from your beloved Steelers? They both did almost the same thing. Name me an NCAA violation that Petrino committed. He is a hell of a Football Coach and would turn UK around next season.
Let's be consistent with your thoughts and don't let your fandom get in the way. I alwys respected your opinions but you aree way off on this one.
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Posted: 11/8/2012 9:10 PM

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A little different, RAPElessberger sexually assaulted a co-ed that was under twenty-one in the mens room after supplying her with alcohol!
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Posted: 11/8/2012 9:29 PM

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Gabecat wrote: How can you blast Bobby Petrino on the radio and then glorify Ben Rothisberger from your beloved Steelers? They both did almost the same thing. Name me an NCAA violation that Petrino committed. He is a hell of a Football Coach and would turn UK around next season.
Let's be consistent with your thoughts and don't let your fandom get in the way. I alwys respected your opinions but you aree way off on this one.

When have you ever heard me defend Ben Rothliesberger? You haven't because it's never happened. I was fed up with the guy and his antics. He's the QB of the NFL team I follow, nothing more, nothing less. I don't have to like or condone his behavior in the past. It is what it is. 

You can be successful at UK without this guy, Gabe. You don't have to sell out your core beliefs to get it done. 

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Posted: 11/8/2012 9:43 PM

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It is not going to happen because Petrino drew out Auburn with his father's statement so Barnhart will get a backlash and we will never know if Petrino would succeed at UK. All I can say is the new coach will unfairly be judged by what if standards that Petrino had bought to UK. If Mitch hires a guy with a McIntyre's 13-23 record he should have kept Joker because the fan base will revolt.
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Posted: 11/8/2012 9:48 PM

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I don't know who Mcintyre is and I don't want to know.  UK doesn't need any more losers for coaches.  You thought JDrum was bad on the air?  You don't want me calling in and that is exactly what I will do if UK makes a piss poor hire.

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Posted: 11/8/2012 9:57 PM

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Yeah, well i guess he is entitled to his own views but i can guarantee you its not the majority view of the entire fanbase. Sounds like someone has an agenda :)
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Posted: 11/8/2012 10:00 PM

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Gabecat wrote: It is not going to happen because Petrino drew out Auburn with his father's statement so Barnhart will get a backlash and we will never know if Petrino would succeed at UK. All I can say is the new coach will unfairly be judged by what if standards that Petrino had bought to UK. If Mitch hires a guy with a McIntyre's 13-23 record he should have kept Joker because the fan base will revolt.
Hearing that it may not be likely at Auburn, either. 

I understand your frustrations -- really do -- and I agree that Mitch has to hit a home run here. Just doesn't have to be Barry Bonds or Mark McGwire. wink
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Posted: 11/8/2012 10:07 PM

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bigtimecatsfan wrote: Yeah, well i guess he is entitled to his own views but i can guarantee you its not the majority view of the entire fanbase. Sounds like someone has an agenda :)
That's fine. I'll own it. My agenda is for my alma mater not to sell out to a guy who has left behind a horrible relationship with every organization he's ever been a part of and will readily do it again to UK if given the opportunity. 

My opinion, and I know it's shared by many UK fans. Yours may be different, and I'll respect that. Fair enough?
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Posted: 11/8/2012 10:08 PM

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Bigbluesea90 wrote: I don't know who Mcintyre is and I don't want to know.  UK doesn't need any more losers for coaches.  You thought JDrum was bad on the air?  You don't want me calling in and that is exactly what I will do if UK makes a piss poor hire.
San Jose State coach. Having a nice year, but hard for me to believe he'd be a serious candidate at this stage.
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Posted: 11/8/2012 11:22 PM

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Regardless of what he has or hasn't done, one thing remains. Bobby Petrino is by FAR the best available option to take over this job. If you are worried about him leaving, you do what Arkansas did and sign him to a lengthy contract with an enormous buyout that nobody would be willing to pay. Then you sit back and enjoy the best 10 years of Kentucky football you've ever seen.

I'm simply not falling for the argument that there are coaches out who could do just as good as Petrino. That is BS! The guy has a higher win percentage than Les Miles, Steve Spurrier and Nick Saban. None of those guys are coming here. Jon Gruden isn't coming here. And everyone else on the list that we actually have a shot at is either a washed up retread or an unproven nobody in comparison to Petrino.

For once in my life, I'd like to actually see UK consistently field football teams that the rest of the SEC takes seriously. Bobby Petrino is the only guy on the long list of coaches I've seen thrown around on here that has a high likelihood of being able to achieve that. The rest of the candidates stand a moderate to high risk of failure here.

The answer is glaringly simple. Either we want a REAL football coach that will make us relevant. Or otherwise we want a Sunday school teacher type that meets Mitch's lofty "moral" standards and will keep his mouth shut and do as he's told by the UKAA like a good little puppet. We've been down the latter road many times. I'm willing to give the former a shot.

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Posted: 11/8/2012 11:45 PM

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I don't think it's accurate to say Mitch is looking for a "Sunday school teacher." Pursued Bill Parcells. Hired Rich Brooks. Hired Joker Phillips. None of them are ever being confused for Ned Flanders. But they're men with a backbone and strong character.

This idea of there's only one, "The Chosen One," able to be successful at Kentucky is disturbing. Did we not watch and learn from what happens when we turn coaches into deities?

C'mon man. There's all kinds of quality coaches out there. Will it be easy? No. But it never will be at Kentucky.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 12:22 AM

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CtownGMan wrote: A little different, RAPElessberger sexually assaulted a co-ed that was under twenty-one in the mens room after supplying her with alcohol!
As always, the female has no fault in any of it, right?

Now I know why people hate UK.

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Posted: 11/9/2012 12:27 AM

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I find it interesting how people pretend Petrino's "character" is so outrageous.

College athletics is full of slime- and SEC football  is using it as a slip and slide. As far as we know, Petrino doesn't cheat the rules of the game.

Rock stars do far worse things in their personal lives but they get away with it because they are extremely talented.

Petrino is extremely talented at coaching football. No one is going to hold it against Kentucky - at all- if he starts winning at UK... and if they do it is out of jealousy.

The thing that bothers me about him is he may very well pull a Kiffin and bail at the first chance he gets .... but Kentucky will likely never get a chance at a coach of Petrino's caliber for decades so do the math.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 12:31 AM

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cyeast97 wrote: I find it interesting how people pretend Petrino's "character" is so outrageous.

College athletics is full of slime- and SEC football  is using it as a slip and slide. As far as we know, Petrino doesn't cheat the rules of the game.

Rock stars do far worse things in their personal lives but they get away with it because they are extremely talented.

Petrino is extremely talented at coaching football. No one is going to hold it against Kentucky - at all- if he starts winning at UK... and if they do it is out of jealousy.

The thing that bothers me about him is he may very well pull a Kiffin and bail at the first chance he gets .... but Kentucky will likely never get a chance at a coach of Petrino's caliber for decades so do the math.
Really?  If you can't hold his feet to the coal and make it very expensive to leave,  why hire him?  He's not going 9-3 his first year and if he does it in his second year and leaves are we that much better off?  I have to respectfully disagree.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 12:41 AM

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JDrum wrote:

C'mon man. There's all kinds of quality coaches out there. Will it be easy? No. But it never will be at Kentucky.
Alright, name one. Give me the name of just one coach that we actually have a realistic shot at who can come in here with an equal likelihood of major success as Petrino. And by major success I don't mean having a ceiling of 7-5 every now and then and going to some toilet bowl. I'm talking about someone capable of winning 9 or 10 games on a fairly consistent basis.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 1:00 AM

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JDrum wrote:C'mon man. There's all kinds of quality coaches out there. Will it be easy? No. But it never will be at Kentucky.

That's what worries me, that we will hire one of those "quality coaches," you know, like the ones we've hired so far. All that need be said is, Kentucky Basketball. Billy Gillespie, or John Calipari?

Now I know why people hate UK.

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Posted: 11/9/2012 1:18 AM

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I see were you are coming from and respect your opinion, but must say that i along with many others feel that uk is in a situation were we dont have much to lose
and petrino is the best coach available that we have the best chance to get, he is a proven winner. With the shape our program is in, it would be folly and just plain stubborn pride fullness not to at least talk to the guy and give him a chance. If he leaves after a couple of years than so be it. If you want to call it selling out then fine, but the fact that we are the laughing stock of the ncaa tells me we have already sold out to mediocrity and non stop excuses why we cant compete year after year, i would rather take my chances "selling out" on a proven winner then simply continuing to give in. What do we have to lose? Its not like the guy has ever had ncaa issues.

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Posted: 11/9/2012 1:23 AM

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bigtimecatsfan wrote: I see were you are coming from and respect your opinion, but must say that i along with many others feel that uk is in a situation were we dont have much to lose
and petrino is the best coach available that we have the best chance to get, he is a proven winner. With the shape our program is in, it would be folly and just plain stubborn pride fullness not to at least talk to the guy and give him a chance. If he leaves after a couple of years than so be it. If you want to call it selling out then fine, but the fact that we are the laughing stock of the ncaa tells me we have already sold out to mediocrity and non stop excuses why we cant compete year after year, i would rather take my chances "selling out" on a proven winner then simply continuing to give in. What do we have to lose? Its not like the guy has ever had ncaa issues.
I for one agree with you, except for the leaving after a couple of years part. But as long as that can be taken care of, then I say go for it.

Now I know why people hate UK.

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Posted: 11/9/2012 1:59 AM

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UKfan215 wrote:
JDrum wrote:

C'mon man. There's all kinds of quality coaches out there. Will it be easy? No. But it never will be at Kentucky.
Alright, name one. Give me the name of just one coach that we actually have a realistic shot at who can come in here with an equal likelihood of major success as Petrino. And by major success I don't mean having a ceiling of 7-5 every now and then and going to some toilet bowl. I'm talking about someone capable of winning 9 or 10 games on a fairly consistent basis.
I don't think that man exists, if that's your definition of success at UK.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 6:51 AM

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Wow. This sets the bar low for character in coaching, or in society. I believe in second chances, and I would interview Bobby, but he would have to prove he has turned a new leaf or he would not be the face of my program. Or the neck brace.

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I find it interesting how people pretend Petrino's "character" is so outrageous.

College athletics is full of slime- and SEC football  is using it as a slip and slide. As far as we know, Petrino doesn't cheat the rules of the game.

Rock stars do far worse things in their personal lives but they get away with it because they are extremely talented.

Petrino is extremely talented at coaching football. No one is going to hold it against Kentucky - at all- if he starts winning at UK... and if they do it is out of jealousy.

The thing that bothers me about him is he may very well pull a Kiffin and bail at the first chance he gets .... but Kentucky will likely never get a chance at a coach of Petrino's caliber for decades so do the math.

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Posted: 11/9/2012 6:54 AM

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I think this argument is moot for a number of reasons, chief among them I do not believe Bobby would take the job. I understand the "make him turn it down mentality," but I also understand that it hurts the program the more "nos" are reported.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 7:22 AM

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Badinage wrote:  he would not be the face of my program. Or the neck brace.


" The neck brace", that may well be the best post you have ever made here
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Posted: 11/9/2012 7:32 AM

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fastkat wrote:
Badinage wrote:  he would not be the face of my program. Or the neck brace.


" The neck brace", that may well be the best post you have ever made here
And that's sad.

Now I know why people hate UK.

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Posted: 11/9/2012 9:10 AM

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How is my statement different from yours? I'm saying hire him if you can get an acceptable deal done... so are you. 
Badinage wrote: Wow. This sets the bar low for character in coaching, or in society. I believe in second chances, and I would interview Bobby, but he would have to prove he has turned a new leaf or he would not be the face of my program. Or the neck brace.

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I find it interesting how people pretend Petrino's "character" is so outrageous.

College athletics is full of slime- and SEC football  is using it as a slip and slide. As far as we know, Petrino doesn't cheat the rules of the game.

Rock stars do far worse things in their personal lives but they get away with it because they are extremely talented.

Petrino is extremely talented at coaching football. No one is going to hold it against Kentucky - at all- if he starts winning at UK... and if they do it is out of jealousy.

The thing that bothers me about him is he may very well pull a Kiffin and bail at the first chance he gets .... but Kentucky will likely never get a chance at a coach of Petrino's caliber for decades so do the math.

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CtownGMan wrote: A little different, RAPElessberger sexually assaulted a co-ed that was under twenty-one in the mens room after supplying her with alcohol!
As always, the female has no fault in any of it, right?

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Wow... did I REALLY just read that?
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Posted: 11/9/2012 10:16 AM

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DKingsland967 wrote:
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CtownGMan wrote: A little different, RAPElessberger sexually assaulted a co-ed that was under twenty-one in the mens room after supplying her with alcohol!
As always, the female has no fault in any of it, right?

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Wow... did I REALLY just read that?
Lol - you did.  Unreal.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 12:02 PM

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You guys are suckers. You really have no clue, do you?

Now I know why people hate UK.

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Posted: 11/9/2012 12:35 PM

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JDrum wrote:
Gabecat wrote: How can you blast Bobby Petrino on the radio and then glorify Ben Rothisberger from your beloved Steelers? They both did almost the same thing. Name me an NCAA violation that Petrino committed. He is a hell of a Football Coach and would turn UK around next season.
Let's be consistent with your thoughts and don't let your fandom get in the way. I alwys respected your opinions but you aree way off on this one.

When have you ever heard me defend Ben Rothliesberger? You haven't because it's never happened. I was fed up with the guy and his antics. He's the QB of the NFL team I follow, nothing more, nothing less. I don't have to like or condone his behavior in the past. It is what it is. 

You can be successful at UK without this guy, Gabe. You don't have to sell out your core beliefs to get it done. 

Its simply idiotic to say that Rothliesberger and Petrino did the same thing. Rothliesberger was never charged or convicted.

Petrino on the other hand, violated a University policy and lied about it to his superiors which makes him toxic to probably 90% of the University presidents in the US. Not only that, but his rep sucked BEFORE that happened.

UK doesn't need this slime ball.
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Posted: 11/9/2012 12:51 PM

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Mitch should at least do some investigative research on how things have been since the ARK debacle and talk with him. I realize he has been a slime ball in his past, but is it impossible to change?? Maybe so, but its worth a look. If winning is what we want most, there is only one coach UK has a shot at that will more than likely bring 6-9 wins each year.
I BLEED BLUE

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Posted: 11/9/2012 2:36 PM

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Kingrexchapman3 wrote: Mitch should at least do some investigative research on how things have been since the ARK debacle and talk with him. I realize he has been a slime ball in his past, but is it impossible to change?? Maybe so, but its worth a look. If winning is what we want most, there is only one coach UK has a shot at that will more than likely bring 6-9 wins each year.
How things have been since the Arkansas debacle? Nothing has happened since the Arkansas debacle, because he hasn't had a job. Other than that lame interview he did with ESPN a few months back.

Here's the deal with Petrino. I get he doesn't have any NCAA violations on his record. Even coaches who do have bounced back from that. Even the affair with a 20 something year old is not too uncommon in a culture full of huge egos.

What is the issue here is the position he put the UofA in. They were at great risk when it was revealed that he was having an affair with someone he hired and who was a subordinate. She could have potentially taken that institution to the cleaners.

I doubt there are too many University Presidents who are willing to sweep that under the rug so quickly.
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